Guest essay by Eric Worrall
Scientists have just discovered a 1.8 million square kilometre lake semi-molten carbonate (CO2) compounds under our feet – but still think the contribution of volcanoes to the annual CO2 emission budget is insignificant compared to human emissions.
Scientists uncover huge reservoir of melting carbon under Western United States
February 13, 2017
New research published in Earth and Planetary Science Letters describes how scientists have used the world’s largest array of seismic sensors to map a deep-Earth area of melting carbon covering 1.8 million square kilometres. Situated under the Western US, 350km beneath the Earth’s surface, the discovered melting region challenges accepted understanding of how much carbon the Earth contains – much more than previously understood.
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“It would be impossible for us to drill far enough down to physically ‘see’ the Earth’s mantle, so using this massive group of sensors we have to paint a picture of it using mathematical equations to interpret what is beneath us,” said Dr Sash Hier-Majumder of Royal Holloway.
He continued, “Under the western US is a huge underground partially-molten reservoir of liquid carbonate. It is a result of one of the tectonic plates of the Pacific Ocean forced underneath the western USA, undergoing partial melting thanks to gasses like CO2 and H2O contained in the minerals dissolved in it.”
As a result of this study, scientists now understand the amount of CO2 in the Earth’s upper mantle may be up to 100 trillion metric tons. In comparison, the US Environmental Protection Agency estimates the global carbon emission in 2011 was nearly 10 billion metric tons – a tiny amount in comparison. The deep carbon reservoir discovered by Dr. Hier-Majumder will eventually make its way to the surface through volcanic eruptions, and contribute to climate change albeit very slowly.
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Read more: https://phys.org/news/2017-02-scientists-uncover-huge-reservoir-carbon.html
The abstract of the study;
Pervasive upper mantle melting beneath the western US
We report from converted seismic waves, a pervasive seismically anomalous layer above the transition zone beneath the western US. The layer, characterized by an average shear wave speed reduction of 1.6%, spans over an area of ∼1.8×106 km2 with thicknesses varying between 25 and 70 km. The location of the layer correlates with the present location of a segment of the Farallon plate. This spatial correlation and the sharp seismic signal atop of the layer indicate that the layer is caused by compositional heterogeneity. Analysis of the seismic signature reveals that the compositional heterogeneity can be ascribed to a small volume of partial melt (0.5 ± 0.2 vol% on average). This article presents the first high resolution map of the melt present within the layer. Despite spatial variations in temperature, the calculated melt volume fraction correlates strongly with the amplitude of P–S conversion throughout the region. Comparing the values of temperature calculated from the seismic signal with available petrological constraints, we infer that melting in the layer is caused by release of volatiles from the subducted Farallon slab. This partially molten zone beneath the western US can sequester at least 1.2×1017 kg of volatiles, and can act as a large regional reservoir of volatile species such as H or C.
Read more: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0012821X16307543
What do scientists have to say about volcanic degassing? Most scientists don’t seem to think geological emissions are large, compared to anthropogenic emissions, but they tend to express a lot of uncertainty about estimates of geological emissions.
For example, Mörner and Etiope (2002);
Carbon degassing from the lithosphere
Nils-Axel Mörner, Giuseppe Etiopeb,
So far, the role of present-day Earth degassing in global C budget and climate effects has been focused to volcanic emissions. The non-volcanic escape of CO2–CH4 from the upper mantle, from carbonate bearing rocks in the crust, from hydrocarbon accumulations and from surface deposits and processes is here discussed in detail. An inventory of recent available data is presented. For the first time, a so large quantity of data is considered altogether showing clearly that the geological flux of carbon was previously significantly underestimated. Several lines of evidence show that non-volcanic C fluxes in «colder» environments are much greater than generally assumed. Local and regional data suggest that metamorphic decarbonation, hydrocarbon leakage and mud volcanoes could be significant CO2–CH4 sources at global scale. Moreover, extensive surface gas-geochemical observations, including soil–atmosphere flux investigations, open the possibility that ecosystems controlled by biogenic activity (soil, permafrost, seawater) can host important components of endogenous C gas (geogas), even in the absence of surface gas manifestations. This would imply the existence of a geological diffuse, background emission over large areas of our planet. New theories concerning the occurrence of pervasive geogas and lithospheric processes of C-gas production («lithospheric loss in rigidity») can be taken as novel reference and rationale for re-evaluating geological sources of CO2 and CH4, and an important endeavour and work prospect for the years to come.
Our survey shows that it is still very hard to arrive at a meaningful estimate of the lithospheric non-volcanic degassing into the atmosphere. Orders of 102–103 Mt CO2/year can be provisionally considered. Assuming as lower limit for a global subaerial volcanic degassing 300 Mt/year, the lithosphere may emit directly into the atmosphere at least 600 Mt CO2/year (about 10% of the C source due to deforestation and land-use exchange), an estimate we still consider conservative. It is likely that temporal variations of lithosphere degassing, at Quaternary and secular scale, may influence the atmospheric C budget. The present-day lithosphere degassing would seem higher than the value considered to balance at Ma time-scale the CO2 uptake due to silicate weathering.
Read more: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092181810200070X
There is a huge disparity between the amount of CO2 which is believed to be trapped a few hundred miles under our feet (1.2×1017 kg), vs the amount of CO2 scientists believe is emitted by volcanoes (300-600×109 kg / year).
Any free CO2 under the kind of pressure found in the Earth’s crust is likely to form a supercritical fluid – an strange, highly mobile form of CO2 which has characteristics of both a liquid and a gas.
I’m not saying Mörner and Etiope (2002) estimate is wrong, but it could be. Geologist Ian Plimer believes volcanic CO2 emissions are grossly underestimated, because vast numbers of submarine volcanoes are overlooked by studies which estimate emissions.
Volcanoes and CO2
Plimer has said that volcanic eruptions release more carbon dioxide (CO2) than human activity; in particular that submarine volcanoes emit large amounts of CO2 and that the influence of the gases from these volcanoes on the Earth’s climate is under-represented in climate models.[35][36][37] The United States Geological Survey has calculated that human emissions of CO2 are about 130 times larger than volcanic emissions, including submarine emissions.[38][39][40] The United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) stated that Plimer’s claim “has no factual basis.”[41] This was confirmed in a 2011 survey published in the Eos journal of the American Geophysical Union, which found that anthropogenic emissions of CO2 are 135 times larger than those from all volcanoes on Earth.[42] A 2015 study from The Earth Institute at Columbia University published in Geophysical Research Letters says activity from undersea volcanoes varies with tide, with greater activity at neap tide, and with more activity in ice ages with their lower sea levels. Dr. Maya Tolstoy, who conducted the study, says this might explain abrupt ends to ice ages.[43]
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Plimer#Volcanoes_and_CO2
I accept that humans contribute significantly to global atmospheric CO2 levels. But given the vast disparity between the estimated reservoir and estimated emissions, it is not difficult to see how the volcanic emission rate could fluctuate significantly over time, even in the absence of major eruptions, or how the “conservative” estimate of annual global geological CO2 emissions might be revised substantially upwards in the future.
Update (EW): h/t ATheoK Fixed a copy / paste error – 1.08×106 square kilometres, not 1.08×106 square kilometres
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So is it better or worse than we thought, that is the question?
Oh and how much tax to make it right?
James Bull
Look Eric, it worked.
The whole surface of this rock is floating on this stuff…and you didn’t know?
It’s turtles all the way down, Patrick…
It’s not under my feet. But you Americans are doomed.
Regarding: “But given the vast disparity between the estimated reservoir and estimated emissions,”: The reservoir is a quantity of CO2 that is stored underground, emissions is the rate at which they are escaping into the atmosphere. The disparity is in comparing the quantity of something in a tank to the rate at which the tank’s contents are being drained.
BTW, the reservoir that this article brought up is “Situated under the Western US, 350km beneath the Earth’s surface”, an order of magnitude deeper than the boundary between the crust and the mantle. Volcanic activity comes from much shallower depths near the boundary between the crust and the mantle.
Forrest, believe it or not, they already know.
As seaice and Griff are so kind to demonstrate. Repeatedly.
Ri-iiiggghhht, these clowns state definitively what exists 350 kilometers below the surface. Who could argue with them? Who has been there? Who will ever go there?
Please…
I like you attitude. Who’s been to the Sun? Who will ever go there? Who could argue with a black hole theoretic?
Carbonate (CO3) and CO2 are not the same thing. They should never be used interchangeably.
LOL, at least one is carbon.
Looks like the remains of the Farallon that has been subducting under NA for over 100 Ma. Things really calmed down as it fueled a series of ignimbrite outbreaks across Colorado, Utah, Nevada and Arizona some 40 – 25 Ma. There are a LOT of large caliber calderas littered across the SWUS. Cheers –
https://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/0958/report.pdf
http://www.sci-news.com/geology/science-supervolcanoes-utah-nevada-01612.html
Strange! Why is the MSM pushing this discovery as a “Lake of Molten Carbon” rather than molten carbonite?
Carbon is scary, carbonite isn’t.
Peta from Cumbria, The science is catching up to my findings. The CO2 read
in the farmers field is coming from the oxidized natural gas up welling from
deep in the earth.
My work was to dig through the topsoil and bio mass and check for hydrocarbons
before they were eaten by microbes, oxidized, and then measured as CO2
in our farmers topsoil.
The richness of upland topsoil, in the presence of adequate moisture, is directly
related to the amount of natural gas which up well through it.
The amount of up welling hydrocarbons is reflected by the variations of topsoil
from the very rich soil in Kansas and the Ukraine to the very poor soil
over areas where the shield is near the surface and blocks the up welling
gas such as in the very poor soil around Atlanta, Ga. The granite layer is at
or near the surface there.
The amount of CO2 which could be read at the soil surface varies as the soil
richness varies.
No one has any idea how much CO2 is contributed to the atmosphere by this
process.
The USEPA, in the past, has listed upland soil in the US as a 30Tg year sink
for methane, because methane is found in the topsoil. It is not a sink. The
natural gas, not methane, rises from below. When methane hits the atmosphere,
it rises.
The first OCO2 satelite readings shows CO2 as my findings suggest.
Hydrocarbons perk up all around the earth, but are not evenly distributed.
The fault lines are their path of least resistance, and the CO2 readings
reflect the oxidation of the hydrocarbons. The satellite readings indicate
that natural sources of CO@ur momisugly dwarf human emissions, But no one has
any real idea of the quantity of these sources.
I think the value of this is in pointing out how little we actually know of the carbon cycle. However, I do not believe volcanic activity significantly influences long term CO2 dynamics.
Atmospheric CO2 is set by the balance of the temperature dependent exchange of CO2 between sources and sinks.
Volcanic activity is not temperature dependent. Nor are human inputs. Neither of these sources can be the main drivers of atmospheric CO2 in the modern era.
Bartemis – the key word there is “long term”. The long term carbon cycle operates over millions of years.
The finding of CO2 in the topsoil is only related to farming in that farmers
tend to farm the richest land, which is an indication of the amount of natural
gas up welling through it. Soil carbon maps tend to indicate the amount of
up welling hydrocarbons.
The readings from the Scottish farmers field is one reason that I have stated
in the past that the ice core readings of CO2 are virtually useless. They do
not reflect the actual amount to CO2 that the plants have available for growth.
Ambient CO2 readings do add to the amount of CO2 available for plant
consumption, but topsoil in the areas beyond glacier coverage will have
a base amount regardless of the amount high in the atmosphere.
The ice coverage will restrict the ability of microbes to oxidize hydrocarbons,
so high atmosphere CO2 readings will fall, but plants above unfrozen topsoil
will thrive, and hydrocarbons perking up in the oceans will still be oxidized.
The problems I have with ice core readings is that they are very far form
the major sources of CO2 excepting volcanoes, and even farther when the
glaciers extend, and the ability of ice to capture CO2 gas in a meaningful way
is a theory, in my opinion,yet to be confirmed.
Fine. Now that we have a new perspective on how much more carbon there is on the planet, can we just forget about our “carbon footprints” and get on with the business of living?
If you go to the Smithsonian Natural History they have a video of the deep sea thermal vents and in the old video it states that CO2 and other gasses are coming out of the vents. In the text description of the hydro-thermal vents they don’t mention CO2. It is simply erased.
Science Daily report from January 5th 2005:-
Scientists Discover Liquid Carbon Dioxide ‘Champagne’ Bubbles At Hydrothermal Vent
So a good idea/plan would be to build a network of large diameter (8’?) ducts, the head end of each would be where there is a good(?) amount of CO2 gas being expelled, be it a cauldron, a geyser field, coal fired power plant, etc., all of which would route back to a building housing a large vacuum and tank array for temporary storage of the sucked-up CO2. Next to this building would be another building housing the Nano-spike Catalytic Converter (NaCatCon) equipment per the recent discovery at the ORNL. (See here: https://www.ornl.gov/news/nano-spike-catalysts-convert-carbon-dioxide-directly-ethanol )
OAK RIDGE, Tenn., Oct. 12, 2016—In a new twist to waste-to-fuel technology, scientists at the Department of Energy’s Oak Ridge National Laboratory have developed an electrochemical process that uses tiny spikes of carbon and copper to turn carbon dioxide, a greenhouse gas, into ethanol. Their finding, which involves nanofabrication and catalysis science, was serendipitous.
Be damned the Thorium! Be damned the wind! Be damned the sun! ETHANOL FOR ALL!!
Is there a reason the map in the article cited shows a blank USA, no indication of where this deposit lies?
https://phys.org/news/2017-02-scientists-uncover-huge-reservoir-carbon.html
Can anyone point to an actual map of the deposit?
I don’t eat organic foods, because they contain carbon; and they cost more than real foods, for no apparent benefit.
At the local Cupertino yuppie green 365 Organoenhanced foodage supplier, you can pay twice as much for carbon laden foods, and then if you go over to the other corner, you can buy every chemical poison from A to Z and add you own to flavor.
And they have at least 57 varieties of Omega threes and sixes that you can buy, which helps keep down the bait fish population of the oceans, so that the tuna don’t get too darn big and expensive.
It’s amazing what havoc is wreaked on the planet in the name of being green.
G
Penn and Teller did a skit about organic and non-organic foods, bananas I think it was. Non-organic bananas were preferred by almost all test candidates. I just buy local and in season.
What chance is there that the location of this feature is directly related to the location of the seismic observatories?
350 km is far inside the mantle. Further, as the North America plate overrides the Pacific plate, it forces it down. The Pacific plate is ocean crust, not abundant in sedimentary carbonate. So, where would this carbonate have originated.
I would rather think the seismic data have been wrongly interpreted.
donb,
The Pacific Plate is basaltic at the spreading centers, but acquires a layer of carbonates as it approaches the NA Plate. Also, rivers dump land sediments along the coast, which get dispersed farther out to sea by undersea landslides. Seismic studies have shown the sediments getting scraped off and folded as the plate goes down, but presumably some makes it down with the basaltic basement rock.