Wandering Thru The Tides

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

I got to thinking about the records of the sea level height taken at tidal stations all over the planet. The main problem with these tide stations is that they measure the height of the sea surface versus the height of some object attached to the land … but the land isn’t sitting still. In most places around the planet the land surface is actually rising or falling, and in some places, it’s doing so at a surprising rate, millimeters per year.

The places that are the most affected, unfortunately, are the places where we have some of the longest tidal records, the northern extra-tropics and northern sub-polar regions. In those sub-polar regions, during the most recent ice age, there were trillions of tonnes of ice on the land. This squashed the land underneath the ice down towards the center of the earth … and as result of that, just like when you squeeze a balloon it bulges out elsewhere, the extra-tropical areas further from the North Pole bulged upwards in response to the northern areas being pushed down.

Now, of course, other than scattered glaciers all of that ice is gone. With that weight removed the land is now experiencing the reverse effect. This is called “post-glacial rebound”, or PGR. The effect of the PGR is the reverse of that of the ice—northern areas are rising and mid-latitude areas are sinking. So when we look at long-term records from northern Europe, for example, the land is actually rising faster than the sea level … and as a result, the tide gauges there are recording a sea level fall rather than a sea level rise.

The issue comes up when we want to know how fast the sea level is rising, both now and in the past. Unfortunately, most tide gauges around the planet don’t have co-located GPS units capable of measuring the altitude to the nearest millimeter…

Me, I’m not that interested in exactly how fast the sea level is rising. I’m much more interested in whether that rate of sea level rise is speeding up. For three decades now climate alarmists have been predicting an imminent acceleration in the rate of sea level rise that is supposed to drown whole cities by 2100, the usual Chicken Little scenario. However, I’ve not seen any convincing evidence for that claimed acceleration.

My thought about how to investigate the purported acceleration was simple. I’d get every one of the tide records, the most recent I could find. These are kept at the Permanent Service for the Mean Sea Level, or PSMSL. They are obtainable individually here or in bulk here. As the curators recommend, I used the RLR version.

Then I’d detrend them all. That would remove any post-glacial rebound. The PGR, whether slow or fast, doesn’t change much in a couple centuries. So detrending would set the PGR to zero. This would allow me to look at the average shorter term multidecadal variations in sea level. I would average the records, and see what kind of acceleration I might find in the results.

I thought about this while reading GLOBAL SEA RISE: A REDETERMINATION, by Bruce C. Douglas, available here. In it, he averages a subset of the 1509 stations after adjusting them for post-glacial rebound (PGR). However, he’s picked a tiny subset, only twenty-four stations … out of the more than 1500 tide stations available worldwide. Hmm … seemed like a very small sample.

So I thought I’d take a look at some other subsets of the tide station data. I decided to filter based on a couple of criteria. One was that I wanted to have long records. So I started with a hundred years minimum. No particular reason, it just seemed like a good place to start.

The other criterion was that I wanted them to be mostly complete, with little missing data. I started with the requirement that they be ninety percent complete. I expected that I’d find only five or ten such stations around the globe, but to my surprise, I found that there are no less than 61 tide station records that meet those criteria.

Following the usual method, I took the “first differences” of these individual sea level records. This is the change in the data over time. Since we have monthly data, the “first differences” in this instance are the month-to-month changes in the sea level for each tide station.

Then I averaged those first differences, month by month. Finally, the cumulative sum of that average of the first differences reconstructs (in theory) the average change in sea level height.

Figure 1 shows the result of that procedure. Remember that this is detrended data. I’m not looking at the trend. I’m looking at the decadal and multidecadal variations within the overall record, to see where the trend changes.

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Figure 1. Averaged sea level. The average was taken as the cumulative sum of the month-by-month average of the individual station first differences. No standardization of standard deviation was performed. The yellow line is a six-year centered Gaussian smooth. I put the ocean in the background because … well, because I got bored with plain white, plus … it’s the ocean …

OK, nothing much surprising there. Yes, I know I haven’t made any effort to do a gridded or other geospatial average … but I find that for first-cut investigations the differences aren’t worth the programming time. That can come later to refine the results. First I want to take a broad view and come to an overall understanding of the oddities and the outliers and the overall style and substance of the dataset.

Now, in Figure 1, sixty-one records is not a whole lot. So my next thought was to reduce the completeness threshold a bit. I decided to look at all the hundred-year-long records which contain at least eighty percent data, instead of ninety percent. That increased the station count from sixty-one to seventy-one. And the result was what I love the most about science … a big surprise.

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Figure 2. As in Figure 1, except only requiring 80% data instead of 90% data.

Dang-a-lang, sez I, say wut?!? … and I went off to find the fault in my computer program that extracts the data and draws the plots.

However, when I couldn’t find anything wrong with my program, I realized that the answer had to be somewhere in the ten additional stations that were added in between Figure 1 and Figure 2. Here are those ten stations:

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Figure 3. The ten stations which were added to the subset between Figure 1 and Figure 2.

You can see the problem, I’m sure. What is going on with the tide record from the Manila South Harbor? So I pulled Manila South Harbor out of the mix … which led to big surprise number two.

Pulling out the Manila record made no particular change. The result still had the big drop seen in Figure 2.

After much faffing about, I finally determined that the miscreant was actually Trois-Rivieres, which is certainly not obviously different from its compatriots. It’s second from the bottom left in Figure 3 above, looks like the rest … except in size. I’d made the mistake of not paying attention to the different scales. Here’re the same ten stations, but this time all to the same scale.

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Figure 4. As in Figure 3, but with all stations shown at the same scale.

In this view the problem is evident. We’re doing a “first differences” analysis. But that weights the data in some sense proportional to the stations’ standard deviation, how much it swings from month to month.

Setting that question aside, however, the surprising part to me was the large effect of one single record among 71 others. One bad actor in the lot totally changed the whole average … and it brings up a question for which there is no “right” answer.

How do we deal, not just with this instance of Trois-Rivieres, but with the more general underlying problem that the month-to-month variations in sea level are of very different sizes at different tidal stations around the globe?

Do we scale them all to the same standard deviation, to give them all equal weight? Or as in this case, is it valid to just heave Trois-Rivieres overboard and continue the cruise? Hang on, let me get a histogram of the standard deviations so we have some information. The standard deviation is a measure of how wide the swings in the data are … I’m writing this up as I work my way through the issues, so you can see how I go about understanding the dataset. Here’s the histogram of the standard deviations:

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Figure 5. Histogram of the standard deviations of 1,509 tide stations.

OK, that’s a problem for this kind of analysis. This shows a bunch of stations with standard deviations over say 150 mm … and as we saw above, to my surprise, just one wide-swinging station can poison seventy other stations. So any analysis will be dominated by the widest-swinging datasets. Oooogh. No bueno.

As I said above, there’s no “right” answer to this question. About all that I can see to do is to set them all to the median standard deviation, which is about ninety mm. This gives them all equal weight and also makes them comparable to the raw data. Figure 6 shows the same 71 hundred year plus stations as in Figure 2, but this time after they’ve been set to the same standard deviation. Note that Trois-Rivieres is no longer dominating the results.

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Figure 6. Averaged sea level. The average was taken as the cumulative sum of the month-by-month average of the individual station first differences. All first difference station data was set to a standard deviation of 88 mm before averaging the first differences. 

I think that’s about the best I can do. I say that because I’m interested in decadal and multi-decadal changes … and there’s no reason to assume that tide stations with large month-to-month swings are more representative of those multidecadal changes than any other stations. With no theoretical reason to prefer one group of stations over another, I can only give them all the same weight.

(Upon reflection while writing up my investigations, I just now realized we might also find interesting results by using a yearly average of the data. At least this would get rid of the month-to-month variations … but at the cost of throwing away some data. So many possible analyses, so little time … I return to the current analysis).

Now, I mentioned that I was led to look at this by the Douglas re-examination of sea level changes. So I thought I’d take a look at the twenty-four stations he used. Here’s that result. All the stations have similar standard deviations, so I’ve not made any adjustments. Unlike my own analysis these are not detrended. In addition, the trends have been adjusted for post-glacial rebound using the data from the Douglas paper.

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Figure 7. Stations from Douglas GLOBAL SEA RISE paper. These stations have been adjusted for PGR using the data in the cited paper. Note that these have not been detrended.

Hmmm … I’m not seeing any reason to prefer that Douglas subset to any of the others. It is different from any of the others that we’ve seen in that there is a clear acceleration in the rate of rise around 1970. This has not been visible in any of the other datasets. However, my main objection is the tiny size of the sample, only 24 stations.

According to the cited Douglas paper, among other requirements, to be usable the individual tide station records should “be at least 60 years in length” and be at least “80% complete”. Here’s the subset of the 1,509 records, the 235 stations  that fit those two criteria.

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Figure 8. Averaged of detrended sea levels, sixty year + datasets with eighty percent data. All datasets have been standardized to a standard deviation of 88 mm. This is the median standard deviation of the full 1,509-station dataset.

That’s not much different from the hundred-year-plus dataset shown in Figure 6. Let’s see what happens when we reduce Douglas’s required length of sixty years down to say forty years …

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Figure 9. Averaged sea level, forty year + datasets with eighty percent data. All datasets have been standardized to a standard deviation of 88 mm.

As you can see, once there’s very little difference from adding the additional shorter-length station records. Figure 6 shows hundred-year-plus records, only 71 stations. It differs only in the smallest details from Figure 9, which shows forty year plus records and averages 500 stations.

However, there is a final perplexitude. So far, we’ve been looking at records with 80% of the data … but what if we make the requirement stricter? How about if we require that ninety percent of the data be present? It turns out that, just as with the eighty percent criterion, the results at ninety percent look quite similar at records lengths from forty to a hundred years … but the oddity is that they do not look like the eighty percent records.

Here are all the sixty year plus records with ninety percent data, 193 stations:

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Figure 10. Averaged sea level, sixty year + datasets with ninety percent data. All datasets have been standardized to a standard deviation of 88 mm.

As you can see, Figure 10 is similar to the eighty percent data shown in Figure 9 in that it has the high point at the start. It’s also similar in the range from about 1875 to about 1920.

From 1920 to the present, however, the eighty percent complete records go up in a pretty straight line … and the ninety percent complete records go down, again linearly. Who knew?

So, after that voyage through the 1,509 records, what can we say? Well, we can’t say anything about the trend, because we’ve been using detrended records. Heck, we can’t even say whether there was a change around 1920, because the records with eighty percent data say yes, the rate of rise increased around 1920 … but the ninety percent records say no, there was no change in the rate around 1920.

However, something that we can say is that the one and only subset I’ve found that shows any recent 20th-century acceleration is the extremely small 24-station subset used by Douglas. It claims that there was an acceleration in the rate around 1970 or so.

All the other subsets we’ve looked at agree, eighty and ninety percent data alike, at all lengths from forty years plus to a hundred years plus. They all say that there has been a uniform gradual sea level change since around 1920, a change which has varied little over that time. In detrended terms, some subsets say it went up since 1920, some say it went down since then.

But not one of them show any recent acceleration in the rate of sea level rise.

In other words, despite thirty years of alarmists telling us that the seas are going to start rising at some accelerating rate any day now … there is no sign of that predicted acceleration in any of these subsets of the detrended tide station records. Of course, this doesn’t prove anything, you can’t prove a negative. However, it joins all the other evidence out there showing no recent acceleration in sea level rise.

My final thought out of all of this is that the sea level data from the tide gauges around the world is very sensitive to the exact selection of the subset of stations used in any analysis. There are differences even what I would have thought would be a trivial change in cr, say between eighty and ninety percent data for all stations over sixty years in length, which only went from 193 stations at ninety percent data to 235 stations at eighty percent data. And despite the fact that both groups contain datasets with what we would call good coverage, and despite the two datasets having over 80% of the stations in common … despite all of that, changing the requirement from eighty percent complete to ninety percent changes the overall change in trend since 1920 from rising to falling …

So I’d say the takeaway message is, be cautious in claims regarding the sea level rise speeding up. I’ve looked a lot of places for acceleration without finding any sign of such an increase in the rate of sea level rise, and this latest peregrination through the tidal data has only strengthened my skepticism about any claims made about the global sea level. It’s just too dependent on the methods used and the choices made to give me any sense of solidity.


 

Here, I’m very happy to be back from my Solomon Islands adventure. Before I left I had just finished building a large patio here by our hillside home. I rented a backhoe, bought a few pallets of blocks and bricks, and started digging and filling. Then when the rough backhoe work was done … shoveling. And more shoveling. What in a less politically correct time we called “Playing the Swedish banjo”. Here’s a shot halfway through the process with the downhill retaining wall in but not the uphill wall, featuring my weapons of mass construction, a McCloud and a couple shovels, plus my hand grader (a board attached to a rake) at the far right …

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Once the level spot was made I had to decide how to treat the flat surface. I decided to brick it in. My artistic vision was to make what would look like a river of bricks running out from under our house to a pool, of brick of course, and then flowing out from that brick pool over the rapids at the far end of the patio where the retaining wall stops.

And here’s how it looked shortly before I left, with my gorgeous ex-fiancee tending her beloved plants …

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And finally, here it is this lovely warm December morning upon my return, with verdant, insistent nature starting to push up through the spaces just like I’d hoped … I plan to let it grow and periodically mow it short.

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So, propped up against the south wall of our house, enjoying the physical realization of my vision of a river of bricks, and smiling like an idiot up at the sun, I remain,

Yr. Obt. Svt.,

w.

PS—Please, folks, when you comment I ask you politely to QUOTE THE EXACT WORDS YOU ARE DISCUSSING. I can defend my own words. I cannot defend your understanding of those same words. Without the quotation, I often have no idea what you are referring to. I know it’s perfectly clear to you … but on this side of the screen, it is often a total mystery just what it was that I said that someone thinks they are referring to. So do yourself and all of us a favor and quote before replying, so we can follow your logic and comprehend your argument.

Finally, no, generally I don’t remember what I said in some discussion with you six months, six years, or often even six days ago. I’ve written over six hundred posts for the web, many of which have engendered long and complex discussions with a huge number of people, with most of the people using fake names. I make no attempt to remember who said what, or what I said. Instead, I simply do my utmost to tell the truth as best I understand it at all times so I don’t have to remember all the trivia—if I need it I’ll look it up.

So please, if you’re going to say anything resembling “But Willis, you were wrong last time when you said that …” to me or anyone, please follow that with a quotation of the exact words that were said. NOT what you remember about those words. NOT what you’ve understood those words to mean. THOSE EXACT WORDS!

Thanks,

w.

DATA: The data in the PSMSL archive is in a horrible format, with a separate file for each station with individual start and end dates. I’ve combined them into the normal data block, stations in columns, times in rows, as a  zipped CSV file here. So … if you have questions about the results or you think I should have done some other kind of analysis … the ball’s in your court. Drop the CSV sea level data file into Excel or your favorite program, do the analysis you think I missed or messed up on, and let us know what you find out.

 

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Alastair Brickell
December 30, 2017 3:14 pm

Thanks for a very good examination of the acceleration myth. Great to have someone with statistical skills have a trawl through the somewhat confusing data. This is exactly why WUWT is such a great resource.

bitchilly
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
December 30, 2017 3:26 pm

great analysis ,love the garden.nice work all round.

Richard G.
Reply to  bitchilly
January 6, 2018 7:18 pm

I would conclude that tides, like climates, are very localized events.

F. Leghorn
December 30, 2017 3:28 pm

So picking and choosing which data to put into the computer changes the output? Who’da thunk it?

Sarc, of course. Btw your brickwork is so awesome I think I don’t like you anymore. I’m not jealous at all, no not at all.

Trebla
December 30, 2017 3:30 pm

Trois Rivieres? That town is hundreds of miles away from the sea? They have tidal gauges there? It’s about 50 miles away from Montreal. My apologies if there’s another Trois Rivieres.

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  Trebla
December 30, 2017 3:53 pm

Trebla
December 30, 2017 at 3:30 pm

Yes, the St. Lawrence is tidal even hundreds of miles from the open sea. Montreal might (only) just be and thus Trois Rivieres could be too.

Reply to  Alastair Brickell
December 30, 2017 5:37 pm

Harmonics.

Jim Anderson
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
December 30, 2017 6:57 pm

Montreal is located as far west as sailing ships could go because of the rapids there. Eventually locks were built around the rapids.

george e. smith
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
January 1, 2018 8:52 pm

And not the faintest chance that the results in that river or those three rivers, is a consequence of the exchange of the kinetic energy of moving water, and the potential energy of tidal heights, and has nothing to do with tidal data.

If you had a tidal bulge rushing west across the Atlantic at around a thousand miles an hour, why would you expect it to build up even higher when it is forced to stop going Westward by the Coasts of the Americas.

I’m not even going to ask if the results Willis got, relate more to the algorithm he came up with for his analysis, than they do with the data he fed into that algorithm.

G

Reply to  Alastair Brickell
January 7, 2018 9:57 pm

Trois Rivieres? I have what I hope is not a foolish question regarding the Saint Lawrence River. Does the volume of water flowing in this river change year to year or decade to decade? I’m thinking floods and droughts and how a tide gauge would be affected.

Reply to  Trebla
December 30, 2017 4:03 pm

http://www.maplandia.com/guadeloupe/trois-rivieres/
3,436 km
Distance from Guadeloupe to Montreal

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  1saveenergy
December 30, 2017 4:16 pm

1saveenergy
December 30, 2017 at 4:03 pm

That makes more sense! Thanks.

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  Trebla
December 30, 2017 4:38 pm

Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2017 at 4:18 pm

OK, Vive la Quebec libre!

lemiere jacques
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
December 31, 2017 2:40 am

vive LE Quebec libre est plus correct…still meanlingless..free of what?

Alastair Brickell
Reply to  Alastair Brickell
December 31, 2017 1:58 pm

lemiere jacques
December 31, 2017 at 2:40 am

“Vive le Quebec Libre” was (in)famously uttered by Charles De Gaulle when he visited Quebec in 1967 giving new momentum to the nascent separatist movement there. It was a cause of huge controversy in Canada and led to a considerable souring of relations with France. This was around the time the separatist movement (FLQ) had kidnapped and killed the British consulate in Montreal…if my memory serves me correctly.

Reply to  Trebla
December 30, 2017 5:25 pm

There seems to be only one Trois-Rivierres in the PMSL database Willis links to and its GPS coordinates places it in Canada on the St Lawrence river.

Since when are sea levels measured on rivers, especially at locations at least 100 miles from what the mouth at Quebec City?

From Wiki (I think we can trust this snippet, if not others):

The river becomes tidal around Quebec City.

Jon Downriver Detroit
Reply to  John in Oz
December 30, 2017 6:25 pm

To John in Oz: You’re right. Wikipedia also says the St. Lawrence estuary starts at the eastern tip of the Ile d’Orleans just downstream of Quebec City. Google Earth shows the altitude of the water surface at Trois-Riviere is 18-20 feet. The river channel is likely to be dredged for a shipping channel to a depth of 28 feet, like it is in the shipping channel in the Detroit River and Lake Erie (I have marine charts for those). So is the dip in the Trois-Riviere plot in the 1950’s due to dredging for the construction of the St. Lawrence Seaway shipping channel to be widened and deepened for sea-going vessels? The Seaway was finally approved in the Eisenhower administration.

Quebec City’s river surface is also a few feet above sea level according to Google Earth, and should probably be excluded from the tidal gauge data, since it is more likely to be river depth data. And Montreal is further upstream from Trois-Riviere and is the site of the first lock on the St. Lawrence at the suburb of St. Lambert with a 15 foot drop.

Bruce Robertson
Reply to  John in Oz
December 30, 2017 6:41 pm

What’s worse is the flow over Niagara Falls (upriver from Trois-Rivierres) is modulated on a daily basis. Therefore, humans *are* at fault for changing water levels.

Archie
Reply to  John in Oz
December 30, 2017 8:25 pm

Water levels need to be measured on any tidal river that is used for navigation, or one could end up embarrassing themselves by getting stuck in the mud. If I remember correctly, the Potomac River in DC has a 3 foot swing in the tides.

Don K
Reply to  John in Oz
December 31, 2017 1:08 am

The problem at Trois-Riviere is likely due to two factors. Winter ice and Spring floods on the many rivers feeding the St Lawrence. e.g. Lake Champlain — which drains into the St Lawrence via the Richelieu River. The “tide gauges” there regularly swing between 93 feet in late Fall and 99 feet or more during the Spring snow melt. comment image I would assume that the other parts of the St Lawrence basin also have large seasonal swings.

gnomish
Reply to  Trebla
December 30, 2017 8:05 pm

“How do we deal, not just with this instance of Trois-Rivieres, but with the more general underlying problem that the month-to-month variations in sea level are of very different sizes at different tidal stations around the globe?”
yeah, there is a right way:
you do your charts for each individual station with no averaging.
averaging makes mud.

gnomish
Reply to  gnomish
December 30, 2017 11:26 pm

won’t want you as the sound engineer in any recording studio, for sure.
your response is idiotic, too. you just lose it when your vanity isn’t coddled, eh?

gnomish
Reply to  gnomish
December 30, 2017 11:44 pm

i guess i will just explain it so i can say i did.

when you average data from one place and another completely different place, you are destroying data.
so your conclusions are as relevant as saying that the average person has one ovary and one testicle.

here’s how to do this- pay attention so you can ignore me properly:
produce the trend for each individual station (this preserves the geographical relationships you obliterated with the averaging.)
then sort them into populations of similar trends
and then one can say what proportion of places have what trends and one can say something about regional subsidence.
the same can be done with temperatures (i did a rather more elaborate job for sweden temps years ago before the novelty wore off this topic)

gnomish
Reply to  gnomish
December 31, 2017 2:28 am

maybe you’re gnawing your own cankles, willis.
allow me to demonstrate this according to your often stated requirements:
you said this:
“gnomish, truly, biting my ankles by calling me names? Really? Do you think anyone respects you for that?”

so let’s see if you will follow your own rules as an honest man would-
as you accuse me of calling you names you will now quote me, howbow dah?

truly, tho- you troll your own threads all the time. so far as i know, heckling the crowd is was mostly done by the carnival clown at the dunk-tank.

habits are very hard to break, n’est ce pas? but you can’t resist the tarbaby, so enjoy your pastime in your golden years.
have a happy new year and my best to the lady.
may she soothe you when you’re overwrought and calm you when you’re agitated. Xanax for the rest, eh?

Kristi Silber
Reply to  gnomish
December 31, 2017 3:13 am

I agree. There are great regional differences in sea level rise, which can get washed out by averages. One has to take account of where the stations in the subset are, whatever subset is examined,especially if one is using the criteria he did. The inclusion of the Trois-Riviere station is an example of how much this can affect the results – it should never have been included since it is so subject to short-term factors. How many others are there than shouldn’t have been used?

This site shows a map of more recent change, measured by satellite altimetry, which avoids the problem of land level changes. http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/coasts/sealevel/

Kaiser Derden
Reply to  gnomish
December 31, 2017 6:05 am

you really are a pissant aren’t you …

Mann Bearpig
Reply to  gnomish
December 31, 2017 6:29 am

The averaging will show the nett sea level change over the sample and timescale. Using your logic, you also have to consider how a global temperature is deduced. In order to combine different data types (sea and land temperatures) we end up with an ‘average’ global temperature. )See Michael Mann Hockeystick drawing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_graph

Reply to  Trebla
December 31, 2017 4:55 am

It is important to remember that the primary job of most tide gauges is as an aid to shipping …

Tide gauges have a practical application in the shipping and fishing industries where low or high tide levels can hinder or prohibit access to shallow bays or locations with bridges. To this end, many industries have installed private tide gauges in ports across the country and also rely on government agencies (such as NOAA).
Data collected from tide gauges is also of interest to scientists measuring global weather patterns, the mean sea water level, and trends – notably those potentially associated with global warming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tide_gauge

The Trois Rivieres gauge may be the most extreme example of this.

JEM
Reply to  rovingbroker
December 31, 2017 10:32 am

Same issue as using temperatures from airports…

brian williams
Reply to  Trebla
December 31, 2017 6:53 am

trois rivieres is halfway between quebec city and montreal, the st lawrence is brackish until the ile d orleons just east of quebec. there is a large tidal effect at quebec.

BillP
Reply to  Trebla
December 31, 2017 7:00 am

I found the way that one rogue station messed up the results to be the most interesting part of this article.

The main lesson for this is to check for stations that differ significantly from the others. Imagine if Willis Eschenbach had generated Figure 2 first and tried to draw conclusions from it.

Having identified a rogue station the correct thing to do is what this group has done; study that station to determine why it is different.

In this case the reason is that it is a long way up a river. I understand why they measure the water levels there, however, there is clearly a lot more than tide affecting the readings. So in this case the correct response is to remove the station’s data from the analysis.

All this applies to many other areas, we all know that much, if not all, “global” warming is due to some stations being exposed to localised heating. Honest climatologists would attempt to identify and remove such rogue stations.

PiperPaul
Reply to  Trebla
January 1, 2018 5:59 pm

Eventually locks were built around the rapids.

The full St. Lawrence Seaway:
comment image

Jones
December 30, 2017 3:32 pm

Oh Lordy, it’s worse than we thought… Erudite analysis on sea-level effects of global warming ice melt in this article.

“Just as standing atop a trampoline causes it to sag, packing extra weight on our round Earth causes the Earth to become squished.”

“Turns out, the squishing effect is big enough that our satellite altimeters—which measure the height of the ocean surface relative to the center of the Earth, but don’t notice what’s happening at the seafloor—may be underestimating global sea level rise.”

“Underestimating”…….. We’re all doomed…..Damn that squishing.

https://earther.com/climate-change-is-causing-the-seafloor-to-sink-1821632553

F. Leghorn
Reply to  Jones
December 30, 2017 3:34 pm

“Damn that squishing” is my new favorite saying.

December 30, 2017 3:45 pm

Nice analysis. Had not seen it done that way in the past. See my guest post here some time ago on sea level rise and closure for an alternative analysis that reaches the same conclusion you do about no evidence of acceleration. PMSML has about 140 diff GPS land motion corrected tide gauges, but only about 70 with records at least 60 years long (the minimum formtrends because of lunar and current (AMO,PDO) tide variations. Those give about 2.2mm/year and no acceleration. What is noce is that the estimate ties closely to the best estimates of the closure problem.
When two completely different methods yield the same ‘no acceleration’ conclusion, it is a strong reinforcement of an Anti CAGW message. Regards.

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 30, 2017 5:41 pm

Willis, sort of easy. Google ‘GPS PSMSL’ or some such. Appropriately linked keywords Should take you directly to the GPS PSMSL webpage. Lots of pictures and explanations, but no data. That webpage links to where the data actually is, SONEL.org. Link over there, and a beautiful map appears of all such stations—with no data on the essential minimum 60 year record length. So, you have to build your own data table by subtracting from the SONEL list all those stations with less than 60 years on the equivalent PSMSL list. The remaining uncertainty, as you identified in your post, is record completeness.

Bill Illis
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 31, 2017 4:27 am

Sonel.org maintains a database of the Tide Gauges which are co-located with GPS stations and there are now more than 200 co-located stations that are operating past the 5 years which is required to obtain a good consistent GPS vertical uplift record.

The data can be obtained here:

http://www.sonel.org/-Sea-level-trends-.html?lang=en

1960-1992, GPS adjusted tide gauges –> +1.82 mms/year.

1992 to 2013, GPS adjusted tide gauges –> +2.12 mms/year.

In 2011, GPS adjusted tide gauges -> +2.79 mms.

In 2012, GPS adjusted tide gauges -> +4.25 mms.

In 2013, GPS adjusted tide gauges -> -0.345 mms.

Since sea level changes with the ENSO, we should expect a very large rise in 2015 and then a large decline in 2016 and a flat 2017.

Pat McAdoo
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 31, 2017 2:30 pm

The GPS stations can and do reflect actual elevation of the station. Takes many samples of 4 satellites, but can be done. Lat/long accuracy is a piece of cake using the actual carrier wave and post processing like they do with surveys.

Problem is the “earth monument” used for the sea level value could be moving, not just up/down but horizontally, as Willis and others point out. So I like the U.S. Navy satellite data of the oceans, as the data is referenced to the center of the Earth.

There are pictures from south Louisiana that show the subsidence of the land. Apparently some street signs were embedded in either rock or deep enough to show the vertical loss of land. Due to river diversion, levees and other exampes of man’s messing around with mother nature, the land is going away because the area isn’t flooded anymore. Additionally, the hydro pressure is not what it was when I was a kid in the 50’s growing up in New Orleans. That shore south of I-10 is losing about a football field of soil every hour due to basic tides.

As with the use of a 30-year baseline for all the anomaly graphs, maybe we should do the same for the sea level using the satellite data. The sea level is not as important to the military navies as the depths, shoals, seamounts and such. The tides are players, but you use relative sea level for amphibious landings and such. So take 30 years and do as the temperature dudes do with “anomalies”.

Gums….

Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
December 31, 2017 4:31 pm

Bill Illis:

http://www.sonel.org/-Sea-level-trends-.html?lang=en

Thanks for the link.
Accounting for vertical land movement, Los Angeles, Sitka, Skagway, Unalaska, and Brisbane AU all show a net drop in sea level.

Juneau, between Sitka and Skagway, shows a net sea level rise of 2.69 mm/year. That doesn’t make much sense.

There are two GPS units shown for the Los Angeles gauge. One 2168 m distant but still on the coast gives a net sea level change of +1.07 mm/year, while another 24,686 m inland gives a net change of -2.21 mm/year.

Distance of GPS locations from the Alaska gauges range from 10,238 to 24,922 m. The closest GPS to the Brisbane gauge is 18,490 m. Maybe the GPS should be a bit closer to the tide gauge to be useful.

Bill Illis
Reply to  Willis Eschenbach
January 1, 2018 4:20 am

verdeviewer,

You are right, the GPS stations should be as close as possible. Most of these stations have a GPS station in the same facility as the tide gauge but 1.0 or 2.0 kms away should be good enough as long as they are not on opposite sides of a fault or a landfill/sinking area.

The other issue this raises, is that one needs a very large number of tide gauges to be able to measure general sea level change properly. Besides the issue of vertical land movement, there is just a lot of variability between the stations. Even corrected for vertical land change, the tide gauges vary between -2.7 mms/year to 5.0 mms/year.

I would say you need 300 or 400 good stations to so this properly. I have played around with this data enough to know that is what is required. If a study used less than this, a person could carefully cherrypick a set of 200 stations and get any number you want. Church and White, for example, have done lots of these sea level studies and use a large number of stations in each, but they change the ones they use from study to study which is odd of course and one should wonder why. In my numbers above, I manually adjusted the dataset to ensure the exact same GPS-adjusted tide gauges were used throughout.

December 30, 2017 3:49 pm

I recently watched an episode of “Mega Builders” about the construction of commuter rail project in Istanbul:

Weary commuters in Istanbul, Turkey must tough it out after the Marmaray Project is delayed four years by the discovery of the city’s fourth century port with thirty-four ancient shipwrecks. It’s one of the most significant maritime archaeological discoveries ever made. But, inconveniently, the port is discovered at Yenikapi, site of the biggest subway station in this $3.5 billion, seventy-seven kilometre long rapid transit project aimed at easing Istanbul’s traffic woes.

While digging for the central subway station foundation at Yenikapi they ran into shipwrecks which were once at the bottom of one of Constantinople’s commercial harbors called Harbour of Eleutherios and later Harbour of Theodosius. This article says it was built during the late 4th century and in use until at least the 11th century based on dating of the excavated wrecks. The article goes on to say:

The area was later transformed for agricultural use due to the effects of erosion and silting. In Ottoman times, the area was built over.

Presumably if the sea level were rising the harbor would not have been abandoned due to silting.

Reply to  Alan Watt, Climate Denialist Level 7
December 31, 2017 1:32 am

More examples on this page
http://www.use-due-diligence-on-climate.org/home/climate-change/sea-level-rise/local/
See Harlech Castle built 1289,

Gerontius
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 9:06 am

The castle was supplied by ship. Yes, but not by the sea. A stream about 2 foot across at the foot of the castle hill was diverted and canalised to form a channel some 10 foot wide and today some 3 foot deep for 1 mile to a point called Ty Gwyn y Gamlas at Ynys Talysarnau which opened up to a tidal river Afon y Glyn. Much of the flat marsh was in existence at the time the castle was built. Historians state that Edward I when visiting the construction had horse races organised. There is a farm today on the marsh between the sea and castle called Fridd Rasus in English means field of races.

There is no need to take my word for this the canal is readily observed from google maps and more pertinently satellite images. There is no reason for drainage to make the cut so large and in the direction it took the only plausible reason is for shipping. The full name for the point at which it enters the tidal river is Ty Gwyn y Gamlas, which means the white house of the canal. Fridd Rasus may be googled for the recycling centre site today and from that the recycling centre is marked on the OS map near Ty Glan Mor.

The ditch is clearly artificial, the name indicates that it was used for shipping, it leads to the foot of the castle. The only question is when was it constructed? the land it passes through was in existence during the castle’s construction as they had horse races further out towards the sea. the existence of the low level gate in Harlech castle is a fact but was it a sea gate or a gate to the canal?

Gerontius
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 9:56 am

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/415281/details/ty-gwyn-y-gamlas

please see the alternative explanation to the sea gate on Harlech castle. The truth is no one has ever shown me conclusive proof as to whether the canal is contemporary to the castle construction or was an afterthought. Or whether the sea actually reached the foot of the castle when it was built. It is often stated that Edward I, castles in Wales were lapped by the sea. Yet FFlint and Rhuddlan are both on tidal rivers and Castell y Bere was inland. Beaumaris, Cricieth and Caernarfon are coastal so the assumption has been that Harlech was on the sea.

Gerontius
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 10:12 am

for the site of the race course
which supposedly dates to the casltes construction

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george e. smith
Reply to  1saveenergy
January 1, 2018 9:17 pm

Say Gerontius; interesting narrative there, and the horse races too.

I even remember when I was younger; circa 1951 going to the horse races on Boxing
Day (day after Christmas) specifically to watch the Auckland cup and associated races; NZ’s biggest horse race.

You would never guess which horse won the Auckland Cup race that year …. Beaumaris !!

The second race for the double that day (for two year olds), was won by a really fine horse by the name of “Mainbrace”. As I recall the second horse was named “The Unicorn”, which was the principle competition that Mainbrace ever came up against. A filly I can’t remember was third, and paid more to show than either of the other two horses paid. I remember Mainbrace was such an odds on favorite, that it only paid 19/6d for a pound to win.
You actually lost sixpence on every quid you bet to win. I remember it well because I talked my mother’s lady friend into switching her bet for a place from the filly to The Unicorn. Last time I gave anybody some expert advice.

G

Latitude
December 30, 2017 3:55 pm

Patio is incredible…..fantastic job!!

Leonard Lane
December 30, 2017 3:57 pm

Nice analyses of many data sets. Looks like another climate change myth has been uncovered.
Thank you Willis.

December 30, 2017 3:58 pm

Why your “ex”??? WHAT DID YOU DO???

SteveS
Reply to  nabbiz
December 30, 2017 4:42 pm

I would guess he married her…hence c-fiance, new wife

Hugs
Reply to  nabbiz
December 31, 2017 12:19 am

Usually in movies they build the patio /afterwards/ to hide the body 😉

Willis, I just wish I had the money to have a garden like that. Little greenies build so small a town with so many people in I have no chance.

John Bell
December 30, 2017 3:58 pm

Where is that, north Cali? I love Michigan but it is tough right now, 10 deg F.

Don K
Reply to  John Bell
December 31, 2017 1:20 am

Plus 10? Consider yourself lucky. We’re at -7F (-22C) with “dangerous windchill” warnings until noon Monday here in northern Vermont. Oh well — There are no bugs out and I don’t have to worry about mowing the lawn which is under a foot of snow and ice.

Yogi Bear
December 30, 2017 3:59 pm

Great post, but the patio looks like a pigs ear.

December 30, 2017 4:02 pm

Willis,

Thank you for an interesting exposition. One thing occurred to me when reading this and that has to do with the detrending. I assume that a least squares linear fit is removed from each dataset. I’m curious what the effect is of the differing station series lengths in this process. If a station with 60 years of data is included in a given analysis, what might the trend be for that short time period compared to the trend of a nearby station with a continuous record going back 150 years?

The scenario I envision would be something like this… Suppose Station A has a continuous record from 1857 to 2017. Further, suppose it shows two distinct phases, one from 1857 to 1920 where there is a consistent decrease in apparent sea level and another from 1921 to present where there is a consistent rise in apparent sea level from 1921 to present. Now suppose Station B exhibits the same apparent fall then rise in mean sea level, but the records exist for only a subset of the 160 years that Station A has.

If Station B records are for the early time period, say 1857 to 1916, then the detrending would show a flat line as there was a steady decrease over that time period. But if the records for B run from 1875 to 1934, then the detrended data would show the transition from decrease to increase. Likewise if the B records run from 1940 to 1999, for exanple, then the detrended data would again be flat.

My wondering, perhaps you could even call it concern, is that by analysing datasets of differing lengths using a detrending step you will have the effect of flattening out any decadal signal that might be present in the raw data. Does that sound like it might be happening in this analysis?

Reply to  chugiaktinkerer
December 30, 2017 4:13 pm

Is it a reasonable assumption that the missing years are randomly distributed? Probably yes.

I note that Willis’ subset analyses give the same message whether the good data length is increased or decreased.

Javert Chip
December 30, 2017 4:03 pm

I love this stuff from Willis. Lots of reasons to scratch my already bald head.

The other enjoyable part of this (probably not so much for Willis), will be, as the thread grows, the several folks who either fail to follow guidance and quote Willis’ words, or simply just make stuff up and accuse Willis of having said or implied it.

Ignorance you can address; but you just can’t cure stupid.

PS:

I also just returned rom the Solomons (November) – I’m a WWII history buff & son of a WWII US Marine. Guadalcanal was my specific interest.

December 30, 2017 4:04 pm

Love it, Willis

Just shows what a bit of lateral thinking from an amateur (albeit a very gifted amateur) can do to put these things in perspective. Haven’t seen the Douglas paper but it looks very much like your bit of peer review could be useful!

(aside – do we take that all your subset analyses of the Douglas data are GIA-adjusted in the same way as the original paper?)

Latitude
December 30, 2017 4:06 pm

We have CORS almost everywhere now….and certainly close enough to tide gauges to measure rebound or subsistence…

Louis Hooffstetter
Reply to  Latitude
December 30, 2017 5:55 pm

Yes, and using it to correct tide gauge data for rebound or subsidence to determine actual sea level rise would be a relatively easy and profoundly enlightening Doctoral dissertation for a geology grad student.

In the meantime, below is my favorite (and previously posted) video on sea level rise. It compares actual tide gauge data to alarmist projections and also illustrates the effects of rebound and subsidence at numerous locations:

December 30, 2017 4:07 pm

By the way, the brickwork looks great. I undertook a similar project about ten years ago, but it was about one fourth the size. I have tremendous respect for the work that went into yours!

Robert B
December 30, 2017 4:12 pm

No need to detrend. My suggestion is a histogram of linear fits to the first differences from 1975 compared to the period from 1900 to 1940. If you can’t spot a distinct subset with a narrow distribution in the broad distribution, the data is not good enough to see acceleration with out subjective choices that could introduce a trend that is not there.

daveandrews723
December 30, 2017 4:22 pm

A couple of alarmists come out with a study that claims to show accelerating sea level rise. It gets peer reviewed by several like-minded alarmists who, of course, give it their stamp of approval because it confirms their own assumptions. All of a sudden it is declared as “settled science” and anyone who challenges it is a denier. Thanks for your efforts to bring some balance and actual science to the debate.

Lance Wallace
December 30, 2017 4:37 pm

Making the data available in more accessible form is a great boon for those who would like to check on AGW claims. I recall that the the USCRN data was only available station by station some years ago when I wanted to analyze the data. Haven’t checked it recently but if still available only piecemeal it would be nice if there was available an algorithm for getting all the data in one piece. Maybe a Website where persons could deposit their programs for getting temperature, tide station, etc. data in one Excel/other file.

StephenP
Reply to  Lance Wallace
December 31, 2017 2:07 am

Wasn’t it some scientist at the University of East Anglia who said that he wouldn’t release his raw data because someone would try to find something different with it, compared to his own conclusions?

Adam Gallon
Reply to  StephenP
January 1, 2018 8:04 am

The noble Professor Jones, University of Easy Access & Climategate fame.
““Even if WMO [the World Meteorological Organisation] agrees, I will still not pass on the data. We have 25 or so years invested in the work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to try and find something wrong with it”

December 30, 2017 5:00 pm

I got lost on the statistics – I’ll have my wife, the PhD economist take a stab. But I also want to relate the views of the crab fisherman from Maryland who said he has not see a water level change since 1970. http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/01/commercial-crabber-of-50-years-tells-gore-sea-level-hasnt-changed-since-at-least-1970/?utm_source=site-share

Neil Jordan
December 30, 2017 5:03 pm

Fascinating analysis, and reassuring that you won’t have to add another layer of paving bricks to your beautiful patio. I didn’t note in your analysis whether the ~19-year Metonic Cycle in sea level would affect anything. The cycle sets the lower limit on number of years for averaging, and supports the 60-year suggested minimum averaging to give at least three cycles. NOAA Tides & Currents has a reprint of American Council on Surveying and Mapping “Understanding Sea Level Change” that describes the cycle, and measurement of sea level. Link is here:
http://www.tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/Understanding_Sea_Level_Change

Kent Noonan
December 30, 2017 5:20 pm

Willis, Can you identify what criteria was used by Douglas that changed the subset down to 24 sites? You mention his 60 years and 80% produces a subset of 235 stations. How did he get down to 24?

Different topic: an interesting alternate analysis could detrend these records relative to a standardized period, say a 1920 to 1960 baseline (most of the records are pretty flat in that period). The choice of baseline period obviously would alter the results, but each record would present the changes relative to that same “normal” period. This would probably put the early 1800s bump into a proper perspective, rather than tilting everything to match the average that includes that, but missing in some. Early 1800s probably featured a lot of ice melting, end of LIA. All of these analyses show things were different after about 1870. This would also provide a constant rate just before the claimed 1970 increase, with all records agreeing that 1961 is the beginning of results that might show acceleration.

A C Osborn
Reply to  Kent Noonan
December 31, 2017 3:44 am

I would suggest that he looked at all the sites and then chose the ones that gave the story he wanted to tell.
On that basis they have now been caught with the their fingers in the Adjustment pie and are now busy rewriting Tide Gauge History.
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2017/12/05/adjustments-to-create-spurious-sea-level-rise-have-now-infected-the-psmsl-tide-gauge-data/

Auto
Reply to  A C Osborn
December 31, 2017 4:20 pm

A C
Is that –
On that basis they have now been caught with the their fingers in the Adjustment pie and are now busy rewriting Tide Gauge History – with several fat fingers on one side of the scales?

Perhaps?

Auto.

poitsplace
December 30, 2017 5:35 pm

Me, I simply looked over the records and found that with few exceptions, the tide gages only reported an admittedly noisy linear trend. Short ones do, long term ones do. And when you do find an exception it’s usually some sort of step change … that simply prompts you to look for local earthquake activity at the time of the change and BINGO…you find that there was that kind of change which caused the different rate.

ferdberple
Reply to  poitsplace
December 31, 2017 6:02 am

I simply looked
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my math prof from years ago was big on the mark one eyeball as the primary analysis tool. he taught that it was easy to fool yourself in statistics and find spurious trends that were not actually part of the underlying data. rather a product of the methods chosen.

this is confirmed in the work Willis has done above. changing the method changes the result.

this points to an inherent problem in statistical analysis. methods shopping. trying different statistical approaches until a method is found that returns a specific result. the problem is that in all likelihood this result is a false positive.

the problem comes when this is submitted for peer review. if the researcher mentions that multiple methods were tried until a result was found everyone will know the result is likely false.

so the researcher has a large incentive to keep quiet about the different methods tried and only mention the one that returned a result.
and we are left with an epidemic of false positives in science. unfortunately peer review cannot detect a lie of omission so peer review is not a solution to the problem.

Don K
Reply to  ferdberple
January 1, 2018 2:21 am

“my math prof from years ago was big on the mark one eyeball as the primary analysis tool. he taught that it was easy to fool yourself in statistics and find spurious trends that were not actually part of the underlying data. rather a product of the methods chosen.”

Ferd, I was making a final pass through this thread to see if I’d failed to address any comments directed to me. Your comment caught my eye. I pretty much agree with your professor. BUT we do have a counterexample here. My eyeball says Trois-Rivieres is pretty much “normal”. So did Willis’s. And probably yours as well. Turns out it’s not. Even knowing it’s a problem, it’s hard to see eyeball-wise that it’s a problem or why.

Robert
December 30, 2017 5:39 pm

Another triumph of observation over ‘truth’..
I love it.
Teachings of Progressivism must be exposed truth by truth.
One by one.
Nice work.

December 30, 2017 5:54 pm

Looks like a lot of world war data gaps. These add a non random component as during WWI the planet was sharply warming, and during WWII sharply cooling from a maximum in the late 30’s.

It is generally agreed that the ocean surface temperature drives atmospheric temperature. To whatever extent the ocean surface warms, it simply must expand; and the reverse when cooling.

This should drive sea level rise (and fall), unless there is compensating cooling at depth…

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