#AGU16 Governor Brown vows to launch his own 'damn satellites' for climate

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Guest essay by Eric Worrall

While Anthony was setting up his exhibit with Willis at the AGU convention, in another part of the conference, Governor Jerry “Moonbeam” Brown has vowed to launch his own satellites, if Trump switches off NASA satellite climate data collection.

California governor: ‘If Trump turns off the satellites, California will launch its own damn satellite’

California Gov. Jerry Brown gave a fiery speech on climate change policy on Wednesday, during which he said, “If Trump turns off the satellites, California will launch its own damn satellite,”according to The Los Angeles Times.

Brown was speaking at the 2016 meeting of the American Geophysical Union, a prominent body of scientists who study Earth and space.

In November, a top adviser to President-elect Donald Trump suggested the incoming administration would eliminate NASA’s earth science programs.

That would mean failing to launch, shutting down, or turning over the suite of satellites that provide the trove of data NASA releases about the Earth and its land, oceans, and air. That data set is critical for tracking hurricanes, coastal erosion, glacial melting, land use, wildfires, and even the approach of solar storms. Scientists across disciplines — and the world — have since told Business Insider that such a move would hurt their ability to do research.

The AGU meeting, not normally a hothouse of news-making political dissent, this year has been the site of public protests and appeals to Trump not to cut back or defund climate research.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/ca-gov-jerry-brown-california-could-launch-its-own-damn-satellite-2016-12

I’ve got no problem with a few additional climate satellites. A few state based satellite launches and space missions could be an exciting new addition to America’s space efforts, and would be far more productive use of taxpayer’s money than funding useless wind turbines.


Addendum by Anthony:

Here is Brown at AGU:

Given Brown’s track records on big projects, such as the ill-fated bullet train to nowhere and his idea for water tunnels under the California Delta, the chances of him actually starting his own space program are pretty slim, even if he demands it. That, and all this saber rattling is nothing more than a knee-jerk reaction to a psychotic episode by Eric Holthaus in the Washington Post:

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Readers may recall he is the same guy who vowed to have a vasectomy to save the planet, and to never fly again, then went ahead and had a child anyway, then later lectured us about family size. Holthaus is nothing more than a clickbait generator.

Right outside of where Brown was speaking at AGU16, other heads were exploding on the street as this was being pitched to AGU attendees.

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Class act, these people.

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CD in Wisconsin
December 15, 2016 11:33 am

To the individual with the Revolutionary Communist Party sign saying: “In the Name of Humanity, We Refuse To Accept A Fascist America”:comment image
Yea buddy, and I reckon that most of the U.S. refuses to accept a Marxist America too. So what’s you’re damn point?
It is difficult to find two ideologies imposed on human beings in the 20th century that have proven to be more deadly to humanity than Marxism and Naziism. You Marxists and the climate alarmsts have the same problem: Refusing to accept facts that run against the grain of your beloved belief system. Just pretend that those facts don’t exist and keep trotting along whistling a merry tune.
You Marxists should hardly be the ones invoking the name of humanity. Gaze into a mirror buster and see what hypocrisy looks like.

Reply to  CD in Wisconsin
December 15, 2016 3:01 pm

The word there is we… we who ? We as in a very small group of people and sometimes only one.

R. Wright
December 15, 2016 11:45 am

Our Governor Brown doesn’t even realize that the Climate Realists prefer the satellite data to the ground based data. This is how detached he is from the details of the climate debate. A few years ago, Governor Brown declared that the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) might have to be relocated because of sea level rise. He withdrew his comments after airport officials informed him that the runways are many feet above sea level. Governor Brown needs to start reading blogs like this one, to increase his understanding of the issues.

Resourceguy
Reply to  R. Wright
December 15, 2016 12:05 pm

Exactly, but then the Sierra Club that writes all of these speeches is not averse to turning things backwards if it sounds good for the moment. Who in the Gov’s Office is going to say otherwise or ask a lot of questions if it passes the limited thinking smell test?

Hivemind
Reply to  Resourceguy
December 15, 2016 8:33 pm

As we say in Australia, “A bear of little brain”.

December 15, 2016 11:45 am

Where’s Griff?

Russell R.
Reply to  HotScot
December 15, 2016 12:11 pm

He was viciously mauled by a polar bear advocate. He limped away with his ego separated from his keyboard.

MarkW
Reply to  Russell R.
December 15, 2016 12:32 pm

Don’t look now, he’s back in that same thread claiming that he has been vindicated.

Reply to  Russell R.
December 15, 2016 3:03 pm

+1

AndyG55
December 15, 2016 11:53 am

Meanwhile, Change.dot.org has a petition that will sign the death knell fro the AGW scam.
to Donald Trump….

“Due to the integral role of the Science Advisor, we urge you to appoint an individual with a strong scientific background who understands the rigorous scientific method, the need for evidence-based science,”
https://www.change.org/p/president-elect-trump-bring-science-to-the-white-house
They should be very careful what they wish for ! 🙂

Gamecock
Reply to  AndyG55
December 15, 2016 2:53 pm

Could he live in Huntsville?

Hivemind
December 15, 2016 12:03 pm

“…such a move would hurt their ability to do research.”
This is code for “I’m sponging off your hard work launching the satellites and don’t want to have to do the hard work myself.

Russell R.
December 15, 2016 12:08 pm

Government is only beneficial to the public when the service it provides is equal to, or greater than, the cost of that service. Anytime any government official is threatened with an accounting of how well this cost/benefit ratio is working for his citizens, instead of examining the waste that is lowering his ratio, he immediately fixates on any popular item under his control and threatens its termination, if any cuts are made.
Since JB has few options to cut popular services, he makes up a threat, that wasn’t made, and proposes a solution to a non-threat, non-problem. California is truly a blessed piece of real estate. It is too bad it is so infested with vermin.
If it is Brown, flush it down!

Resourceguy
December 15, 2016 12:08 pm

The real issue is research funding for biased simulation-based studies and over reach for the cause. It has nothing to do with the hard data systems like satellites or ARGO. But then they can’t be honest and say anything like that.

Chris Hanley
December 15, 2016 12:16 pm
Matt
December 15, 2016 1:26 pm

I see parallels between California and North Korea: both are struggling with their energy and water supply infrastructure; yet, while struggling even with these basics, they want to launch satellites… at least North Korea’s succession efforts have progressed better than California’s 😉

chuck Dolci
December 15, 2016 1:28 pm

Wait a minute. According to the “climate science” community the science is settled. If the science is settled then why do American taxpayers need to fund additional research? Haven’t they told us that there are no issues remaining, that the their knowledge is perfect? Why continue to fund research that has already been done and all the questions have been answered?

Hivemind
Reply to  chuck Dolci
December 15, 2016 8:37 pm

Australia tried that under Abbot. You should have heard them squealing like stuck pigs.

littlepeaks
December 15, 2016 1:42 pm

Good idea — let people in California pay for the satellites (I don’t live in CA).

Resourceguy
Reply to  littlepeaks
December 15, 2016 3:55 pm

Oops, they lost their checkbook.

Amber
December 15, 2016 2:42 pm

Send Brown up with the first Satellite so he can see California’s out of control debt from space .
Yes Hillary got more popular votes because of California but she was still below 50 % . Not exactly a winner if that was the criteria . Democrats lost . Figure out why…. as if it wasn’t obvious .
With respect to climate data the ones who have cooked the books have a motive not Trump .
Brown is like a Bernie whiner . Never actually solves anything just righteous banter .
Unfortunately for Bernie his own party knifed him so the electorate never had the chance .

JasG
December 15, 2016 4:39 pm

Who suggesting shutting the satellites down? The satellites are great! It’s their climate modeling effort that needs shut down – not through any ideology or partizanship but because it has been shown to be the worst performer compared not only to the satellites but to all other climate models everywhere.

John F. Hultquist
December 15, 2016 5:30 pm

Hello Californians,
Can someone write a report on the CA high speed train?
I see there is a new overpass (Tuolumne Street) being built in Fresno but it is for road traffic, not a train. The train will go under that, will it not?
Apparently they still need right-of-ways or land purchases and lots of money.
Is there a train system ordered?
Mountain tunnels?
Someone from CA must know where the information is on this project.
The hsr.ca.gov site seems to be highly enthusiastic about “sustainability” and less so about getting people on board a train.

markl
Reply to  John F. Hultquist
December 15, 2016 5:53 pm

If you can’t find definitive information on the “Bullet Train” it’s because you aren’t looking in the right place. It’s right next to the First Practical Super Capacitor Battery information. CA has spent more time and money arguing about where the train should stop, or not, than anything substantial like what the design will be. Which may be a good thing because at the current rate of progress they’ll never catch up to the technology curve to begin construction and we won’t be burdened with transportation that’s been so watered down from initial claims that its’ usefulness would be questionable. Besides, Moonbeam is more focused on saving the world from CO2 right now.

Dr. Strangelove
December 15, 2016 7:24 pm

Californians can have their referendum on Calexit and elect Hillary as their President. And the radical leftists and environmental activists can all migrate there. Good riddance

joe schmoe
December 15, 2016 8:52 pm

Yeah, because California is just rolling in cash.

bill hunter
Reply to  joe schmoe
December 15, 2016 9:52 pm

Don’t know what all the anger is about, after all the Greens have been claiming the investment in alternative energy will come back in spades. . . .California should be able to afford to launch their own satellites with all that extra cash.

Zeke
December 15, 2016 9:46 pm

“That would mean failing to launch, shutting down, or turning over the suite of satellites that provide the trove of data NASA releases about the Earth and its land, oceans, and air. That data set is critical for tracking hurricanes, coastal erosion, glacial melting, land use, wildfires, and even the approach of solar storms.”
…and determining the conditions for the increase in bolts from the blue, and tracking globally the earthquake pre-cursors known as earthquake lights, and tracking nuclear bomb testing incidents (switched off), and tracking dam levels where the water prices are jacked up and the dam levels are kept too high, and tracking the correlation between NEOs and geomagnetic storms, and tracking the ice flowing out from the center of Antarctica at all times, and tracking the ice flowing out from the center of Greenland, and tracking more NEOs not less, and tracking the break-up of NEOs as they pass by earth, and tracking sources of gamma from the tops of thunderstorms, and tracking massive natural sources of CO2 from volcanoes, and tracking massive sources of halides from oceans and volcanoes. And tracking 2Hz from volcanoes while they are at it.

Zeke
December 15, 2016 9:57 pm

I don’t know, maybe Donald J Trump is going to cut the MODEL funding at NASA.
Snip…snip…snip. Sweet dreams Sweaty.

ShaggyVI
December 16, 2016 8:49 am

and how does Professor Moonbat think that California is going to be able to fund this circus of stupidity..??

Rhee
Reply to  ShaggyVI
December 16, 2016 10:56 am

maybe he can cancel the “75mph bullet train” to nowhere, heh heh heh

Todd
December 16, 2016 5:32 pm

Does Brown realize that adding a satellite will only add to the evidence against human-induced climate change?

Jeff Alberts
Reply to  Todd
December 16, 2016 9:00 pm

Does Brown realize that adding a satellite will only add to the evidence against human-induced climate change?

Doubtful. He takes a Kool-Aid enema hourly (sorry for the visual folks.)

Jeff Alberts
December 16, 2016 7:39 pm

” ‘If Trump turns off the satellites, California will launch its own damn satellite’”
Since Trump won the election the world strawman population has enjoyed a hockey-stickian explosion.

papiertigre
December 18, 2016 4:47 am

Don’t we have a clause in the constitution for situations like the governor of a state losing his freaking sanity, having a complete break with reality for all to see?
Maybe the chief surgeon of the state to certify then we can cart his cra cra off to a padded room in the governors mansion?
Doctor Crusher report to Sacramento stat.

papiertigre
December 18, 2016 5:07 am

Who you tryin’ ta mess with ese?
Don’t you know Governor’s loco?

insane in the membrane = insane in the brain

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