Climate Craziness of the Week – @kurteichenwald: "I predicted Irma using 'climate equation' 100% correct"

From the ‘I’m not a scientist but I play one in Vanity Fair” department comes this ridiculous tweet from writer Kurt Eichenwald.

Via Wikipedia: no mention of climate or weather skill:

Kurt Alexander Eichenwald (born June 28, 1961) is an American journalist who serves as a senior writer with Newsweek, a contributing editor with Vanity Fair and a New York Times bestselling author of four books, one of which, The Informant (2000), was made into a motion picture in 2009. He was formerly a writer and investigative reporter with The New York Times and later with Condé Nast‘s business magazine, Portfolio. Eichenwald had been employed by The New York Times since 1986 and primarily covered Wall Street and corporate topics such as insider tradingaccounting scandals, and takeovers, but also wrote about a range of issues including terrorism, the Bill Clinton pardon controversy, Federal health care policy, and sexual predators on the Internet.

Of course, that makes him highly qualified (in Alt-climate world) to say things like this:

Rightfully, since he didn’t show any work, he’s being flamed in replies to that tweet.

Dr Ryan Maue was quick to weigh in:

https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/905097503963533312

UPDATE: Eichenwald’s ego explodes:

Then, oh never mind, blame it on Fox news!

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Joe Fone
September 5, 2017 7:36 pm

He predicted it AFTER it had already appeared. He’ll wait to see where it’s track takes it and then he’ll claim he ‘predicted’ that as well… to 100% accuracy. Twit.

Derek Shaffer
September 5, 2017 8:49 pm

September 5, 2017 8:54 pm

weathernerds.org has a good spaghetti graph of the models and it appears the europeans are having it hit SC or out to sea (higher prob) than hitting FL. But we shall see.

the Exorcist
September 5, 2017 9:41 pm

And I predicted WWII before I was born…
Post hoc clairvoyance.

Clouseau
September 5, 2017 11:53 pm

Regarding Kurt Eichenwald’s challenge, I’ll take a stab at it.
[quote]The Clausius–Clapeyron relation characterizes behavior of a closed system during a phase change, during which temperature and pressure are constant by definition.[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clausius%E2%80%93Clapeyron_relation
[quote]In thermodynamics, a closed system can exchange energy (as heat or work) but not matter, with its surroundings.[/quote]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_system
Hurricanes are not closed systems under this definition. For one thing, they both gain and lose matter continuously, receiving matter in the form of moisture gained from ocean evaporation, and ejecting matter in the form of rain. Further, neither temperature nor pressure are constant in a hurricane.
The Clausius-Clapeyron equation gives the derivative (local slope) of the curve demarking phase transitions on a pressure-vs-temperature diagram (see example below) for a particular material. It is applicable to describing the phenomena of evaporation and raindrop formation, which are both phase changes that happen in hurricanes. But the hurricane as a whole doesn’t meet the conditions for the equation, so the equation doesn’t make any predictions about any hurricane as a whole.
The Clausius-Clapeyron equation is part of a description of a material property (specifically, how a material, which in the case of a hurricane would be water, behaves regarding phase transitions); it’s not part of a description of the size, intensity, or any other overall aspect of a hurricane as a whole. Hurricanes come in all different sizes and intensities; the phase transition of water between vapor and liquid, which this equation applies to, happens the same way in all of them.
By the way, if Kurt Eichenwald thinks that somehow “global warming” had anything to do with the strength of Hurrican Harvey, what were his predictions for the previous seven named storms of the 2017 Atlantic hurricane season? Or did global warming suddenly increase right after Hurricane Gert petered out in mid-August?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Atlantic_hurricane_season

Clouseau
September 5, 2017 11:57 pm

I’m sorry, where I wrote “see example below,” I was going to try to attach the generic phase change diagram from the wikipedia page I cited, but then I couldn’t figure out how to do the attachment/link. If you want to see the diagram just go to the wiki page I linked.

Ed Zuiderwijk
September 6, 2017 2:47 am

My equation, no error.
Crackpot is the word you are looking for.

September 6, 2017 5:43 am

This is the science paper he saw and thinks it’s the track of hurricane Irma
http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~mkim57/C1211&1212Lab/11_CCE_Drvn1.jpg

Resourceguy
September 6, 2017 5:51 am

I predict more climate craziness and it can be predicted with 100 percent accuracy by rising CO2 along. That is until an ice age causes extinction. Extreme suppression of interglacial trends and indicators is also required.

DCA
September 6, 2017 6:20 am

Why is it that so many of these climate change alarmists have German names?
i.e. Hansen, Schmidt, Mann, Schneider, Rahmstorf, Steig, Romm, ect.

Sheri
September 6, 2017 6:27 am

Many times this type of article and much of science itself reminds me of my statistics classes in college. There was a class for psych majors (required) that taught what a P value was and that it showed the results of the experiment were likely not from chance. (In those days, they didn’t say “caused by”.) However, I wanted to know why the statistics worked, so I took the calculus-based statistics course also, to understand how the math actually worked. I had a second major in Chemistry, so was already taking calculus. Most psych majors believed they understood the whole P value and statistics ideas. Yet they had no idea whatsoever if the process they used was appropriate to the situation, if there was a better or more appropriate statistic, that more than one statistical procedure could be used and different results would occur, etc. They just learned to plug in numbers and redo the experiement until the numbers worked or change the statistic applied. I see that over and over again in many sciences now (the most notable being the skeptic versus realists diagram at the infamous nonskeptical science site). Just find an equation that gives the desired answer.

Russell Cook (@QuestionAGW)
September 6, 2017 9:03 am

At a PBS NewsHour “Did climate change make recent extreme storms worse?” online comment section, a guy with the user name “Sequoia sempervirens” hurled the Clausius-Clapeyron equation at me right after he called me a paid denier. It’s the #1 comment now ( http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/climate-change-make-recent-extreme-storms-worse/#comment-3495266892 ), since comments upvoted to Best status rise to the top. Leaves me wondering two things: is Sequoia sempervirens and Kurt Eichenwald the same guy, or is the Clausius-Clapeyron some kind of new talking point tool created for AGW fanatics to use in order to make them sound like they are really smart?

Michael Jankowski
Reply to  Russell Cook (@QuestionAGW)
September 6, 2017 12:24 pm

Mann mentioned the equation in his pathetic explanation as to how climate change certainly made Harvey worse, and it has spread like wildfire. Instead of hurling “97% consensus,” they throw-out “Clausius-Clapeyron.” They don’t have to understand it or know how to apply it. They just say it makes hurricanes worse and can defer to Mann if necessary.

Kpar
September 6, 2017 11:05 am

“He was formerly a writer and investigative reporter with The New York Times…”
‘Nuff said…

Clouseau
September 6, 2017 4:49 pm

BTW, a little background, for those who might care.
This equation that he’s mis-using was discovered during the Age of Steam. In the mid-1800’s steam was the Big Thing. People had been building steam engines since the 1700’s and by the 1800’s they were being used to power many things and had become important. Industrial economic development, railroads, ships, all were being powered by steam. The development of the science of thermodynamics was in part driven by the desire to figure out how to build better steam engines. A nation that had better steam engines would have more efficient factories and faster Navy ships. So some of the top scientists were working on what is now considered classical thermodynamics. Clausius and Clapeyron were among them.
What’s the deal with a “closed system” in the above definition?
“In thermodynamics, a closed system can exchange energy (as heat or work) but not matter, with its surroundings.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_system
Something that fits that definition is … a steam engine! Another thing that can fit the definition is a benchtop experimental apparatus in a scientist’s laboratory. But let’s go with the steam engine and you’ll get the point.
The steam engine takes in energy as heat from the fire under the boiler. It puts out work when high-pressure steam from the boiler pushes a piston in a cylinder, and the piston turns a crank which makes a shaft turn. This is called “shaft work,” a term also used for lame humor by sophomore geek engineering students. Finally, the engine outputs waste heat when the low-pressure steam coming out of the cylinder goes to a condenser, where the steam gives up its remaining heat and condenses back to liquid water. This is then pumped back into the boiler. Thus there is a closed loop for the matter involved (water) but with energy going in and out in the forms of heat and work. Hence, a “closed system” under the definition. Note again that a hurricane doesn’t fit this definition.
A couple of minor points: Nowadays steam engines use turbines instead of pistons to turn the shafts. Otherwise all the above still applies. Sometimes nuclear energy is used instead of fire to heat the boiler. Also, in all practical engines, there are occasions to open the system. The main one is the safety valve on top of the boiler, which opens if the pressure gets too high, letting out some steam (matter). Likewise, the operator of the engine, (think old-time locomotive engineer) can manually open the valve, which toots the train whistle. He may do this to lower the pressure in the boiler, or just for signalling. Water lost in this way has to be made up by water from a reservoir tank.
What about the business of constant temperature and pressure?
“The Clausius–Clapeyron relation characterizes behavior of a closed system during a phase change, during which temperature and pressure are constant by definition.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clausius%E2%80%93Clapeyron_relation
There are two parts of the steam engine where phase change occurs: the boiler and the condenser. In the boiler water changes from liquid to gas (steam, water vapor), in the condenser it changes from gas back to liquid.
Think of a well-operated train running on a straight and level track at constant speed. The engineer is keeping an eye on the boiler pressure and temperature gauges, and telling the fireman when to occasionally shovel a little more coal into the fire under the boiler. He’s keeping the pressure and temperature as constant as possible so as to maintain the constant speed of the train. As for the condenser, it’s rejecting the waste heat to the ambient air outside, which is “constant” for practical purposes, until the weather changes. Likewise the pressure in the condenser is approximately constant while the engine is running steadily at constant power output. In the practical situation of an operating engine in the 1800’s, all of these “constant” parameters are actually jittering around slightly all the time, but they’re close enough to constant to make the idealized math applicable enough.
As mentioned above, the benchtop apparatus for the scientist studying these phase transitions is also built to meet the criteria for constant temperature and pressure, and more accurately so than an operating engine would be. The scientists like Clausius and Clapeyron were figuring out the exact relationship between phase transition and heat energy under different temperature and pressure conditions for various substances, water the most important of them.
I hope that helps de-mystify the whole thing a little. It’s a complicated subject but for some of us it helps to relate it back to its humble origins in the science of steam engines.

NME666
September 7, 2017 7:10 pm

this guy sounds like a bull farmer

Gary D.
September 8, 2017 12:08 am

Kurt Eichenwald, you have a degree in political science. You’ve spent most of your career in journalism, not science.
You admit that you are not a scientist.
Regardless of your lack of scientific credentials and experience, tell me, by what means and by what criteria did you decide that the Clausius–Clapeyron “equation” – by the way, it’s a relation, not an equation, a hint that you don’t know what you’re talking about – was the correct “equation” to use for predicting hurricane Irma’s intensity, growth, and timing?
Oh, by the way, have you ever been suckered by anyone, perhaps by Michael Mann? No, you wouldn’t be, now would you. You’ve got a degree in political science!