With record rainfalls in California, another Nye-Lie bites the dust

Bill Nye the Science Propaganda Guy just can’t seem to keep his foot out of his mouth. We’ve chronicled many of his blunders here, including his involvement in Al Gore’s “High School Science” experiment where the experiment was so flawed, that they had to fake the results in video post-production to make it believable. If Bill Nye was really about science, he would have caught the fact that the experiment could never work, and refused to participate. Instead, he did, and the video still exists today with Bill Nye’s voice attached to it. So much for credibility.

In 2014, Bill Nye said this while calling people who disagree with him names:

And in the case of the California drought, a recent study suggests that there is 95 percent confident that human-caused climate change tripled the chance of the development of a persistent high pressure system in the Northern Pacific Ocean, which is the cause of the California drought because it deflects precipitation away from the region.

Source: http://www.attn.com/stories/228/bill-nye-you-don%E2%80%99t-need-be-scientist-shut-down-climate-change-deniers

Bill wants it both ways. Just a couple of days ago, he said this:

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An article in The Daily Caller outlines his hypocrisy.

Thanks to (((The Dividist))) on Twitter, we have this handy comparison:

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UPDATE: About 20 minutes after this post was published, Nye Tweeted this:

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Update2: his linkage of CA drought and AGW go all the way back to 2012: (h/t Hifast)

Bill Nye ‘The Science Guy’ Links Drought with Global Warming

https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/bill-nye-science-guy-links-163016623.html

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F. Ross
January 12, 2017 10:35 am

In Russia is called Uilyam Nyet.

Steve Oregon
January 12, 2017 10:38 am

Looks to me like all of the West is in a likely cyclical return to the same kind of wet years of the 70s to the 90s.
And it’s not just the west coast. Inland upstream water basins are way up and feeding Lakes Powell and Mead in ways that may fill both as was the case in that earlier era.
As sure as the Texas drought ended so is the rest of the west coast drought.
https://www.wired.com/2015/05/texas-floods-big-ended-states-drought/
http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/article126087609.html
“When the snowpack is way above normal and the Sierra Nevada precipitation index is above ‘82-’83, it’s time,” he said. Northern California has received so much rain this year that the region is on pace to surpass the record rainfalls of 1982-83.
http://lakepowell.water-data.com/
Rivers feeding Lake Powell are running at 171.23% of the Jan 12th avg. Click for Details
http://lakemead.water-data.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Mead
Multiple wet years from the 1970s to the 1990s filled both lakes to capacity,[10][11] reaching a record high of 1225 feet in the summer of 1983.[11] In these decades prior to 2000, Glen Canyon Dam frequently released more than the required 8.23 million acre feet (10.15 km3) to Lake Mead each year, allowing Lake Mead to maintain a high water level despite releasing significantly more water than for which it is contracted.

January 12, 2017 10:49 am

So, the temperature should remain between 14.999 °C and 15.001°C with a permanent drizzle and everything else is catastrophic climate change? If I got this right now Bill, your problem may be solved by moving to Brussels.

Jeff B.
January 12, 2017 10:53 am

No coincidence that Nye rhymes with Lie.

Reply to  Jeff B.
January 12, 2017 1:57 pm

or bow … tie.

January 12, 2017 11:03 am

Mr. Nye, you don’t know for nothing about California floods. I know many whose lives were changed totally by the Christmas Flood of 1964 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_flood_of_1964 ), which came closely behind the Central California/Nevada Flood of January-February 1963 (https://pubs.usgs.gov/unnumbered/70039077/report.pdf ). In 1950 and 1955 Californians also suffered from ruinous floods (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floods_in_California#November_1950:_California_Flood).
For the past 7,000 years, the area of California primarily was in drought, and the past 100 years have been unusually wet. (http://www.salon.com/2014/02/19/it_could_last_decades_5_shocking_facts_about_californias_drought_partner/) This anomalous wet period influenced us to poorly manage our scarce and invaluable water resources, and with about 40 million Californians, most in the dry southern area, and the most productive agricultural infrastructure in the world (also mostly in the dry southern part), we are living in a Fool’s Paradise of seeming water abundance.
Fortunately we have able liberal leaders who have taken our taxes to the highest in the nation, our education system to the bottom, our unfunded public employee pension liabilities far past the unsustainable level, and our business climate to the lowest levels (driven down by our Quixotic climate change efforts) . Many can avoid California’s problems by leaving, and many have. Some of us have sufficient assets to remain comfortably, but the vast majority are stuck here and must endure the ever declining living standards wrought by our liberal leadership.
We have met the enemy, and we keep reelecting them.

Reply to  majormike1
January 12, 2017 11:20 am

I remember being at a campground in 1965 on the Rogue River near Merlin OR and seeing all the lines the locals had painted to show the high water mark. They were incredible.

Clyde Spencer
Reply to  majormike1
January 12, 2017 11:40 am

And then there were the January 1997 floods, driven by a La Nina Pineapple Express. While flooding was widespread throughout Northern California, probably the most notable example was in the Feather River Serpentine Canyon and immediately below. Warm rains melted snow on the surrounding peaks. The serpentinite is notoriously impervious, with little soil or vegetation on it. The river was already running high after days of rain. Then the heavy rain and melted snow ran into the river. One of the more interesting pictures I remember seeing was a telephone booth in the river-side town of Belden, buried almost to the top with gravel. A meteorologist I spoke with described it as a “maximum probable event.” The phone booth was tens of feet above the typical Summer water level. https://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/1999/0073/report.pdf
California is no stranger to droughts and floods. However, the modern generation of legislators are more interested in removing dams than building them.

ferdberple
January 12, 2017 11:09 am

there is 95 percent confident
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this figure is based on the assumption that climate is normally distributed. however, there is significant evidence that rainfall is not normally distributed. Rather it follows an inverse power-law (fractal distribution), as do many, many other events in nature.
The difference is that normally distributed time series have a constant variance and thus a constant standard deviation. This means that over time, extreme events do not become more likely.
However, in a fractal distribution, the variance is not constant. This makes “black-swan” (extreme events) much more likely.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurst_exponent
Studies involving the Hurst exponent were originally developed in hydrology for the practical matter of determining optimum dam sizing for the Nile river’s volatile rain and drought conditions that had been observed over a long period of time.[1][2] The name “Hurst exponent”, or “Hurst coefficient”, derives from Harold Edwin Hurst (1880–1978), who was the lead researcher in these studies; the use of the standard notation H for the coefficient relates to his name also.

January 12, 2017 11:14 am

YOu have to excuse him. Those on the left really are not bright enough to understand that the Internet is forever, and so is their demonstrating their ignorance. They have the memory of gold fish, so what they said yesterday cannot be used against them today. They do not remember

January 12, 2017 11:27 am

So far the most incredible stat I’ve heard since this epic two weeks of precipitation is that the San Luis Reservoir (near Los Banos and the Gilroy cutoff) is up 140 feet since last August.
That is just incredible.
Lifelong Californians such as myself understand the patterns of drought (if you think the recent one was bad, check out 1975-77) and deluge we experience.
You’d think Nye would have a clue on what he speaks.

January 12, 2017 11:34 am

Those of us of a certain age remember when then wasn’t any of this horrible climate change. The weather every day was always the same as it was on the same day the previous year in the same area. Living in Colusa, 50 miles south of where Anthony now resides, the high was always 94 and the low 61 on July 4 back in the 1950s. That was very convenient, except for leap years when you had to go back four years to find out what the weather was going to be.
Then the climate started changing, and it has been quite stressful. Fortunately I’ve found a good therapist who is helping me to cope. However I still wish it would go back to the way it was in the good old days. I’m not going to be around that much longer, but what about the billions of children who are all going to die in the climate Armageddon?

Caligula Jones
January 12, 2017 12:19 pm

Do you ever wonder if Bill Nye has a remnant of engineer in him that tries to tell his media personality to shut up?

Reply to  Caligula Jones
January 12, 2017 1:45 pm

Foot in mouth.
“Bill Nye the Subsidence Guy”?

phil brisley
Reply to  Caligula Jones
January 12, 2017 1:50 pm

Not to defend him, I will say Nye is recognized (at least in Ontario) as an authority concerning AGW.
Last fall Steve Pakon had him on “The Agenda” and asked him about the evidence for man-made global warming. Nye explained the current “rate” of warming was unprecedented.
To my surprise Nye had no clue, or just plain ignored the fact the proxy temperature reconstructions completely lack the decadal resolution required for a valid comparison with the instrumental record. Pakon was silent.
Nye was embarrassing. What’s up with Pakon?

jvcstone
Reply to  phil brisley
January 12, 2017 4:51 pm

for some, if it hasn’t happened within their (short) memory, it is unprecedented

Caligula Jones
Reply to  phil brisley
January 13, 2017 7:45 am

Paikin , actually.
Generally, he does go out on a limb to stand up for guests that others want to actually ban:
http://tvo.org/blog/current-affairs/kathy-shaidle
So there’s that.

MarkW
Reply to  phil brisley
January 13, 2017 8:59 am

When asked what the perfect climate was, one warmist of my acquaintance declared that it was the weather that he remembered from his childhood.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  phil brisley
January 13, 2017 12:15 pm

“MarkW
January 13, 2017 at 8:59 am
When asked what the perfect climate was, one warmist of my acquaintance declared that it was the weather that he remembered from his childhood.”
That’s about it. If you’re my age (51), you remember (at least here in Ontario, Canada), very cold 70s and 80s.
Who is to say that the 90s till today aren’t “perfect”?

phil brisley
Reply to  phil brisley
January 13, 2017 12:39 pm

Thanks for the response Caligula Jones and my sincerest apologies to Steve Paikin.

Wharfplank
January 12, 2017 2:14 pm

Streaming on Netflix? Oh goody, that’s really easy to avoid…

January 12, 2017 2:28 pm

Not to defend him, I will say Nye is recognized (at least in Ontario) as an authority concerning AGW.

Well, that’s part of the problem. People who are not authorities are promoted by the MSM and entertainment industry as “authorities”. (Al Gore ring a bell?)
I remember seeing Meryl Streep appearing before a US government committee looking into the scare of Alar being sprayed on apples a decade or so ago. (The actress tearfully said, “What are we doing to our children!” among other things.)
Her expertise presented by those who asked her to appear?
She had played a farmer’s wife in a movie.

phil brisley
Reply to  Gunga Din
January 12, 2017 3:55 pm

I agree Gunga Din…much more so than Nye, like Streep and other “elites”, Gore triumphs…the AGW scare is believed, especially amongst the educated class.
Um, like, wow..holy cow…as always…these are interesting times.

Reply to  phil brisley
January 13, 2017 3:26 pm

the AGW scare is believed, especially amongst the educated class.

With “safe spaces” and teddy bears and play-do being handed out or whatever else US Universities and our educational system are doing to pacify those who aren’t sure which bathroom to use because Trump won, perhaps Streep was right.
If I may paraphrase her, “What have we done to our children!”
You’re the parent, not the “schooling” system. Stay involved with your child. Don’t leave the values and common sense they learn up to a Government system.

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Gunga Din
January 13, 2017 7:53 am

An acquaintance of mine is a biker-ish sort, someone who definitely “knows someone who knows someone”.
He was once hired to be a consultant on a show about bikers. The director asked him to join him and the cast at a bar, without telling anyone who he was, and “mess with cast” to give them a taste of how he wanted them to get into character.
Needless to say, the big, tough actors, even with their tats, beards and fake persona, were quickly disabused of the idea that playing an biker isn’t close to being an actor…

Caligula Jones
Reply to  Caligula Jones
January 13, 2017 7:56 am

Er, make that “playing an biker isn’t close to BEING a biker…”

Cliffhanger
January 12, 2017 3:02 pm

Bill Nye is a genius. He has brought science to many many children and young adults. I think he getting a bad rap in this post because he doesn’t believe in the supernatural.
[??? .mod]

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Cliffhanger
January 12, 2017 6:55 pm

“Cliff” writes similar to some others from the last 10 years. Could be one of those with a new name.
So, to Cliff, and any readers not familiar with the issues, let me say I have recently reached a tipping point regarding the recycling of such things as “every scientific academy in the world believes” [Note the term believes, rather than has proof of.] Further, I never heard Bill did not believe in the supernatural — and do not care.
Anyway, for Cliff and friends: Find a version of the 1948 song “Life Gets Tee-Jus Don’t It”, written by Carson Robison. Many versions are on the web. The song expresses why most of us do not bother (anymore) to answer these recycled questions.
PS: We all believe in climate change.

Cliffhanger
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
January 13, 2017 5:43 am

This was my second time commenting. My advice for you would be to smoke some weed and look through a microscope!

MarkW
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
January 13, 2017 9:03 am

Once again, clff demonstrates just how stupid it actually is.
His first point is totally irrelevant to anything John wrote, and the second was just a pathetic insult.

Reply to  Cliffhanger
January 13, 2017 5:14 am

[???mod] – It is Bill nye in disguise.

MarkW
Reply to  philjourdan
January 13, 2017 1:46 pm

On another thread, Cliff is trying to prove that Obama is the greatest president ever. Literally.

Reply to  philjourdan
January 14, 2017 4:49 pm

If the destruction of the US as a world power and the #1 economy is your goal, then yes, Obama is the greatest ever. You can say a lot about Obama, but you cannot say he did not get anything done.

Rob Bradley
Reply to  philjourdan
January 14, 2017 4:57 pm

philjourdan, on Bush’s last day in office, the USA was the #1 world power, and the #1 world economy. As of today, the USA is the #1 world power and the #1 world economy. So, please explain to us exactly what Obama destroyed.

Mary Brown
Reply to  Rob Bradley
January 14, 2017 7:14 pm

Free enterprise

Reply to  Rob Bradley
January 17, 2017 2:26 pm

The Steelers were up by 21 at half time. They won by 3. Had the game gone 5 quarters, they would have lost.
So the US still has the same lead it did when Bush was in Office? No. So we are respected around the world? Tell that to Ambassador Stevens, Netanyahu, Putin or even Assad (when you can get him to stop laughing). How about the mad mullahs, or little Kim? ISIS? How about Cameron? Yea, getting someone with any guts to say something other than he was a “good man” is tough. Even for those not dead.
Thanks to Obama, we still have some nukes, but no respect. He threw our allies under the bus, and licked the bottoms of the our enemies. He took the strongest economy in the world and subjected it to 8 years of less than 1.25% growth. Anemic, not even enough to keep up with inflation.
I am sure you would like your participation trophy, but there are none in real life. So you will have to just suck up the fact that Obama was the worst thing for the country since the Plague.

MarkW
Reply to  Cliffhanger
January 13, 2017 9:01 am

Reading lines that other people wrote for you makes one a genius?
Has anyone ever mentioned Nye’s belief or non-belief in the supernatural?
Everyone I have read points out to the many real world examples of Nye being flat out wrong.
Did you take classes in red herrings, or are you just naturally stupid?

Reply to  Cliffhanger
January 13, 2017 3:54 pm

Bill Nye is a genius. He has brought science to many many children and young adults. I think he getting a bad rap in this post because he doesn’t believe in the supernatural.

WOW!
I bet Cliff still runs recordings of Nye’s shows to learn everything there is to know about everything.
I’ve seen some of his shows. Hardly really teachings kids anything. The whole show was predicated on the assumption that kids have a short attention span. He did a lot of flashy things to communicate a conclusion but they learned NOTHING about observing and thinking and reasoning about what was observed.
Mr. Wizard had him beat hands down.
“The supernatural”? At present he seems to believe and propound that what Man does is “Super” to the “Natural”.

fretslider
January 12, 2017 3:08 pm

Bill Nye The Useful Idiot Guy
Not fit to kiss David Bellamy’s feet
“I still say it’s poppycock,” he said. “For the last 16 years, temperatures have been going down and the carbon dioxide has been going up and the crops have got greener and grow quicker.
“We’ve done plenty to smash up the planet, but there’s been no global warming caused by man.
“If you believe it, fine. But I don’t and there’s thousands like me.”

David Bellamy tells of moment he was “frozen out” of BBC
Whadda guy.

Stephen Greene
January 12, 2017 3:17 pm

The first bunch of clown posts were GREAT! Still laughing!!!

Steve
January 12, 2017 3:31 pm

Bill Nye will talk about the science of greenhouse gases is proven but his experiment with the jars shows he doesn’t even know what the greenhouse effect is. He says the heat lamp simulates the sun. The entire concept of greenhouse gas effect is based on something that is transparent to solar energy and opaque to infra-red energy. Like glass. Like a greenhouse. A heat lamp emits infra-red energy, no solar wavelengths, So the heat lamp is just going to heat up the outside of the jar and not get any energy through the glass like solar energy would. And since the glass jar is ALREADY opaque to infra-red radiation then adding greenhouse gases inside the jar isn’t going to change anything. Its really a sad statement on our collective knowledge of simple science concepts that this guy isn’t mocked everywhere he goes.

Alba
January 12, 2017 3:34 pm

The BBC is to spend a large sum of licence-payers money identifying what they choose to call ‘fake news’.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/jan/12/bbc-sets-up-team-to-debunk-fake-news
Well, they could start with their own reports on climate change but somehow I think that they will be more likely looking at reports which don’t support the BBC propaganda position.

Alba
January 12, 2017 3:36 pm

More of that stuff which is now only a memory:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-38601592

Brian R
January 12, 2017 3:49 pm

Can we all agree to only call Bill Nye, Bill Nye “The non science guy” from now on

Roger Knights
Reply to  Brian R
January 12, 2017 6:28 pm

How about “. . . the ski-fi guy”?

Roger Knights
Reply to  Roger Knights
January 12, 2017 6:29 pm

Oops: “. . . the sci-fi guy”

MarkW
Reply to  Roger Knights
January 13, 2017 9:05 am

Sci-fi has to make sense.

John F. Hultquist
Reply to  Brian R
January 12, 2017 7:07 pm

Sciencey.
There are any number of non-science people. The subtly of ‘sciencey’ is that it negates his term for himself. So: Bill Nye – The Sciencey Guy, says to me, if you want good science, go elsewhere.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Brian R
January 12, 2017 7:57 pm

Bull Nye the Siants guy ; )

J Mac
Reply to  Brian R
January 13, 2017 1:36 pm

Bill Nye – the Science Lie.

Pamela Gray
January 12, 2017 8:38 pm

The saving grace about CO2 is that it makes people look really stupid. Just wait for it. It will come.

Liberator
January 12, 2017 11:19 pm

So when it suits them weather is climate change, when it doesn’t suit them climate change is not weather…

John
Reply to  Liberator
January 13, 2017 2:02 am

Yes, similar to how CO2 emissions can both cause droughts and floods in the same region. Quite magic, that CO2.

sherlock1
January 13, 2017 1:59 am

I reckon that is a syrup….
(Cockney rhyming slang – ‘syrup of figs’ – a wig….)

toms s
January 13, 2017 7:10 am

Hey, I got an idea. Let’s take weather caused disasters that have always occurred and now make wild claims about how we can stop them today by tweaking a trace gas in the atmosphere. Yeah, let’s do it!! (signed bill Nye)

Griff
January 13, 2017 8:22 am

In here is an explanation for why California and US are seeing current extreme weather conditions
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/how-rapid-arctic-sea-ice-melt-may-alter-global-weather-patterns/70000514
I don’t see how an extreme weather event likes this proves the California drought cycle is over…
If California truly moves away from drought, it will see a return to its previous pattern of regular/seasonal rainfall.
Not drought punctuated by extreme weather?
Is future California OK if it gets all its rainfall every other year or so from a week of this sort of rain??

MarkW
Reply to  Griff
January 13, 2017 9:07 am

Key word in the title, “may”.
Regardless, since there is absolutely nothing unusual in the recent CA weather, that alone disproves the claim that it must have been caused by CO2.
Poor Griff is getting more and more desperate.
Maybe he’s heard that the propaganda mill that employs him is going to have to downsize.

JohnKnight
Reply to  Griff
January 13, 2017 9:44 am

Griff,
“Is future California OK if it gets all its rainfall every other year or so from a week of this sort of rain??”
I’ve lived in California for about five decades, and people were talking about the generally dryish with occasional very wet years since I got here . . this is normal . .

Reply to  Griff
January 13, 2017 10:42 am

YOu do not see what when there is a flood, the drought is over?
Do you need a new pair of glasses?
The weather is not unusual, only infrequent. So you are now claiming the Arctic sea ice regularly disappears to cause the periodic Pineapple express that inundates California? Sounds like that is called weather, but you can call it a unicorn if you want.

MarkW
Reply to  philjourdan
January 13, 2017 1:47 pm

Griff frequently claims that a handful of ships logs over 100 years gives us as good a coverage of the arctic as satellites do today.

Mary Brown
Reply to  Griff
January 13, 2017 1:11 pm

California has always been boom-bust for rainfall. The last few years are just how it goes.