Mann's Climate Madhouse Effect

From Mike Mann’s Facebook page:

Cover of my new book w/ Tom Toles due out in September, “The ‪#‎MadHouseEffect‬: How Climate Change Denial is Threatening our Planet, Destroying our Politics, and Driving us Crazy”

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I’d say when it comes to being driven crazy, it’s too late for Dr. Mann, because Barack O’Bama says:

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It’s the heat, not the humility, apparently. Mann’s book will likely be a howler, not because it will be funny, but because Mann’s so dead pan humorless, his attempt at being humorous will likely backfire just as badly as his attempts to conjure statistically significant warming trends from dead trees. He’ll need more than just “Mike’s Nature Trick” to pull that off.  I’m sure he’ll take some potshots at all the usual players, including Mark Stein, and maybe yours truly.

Meanwhile, Mann already has the book on his curriculum vitae, even though it’s not actually published yet, and won’t be until September.

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Robert of Ottawa
April 5, 2016 2:49 am

Crimmins, A., J. Balbus, J.L. Gamble, C.B. Beard, J.E. Bell, D. Dodgen, R.J. Eisen, N. Fann, M.D. Hawkins, S.C. Herring, L. Jantarasami, D.M. Mills, S. Saha, M.C. Sarofim, J. Trtanj, and L. Ziska, should hold their head in shame. They produce the words they are paid to.

TonyL
April 5, 2016 3:43 am

Anybody notice that the girl with the protest signs does not know how to wear a face mask? I would bet even money that she is not a nursing or med-tech major.
The WUWT ENSO meter has moved down twice in the last few days. Compared to what it usually does, this is unprecedented. Yes, yes, I know, the ENSO meter makes watching grass grow look like a high intensity, action-packed sport.

D. J. Hawkins
Reply to  TonyL
April 5, 2016 6:19 am

Yes. I was going to make that observation, but decided to read through the comments first. Kudos to your eye for detail. To boot, I’d wager she has it upside down. Typically there is a bendable metal strip across the nose-piece that allows you to adjust for a tighter seal. I’d say “Dumb as a box of rocks”, but that would be insulting to the rocks.

Edmonton Al
Reply to  D. J. Hawkins
April 5, 2016 7:57 am

Same here……… ;^D

Reply to  TonyL
April 5, 2016 2:13 pm

Now, now. Be nice. Maybe she’s just trying to practice what she preaches.

April 5, 2016 3:47 am

Obama Claims Global Warming Will Literally Drive People Crazy
The crazies are getting ever more desperate. Evolutionists tell us that humanity developed at the equator in a much warmer climate than we know in the present industrialized world. And yet, even though we evolved in a much warmer climate, a few degrees warmer will drive us over the edge they cry.
Well, it certainly has driven the rent-seekers over the edge. One-tree-Mike is funny though.

Reply to  markstoval
April 5, 2016 4:54 am

“One-tree-Mike is funny though.”
yes it is!
lol +

Tobyw
April 5, 2016 3:52 am

Why should we believe Mann’s climate hypotheses when he cannot do the simple reasoning and analysis of the effects of moving to a warmer climate?
And why not extend that lack of belief to his political and economics beliefs as well? What does “the science say”? Well, I’ve noticed that science does not talk, people talk. And to some extent data talks. Hopefully people talk after they have diligently observed, gathered data, formed a hypothesis, determined if it is falsifiable, lather, rinse, repeat, observe how predictive their hypothesis proves to be, looks for contrary evidence, publishes data and methods and invites criticism, disproves criticism in an ongoing process.

JohnWho
April 5, 2016 3:55 am

So, no one here is going to argue over whether Mann is an expert on Madhouses?

Reply to  JohnWho
April 5, 2016 4:55 am

not me

emsnews
Reply to  JohnWho
April 5, 2016 5:07 am

He just wrote a Bedlam time story for the kiddies. 🙂

April 5, 2016 5:20 am

I at first glance misread the subtitle to read:
How
Climate Change Alarmism
Is Threatening Our Planet,
Destroying Our Politics,
And Driving Us Crazy
It may be a more suitable subtitle.

indefatigablefrog
April 5, 2016 5:34 am

In the future historians will depict the argument as one that occurred between people who claimed that the climate changed and a group who believed that the climate was extraordinarily static.
And if the history is written by the leftist academic hegemony, then Mann will be depicted as the advocate of “climate change”.
Even though his principle contribution to climate science was the suggestion that there was no global temperature change for one thousand years up until the modern industrial era.
In other words, he’s the one who wants to convince everyone that there has been minimal climate change.
And that the entire Medieval Warm Period – was just weather.
No wonder he feels like he’s going mad.

Edmonton Al
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
April 5, 2016 7:59 am

Not going… GONE.

Hoplite
April 5, 2016 5:50 am

Odd that Mann accuses others of climate change denial given that it was HE who set out to ‘prove’ with his hockey stick, contrary to all other evidence at the time, that the climate in the past hadn’t really changed. If that’s not living, breathing climate change denial I don’t know what is.

April 5, 2016 6:00 am

I still wonder whether Mann is a very good computer programmer who deliberately produced a program to make a “hockey stick” out of red noise,or an incompetent who stumbled into a program that does the same thing.

Ric Haldane
Reply to  Tom Halla
April 5, 2016 8:16 am

Tom, I recall reading an article in the not too distant past, where someone had talked to a young programmer that did work for Mann. He stated that he gave Mann what Mann wanted knowing that the programing was crap.

April 5, 2016 6:13 am

Interesting that the only ones documented to have had psche problems are those climate scientists with the climate blues caused by the “Pause”. Oh they don’t acknowledge it but its because they are resisting the signals from their brains that warming isn’t happening as designed (the real classical d*nile studied by Sigmund and Anna Freud).

clovis marcus
April 5, 2016 6:59 am

You see what Mike has done. He has distracted you from his ‘science’ which is under attack from all sides and made it about denialism.
Watch the pea.

Johann Wundersamer
April 5, 2016 7:38 am

Good news –
Only Obama administration released recipients of new report claiming global warming
will harm the mentally ill.
____________________
Or what to do with
‘The Obama administration released a new report claiming global warming will make mental health issues worse — the report notes even “perceived” threats from global warming will harm the mentally ill.’

Edmonton Al
Reply to  Johann Wundersamer
April 5, 2016 8:03 am

Mike Mann is in trouble then………

Resourceguy
April 5, 2016 8:17 am

Doomsday climate books are a better opportunity for pitchmen than the doomsday recession/depression investment books. Climate doom is less cyclical than economic warnings. The market value fades on depression warnings when the recovery is more obvious to the book buyers. There is not as much on the obvious side in climate, especially with data manipulation.

April 5, 2016 8:17 am

“I’d say when it comes to being driven crazy, it’s too late for Dr. Mann, because Barack O’Bama.”
Is that the Irish Barry O’Bama? or the Kenyan Barack Obama?

Rogueelement451
April 5, 2016 8:20 am

Welcome to the House of Fun.
Madness.

Johann Wundersamer
April 5, 2016 9:07 am

e.g. Germany, Duisburg Process, today.
1 expert == Sachverständiger did’nt make his job.
So
The whole incident never gets to trial.
some kind’a mass murder. Who cares – not justice.

Bitter&twisted
April 5, 2016 9:20 am

Alarmists are mentally ill.
Can they get more crazy?

G. Karst
April 5, 2016 10:10 am

Has anyone checked the Panama leaks for the name of Mann or Gore? GK

kim
Reply to  G. Karst
April 5, 2016 10:35 am

Follow the money following the money.
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April 5, 2016 10:29 am

Clearly a self portrait inspired by Munch’s “Scream”

kim
April 5, 2016 10:41 am

Heh! Salud, Mod!
It was always about allegiance anyway.
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kim
Reply to  kim
April 5, 2016 12:10 pm

Double heh!! For awhile I thought my experience of having my best stuff censored was once again re-visited. I’m not being ironic, here; the moderators of the sites in which I have the most respect have been remarkably wise.
But thanks, anyway for allowing it. I’m trying to be ambiguous enough to make everybody happy. Is it working?
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[Reply: You’re being as cryptic as Johann Wundersamer. –mod]

Terry
April 5, 2016 11:11 am

Can’t help wondering how all his politicking and writing of political tomes fits into his schedule? Is he not a paid full time employee of a University? How much time can he actually be spending on his University duties?

rogerknights
Reply to  Terry
April 5, 2016 7:09 pm

Not too long ago he took a leave of absence. Maybe he’s still on it.

RWturner
April 5, 2016 11:17 am

It looks like the title of the book and the cover art are mocking the global warming alarmists. These guys really aren’t that intelligent.

April 5, 2016 11:44 am

Mann continues to polish his credentials as a “disgrace to the profession”.

whiten
April 5, 2016 12:48 pm

Sadly enough the claim of Obama, from the position I myself stand, it is apretty good claim with a very likely outcome in principle and in the generals of the claim, actually when considering that the “global warming” means climate change as per the actual given conditions.
Right or wrong that is another matter, but for the sake of the truth I have claimed and supported the same, years ago, as far going back as a decade ago…….so if somehow there is an increase of violence and madness observed, or claimed due to the climate change at an actual increase of 400 ppm as per now, and somehow that happens to be in correlation and effected by the change……then imagine the degree of it when at some point of 480 ppm …………as far as I can tell this is not a joke…..that does not mean that it is true or correct,,,,,but ignoring it has a very high price tag……
I have had a similar argument at the Guardian years ago, and treated in more detail and “depth”.
Again it does not mean that it is true or of any real substance, as the matter very complicated at that angle of approach…….simply trying a give my own take in this,,,,,,,in principle (only) I would completely agree with Obama in this one…..sorry if that is not so reasonably explained at this point…:), but again that is my take and understanding in the regard of this particular issue….
Hopefully my comment will have a contribution by showing that still there is possible to take and support arguments not in a very fashionable away, even here..:)
cheers

kim
Reply to  whiten
April 5, 2016 1:39 pm

Except there hasn’t been such an increase of violence and madness in climate as CO2 has risen from 280 to 400.
The argument has long been which has more effect upon climate, the increased amount of energy in a warming world, or a decreased polar/equatorial temperature gradient?
It amuses me that these are countervailing tendencies, but the latter has a much larger percentage decrease than the former a percentage increase.
One of these is a lot more intuitively obvious than the other, and much more easy of mass belief. The other, however, has much the stronger impact, however difficult to understand.
Bottom line: Higher CO2, lesser severity of storms. We may already be seeing that effect, though I would be the first to admit that that would a very premature conclusion.
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David A
Reply to  whiten
April 5, 2016 9:54 pm

whiten, what a delusional comment, with zero evidence given for even the correlation you imagine.

whiten
Reply to  David A
April 6, 2016 10:27 am

David A
April 5, 2016 at 9:54 pm
whiten, what a delusional comment, with zero evidence given for even the correlation you imagine.
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Hello David A.
Your point made is understood, ok.
But, just for a further explaining, my own point in my comment……….I am not claiming that I do agree in principle (only) with what Mr Obama says by relying in the grounds that there is data or research that to a degree show the mentioned correlation…..simply saying I do agree for other reasons than that, which are not explained in my post….and as for the sake of the truth the correlation was mentioned only in the prospect of that if one day there is a conclusion through the future research that such a correlation seems to be there, will it be considered seriously…
And also in my comment I think I was clear enough that I was not implying in anyway that in any point there was a suggestion or an implying of a certainty of such as this been true or not.
I just was trying to explain my own stand in this one, but clearly showing that there was no any real argument or evidence to imply the validity or the accuracy………I think anyone is entitle of that much…….as to be at least honest enough with his taken position…….
My main point is that even regardless of my position (which could be wrong in this one), still is not feasible to totally ignore or not seriously considered when it comes to environmental changes that seem to be sharp or drastic enough, according to our understanding or our knowledge.
The ppm of the CO2 variation and it’s increases stands as a sharp one when the length of time in consideration,,,,,,when in the same time the prospect of it following it’s present path at least for the immediate future seems plausible enough.
In the end it may be exactly as some here claim. that the increase of ppm(s) of CO2 in overall, as per the way it stands, is all or almost beneficial to us ( with nothing to worry about) and the rest of the biosphere,,,,,, but failing to take in consideration all that could and must be taken in account, as far as I can tell, usually means a probability of a disaster………..waiting to surprise us…….
anyway ….whatever…. in the main conclusion about my comment you are right, if I was claiming that in principle Obama is or could or must be right in this one because of a given correlation as per the case in point, then I would really had to consider my “delusion” about all this…:). Is not in my understanding or the info I rely on that an evidence of a such a correlation or a research showing such as a correlation it does exist……..
🙂
cheers

Reply to  David A
April 6, 2016 11:58 am

Whiten,
Here’s what you seem to misunderstand. Correlation is not causation. There can be an absolutely airtight, perfect correlation between two things occurring, without those two things causing or affection one another in reality. It is merely a statistical tool. It is not a diagnostic one.
“The ppm of the CO2 variation and it’s increases stands as a sharp one when the length of time in consideration,,,,,,when in the same time the prospect of it following it’s present path at least for the immediate future seems plausible enough.”
Not if you actually read the research that’s been available since the early 2000’s on how much and how fast CO2, and or temperatures, have varied in the past. Start with this report- Abrupt Climate Change-Inevitable Surprises- 2002- (read it free online)
http://www.nap.edu/catalog/10136/abrupt-climate-change-inevitable-surprises
Or this-https://www.wunderground.com/resources/climate/abruptclimate.asp
Here are a few quotes for you- (bold mine)
“Ocean and lake sediment data from places such as California, Venezuela, and Antarctica have confirmed that these sudden climate changes affected not just Greenland, but the entire world. During the past 110,000 years, there have been at least 20 such abrupt climate changes. Only one period of stable climate has existed during the past 110,000 years–the 11,000 years of modern climate (the “Holocene” era). “Normal” climate for Earth is the climate of sudden extreme jumps–like a light switch flicking on and off.
“As seen in Figure 1, the ice core record showed frequent sudden warmings and coolings of 15°F (8°C) or more. Many of these changes happened in less than 10 years. In one case 11,600 years ago, when Earth emerged from the final phase of the most recent ice age (an event called the Younger Dryas), the Greenland ice core data showed that a 15°F (8°C) warming occurred in less than a decade, accompanied by a doubling of snow accumulation in 3 years. Most of this doubling occurred in a single year.”

April 5, 2016 2:38 pm

Mann has in his credentials that he was a contributor to the IPCC report that received a Nobel Prize.
Anyone know when was the last time the IPCC used his Hockey Stick?
Who filed in support of him in his lawsuit?
He seems to be like that has-been at the bar that loves to tell anyone who will listen about the big play he made in “the game” years ago. They’ll buy him a drink. They’ll use his name to sell something. But no one will let him get near the ball again.