Fired EPA staffers form ‘rogue’ anti-Trump support group

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From Free Range Report July 20, 2017

Following eight years under Obama, where there were few constraints on the fatuousness of their policies, or the damage caused by regulatory assaults on private property and individual rights, these little dictators are now looking for other thrones from which to elevate their radicalism.

by Marjorie Haun

The conventional wisdom that administrative agencies have been populated with political activists is evidenced by the lemming-like exodus of left-leaning bureaucrats from of the EPA. On July 19, Greenwire published an article titled, “EPA: The staffer escape network.” Its title infers something akin to a bureaucratic Underground Railroad; a conduit of freedom for government-funded activists who’ve gotten the boot by a new pragmatic, pro-energy, pro-states’ rights administration. However, a reading of Greenwire’s report reveals that these former EPA staffers are not seeking freedom, but are attempting to ensconce themselves into a non-governmental branch of the Deep State. The report says:

EPA alumni are banding together to help their former colleagues find new jobs. They’re creating job boards, passing résumés around and spreading the word via social media. They say it’s an unprecedented networking effort among ex-staffers that comes as many EPA employees are feeling marginalized by the Trump administration’s environmental policies.

But, more than an alumni group, these former EPA staffers appear to be seeking ways to continue their various environmentalist crusades outside of the revamped agency they feel has turned against them. The article continues:

Since the site launched last weekend, a few jobs have already been posted, Elkins said. FedEx Corp. posted a job for an environmental specialist. An EPA alumnus posted another opening at the California Air Resources Board.

He said the alumni group wants to serve as “a network for the people who are leaving EPA.”

Meanwhile, new social media accounts set up by current and former EPA staffers are also trying to support current EPA staff.

The Twitter account @RogueEPAstaff, which claims to be run by “staff, non-staff and some dude” — and has nearly 11,000 followers — posted the link to the jobs board early this week.

“Want to support EPA but not sure how? Hire a climate change hero! Post job opportunities here:”

The Twitter account recently described staffers’ sentiments about the buyouts: “This is what we are all talking about on campus. 3 categories: 1) Fuck them, not leaving, 2) Scared for my job, 3) I’m leaving this shitshow.”

The Rogue EPA Staff Twitter account reads like a message board for climate hysteria, left-wing environmental radicalism, ‘Russia Collusion’ conspiracy theories, and whiners.

This development should come as no surprise to those familiar with the mentality of the environmentalist Left. The formation of so-called ‘resistance’ groups began on Day One following the presidential election. Groups such as AltBLM, AltNPS and others, are composed of both former and current bureaucrats who have come to feel entitled to taxpayer-funded jobs in which they perform political advocacy.

Following eight years under Obama, where there were few constraints on the fatuousness of their policies, or the damage caused by regulatory assaults on private property and individual rights, these little dictators are now looking for other thrones from which to elevate their radicalism. As the bureaucracy escaped accountability for the disastrous EPA-caused Gold King Mine spill, which polluted rivers in four states and resulted in billions of dollars of damage, so individual bureaucrats, like BLM agent, Dan Love, have gotten away with inhumane, unethical and criminal activities that would be harshly punished in the private sector. It’s a little disturbing that disaffected federal employees associated with the ‘Rogue EPA Staff’ and ‘Alt BLM’ are clinging to the bureaucratic evils perpetuated by these agencies for the past eight years.

Not unlike extremist groups such as the Sierra Club and Center for Biological Diversity, these EPA bureaucrats have come to regard themselves as the most-capable, most-moral defenders of the environment. The fact that Obama-era policies were largely based on ideologically-driven globalist agendas, and not actual science, doesn’t matter to these people, because, to the environmentalist Left, all means are justified when the ends mean saving the planet.

Read the full story here.

HT/Steve Lohr

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July 21, 2017 5:11 am

“feel entitled to taxpayer-funded jobs in which they perform political advocacy”
That sums it up nicely

I Came I Saw I Left
Reply to  chaamjamal
July 21, 2017 6:09 am

Basically, we’re talking about two economic classes: one parasitic, the other productive

Reply to  I Came I Saw I Left
July 21, 2017 6:26 am

I call them the makers and the takers.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  I Came I Saw I Left
July 21, 2017 6:52 am

Ants and grasshoppers.

Reply to  I Came I Saw I Left
July 21, 2017 6:53 am

Or the Lifters and Leaners.

Bryan A
Reply to  I Came I Saw I Left
July 21, 2017 10:18 am

Jobs list for the EPA ALUMNI JOBS board
Andy Gump looking to hire 36 highly skilled and well educated Sanitation Engineers
Degree in Climate Science
Class C liscense
Ability to destinguish, properly handle and dispose of Toxic Substances
EPA experience not required but would be a plus
Pays $35 per hour to start (No benefits that is for the government to provide)
Gum Shoes
Degree in Climate Science
Ability to safely and effectively handle a sharp object to remove Gum from Shoes
Ability to destinguish, properly handle and dispose of potentially Toxic Substances
EPA experience not desired but would be a plus
Pays $25 per hour to start (no benefits that is for the government to provide)
A$$ kisser
Degree in Climate Science
Must be a former EPA employee to qualify (no training would be necessary)
Pays $75 per hour to start

Reply to  I Came I Saw I Left
July 22, 2017 12:45 am

Miners and clerks

Reply to  chaamjamal
July 21, 2017 11:49 am

“these former EPA staffers are not seeking freedom, but are attempting to ensconce themselves into a non-governmental branch of the Deep State”
I’m on the otherside of the pond but I assume they don’t want give up their tax payer funded pensions and medical schemes???

Dave Marney
July 21, 2017 5:19 am

What’s the problem with people changing jobs, again? Or helping each other? It’s called “networking”.
Personally, I’m THRILLED that people are leaving the EPA and finding other employment. I’d do exactly the same if my company got new management and changed the corporate mission to something I didn’t want to contribute my time and effort to.

Reply to  Dave Marney
July 21, 2017 6:21 am

The problem seems to be the insidious infiltration of other organisations and private companies from where they feel justified in subverting a democratically elected government by sustaining a rebellious network. Despite them having been employed, and handsomely rewarded whilst working for the taxpayer funded EPA for years. Many will have received generous redundancy packages as well, no doubt.
But this is the nature of the loony left. As long as they have cushy jobs, “I’m alright Jack”.

Reply to  HotScot
July 21, 2017 2:26 pm

And you could say the same thing about the loony right and our defense spending and wars of aggression against countries that would never be an existential threat. I find that a whole lot more disturbing and it eats up ten times as much of the federal budget. Unfortunately many so called lefties are following the loony right when it comes to defense spending and war.

Dave Fair
Reply to  davidgmills
July 21, 2017 2:46 pm

But war gives our young guys so much to do, David.

Reply to  HotScot
July 21, 2017 4:36 pm

And it’s only the ‘loony right’ that perpetrates wars?
Remember WW2? That was at the hand of the Nationalist Socialist Party, Hitler’s Nazi Germany.
Then there’s 20th Century Communist China, another loony left organisation that has accepted right wing, western capitalism as a peaceful means of trade and progression in the 21st Century.
Communist USSR has turned to capitalism, and freed from the tyranny of Communist repression, it’s population is now prospering.
But Communist Cuba and N. Korea are still oppressing their populations for the benefit of a privileged few.
America and the UK took up arms against oppressive regimes, to defend free countries, not just their own, against Communism. Iraq was a monumental mistake, but guess what political persuasion Tony Blair is, yep, a blind, ideological, left wing socialist.
The left and their socialist/communist beliefs have been responsible for more misery on this planet that free trading Capitalists have ever been. And were we free of the scourge of socialism, the free market could provide for everyone, even the poor and destitute, who would benefit from empathy rather than derision for being spongers.
My understanding is that the Muslim faith insists, but not mandates, that everyone provides 5% of their income for the needy. An entirely voluntary contribution based on humanity, not bureaucracy. Their history is steeped in free trade and the acquisition of wealth. Whilst socialism exhibits little more than the politics of envy and elitism.
Socialism is an ideology that has failed at every turn, but continues to flourish in the weak minds of intellectual zealots who care nothing for the poor. And those intellectuals predate on the youth of society, converting them to their cause, in the full knowledge that our youth are ideological prey.
Socialists are no better than ISIS.

Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2017 1:23 pm

Davidgmills, I seem to remember that the Viet Nam War was started by John F. Kennedy who sent advisors and by Lyndon Johnson who expanded it. Both of them were liberal leftists. We lost more soldiers in the Viet Nam war than we lost in World War I. Talk about loony defense spending and a loony war.

Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2017 2:35 pm

@ Hotscot. Where did I say a single thing about the governments of other countries? Nowhere. The subject I thought was “America’s” loony left unless the EPA is in some country other than ours. My complaint was about our country spending more than half its budget on a military whose spending on defense is more than about the next six or seven countries’ defense spending combined. The bitch of people here was how much was being frivolously spent on our EPA as if this is some vast sum that is going to send us all to ruin. It is paltry compared to what we spend on defense. That was my point.
And from a narrow comparison of the present spending by America on the EPA versus spending on the Defense Department, you somehow leave the topic of American politics of today and expand the comparison to the whole world of the last century, and lump both fascists and communists around the world for the last century with America’s so called left of today.
As for socialism, if you don’t like it, don’t send your kids to public schools or spend your social security check, or get medicare. Don’t drive on our highways or get on our bridges. If the government has anything to do with helping its citizens other than by defending us with the most expensive war machine ever made, that is apparently socialism to you.
Your idea of what socialism is is garbage. You seem to be just another person who hates most of his fellow Americans. I choose not to. I wish them all well.

Reply to  davidgmills
July 22, 2017 7:30 pm

You ignore the cost of compliance with EPA regulations, which is sometimes a transfer to favored players, like wind and solar investors.

Reply to  davidgmills
July 23, 2017 1:55 am

I’m a Scot, living in England, and I admire/admired America’s concept of individual liberty.
Nor is the communal contribution to funding public facilities uniquely socialist, capitalism provides adequately for those facilities.
The problem with socialism is the top down instructions to conform to governance, rather than governments responding to the will of its legally voting population.
Market forces are all that’s required to respond to man made climate change, if there is such a thing, not big government wasting taxpayers money on an unproven hypothesis.
That’s socialism. The powerful elite dictating to the population whilst spending money that’s not theirs recklessly.

Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2017 3:47 pm

@ Marty In 1954, Eisenhower made his famous domino speech concerning Indochina. We were in Indochina long before Kennedy. But given the US’s history and its constant warring with somebody, I think it makes no sense to argue about whether a Democratic or Republican president started a particular war or who finished it. But I do think that when it comes to the actual spending for Defense, Republicans spend far more than Democrats. Trump just recently announced that we need to spend lots of money to upgrade our military because Obama hadn’t been spending enough.

Reply to  HotScot
July 22, 2017 3:49 pm

@ Hotscot. I made a long post that is not showing. Hopefully it is not lost and is in moderation. If not I will try to reproduce.

Reply to  HotScot
July 23, 2017 8:41 am

“Your idea of what socialism is is garbage.”
No davidgmills, that would be your idea of Socialism.
Socialism is the cult that replaced ‘God(s)’ with ‘The State’, and during the twentieth century killed between 100,000,000 and 200,000,000 of its own citizens – more than any theologically based religion in the last millennium – as road humps on its journey to the ‘Glorious Socialist Workers’ Paradise’.
It is based on the ‘Three Pillars of Socialism’, Greed, Sloth and Envy and its role models are the likes of Vladimir Illich Lenin, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot.
It is only sustainable until it has blown through as much ‘Other Peoples’ Money and Wealth’ as it can get its hands on, after which it collapses with massive humanitarian consequences.
Its supporters are either massively deluded out flat out evil and massively manipulative.

Reply to  Dave Marney
July 21, 2017 6:28 am

I tend to agree Dave, sounds like a ‘groupthink’ network group….sorta like WUWT. We can disagree with tax payer funded EPA over-reach but chastising/admonishing private citizens for finding a job, in their field, regardless of their GAIA philosophy is a little harsh.

Reply to  Duncan
July 21, 2017 7:28 am

Except that they have put their GAIA above all other things without regard to how it affects ordinary people. So forgive me if I don’t have any sympathy at all for their job loss. Millions of others have lost their jobs in some locations due to skyrocketing energy costs, and these people not only didn’t care, they applauded.

Reply to  Duncan
July 21, 2017 7:58 am

Finding a job yes…but…
…’Retired political activist seeks employment: Good track record with explosives. CV available from Guido Fawkes, C/O Tower of London., Great Britain.’

Reply to  Duncan
July 21, 2017 8:42 am

Greg I see, you are looking for an ‘eye-for-an-eye’. Like I said, a little harsh. I’ve seen the same argument put forth by the environmentalist.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Duncan
July 21, 2017 11:55 am

Maybe they can find work in the coal mines. 16 tons of carbon and watta ya get!

Reply to  Duncan
July 21, 2017 2:33 pm

I sure don’t cry a tear when our warmongers get kicked out of office or out of one of the 20 or so defense or intelligence agencies and can’t find a job. I hope they never find jobs. Unfortunately most find even higher paying jobs in the private sector.

Cliff Hilton
Reply to  Dave Marney
July 21, 2017 7:21 am

” I’d do exactly the same thing….”
David Marney
As a owner of a business, I don’t hire people who left companies due to “their support for a cause “. People get hired to perform a task. I fire employees who “band together “. Those are “clics”. Work rules and objectives are clearly stated and adhered to. No agendas, no causes, no religious or non-American activities while on the clock. There is only support for business activities.

Robert Ballard
Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 21, 2017 10:50 am

Cliff, You have cut to the bone here. I ran a company with strict conduct rules covering manner of dress, language, and other work related issues. Political buttons, advocacy, confrontational attitudes, and the like had many out the door in the first 30 days. My service teams were the highest paid and worker longevity was never a problem. The first item in the employment agreement read, “(the company) exists to provide a profit to the owners.”

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 21, 2017 3:45 pm

@ Robert. The inherent contradiction in capitalism is that the owners want profits and which means owners want to pay as little as possible to workers who produce the goods and services the owners want produced, which in turn means the workers themselves can’t afford the goods and services they produce for the owners of the businesses. And of course offshoring all the labor in the industrial sectors to other countries has left most of Americans with flat or declining wages since about 1976.
Capitalism has failed most Americans since that time and it is getting worse by the day. Along about 2030 robots and computers will be able to do nearly all jobs better than humans at far lest cost to the owners of business. What do we do then?
Maybe we need to come up with business entities where it is not all about the profit of the owners because we don’t have much time to figure this out.

Gunga Din
Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 21, 2017 3:50 pm

In the US, there have been a number of stories where an employee of a large company or a fast food chain refused to serve a unformed police officer.
Those employees should have been publicly fired on the spot. If the manager didn’t do it, they should have been fired.

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 8:00 am

David: Capitalism has created the greatest economic engine in history: the USA. Socialist policies over the last fifty years threaten its survival.

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 8:30 am

Hey davidgmills, Presidente Maduro called, he wants you to come back home.

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 8:48 am

Davidgmills writes:

“Maybe we need to come up with business entities where it is not all about the profit of the owners because we don’t have much time to figure this out.”

Please migrate to Venezuela, immediately, and live your stupid dream in Socialist heaven. If you end up not liking it, come back and apologize.

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 4:05 pm

@ TexasJimBrock. Past history does not necessarily indicate future performance. My point is that capitalism has worked to a certain extent as long as owners paid their workers a liveable wage enough so that workers could have an adequate living.
I don’t know what you call socialist policies. The first thing about capitalism in America is that it’s major business model is the for-profit corporation. The founding fathers were, who were certainly capitalists, were quite wary of the for-profit corporation. The dumped the tea of the East India Tea Company in the Boston harbor. After that they continued to oppose corporations and for the longest time in the US, corporate charters were only good for 20 years. At the end of 20 years, legislatures got to vote as to whether the corporations got to have their charters renewed. If the legislatures felt the corporation had not benefited enough of the population, charters died.
People today complain about excessive regulation. Well losing a corporate charter is far more excessive than any regulation we have today. Eventually in our history, corporate charters became perpetual, once corporations got enough influence in legislatures. Is this your idea of socialism? That there is too much regulation when at one time legislatures could revoke corporate charters?
Corporate charters are issued by a state government and as such they are creatures of the state. Does that make them socialistic? And why do people incorporate? To avoid personal responsibility. There is no other reason to incorporate other than to avoid personal responsibility by the owners, directors and management of the corporation. Do I need to repeat that?
So if a corporation is a creature of the state and the state bestows vast amounts of benefit on the people who incorporate in the form of limited liability, when will people understand that the state should have every right to regulate corporate activity.
Maybe everybody needs to go to law school and take a corporations class. But this idea of too much regulation is utter legal garbage.

Reply to  davidgmills
July 22, 2017 7:27 pm

True in theory. However, self-dealing by the regulators is the norm, as is regulatory capture, where the regulations are used to arrange an advantage for one, or a cartel, of those regulated. “Regulation” is like all government activities, something that should be viewed with suspicion.

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 4:13 pm

@ Mickey Reno. Well I hope your kids can out compete a robot and computers in 2030. That is my point. Nice try with the Venezuela BS. Totally non-responsive to the point I made. Do you want to address how we are going to have a jobless economy in 2030 or do you want to just evade the issue?

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 4:32 pm

. I have a long response in moderation.

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 4:54 pm

@ wws — Watson doesn’t care a bit whether your kids and grandkids have jobs.
I spent 35 years litigating which makes me a part of the third branch of government people here seem to disrespect and despise unless it is putting people in prison. I think I have earned my stay, and I think I understand how this government of ours is supposed to work far better than most of my detractors.
Every one of my white ancestors has been here since before 1820 but I don’t hate my fellow Americans who haven’t been as fortunate as I or as lucky as I.
Maybe you if can’t quit hating your fellow Americans who are less fortunate than you, you should move to a country with a government existing only of police and a military.

Mickey Reno
Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 22, 2017 7:32 pm

Davidgmills, my comment WAS responsive to your anti-capitalist BS. You said “we” need to come up with a better way. This implies that you think there’s a better way than freedom and self interest, and the only other way this can be expressed is in a command economy. Or maybe you’re a Harry Potter style wizard, and you can think up some magic spell. Short of that, the centrally controlled command economy will inevitably fall, because the signals about what people want and how much they’re willing to pay are lost. That’s why there’s no toilet paper in Venezuela. And Venezuela is just the latest in a long chain of failed states where socialists took over thinking they knew exactly what “everyone” needs better than do the individuals themselves. How many times does this have to happen before you will learn?
Now, maybe you don’t consider yourself a socialist. I can’t help you there. Given the state of modern public education, you may not even know it. But either we are free to create and run our businesses and make our profits, or we’re not, in which case some committee of putzes like you and Barack Obama and Naomi Oreskes and Richard Reich are controlling things. Thank God for Trump, as ridiculous as he is. He doesn’t get us far enough out of the swamp for my tastes, but at least he’s trying.
As for your silly notions about a robot driven economy where all jobs are gone, I’d say you’re assuming too much. I agree that automation and robots and $15 /hr. minimum wage regulations are going to push business owners to look for even more ways to put machines to work to avoid hiring lazy, entitled millennials. But free associations and idea creators will always be looking for new ways to create wealth. Investors will always want to have a piece of the good ideas and help them come to fruition. And profits will continue to be the incentive for wealth creation for a long, long time to come. And with wealth creation comes jobs, so long as they add value.

Reply to  Cliff Hilton
July 23, 2017 8:48 am

“The inherent contradiction in capitalism…”
Whereas the inherent contradiction in Socialism is that it stands on the Three Pillars of Greed, Sloth and Envy and is only sustainable until it runs out of Other Peoples’ Money.
As a US citizen, you have no experience of Socialism, it is purely an intellectual concept to you.
On this side of the Pond, we have seen its effects, the hundreds of millions of deaths it is responsible for, and the horrific effects it has had on our industry.
Socialism is evil.

Reply to  catweazle666
July 23, 2017 1:32 pm

As an American I can assure you, cat, that socialism is not some ephemeral intellectual concept to all of us. I personally have witnessed the results of socialism. Seen it with my own eyes, smelled it with my own nose and helped bury their remains with my own hands. Many Americans have had the same experiences I have and smashing the lies and bullsh*t of media, government and academia is a task we do not shrink from.

Reply to  2hotel9
July 23, 2017 4:16 pm

“As an American I can assure you, cat, that socialism is not some ephemeral intellectual concept to all of us.”
Good to hear that, 2h9.
Semper fi!

Reply to  Dave Marney
July 21, 2017 8:44 am

I’m with you Dave. Last I checked, “free association” was still covered by the Constitution. Let them network and find jobs where they can. At least in the private sector, they’ll rise or fall on their own merits, rather than living in the protected terrarium of public employ.

Dave Fair
Reply to  ripshin
July 21, 2017 11:01 am

Actually, rip, Loopy Left money-men massively fund green NGOs. Activists have been going back and forth between them and the government all along. Green NGOs have unfettered access to government decision making, while you and I are ignored.

The Iconoclast
July 21, 2017 5:25 am

The posted link is no bueno. It’s Try searching for a job “Search Job – Coming Soon!”. Sure they may try to band together to help each other and that’s fine but I’ll wager there’ll be far fewer comfortable sinecures to slip into than people departing the EPA.

Gary Pearse
Reply to  The Iconoclast
July 21, 2017 8:02 am

This group singularly lacks experience in getting a real job. They’d be better off going to existing job web. They better have other skills because jobs in their line (like pony express riders) are shrinking fast. Take a plumbers course or move to California – they would have a year or two before it collapses, too.

Ralph Knapp
July 21, 2017 5:26 am

The left just doesn’t respect democracy unless they’re the winners. They don’t won’t to oppose, they want to overthrow
the duly elected government that beat them. It seems democracy is valid only if the left wins.

July 21, 2017 5:27 am

Nice “so what” article. It’s a free country folks. Are we going to worry about fired bureaucrats trying to sell themselves?
Who decides what gets published here?

Clay Sanborn
Reply to  scraft1
July 21, 2017 5:57 am

“It’s a free country folks”. Exactly, and WUWT can post about the activist bureaucrats, because it’s a free country. I like that this article was posted – free to say that.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  scraft1
July 21, 2017 7:30 am

You asked, “Who decides what gets published here?” The answer is, obviously, not you!

Reply to  scraft1
July 21, 2017 4:15 pm

scraft1 the answer to your question is ”not ignorant hicks who believe a frigid atmospheric bath is a giant sky heater.”

Reply to  High_Octane_Paine
July 22, 2017 5:32 am

HO Paine. Say what? Speak English please
You calling me an ignorant hick? Them’s fightin’ words.

Reply to  scraft1
July 22, 2017 2:02 am

“Who decides what gets published here?”
I was wondering that too – you would think WUWT would exercise some quality control if they want to be taken seriously. It sure has brought out the uglies though!
I feel like Geoff Sherrington: “It feels at times that evolution has created a sub-species that does not think the way we do.” Geoff
That works both ways Geoff – I’m glad you guys are isolated here in your bizarre little WUWT ghetto.

July 21, 2017 5:32 am

Good luck with that, losers. It’s been tried before and failed miserably. You’ve lost your job so suck it up buttercup.

Reply to  Alex
July 21, 2017 6:55 am

They didn’t actually lose their jobs. Nobody was fired. What happened was, they decided they didn’t want to work for a government that wouldn’t give them the power anymore, so they are going someplace where they do have power. At the same time, pretending that they were forced out.

Reply to  Hivemind
July 21, 2017 8:00 am

More like their job descriptions were changed to something they found unacceptable like ‘disseminating facts’

Constructive dismissal.

July 21, 2017 5:39 am

Worst part is these leeches will ride out a fat unemployment claim before moving on to do more damage to America and the rest of the world. Many of them will be contesting their “release” from government employment, sucking up more of our tax dollars in the process.

July 21, 2017 5:50 am

I love the chain from the sling point! That is just priceless.

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  2hotel9
July 21, 2017 6:51 am

Notice the hand on the shoulder too, looks like she really wasn’t expecting that much kick

Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
July 21, 2017 5:37 pm

I have taught no few young women to shoot, and those first 5-6 rds they do tend to flinch. Then you see that moment, the “wow, its not really that bad” moment and they really get into it. Love those moments. Ranks right up there with seeing the realization a new shooter gets when they figure out they can hit that steel gong at 500 meters, and then start pumping rds into it like they were standing there banging it with a hammer.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  2hotel9
July 21, 2017 7:34 am

Chain keeps it from ‘rockin and rollin.’ Full-auto has a habit of lifting the barrel.

Reply to  Clyde Spencer
July 21, 2017 5:41 pm

Only for those who don’t know how to do it!

Geoff Sherrington
July 21, 2017 5:53 am

One of the least rewarding functions of my career was the ongoing effort to combat bureaucratic interference, the lead in the saddle problem. Time after time an edict would appear out of nowhere, causing incommensurate hours to fight it back into its box. After I retired, this effort to combat seemed to lapse in Aust and so now we have much more of the bad stuff. It does not matter too much if these scheming ignorant people are in an EPA or outside it doing their subversion. It still has to be fought. I was never able to get close enough to any of these rodents to work out what motivated them, but suggest that you need to get a handle on motivation if you are going to neutralise them. It feels at times that evolution has created a sub-species that does not think the way we do. Geoff

Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 21, 2017 6:26 am

evolution has created a sub-species
Facilitators and gatekeepers. One group gets power from what they create. The other by extracting tribute in return for letting the facilitators proceed.

Reply to  ferdberple
July 21, 2017 8:26 am

Telephone sanitisers, marketing executives and hairdressers.

Sceptical Sam
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 21, 2017 7:42 am

The motivation of the rodents.
Their motivation, in my experience, is very clear (although they think they’ve masked it). it’s the subversion of the democratic, free-market, capitalist way of life that has underpinned the remarkable advances of the free world.
The underlying desire is power. Unaccountable power. Unaccountable power in their hands.
These people are fanatics. Totalitarians. There can be no way other than their way.
It’s straight out of the subversives play book. They are ideological totalitarians. Green left.
They don’t have any regard for you, me or anybody else. Not even their own. And, certainly not the environment.
Remember Stalin had Lenin poisoned. It’s a question of who will dominate whom. Lenin’s “Who Whom” question encapsulates the struggle.

john harmsworth
Reply to  Sceptical Sam
July 21, 2017 12:07 pm

And the universities crank out this bogus intellectual product by the millions! That is the very root of the problem. There is no inherent respect for the tradition of Western intellectual origins and the rigorous and factual examination of issues. Everything is contaminated by “:feelings”. There could be an argument for this but the reality is that there is no scale of value for feelings so we have a situation where the sensitivity of a few outweighs the clear needs of the many. Emotional blackmail writ large!

Pat Frank
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 21, 2017 9:19 am

It’s the individualists vs. the obligate communalists, Geoff.
The Enlightenment was a speciation event; humans who think as individuals emerged from the communalist parent species.
The two species have opposing ways of organizing themselves and have engaged in a mortal contest ever since.

Wayne Delbeke
Reply to  Geoff Sherrington
July 21, 2017 10:13 am

A bureaucrat once told me quite openly in an inquiry that the sole purpose of a rule change about a certain kind of development was to “reduce the exorbitant profits” that the department thought the proponents of the development would make. No other reason whatsoever. After a long discussion of costs and returns and the economics and lack of any other reason for the rule, the rule was rescinded. Still many of the bureaucrats, though placated, still believed profit was a bad thing so their rule had been reasonable.
I once had to opportunity to audit the efficiency of a couple of government agencies. No wonder they thought there must be exorbitant profits – at their level of productivity, there would be no profit at all, ever.
It was a great insight into the thinking of many people in government with their huge perks who have no idea how hard some folks work to earn a living outside the government womb.

July 21, 2017 6:06 am

Bad loosers … Why can’t they understand that bad behaviour finaly will be punished, one way or another?

Reply to  SasjaL
July 22, 2017 8:33 am

Because in Obama’s world, it was rewarded.

John Bell
July 21, 2017 6:16 am

When I was working on the hydraulic hybrid UPS truck for the EPA in Ann Arbor, Michigan I noticed a lot of SUVs in their parking lot, typical leftist hypocrites.

Mark from the Midwest
Reply to  John Bell
July 21, 2017 6:49 am

No surprise, most everyone in AA has “reasons” that the rules don’t apply to “them.” Look at how much they love Harbaugh’s absolute lack of political correctness, simply because he wins.

July 21, 2017 6:20 am

The exodus at the EPA should be included in the case to overthrow the CO2 endangerment finding. Such findings are required to be the products of sound, scientific reasoning, and not driven by political activism. The EPA should do its job no matter who sits in the White House or congress. Elections should have very little impact on the science based function of the EPA. The reaction we are seeing from the staffers is solid evidence that they are political activists and not scientists. Consequently, their ‘science’ during the Obama years is called into question, and needs to be reexamined by capable scientists.

George Tetley
July 21, 2017 6:32 am

If I new where my money was being spent, it would have never left my pocket !!!!!

Mark from the Midwest
July 21, 2017 6:32 am

Q: What’s 1000 EPA staffers at the bottom of Lake Superior?
A: A start.
OK, it’s a bad old lawyer joke, but I couldn’t resist

South River Independent
Reply to  Mark from the Midwest
July 21, 2017 8:10 am

So 1000 EPA staffers = 5000 Lawyers?

Reply to  South River Independent
July 21, 2017 9:00 am

Why do you bury lawyers/EPA staffers 12 feet deep? Because deep down they are good people./s

Reply to  South River Independent
July 21, 2017 11:36 pm

You gotta bury ’em extra deep, because Hell keeps trying to send them back.

Reply to  South River Independent
July 22, 2017 11:07 am

And always bury them face down so they can’t dig out..

chris moffatt
July 21, 2017 6:56 am

Let us hope that their files will be flagged as “ineligible for rehire”. But I’m betting most will just weasel into some other government job somewhere. People like these can’t be expected to work for a living (nor to be able to work).

July 21, 2017 7:45 am

Beyond parody. As this is the impression that people regulated by various Federal agencies have of the employees of some agencies, confirmation that the staff are humorless zealots for their cause is almost making me doubt the reality of the source.
I do believe the source is real, though, and this is why the EPA or certain other agencies in Justice and other parts of the Federal government should be “reorganized”, I.e. eliminating most of the current staff and transferring the useful parts to a different agency.

Pamela Gray
July 21, 2017 7:47 am

I am sorry, but having shot an automatic, this photo is awful, and leaves one instead with the impression that it is a nonsensical attempt to simply titilate male viewers who already have less than honorable thoughts and habits related to female gun experience and ownership.

Reply to  Pamela Gray
July 21, 2017 5:43 pm

I love teaching women to shoot. By and large they turn out to be excellent marksmen. And yea, I have seen rednecks doing similarly stupid crap.

July 21, 2017 7:48 am
Gary Pearse
July 21, 2017 7:50 am

Stories like this must be publically documented and appropriate legal responses meted out for each department. The whole would form an indictment for an entire radicalist, feloneous previous administration. And if justified, ‘lock her up’, too.
An investigative team looking into the secretaries and administrators of all the departments of the previous administration, would be the best way to dwarf the bogus Russian story. These people were appointed and hired to facilitate the most subversive international governance agenda ever known. The findings would be a bombshell. How could this be done? Are their Fed employees who would come forward?

Ernest Bush
Reply to  Gary Pearse
July 22, 2017 8:14 am

There will be no dwarfing of the Russian story for two reasons: the hatred of Trump, the outsider, is too deep and, living in their own bubble world, the media and the Democrats they give orders to think we live in that world, also. They really do think they are convincing us by publishing false allegations of criminal behavior on the part of Trump and his administration to dump our support.
What they can’t ever accept is that most of us Trump voters are “Never Progressivists”. We may not like some of Trump’s bumps and wrinkles, but Hillary would have had us throwing up. I have gone from disgust at mainstream media to utter hatred of it during the last six months. I no longer watch the newscasts of any of them, including Fox. The exception is when Fox carries Trump’s speeches live.
To me the media and the fired Greenies they control have become irrelevant.

Pamela Gray
July 21, 2017 7:50 am

I agree with others here that the post is a good example of thought not imbued with what is and is not important enough to editorialize. I want my 5 minutes back.

Bruce Cobb
July 21, 2017 8:17 am

They get to claim victim/martyr status, and any potential employer gets to virtue signal to their heart’s content if they hire them. Win-win.

South River Independent
July 21, 2017 8:49 am

I think my corollary to Jerry Pournelle’s Iron Law of Bureacracies applies here. The Iron Law says every buracracy has two groups, one that supports the goals of the organization, and one that supports the organization. Over time, the second group gains control.
My corollary is that the controlling group distorts the organizational goals, replacing them with their own personal goals. This is only one problem with government agencies, but probably the biggest problem.

john harmsworth
Reply to  South River Independent
July 21, 2017 12:16 pm

So the only option is a regular dismemberment and reallocation of resources combined with a newer, narrower focus?

South River Independent
Reply to  john harmsworth
July 22, 2017 9:58 am

That is one approach. The composition of almost every military organization is continuously changing, from the top to the bottom, as personnel rotate in and out. Shore-based agencies and activities usually have a civilian component that is more stable and can be an issue.
Another issue is the “perceived customer” that the agency thinks it is “serving.” The customer is always right. Who is the EPA serving? Who is the Department of Education sering? I would guess special interest groups. Military organizations usually serve other military special interests. They all survive by satisfying the needs of their customers.

Dave Fair
Reply to  South River Independent
July 22, 2017 10:54 am

SRI, I resigned from the Federal government while at the management level because the ONLY determination of one’s value was the ability to make one’s boss look good. And they were uniformly worthless.

Reply to  South River Independent
July 22, 2017 3:05 pm

SRI- “. . . percieved customers by bureaucrats . . . ” .
Bureaucrats never have to depend upon their product or their service for their profit or paycheck. Whether or not they do a good job, mediocre job, or no job at all, the bowels of government are going to keep the dollars and bennies coming to these useful idiots. They do not and cannot function in the real world where someone can look up from a desk—or walk into your office—and fire you for being lazy, stealing, incompetent. Firing a bureaucrat? Maybe if he/she shot someone at work. Maybe. Otherwise, you have to eliminate their job.
It’s the age-old question of who will stay up all night with a sick cow— the bureaucrat or the cow’s owner? It’s why Russia’s crops (tomatoes, perishables, etc) often lay rotting in their fields at harvest time because the central government couldn’t coordinate the machinery needed for its short window of harvest, transportation to its processing facilities, or distribution for consumption to people who had the ‘right amount of chits or money’ to obtain it . . . why it always was a good idea to pack a couple roles of TP if you had occasion to travel in Russia last century.
Both China and Russia had famines during the 20th century.
Banker-sponsored Bolshevik/communist/socialist/progressive/left governments fail people. But the bankers love them. Because there are fewer people who need to be bribed for control of the nation and its resources. Today’s bankers’—descendants of the Bolshevik sponsors— own the UN and the 150 central banks (like the Fed) in the world’s strategic nations. The bankers control these nations with their central banks by printing paper money for them for the cost of paper, ink, and press-time, then selling it to them at face value (or by making a data entry) and requiring those nations to put up their government-owned/controlled assets as collateral. These assets are the bankers’ end game—to own/control it all—earth’s gold, silver, minerals, gas oil, water, land, energy, industry, jobs, people, and hope.
Once they established control of the money with their central banks, they then originated the world government meme whose bureaucracy was/is to be headquartered at their UN. Greenhouse gases, global warming, climate change, Agenda 21/30/50—the environment—is/was the facade they’ve attempted to use to mask their socialist intentions for their world government with themselves still in charge behind the curtain. The carbon tax that Obama directed the EPA to implement when congress refused was/is to be used to fund the one world government bureaucracy at the UN.
These bankers have cornered the world’s money markets and swapped paper for hard assets and sit in the cat bird seat, IMO. They used all sorts of “toxic” (worthless) paper backed with no assets brought about by “moral hazard” (theft, greed, fraud, lies)—derivatives, CDS’s, LBO’s, etc.—$600 trillion fictitious dollars’ worth by one estimate. Over a quadrillion by the Bank of International Settlements’ (BIS) estimate.
The world’s GDP is only around $78 trillion.
All the money in the world comes short of $600 trillion.
And there’s 1.2 quadrillion invested derivatives alone.
As an aside, billionaires like Soros, Gates, Buffet demur to these bankers, who deal in trillions.
Non-thinkers—bureaucrats, brainwashed students by uninformed teachers, socialist professors, bribed politicians/government officials, socialist shills planted within government—are their foot soldiers.
And what are euphemistically known as useful idiots will no longer be useful if the bankers’ socialist/communist one world government becomes reality. Nor will anyone else if the technoghouls succeed in robotimizing everything/everyone, including genes in tagged humans for money to fulfill the future visions of a handful of bankers without heart, soul, or conscience.
. .

July 21, 2017 9:07 am

Reminds me a bit of when the air traffic controllers went out on strike during the Reagan administration and were ordered back to work and many refused… they were fired. They sat on useless “picket lines” in some cases for years, thinking they would get their jobs back rather than moving on.

July 21, 2017 9:08 am

Having lost their comfortable and non strenuous seat on the taxpayer funded Gravey Train….it will be interesting to see how these EPA passengers survive in the harsh REAL world.

Science or Fiction
July 21, 2017 9:27 am

I think that EPA employees should do like most skeptics – work on their own – for free.

July 21, 2017 10:59 am

Agreed. When public civil servants start serving something else instead, the latter can also pay their salary. Based on the evidence by some EPA officials so far, the something else seems to be thin air.

July 21, 2017 12:15 pm

There is a great opportunity right now in creating a video game with a whack-a-mole format to chase down the former EPA rats and moles around the board game or screen.

Reply to  Resourceguy
July 21, 2017 1:11 pm

Something with a green king pig, a lab and some angry birds?

john harmsworth
July 21, 2017 12:19 pm

How can I post a job on their site? I need a sludge sucker. I would pay them what they are worth except for the minimum wage laws.

Joel Snider
July 21, 2017 12:35 pm

‘Hire a climate change hero.’
Small window into the warmist self-image.
Or perhaps, ‘open garage door’ would be a better description.

July 21, 2017 1:23 pm

From the article: “The formation of so-called ‘resistance’ groups began on Day One following the presidential election. Groups such as AltBLM, AltNPS and others, are composed of both former and current bureaucrats who have come to feel entitled to taxpayer-funded jobs in which they perform political advocacy.”
I would not worry too much about fired EPA staffers. What I would worry about are EPA staffers who are still working in the EPA and who would get together with other activists to plan how to undermine Trump’s actions from inside the EPA. That sounds like what they are doing. Trump needs to make a list and check it twice.

Gunga Din
July 21, 2017 3:33 pm

Using the EPA logo might be an issue. Aside from that, if they are no EPA employees, sure, they’re free to use their past employment in an online resume. “I pretended to use science to promote political crap. Hire me!”
(Looking forward the day when we a similar site for ex-IRS employees, with Lois Lerner as its founder.)

July 21, 2017 4:06 pm

I briefly looked at the links, and haven’t seen anything to support that the EPA employees were fired. Looks like they’re “voluntarily jumping ship” (of course this could be in lieu of being fired).

July 21, 2017 4:31 pm

Hopefully they will be replaced by people who actually understand the science and math and can correct the mistakes they made. Two of the mistakes are identified in

July 21, 2017 6:36 pm

Let us hope that some of these drones find productive work.

Reply to  gallopingcamel
July 22, 2017 4:36 am

Starpukes, Holedfoods and Panarid Breads can only hire so many useless idiots so most of them will be out on the street, once their unemployment runs out.

Dr. Strangelove
July 21, 2017 7:04 pm

EPA staffers, you’re fired! Rest in peacecomment image

Pamela Gray
Reply to  Dr. Strangelove
July 22, 2017 10:13 am

Really? Can you not leave clearly suggestive images to the greenies?

Mark Johnson
July 22, 2017 12:11 am

To a very significant extent, and this is beyond the grasp of many conservatives, control of government is not just an opportunity to implement policy but IT IS THE MEAL TICKET for many on the Left. Without explicit or at least implicit support from government, a large part of the Left would be jobless.
For my part, I will never think that I will be able to change the views of these people, but at least I will take comfort in the knowledge that I am no longer paying their salary.
The Left is absolutely beside themselves over the appointment of Administrator Pruitt. And that means that he was EXACTLY the person that needed to be appointed.

Geoff Sherrington
July 22, 2017 7:21 am

There are points in common with private sector employees who get a few friends together jump ship and form startups based on the most exciting, most highly profitable pieces of their past work.
There is a major point of difference with this EPA story. This is, there is no exciting work to be flogged from the EPA. If you ran off with the highly profitable part you would soon be in jail for extortion and similar crimes.

Hocus Locus
July 22, 2017 10:27 am

OOPS on the river water… fixed it

July 23, 2017 11:57 pm

Two biggest jokes at EPA. “science” and “transparency”. Haha that cracks me up everytime!

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