An Important Lesson On The Anniversary of Climategate.

Guest Opinion: Dr. Tim Ball

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I keep adding to my homemade list of aphorisms as events in this crazy world over take me. One I listed says,

Rules designed to facilitate operations bring them to a halt when people work to rule.

Misuse of rules was central to the corruption of climate science and, sadly but not surprisingly it continues.

We just passed the 6th anniversary of the release of emails from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU), an event James Delingpole called Climategate. I would like to say celebrated, but the full impact of the release did not affect science and society like its namesake. Instead, it is impacting in negative ways as the culprits continue their assault on the advance of knowledge and dissemination of information in a free and open society. Exposure of the cover-up was Watergate’s undoing, but the Climategate cover-up succeeded. The spin-doctors took over and orchestrated inquiries exposed later as a travesty but were effective. As Clive Crook, Senior Editor of The Atlantic wrote,

“I had hoped, not very confidently, that the various Climategate inquiries would be severe. This would have been a first step towards restoring confidence in the scientific consensus. But no, the reports make things worse. At best they are mealy-mouthed apologies; at worst they are patently incompetent and even wilfully wrong. The climate-science establishment, of which these inquiries have chosen to make themselves a part, seems entirely incapable of understanding, let alone repairing, the harm it has done to its own cause.”

This occurred even though Fred Pearce of the Guardian acknowledged that Andrew Montford made some effective points in an article titled “Montford lands some solid blows in review of ‘climategate’ inquiries.” Pearce tempered this for the regular reader in the standard way by noting that Montford received £3000 from the Global Warming Policy Foundation (GWPF).

About 30 years ago I gave a presentation at a large agricultural conference in North Dakota. I don’t normally stay for the formal dinner, but my travel schedule, the speaker, and the topic was intriguing. A US representative to the UN spoke presciently about an issue that is central to society and science in general but is already critical in the climate debate.

He said that a subtle but dominant battle would develop over the next 50 years as capitalism, the marketplace and society evolved. The central but simple point made involved a pen.

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He held out a pen and said, “If I sell you this pen, you have the pen, and I no longer have it.” There is a complete transferal of property, and the pen retains most of its value.

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He then explained that the world was increasingly one of ideas, and that creates a problem in the marketplace. If I have an idea and sell you the idea, you have the idea but I retain the idea. The minute you buy the idea it loses at least half the value. The challenge is how do you sell an idea and yet retain its value. How do you buy an idea and get intellectual and financial control? He predicted that the legalities of these challenges would alter every form of transaction and relationships at all levels. It would involve politicians and lawyers struggling to produce and apply legislation to protect the idea and the owner.

Most of these center round the idea of Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) that is one of the most contentious issues. As the National Law Review notes,

One of the primary U.S. trade negotiating objectives, as set forth in TPA, is “to further promote adequate and effective protection of intellectual property [IP] rights.”  Free trade agreements (FTAs) to which the United States is a party therefore traditionally include robust IP protection and enforcement obligations.  The final text of the TPP’s IP chapter remains broadly consistent with other U.S. trade agreements.  However, the chapter does include some new, different, and in some cases controversial obligations and limitations.

The Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP) is a recent example of protecting ideas and their economic potential. Industrial espionage, especially by nations like China, is well known. It is so important and negotiated in such secrecy with the TPP that on 13 November 2013 Wikileaks published

“Advanced Intellectual Property Chapter for All 12 Nations with Negotiating Positions (August 30, 2013 consolidated bracketed negotiating text)”

Rules of Intellectual property are designed to provide credit and reward to the individual; a concept academics enshrine in condemnation of plagiarism. Despite this, the people associated with Climategate saw IP as a potential for hiding their malfeasance. They used it to ignore completely the most well known of all math exam instructions, “Show your work.” The entire mentality is encapsulated in this email exchange between Climategate CRU Director Phil Jones to former CRU Director Tom Wigley, on January 21, 2005.

Wigley: I got a brochure on the FOI Act from UEA (University of East Anglia). Does this mean that, if someone asks for a computer program we have to give it out?? Can you check this for me (and Sarah). I will be at CRU next Mon, Tue, Wed in case Sarah did not tell you.

Jones: On the FOI Act there is a little leaflet we have all been sent. It doesn’t really clarify what we might have to do re programs or data. Like all things in Britain we will only find out when the first person or organization asks. I wouldn’t tell anybody about the FOI Act in Britain. I don’t think UEA really knows what’s involved. As you’re no longer an employee I would use this argument if anything comes along.

Wigley: Thanks for the quick reply. The leaflet appeared so general, but it was prepared by UEA so they may have simplified things. From their wording, computer code would be covered by the FOIA. My concern was if Sarah is/was still employed by UEA. I guess she could claim that she had only written one tenth of the code and release every tenth line.

Jones: “I wouldn’t worry about the code. If FOIA does ever get used by anyone, there is also IPR to consider as well. Data is covered by all the agreements we sign with people, so I will be hiding behind them. I’ll be passing any requests onto the person at UEA who has been given a post to deal with them.

“Hide the decline” to bypass evidence and hiding behind rules designed for openness was a favorite practice at the CRU under Jones.

There is another section in one of the emails from Wigley to Jones that reveals the thinking.

Let me fill you in a bit (confidentially). You probably know the panel members. We were concerned that the chair would be a strong person. It is Jerry Mahlman — about the best possible choice. (wonder how Mahlman feels as a “weak” person.) Richard Smith is the statistician — also excellent. Dave Randall, too — very good.

As token skeptic there is Dick Lindzen — but at least he is a smart guy and he does listen. He may raise his paper with Gianitsis that purports to show low climate sensitivity from volcanoes. I will attach our paper that proves otherwise, in press in JGR.

Michael Mann invoked the IP in his defense against requests for his emails concerning the ‘hockey stick’. The lawyer requesting the emails explained.

These emails represent a period of time when the science upon which major national and international policies have been based was being done. In light of the extremely important public policy issues that these emails informed, the public has a right to know what these government employees were doing and how they were doing it.

Mann won that case as the court ruled he was not required to disclose because the information was his IP. It didn’t matter that the public paid for the research or that the ‘hockey stick’ it produced was used as the basis of the 2001 IPCC Report that became the basis of the political agenda for political and economic control.

Two central players have now disclosed the truth about the agenda. Christiana Figueres executive secretary of the U.N.’s Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) admitted that the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.

“This is the first time in the history of mankind that we are setting ourselves the task of intentionally, within a defined period of time, to change the economic development model that has been reigning for at least 150 years, since the Industrial Revolution,” she said.

Naomi Klein, an advisor to the Pope, is another person to disclose the agenda.

SPIEGEL: You’re an activist, and you’ve blamed capitalism for all kinds of things over the years. Now you’re blaming it for climate change too?

Klein: That’s no reason for irony. The numbers tell the story. During the 1990s, emissions went up by 1 percent per year. Starting in 2000, they started to go up by an average of 3.4 percent. The American Dream was exported globally and consumer goods that we thought of as essential to meet our needs expanded rapidly. We started seeing ourselves exclusively as consumers. When shopping as a way of life is exported to every corner of the globe, that requires energy. A lot of energy.

The latest use of IP to hide rather than protect involves the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

A paper published in Science (June 2015) titled “Possible artifacts of data biases in the recent global surface warming hiatus” produced by NOAA employees, Tom Karl et al., tried to eliminate the hiatus or pause in the temperature increase of the last 19 years. Ross McKitrick, who worked with Steve McIntyre to expose Michael Mann’s ‘hockey stick’, quickly identified the problems. Others followed providing further confirmation of the falseness of the claim.

As usual, the cover-up reveals the real story.

Science, Space, and Technology Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) today sent a letter to National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Administrator Kathryn Sullivan responding to the agency’s unjustified refusal to provide the Committee with documents related to the agency’s decision to alter historical climate data. After three letters requesting these documents, Chairman Smith issued a subpoena on October 13th to obtain communications related to NOAA’s decision.

NOAA failed to respond. Subsequently NOAA provided what is tantamount to an IP claim.

Although NOAA failed to provide the Committee with any justification for withholding documents, a NOAA spokeswoman was quoted in the media saying that the agency’s “internal communications are confidential and not related to what Smith is trying to find out.” As such, NOAA reportedly does not intend to provide the Committee with communications.

This is more egregious than Michael Mann’s IP claim, because the people involved are federal bureaucrats, so the taxpayer directly funds their salary and work. However, like Mann, the work is critical to US and UN policy and is the basis for world policy plans for discussion in Paris. Another revelation underscored the parallel with other IPCC practices. Congressman Smith revealed that

Whistleblowers have told the committee, according to Smith’s letter, that Thomas Karl — the director of NOAA’s National Centers for Environmental Information, which led the study — “rushed” to publish the climate study “before all appropriate reviews of the underlying science and new methodologies” used in the climate data sets were conducted.

Mary McCarthy’s definition is confirmed.

Bureaucracy, the rule of no one, has become the modern form of despotism.

Most of the people going to Paris will know nothing about the climatology or climate science. They will not know or want to know that the science used as the basis for the conference is a creation of corrupted people who hide behind rules created for a completely different purpose. Charles Dicken’s summarizes Climategate and Paris.

I have known a vast quantity of nonsense talked about bad men not looking you in the face. Don’t trust that conventional idea. Dishonesty will stare honesty out of countenance, any day in the week, if there is anything to be got by it.

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Trebla
November 27, 2015 7:38 pm

How sad it is. Our new Prime Minister, “Junior” Trudeau couldn’t wait for the 3rd world shakedown to begin in Paris. He jumped the gun and declared today that Canada will “contribute” 3 billion dollars over the next few years to help developing nations deal with the effects of climate change.

Reply to  Trebla
November 27, 2015 8:28 pm

Ah, he’s a big L Liberal. You have to watch both the thimble and the pea…
It is $2.65 Billion Cdn. So just under $2 Billion in “real dollars”. But it gets better than that.
It is over five years
But it is even better than THAT. You see, the first year is only $300 million Cdn. The number rises each year until it is $800 million Cdn in year 5. So… lots of time to adjust the number, or delay it as time goes forward.
But here’s the killer.
They ALSO announced that they will not support an agreement in which emission cuts are legally binding.
So….All in all a made for the news cycle announcement. Not much money this year, perhaps more in a few years…maybe…or not……oh and any commits we make on emissions we are telling you in advance we refuse to be held legally accountable for.

John Robertson
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 27, 2015 9:07 pm

Actually it gets even better again, the canadian dollar will be worth about 40 cents US by mid next year.
Trudeau 2s fan base needs it.
Ontario and Quebec will founder without a devaluation.
So as the canadian dollar races to catch up with Zimbabwe, the actual wealth transferred will become minuscule.

commieBob
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 27, 2015 9:30 pm

The most brilliant thing is that Trudeau is going to let the provinces take the blame for any economic damage to the citizens. I bet we won’t see any strong federal legislation. All the action will be from the provinces. For instance Premier Mom is going to saddle the citizens of Ontario with Cap-and-Trade.
This is the same approach that let Chretien and Martin cut the federal deficit by reducing the amount Ottawa gave to the provinces. The provinces then had to make the budget cuts that affected the citizens. The provinces got all the blame, the feds got the glory of balancing the budget.
The Liberals are wily; run from the left, rule from the right. Canadians are used to that so when a politician actually keeps his word (eg. Mike Harris) they feel betrayed.

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 27, 2015 9:57 pm

…and upon further review, it gets even better than that.
The US has taken the position that the agreement must be legally non binding, because if it is, The Republicans won’t ratify it. So Trudeau comes out saying Canada wants the agreement to be legally non binding because it is important to have the US in the agreement.
Can’t you see the whole world jumping on this loop hole that Mr Trudeau has come up with? Every country in the world can follow his lead and insist that there be no legally binding agreement in order to keep the US in the agreement. The one that no one is legally required to keep. It is brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
COP21 will strut and fret its hour upon the stage, and then be heard no more.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 27, 2015 10:32 pm

Robertson
Golly.. just did an exchange rate chart. Fom parity in 2011 (a little above really) to 75 ¢ US now. Wow, just WOW. I wish I had shorted the Looney…
I thought you were blowing smoke, but a that rate, it’s 50 ¢ in 2019 without any accelleration.
What the He..y happend in / to Canada?

commieBob
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 28, 2015 3:18 am

E.M.Smith says:
November 27, 2015 at 10:32 pm
What the He..y happend in / to Canada?

Fracking happened to Canada. Canada is the largest foreign supplier of oil and natural gas. It is a large portion of Canada’s balance of payments. The world is awash in oil due to fracking and the price has, unsurprisingly, plummeted.
The lower Canadian dollar is good for other Canadian exports because it gives them a price advantage south of the border. With the high dollar, Canadian industry was having trouble selling their products in export markets. This phenomenon is called Dutch Disease
The Canadian dollar is back where it should be. “God is in his Heaven, all’s right with the world.”

Yirgach
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 28, 2015 7:51 am

Just wondering how much of a currency imbalance would have an effect on carbon emissions? I remember back in the late 80’s driving 5 hours up to Montreal for a week at the Jazz Festival. Really inexpensive as the CDN$ was on sale for $0.55 USD. Then when the values reversed, large shopping centers opened up on the US side of the border to pander to the ravening hordes. I smell some grant money out there…

Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 28, 2015 9:34 am

PM Trudeau is the most successful dance and drama teacher, ever!

BCBill
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 28, 2015 1:08 pm

Trudeau avoids using the climate fear terminology. I have faint hope that he is sceptical. The lower Canadian dollar is good for very few people in Canada. We manufacture very little and pay for all that we import in U.S. dollars. The low Canadian dollar is basically a massive reduction in average income for Canadians. Our economy and country were and are based on selling beaver pelts, metaphorically speaking. The concept which unifies Canada is that we sell body parts to earn money to buy products made elsewhere.

Reply to  BCBill
November 28, 2015 1:23 pm

When the housing crash occurred back in 08, I used to think the Canadian dollar was a good long term investment. They had the resources. Were reasonable about carried debt. Ascribed to growth that made sense. I’m glad I didn’t make that move.
What happened to you people and your country ?

asybot
Reply to  davidmhoffer
November 29, 2015 3:56 am

@ 318 am “Canadian industry” What Canadian Industry? There used to be one in Ontario where did that go? And now the whole thing seems to be even getting worse , Ontario Hydro? Alberta gone crazy, BC raising carbon taxes what the heck is going on ?

sarastro92
Reply to  Trebla
November 28, 2015 11:17 am

Stop bashing the developing world. The whole Climate Change/ AGW scam was cooked up by the Anglo-Americans. The rest of the world apparently knows it’s nonsense… if the West wants to commit economic suicide don’t expect Brazil or Malaysia to stop them.
And if the Anglo-American led West wants to toss $100 B/yr of taxpayer money into the deal… all the better. The rest of the world is just playing the game that the West invented.

Reply to  sarastro92
November 28, 2015 1:27 pm

What does appear is that the rest of the world wants to make the Anglo-American concept a thing of the past.
Shocking misapplications of tolerating those who want to take advantage of good will. Don’t view this video unless you really want to get upset. It rattled me.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/11/watch-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/

Keitho
Editor
Reply to  sarastro92
November 30, 2015 12:16 am

Very true.

Reply to  Trebla
November 28, 2015 5:32 pm

I am a developing nation, I am a tribe member and chief of The Tom Nation a nation that has its roots in America in the last century (the 20th). All I need is $4 billion for my nation to go all green, come on Canadian pay up.

Reply to  tomwtrevor
November 28, 2015 5:44 pm

The Knutesea Tribe demands the right to burn fossils. They are gifts to our forebears and in fact oozed out the ground in our native lands. We will break our bonds with you if you take the money from the white man because we think it angers our gods. As a token of our commonalities we offer our fossils to your tribe and would like to trade to improve our futures.

sarastro92
Reply to  tomwtrevor
November 28, 2015 6:49 pm

Actually the developing world has not submitted green energy plans… except for a few micro-states, just about everyone has plans that permit greatly expanded CO2 emissions. It’s the West who are the jerks…

November 27, 2015 7:39 pm

Transparency.
There was a time it meant nothing to hide.
Now it means, “Ha Ha! You can’t see me!”

Reply to  Gunga Din
November 28, 2015 8:44 am

+97%!!

Ben U.
November 27, 2015 7:40 pm

“an event James Delingpole called ClimateGate”
‘Twas Bulldust coined “Climategate”
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/breaking-news-story-hadley-cru-has-apparently-been-hacked-hundreds-of-files-released/#comment-227351
and Delingpole credited Bulldust wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/28/telegraphs-booker-on-the-climategate-scandal/

RoyFOMR
Reply to  Ben U.
November 28, 2015 4:44 am

“Twas Bulldust coined “Climategate”
Yup, Ben, Bulldust(Aus) did coin that phrase first.

emsnews
Reply to  RoyFOMR
November 28, 2015 6:28 am

Twas the night before Climategate and all through the house, not a creature was stirring except for Bulldust. 🙂

Graphite
Reply to  Ben U.
November 29, 2015 5:17 pm

Start with the factor of the released emails coming from the CLIMATIC Research Unit and involving discussions on CLIMATE change by “scientists” involved in CLIMATE research. To that add the penchant for tacking “gate” onto a convenient noun to arrive at a shorthand form for every cover-up by public officials from Dogpatch dog-catcher to President of the United States of America.
The result, in this particular case, cannot be anything other than Climategate.
To suggest that the coining of this word is somehow worthy of praise, or even worthy of recognition, is farcical in the extreme.

November 27, 2015 7:57 pm

“… the goal of environmental activists is not to save the world from ecological calamity but to destroy capitalism.”
Undermining capitalism is the transparent goal of some who support the IPCC, but the real danger lies with unintended consequences. Only western climate science is influenced by regressive green politics and elsewhere, they know that our delusional obsession with CO2 emissions will inevitably lead to their advance at our expense by maneuvering around the penalties imposed to insure that climate reparations advance the developing world at the expense of the developed world.

Dave G
Reply to  co2isnotevil
November 27, 2015 10:08 pm

Receiving welfare rarely advances anybody. It just makes them more dependent on free stuff.

Leonard Lane
Reply to  Dave G
November 27, 2015 10:37 pm

Dave that’s true, thank you. But welfare is even worse. By destroying the work ethic, it also destroys the self reliance and self improvement ethics. Take away a peoples desire for self improvement and you bind them with unbreakable chains to a government dependence. The lack of liberty and freedom in turns eats at their souls. Welfare is a curse to those who come to depend upon it.

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Dave G
November 28, 2015 3:57 am

This is true if one is dependent on welfare. I never have been, until now. I am currently “on welfare” (Or rather trying to obtain some support from Govn’t for my decades of unquestioning taxpaying) to help me pass this downturn in the IT space I am in. The issue is here, in Australia, I am a white, middle aged man. Lowest “priority”. And to receive support, from these agencies I have so lavishly paid in to…without a choice, I have to be out of work for at least 3 months *AND* evicted (Effectively). I thought Australia was first world and rich?! Sheesh!
Anyway, I am “better” off than some, for now. I stopped by a bus stop the other day. An old lady clearly had slept rough overnight (Shoes neatly tucked under the bench she slept on). I asked if she wanted some food (McDonalds). Rejected (Yeah ok get that). In any case, on my way past again, I got her some water. What can you do? I do not plan to be in her position anytime soon, but it may happen.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  co2isnotevil
November 27, 2015 10:39 pm

They THINK they will advance… in reality it is the Cayman bankers that will advance on the deposited corruption money (Swiss Bank accounts are sooo last century… the USA has now neutered their privacy laws…)
This is all just a legal money loot and launder scheme, IMHO.

indefatigablefrog
Reply to  E.M.Smith
November 28, 2015 12:57 am

Yeah, the irony is that people who LIVE in Geneva, now have off-shore accounts.
But, the tax-free embezzlement continues apace.
Seemingly nothing will ever stop that,

November 27, 2015 8:20 pm

Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Klein
“Family
Naomi Klein was born in Montreal, Quebec, and brought up in a Jewish family with a history of peace activism. Her parents were self-described “hippies”[10] who moved to Montreal from the U.S. in 1967 as war resisters to the Vietnam War.[11] Her mother, documentary film-maker Bonnie Sherr Klein, is best known for her anti-pornography film Not a Love Story.[12] Her father, Michael Klein, is a physician and a member of Physicians for Social Responsibility. Her brother, Seth Klein, is director of the British Columbia office of the Canadian Centre for Policy Alternatives.
Her paternal grandparents were communists who began to turn against the Soviet Union after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and had abandoned communism by 1956. In 1942, her grandfather Phil Klein, an animator at Disney, was fired after the Disney animators’ strike,[13] and went to work at a shipyard instead. Klein’s father grew up surrounded by ideas of social justice and racial equality, but found it “difficult and frightening to be the child of Communists”, a so-called red diaper baby.[14]
Early life
Klein spent much of her teenage years in shopping malls, obsessed with designer labels.[16] As a child and teenager, she found it “very oppressive to have a very public feminist mother” and she rejected politics, instead embracing “full-on consumerism”.
She has attributed her change in worldview to two events. One was when she was 17 and preparing for the University of Toronto, her mother had a stroke and became severely disabled.[17] Naomi, her father, and her brother took care of Bonnie through the period in hospital and at home, making educational sacrifices to do so.[17] That year off prevented her “from being such a brat”.[16] ”
Wrote a few books and now she is the advisor to the Pope. A hand picked handler to make sure he doesn’t go astray for an institution that was facing irrelevance and is now reemerged with purpose.

indefatigablefrog
Reply to  knutesea
November 28, 2015 1:07 am

In summary – World renowned fruitloop and basket case, Naomi Klein, comes from a long line of fruitloops and basket cases.
Personally, I have never been obsessed with designer labels and nor have experienced a damascene conversion in which I rejected designer labels.
Naomi Klein is alienated from moderation. She seems to have only lurched from one extreme to the other.
She should try not being a crazy bitch!!!
Just a suggestion.

noaaprogrammer
Reply to  indefatigablefrog
November 28, 2015 9:53 am

She should next try the “Middle Way” of Buddhism.

indefatigablefrog
Reply to  noaaprogrammer
November 28, 2015 2:08 pm

Holy smoke – noaaprogrammer – your comment lead me to the discovery of THIS.
“Everything changes. As Buddhists, we know this.”
“Now I’m struggling with what it means to be a secular feminist Jew at the Vatican.”
So, she’s a buddhist secular Jew at the Vatican.
You couldn’t make this shit up!!!!
http://www.tricycle.com/interview/capitalism-vs-climate

Barbara
Reply to  knutesea
November 28, 2015 9:36 am

So Naomi Klein had no family members at Lexington, Bunker Hill, Andersonville and Pear Harbor.
Then in Canada, no family members who settled in Upper Canada 1783/84 who helped to found a country along with Quebec and Eastern Canada.
She has no concept of what it means or what it takes to found a free country and to keep citizens free from tyranny. Easier to just skip out.

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
November 28, 2015 11:17 am

Naomi needs to learn some history!

Barbara
Reply to  Barbara
November 28, 2015 2:04 pm

‘From Private to Colonel: Jewish Service in the Revolutionary War’
Articles covers the prominent figures in the War. As always the ordinary soldiers don’t get mentioned very often.
http://acjna.org/acjna/articles_detail.aspx?id=405
Plenty of military service history on the internet right down to the present if anyone is interested.

Reply to  Barbara
November 28, 2015 6:26 pm

Right across the street from Pennsylvania hospital in Philadelphia on spruce st. I think he is considered a founding father. There is a memorial to him.

Reply to  Barbara
November 28, 2015 2:17 pm

Part of what fascinates me about Ms Klein is how she is plucked from relative obscurity to be the message maker for the Pope. Like Frog says she could use a good dose of moderation in her values and like you say she appears to be detached from the value of freedom although she excelled in enjoying its fruit. Classic.
No, what really fascinates me is how she goes from CANADA to Pope handler.
I see that Canada has produced Maurice Strong, Michael Mann, Trudeau and now Ms Klein.
It’s not my intention to pick on Canada, but rather to understand why it’s producing key leaders in the CAGW movement.
What do you think ?

rovingbroker
November 27, 2015 8:22 pm

The patent system is designed to protect both the inventor and the public.

Primary incentives embodied in the patent system include incentives to invent in the first place; to disclose the invention once made; to invest the sums necessary to experiment, produce and market the invention; and to design around and improve upon earlier patents.
[ … ]
In accordance with the original definition of the term “patent”, patents are intended to facilitate and encourage disclosure of innovations into the public domain for the common good. If inventors did not have the legal protection of patents, in many cases, they might prefer or tend to keep their inventions secret. Awarding patents generally makes the details of new technology publicly available, for exploitation by anyone after the patent expires, or for further improvement by other inventors. Furthermore, when a patent’s term has expired, the public record ensures that the patentee’s invention is not lost to humanity.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent
The secrecy system used by CRU and others protects only the “inventor” and damages the “common good.”

u.k.(us)
November 27, 2015 8:25 pm

Good stuff as always Tim Ball.
I’d endorse ya, but I’m not sure all my tapes have been burned.
The BBQ is heating.

indefatigablefrog
Reply to  u.k.(us)
November 28, 2015 1:16 am

Yeah, it’s going to be a BBQ winter.
What with global temperatures surging.
Crank up the patio heater and incinerate some methane producing bovine on a heap of charcoal briquettes.
Phwoar, what a scorcher.
December is just ’round the corner.
But those boffins at the Met (met office not metropolitan police) tell us it’s going to be more like mid July.
See inside for photos of girls scantily clad in sexy santa outfits.
Sorry, I seem to be channeling a British tabloid.
I don’t know what came over me.

November 27, 2015 8:42 pm

Is it any wonder that climatology and climatologists have absolutely no credibility among the general public? The elites may have been fooled by the charlatans, but the average Joe still has something his so-called superiors lack — common sense.

u.k.(us)
November 27, 2015 9:42 pm

Still waiting for that “important lesson” promised in the headline.
Any time you want.
Teach this old dog a new trick.

November 27, 2015 10:26 pm

Dishonesty stares directly into the face of every American, everyone in the Free World, everyday from 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW.

E.M.Smith
Editor
Reply to  Joel O’Bryan
November 27, 2015 10:45 pm

Doesn’t stare in my face… ANY time the Liar In Chief comes on the TV, I change the channel quick, before the nausia sets in…. (No, no sarc; Quite true… unfortunately…)

Mark Gilbert
Reply to  E.M.Smith
November 28, 2015 8:41 am

Sigh, me too. I would love to hear the other side, but his rhetoric is so full of lies and propaganda I get physically ill. My poor country.

Reply to  E.M.Smith
November 28, 2015 2:02 pm

Yep, can’t change station fast enough trying to avoid his noxious vocalizations.

asybot
Reply to  E.M.Smith
November 29, 2015 4:06 am

I just watch sports and read news, (WUWT etc) but dang it all he was at a basketball game!

November 27, 2015 10:44 pm
SkepticGoneWild
November 27, 2015 10:50 pm

Whatever happened with the release of Climate 3 emails?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/13/climategate-3-0-has-occurred-the-password-has-been-released/
That was over 2 years ago. Did I miss something?

Reply to  SkepticGoneWild
November 27, 2015 10:57 pm

correction: “Climategate 3 emails”

Martin A
Reply to  SkepticGoneWild
November 28, 2015 12:32 am

Good question.
I think the encryption key was given to a small number of people but nothing seemed to appear subsequently – not even an indication that the remaining emails were nothing more than “room 34 for the meeting at 4pm tuesday” of similar.

John Peter
Reply to  Martin A
November 28, 2015 4:50 am

As I recall it, University of Anglia put the lawyers on then few known recipients of the key and threatened them with “hell and fury” if they made public the e-mails. I seem to recall that Anthony Watts was one of the recipients, but I may be wrong here. In any event I would think he might be privy to the details of what actuallyhappened to the key.

pat
November 28, 2015 12:07 am

27 Nov: BBC: Matt McGrath: Will coal be on the dole after COP21?
Look at India – the world’s third largest economy but only accounts for 6% of global energy use. Some 240 million people still lack access to electricity.
The country is determined to address this, and they are going on a coal binge to do it…
By 2020, India will be the world’s second largest producer of coal, overtaking the US. And it will be the world’s largest importer.
They are not alone. As my colleague David Shukman has been reporting, the Philippines is set to establish 23 new coal fired plants by 2020.
In fact 40% of the 400 gigawatts of generation capacity to be added in Southeast Asia by 2040 will be coal-fired.
And while coal use will decline in the developed economies of the EU and the US, the whiff of sulphur will be rising in Japan, where coal’s share of the energy mix by 2030 will increase to 30%…
Benjamin Sporton, World Coal Association: “Many countries are using coal and are going to use it for decades to come so we ought to be talking about how the outcome of Paris can support countries to use the best coal technology. And ultimately we need to be talking about carbon capture and storage (CCS) as well.”…
(SHAME ON OXFAM) Tim Gore, Oxfam: For the many developing countries that have not yet built electricity grids, leapfrogging to renewables makes a lot more sense…
In the UK this week the Department for Energy and Climate Change (DECC) declared that it will fully remove the £1bn available for a pioneering Carbon Capture and Storage competition scheme for power stations…
***There is a feeling that the reluctance to invest in the CCS might spring from a fear that if industry spends hundreds of millions on proving it works, they may not recoup that investment.
The big markets are likely to be in China and India. And both countries will want this technology, essentially for free, as part of a global deal…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-34904127
27 Nov: IBN Live India: PTI: India going to Paris meet with progressive & proactive stance: Prakash Javadekar
Javadekar participated in a live interactive ‘Talkathon’ on India’s stand at COP21. He, along with Power Minister Piyush Goel, answered netizens’ queries pertaining to India’s participation in the upcoming climate meet including the country’s aspirations, outcomes and partnerships…
He said climate change needs to be addressed in a similar manner as HIV/AIDS, noting it could be achieved by selling cheap technologies to developing countries for producing clean energy.
“To fight HIV/AIDS, world did arrive at an extraordinary solution to an extraordinary problem and they made available cheaper drugs. Is climate change not as serious as HIV/AIDS?
***And one solution is that the company who have done research should not go uncompensated and part of Green Climate Fund should be given to them,” he said…
http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india/india-going-to-paris-meet-with-progressive-proactive-stance-prakash-javadekar-1169577.html

pat
November 28, 2015 12:08 am

28 Nov: EconomicTimesIndia: Urmi A Goswami: Hope collective wisdom prevails in Paris: Prakash Javadekar
Environment minister Prakash Javadekar says India will be positive, proactive and progressive in Paris, but it will be no pushover…
JAVADEKAR: There is talk of some different types of goals like decarbonisation or carbon neutrality…Individual countries may have that goal, but collectively, countries cannot have that type of goal because every country is at a different development stage.
When the developed world was at our current stage of development, they adopted a development path that was dirty. Comparatively we are walking a much cleaner path at that same stage. It can’t be forgotten that we are a developing country and our development needs cannot be forgotten…Neither science nor technology is static – it is evolving. I believe in human intent and intellect. I believe, therefore, there will be newer and newer solutions, more effective solutions…
Q: There is the global push against use of coal, the most recent being the OECD agreement on financing for coal.
JAVADEKAR: The OECD agreement is a regressive step. This is like sau chuhe khake billi chali haj (roughly translates to someone finding religion after a life of sin). Developed countries have used coal to the maximum. Even today they use large amounts of coal.
I am proposing a formula to address the use of coal…
India is proposing a new scientific formula for the use of coal. We will put it forward in the negotiations.
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/opinion/interviews/hope-collective-wisdom-prevails-in-paris-prakash-javadekar/articleshow/49955066.cms

Questing Vole
November 28, 2015 1:19 am

Dear Lord, the world is going to hell on a “green” handcart, and now here’s Cardinal Turkman asking Catholics to help it along by marching in support of COP21.
Good stewardship of the earth is an indisputable obligation on all “men of good will”, of any religion or of none. There’s no need for a papal encyclical to make the point. What worries me is the fear that churchmen taking credit for it may not have grasped the politics behind CAGW theory, and may have allowed themselves to be flattered into endorsing a fashionable but fundamentally flawed (one might add, Godless) argument they have not fully understood.
Why would they do that? Let’s be charitable and put it down to the “Emperor’s New Clothes” syndrome. They are only human, and not as culpable as those who have misled them.

John Haddock
November 28, 2015 2:46 am

In life, there are those that know, and those that don’t know.
Those that don’t know benefit from the “certainty of ignorance”.

November 28, 2015 2:51 am

IPR is transitory in nature. Knowledge is doubled when shared. To bad I can’t sing a a song that is well known to celebrate the day of your birth, I’ll have to pay a royalty. Perhaps I can acquire the rights to the alphabet, the numbers or language.
I suppose some the ideas and thoughts I could have written as intellectual property. They’d never see the light of day. And it wouldn’t have served my greater purpose of engaging fraudulent science. Is any information that is discussed IPR for somebody? “Everyman, I will be with thee, and be thy guide, in thy most need to go by thy side.”
If all the computers failed, I wonder if we’d be able to recreate them at this point. There is a line of code in 0s and 1s that I consider to be one the most important things ever created, read. How many people in the world know that line? Or the significance of ttran?

davideisenstadt
Reply to  rishrac
November 28, 2015 5:05 am

“To bad I can’t sing a a song that is well known to celebrate the day of your birth, I’ll have to pay a royalty. ”
Not any more…the “owners” of the copyright to that song recently lost their rights, a US court held that the song was never protected by copyright.
So, that miscarriage of justice has finally ended.

Reply to  davideisenstadt
November 28, 2015 6:32 pm

Thank you, that’s great to know… it’s probably the most sung song in the world. It’s sung widely outside of the US. (in English)

Dodgy Geezer
November 28, 2015 2:54 am

There is NO SUCH THING as ‘intellectual property’.
Ownership is a fundamental defining characteristic of property. This means that if people relinquish ownership they DO NOT HAVE IT anymore.
Ideas do not work like this, being infinitely reproducible at zero cost. They are NOT property. Greedy businessmen may argue that they should be able to live off the creative ideas of someone who died 100 years ago if they have bought the ‘rights’ to that idea, but practical enforcement of that concept would stop human progress dead in its tracks. People who create should be acknowledged, and be able to profit from their creative abilities should they wish to, but the concept of passing that ability on to future generations as if it were property is fundamentally mistaken….

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
November 28, 2015 3:35 am

“Dodgy Geezer
November 28, 2015 at 2:54 am”
A post, not about ‘intellectual property’, but related maybe. OT? Not sure. I used to work for a major IT service provider (Name withheld) here in Australia. Personal pictures on desks were actively not welcome. One day I was at my desk and someone who I shared the office floor with walked up to me to discuss something, had a look, and said “Empty desk. Empty mind!”. I don’t adorn my work space with personal family images, pictures of friends etc. You know what I mean?
And I responded to him and pointing to my head said “They can’t force me to remove personal images or anything else from *MY* mind”.

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
November 28, 2015 6:13 pm

Dodgy Geezer:
It most certainly is a property, and there is nothing at all “greedy” about it. An idea of value is by the definition of value worth something. Ideas are not infinitely reproducible at all. Thomas Edison’s ideas for the light bulb, the phonograph, movies and his many other inventions took a lot of work and were not reproducible without work or stealing. The value of the time Edison put into his ideas is no different than the time a carpenter puts into building a house. Clearly a house is property, also clearly a house has more value than the materials used to build it, when you buy a house part of what you are paying for is the carpenter’s time and skill. When you resell the house you are still in part selling that time and skill. Intellectual property is only a different form of time and skill and even so the government does allow ownership of intellectual property forever. As an artist I can tell you that not everyone who benefits from Intellectual property rights are corporations and very few of them are “greedy.’

Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
November 28, 2015 6:22 pm

D Geezer,
Sorry, must disagree. Patent and copyright are most assuredly property, And we’d all be a lot poorer if they weren’t.

November 28, 2015 3:44 am

Even thieves caught red handed always shout: “Hey I didn’t do it!”

November 28, 2015 3:50 am

“Most of the people going to Paris will know nothing about the climatology or climate science. They will not know or want to know that the science used as the basis for the conference is a creation of corrupted people who hide behind rules created for a completely different purpose.” ~ Dr. Tim Ball
This is perhaps the most important comment in your post, and perhaps the most important comment here at this site in a long while.
There is no open and honest science being done by any government employed (or funded) “scientist” in the USA nor in the western world that I am aware of. Marching in step with the prevailing consensus is the modern way to have a successful “science” career. This is shown most clearly in the “Dr.” M. Mann affair.
“Dr.” M. Mann went from being a nobody to being celebrated simply for an illicit graph created by all manner of anti-scientific means and methods. (Steve McIntyre may have been the best at proving that) But look what happened after we all knew Mann had committed blatant deception. He has never had to release the data and methods paid for by the public. He has never had to release the data and methods that are being used as part of the justification to destroy western industrialized society.
Now federal government departments are claiming that they should not show their data and methods to the public or even to the congressional oversight committee.
We live in a time when the appearance of science is everywhere but there is little real science. (thank the gods we have engineers)

Reply to  markstoval
November 28, 2015 10:46 am

I can tell you for a fact, you’re wrong, Mark.

Reply to  Pat Frank
November 28, 2015 12:38 pm

Well there is a fact filled response complete with links and citations … which obviously were cut off somehow.

asybot
Reply to  Pat Frank
November 29, 2015 4:18 am

, 10.46 am, “I can tell you for a fact”, show us the fact, please, as to why Mark is wrong?

Matt Collins
Reply to  markstoval
November 28, 2015 6:12 pm

I agree!
“Thank the gods we have engineers”
As one, I can’t help but be bewildered by the acceptance of the appearance of science and a complete lack of scientific understanding to endorse the BS.

Reply to  Matt Collins
November 28, 2015 8:15 pm

I too am an engineer. A recent engineering conference I attended made this proclamation in support of AGW.
http://www.pncwa.org/assets/Committees/Sustainability/pncwa%20climate%20change%20position%20paper%202015.pdf
I was not as shocked as I was disappointed when this position was made public by a national organization just a few weeks ago. You’ll note Phil Mote was one of the authoritative sources cited on this position paper used to justify its stance.

Reply to  dadodeaf
November 28, 2015 8:34 pm

I read the link.
Egads .. sorry you guys got sold out.
It could very well be that best professional judgement and an eye for the bottom line got sucked in by a need to meet the requirements of various agencies. Those agencies often set design standards to be met.
Sad little turn of events.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/11/01/executive-order-preparing-united-states-impacts-climate-change

asybot
Reply to  markstoval
November 29, 2015 4:19 am

CYA, Mark

Dodgy Geezer
November 28, 2015 3:53 am

…“Empty desk. Empty mind!”. I don’t adorn my work space with personal family images, pictures of friends etc. You know what I mean?…
Usually means that I’ve done my work for the day and am about to go home…

Patrick MJD
Reply to  Dodgy Geezer
November 28, 2015 4:09 am

Possibly. Not thought of it that way before.

chris moffatt
November 28, 2015 3:54 am

Most companies I ever worked for required me to acknowledge that anything I wrote or designed or created on their time with their resources belonged to them not to me. This was in fact nothing more than acknowledging what the law already said. What makes Magic Mike so different?

Patrick MJD
Reply to  chris moffatt
November 28, 2015 4:07 am

Once you sign that contract, it’s right there in the small print. What you do on their dime, is theirs. But with programming, there are several ways to skin a cat! Code may “do” the “same” thing…but the code will not “look” the same…unless you are a google code jockey.

dennisambler
November 28, 2015 4:05 am

The Figueres message is from the long term UN Agenda:
This is from the address by former prime minister of Norway, Gro Harlem Brundtland to the XIX Congress of the Socialist International, “Social Democracy in a Changing World”, 15 -17 September 1992
She is famous for the 1987 Brundtland Report, which led to the UN Commission on Sustainable Development, which led to Agenda 21 and the Millennium Development Goals. Here’s what she said in 1992:
“At the Rio Conference on Environment and Development (1992) it was made clear that we are heading towards a crisis of uncontrollable dimensions unless we change course.
Securing peace, sustainable development and democracy requires that nations, in their common interest, establish an effective system of global governance and security.
What we need is a new social contract. A new social contract must be based on our overriding principles – freedom, solidarity and justice.
To pursue social justice, freedom and democracy will require that we pool our collective experiences and national sovereignties.
There is no alternative to obligatory coordination of financial and monetary policies.”
Roll forward twenty years and we find the same language coming from the US Environmental Protection Agency Administrator, Lisa P Jackson.
20th January 2012
Keynote Remarks at the National Council for Science and the Environment’s “National Conference on Environment and Security”
“We have reached a point in human history where everyday activities – from our commerce to our transportation to our recreation – are affecting the health of our entire planet.
As Rio+20, the 20th anniversary of the 1992 Earth Summit, approaches in June, we have a chance to learn lessons, build partnerships and put in place innovative strategies that can reshape the economic and environmental future of our entire planet.
It is the rarest of opportunities to truly change the world, and make a difference that will benefit billions of people.”
And just the following month, UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon was also on message:
14 February 2012
Remarks to KPMG Summit: “Business Perspective for Sustainable Growth”
“Most of the world’s ecosystems are in decline. We are nearing the point of no return on climate change. You all understand the high stakes — for jobs, for social justice, for the Millennium Development Goals, for the health of the planet.
I am asking you to help the U.N. to help us protect planet earth
It is time to balance the global economy and build a stronger social compact… time for transformation.
Only with your strong support and leadership we can change and shape the world we want and we can make this world better for all.”

Patrick MJD
Reply to  dennisambler
November 28, 2015 4:31 am

Thankyou! That was a scary read…

Reply to  dennisambler
November 28, 2015 1:16 pm

Wow, that sucks. Between the link on Europe that I provide below and the read above annnnd the read on the CRED from Columbia, I’m about dosed up with reality.
Time to get my fishing gear together and hunt something big.

Reply to  dennisambler
November 29, 2015 6:42 am

The language coming of the UN, from the early days of Habitat II (which morphed into Agenda 21) have been heard long before the formation of the UN. Though seemingly a discourse against socialism and the like, in 1891 Pope Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum called for a new world order, and was the seed for many of today’s sound bites claiming “social justice” and “human rights” as it called for the consolidation of power in the power elite (both church and state).
http://time.com/3924637/pope-francis-encyclical-history/
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141661518/dont-mix-the-ecclesiastical-with-the-economical
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2011/right-diagnosis-deadly-cure
From the final link comes:
“Nonetheless, the document’s identification of loose credit with market liberty is the beginning of the end of the good sense here. From this point, we plunge straight away into a full endorsement of a *world central bank*, a *world political authority*, *taxes on financial trading*, and **heavy regulations**. The document doesn’t actually call for an end to the free market. On the contrary, it imagines that enlightened world planners will protect, guard, and even “create” what it calls “free and stable markets.”
and
“The Vatican seems to be growing in intellectual sophistication over worldly affairs. Now it gets economic matters half right. Sadly, being half right on something this important can lead to permanent calamity. To return to the original metaphor, the patient should thank the doctor for discovering the illness, but flee the poisonous “cure.””
Via Paris, we seem to be going into the “poisonous ‘cure'”.
Naw, such language calling for the consolidation of global power has been around for a while. Coming out of the same levels of office then and now.

Reply to  dennisambler
November 29, 2015 6:59 am

If you go back even farther than the history you cite, the same sentiments and even many of the same sound bytes are found from the late 1800’s coming out of Pope Leo XIII’s Rerum Novarum.
http://time.com/3924637/pope-francis-encyclical-history/
and more recently in referring to a document by former Pope Benedict calling for the consolidation of global power:
http://www.npr.org/2011/10/25/141661518/dont-mix-the-ecclesiastical-with-the-economical
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2011/right-diagnosis-deadly-cure
“Nonetheless, the document’s identification of loose credit with market liberty is the beginning of the end of the good sense here. From this point, we plunge straight away into a full endorsement of a world central bank, a world political authority, taxes on financial trading, and heavy regulations.”
and
“The Vatican seems to be growing in intellectual sophistication over worldly affairs. Now it gets economic matters half right. Sadly, being half right on something this important can lead to permanent calamity. To return to the original metaphor, the patient should thank the doctor for discovering the illness, but flee the poisonous “cure.””
It appears that via Paris we are about to embark on the “poisonous cure”

HocusLocus
November 28, 2015 4:45 am

If I have an idea and sell you the idea, you have the idea but I retain the idea. The minute you buy the idea it loses at least half the value. The challenge is how do you sell an idea and yet retain its value. How do you buy an idea and get intellectual and financial control?

This problem has been solved for thousands of years. A cultural framework of trust is built up in which a handshake is every bit as good as a contract, and most business transactions large and small are sealed with the casual handshake. The existence of this trust framework would be all that is necessary to convince you to ‘sell’ your idea.
While at the same time society is subjected to some very specific steerage that is occurring on a stealthy level. Thrill seeking is encouraged. For every device (eg car) there are ‘safe’ ones but also more expensive ‘thrilling’ ones, which if offered to one as a gift would never be refused. There are extreme sports that are dangerous, and corporate culture in the higher echelon glorifies these and even subsidizes them. Meanwhile in society at large petty crime is tolerated, access to deadly drugs is ensured and pervasive surveillance is kept to a minimum, tabloids are encouraged to fixate on deviant behavior that is harmful or deadly.
The purpose of the social engineering is to make the world a dangerous place, to provide cover for the activities of the ruthless. Once the deal has been made it is easy for your untimely death be made to appear as an accident, and your half of of the idea’s value reverts to me.
Public perception that successful people are predisposed to deviant behavior is essential. Also a blinding, puritanical sense of moral revulsion is cultivated with a jaded attitude — so when someone dies of a ‘drug overdose’, even if you personally knew them and are puzzled by it, you will accept it despite any emotional and desperate pleas of family and friends that all is not as it seems.
This idea, which helps you secure other ideas and cheat the intellectual property paradox, is so valuable that a movie was made with this very premise (Antitrust, 2001). The movie was not very popular or successful. Was it that certain events overshadowed its release, was it the cheesy script and acting… or was it that people cannot handle the truth?
This idea is for sale. If there are any takers, I’m willing to sell.

AthanaPotniya
Reply to  HocusLocus
November 29, 2015 11:21 am

The culture of distraction and destruction. We have sacrificed science for entertainment, and in so doing have turned the eyes of the majority away from covert government and military ops, world conspiracies of the wealthy elite, and other betrayals. The dumbing down of the base-line level educated and informed population is what enables them all to be made to believe whatever is repeated enough to them, including that deviant and treacherous, selfish, cut-throat behaviour is right, that it is strong and the only thing that leads naturally to success, and that anything else is foolish and weak. The “gold for me, communism for you” mentality ends up spreading among all who manage to make a decent buck, although the wealthiest view most of them with that same contempt with which they have learned to hold anyone “less fortunate” than themselves. There is balance, no moderation, no middle ground for them. Only extremes, only us and them. The only solution is to hijack the medium by which the destructive and distracting program is conveyed, and use it to tell the truth. Many have died trying, though it is becoming increasingly impossible even for the richest to cover up exposed instances of their wrong-doing. Another thing that can bite some of the least protected of them is to shock them out of their bubble world in which their money always gets them what they pay for – in other words, throw them in prison no matter with how much they can bribe you and with what they can threaten you. Humanity is at war with itself.

KenB
November 28, 2015 4:53 am

It used to be show me the money, Paris is GIVE me the money and promise me more!

November 28, 2015 6:18 am

Is it now considered okay for science to be corrupt? I asked that question this time last year and the fact that articles like this keep coming along is a comforting reply. At least someone, somewhere, still cares. Thank you Tim.
https://thepointman.wordpress.com/2014/12/11/is-it-now-considered-okay-for-science-to-be-corrupt/
Pointman

gnomish
November 28, 2015 6:41 am

“The minute you buy the idea it loses at least half the value.”
if suddenly 2 people have an idea that’s valuable for something, then my arithmetic adds up to doubling the value.
why in the world would i want an institution of thugs to go about telling people what they may or may not do, in any case – much less to establish monopolies, restrict supplies and enforce scarcities?

Reply to  gnomish
November 28, 2015 6:29 pm

I have ideas for paintings, I am not telling you what they are, when I put those ideas on canvas I hope those ideas become very valuable, any fool however, could then take a picture of my painting and make prints of it, that is called stealing, it was my work and my ideas that made what I am sure will be masterpieces, it isn’t anyone else’s right to use my idea and therefore decrease the value of what I created. As far as I know the idea for at least one of these paintings is unique, I have never seen anything like it, the idea itself has value and the idea adds value to the painting, one of the reason I was able to come up with this idea is because I spent a lot of time in art school, that training is valuable and therefore property. Even worthless junk is property and ownable. So even useless ideas are ownable.

halftiderock
November 28, 2015 6:55 am

Recommend chewing your way through “The Servile Mind”. We are outliers celebrating individualism and scientific morality here at WUWT. The political side is a slide toward oligarchy regardless of the underlying system. The observation becomes enlightening.

Bob Burban
Reply to  halftiderock
November 28, 2015 8:42 am

“Recommend chewing your way through “The Servile Mind”. ”
Your recommendation is appreciated … I’ve ordered a copy.

Reply to  halftiderock
November 28, 2015 1:13 pm

Reading it as well.
Thanks for the recommendation.

Matt Collins
Reply to  halftiderock
November 28, 2015 6:21 pm

I have often enjoyed the idea of being among outliers… Until this. My great hope rests on less curious folks who simply don’t buy into groupthink because of their rugged individualism. They rarely have time for Internet blogs…

Reply to  Matt Collins
November 28, 2015 7:21 pm

no group think among engineers though right ?
:::: delivered with a poking .. chiding … humor intended grin :::

troe
November 28, 2015 7:31 am

Wonder what is in John Beale’s EPA email stash. His importance as a teachable moment for the public makes me a big fan.
Prisoner Beale really shines as a symbol of what has gone wrong with the government science complex.

jsuther2013
November 28, 2015 8:06 am

Sorry to nitpick Dr. Ball, but your early sentence:
‘Rules designed to facilitate operations bring them to a halt when people work to rule.’
Should read:
‘Rules designed to facilitate operations bring those operations to a halt when people work to rule.’
The word ‘them’ in your sentence, refers back to the subject, ‘rules’. I am sure this was not your intent.

marque2
November 28, 2015 9:01 am

Kind of a silly analysis. Starting from the pen. First, I could also sell you the drawings for the pen and how to.construct a pen. This doesn’t reduce the value of anything. You would be able to construct a pen factory to compete against the original. This reduces.the value of how to make a pen,I suppose, but the real point is that these knowledge transfers have been occurring for 50000 years without problem, why is the transfer of knowledge a bad thing today?
By mere possession, you could also inspect your pen and find all the parts and start to make your own. In fact most people could do this and yet the pen industry is not going defunct, even though we all have the knowledge of how to build one.
This article is socialist nonsense.

Reply to  marque2
November 30, 2015 1:02 pm

A pen is a pen! Correct! But climate is nonsense when defined “as the statistical description in terms of the mean and variability of relevant quantities over a period of time ranging from months to thousands or millions of years.” (IPCC, AR5, 2013, Glossary, p. 1450). “You hardly heard the word professionally in the 1940’s. It was a layman’s word. Climatologists were the halt and the lame. And as for the climatologists in public service, in the British service you actually, had to be medically disabled in order to get into the climatological division! Climatology was a menial occupation that came on the pecking scale somewhat below the advertising profession.” http://oceansgovernclimate.com/climate-a-creation-of-corrupted-people-cop21/ What has changed since then?
When Tim Ball assumes that the “people going to Paris will know nothing about the climatology or climate science”, he is right. A pen which someone describes as a stick from few centimeters to millions of kilometers is wacky.” People making far reaching decision according this description presumably as well.

601nan
November 28, 2015 10:33 am

Smoke and mirrors and dog and pony show.
Pledges are not money but wishes. So France is a beneficiary of Gates “Pledges” will be rich in wishes and not Euros or even bitcoins.

jmorpuss
Reply to  601nan
November 28, 2015 4:30 pm

Wish in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one gets full first .

jmorpuss
November 28, 2015 12:22 pm

IPCC request that all papers submitted, regarding Climate Change, start with “Once upon a time “

Reply to  TomRude
November 28, 2015 1:09 pm

Thanks Tom
I recently learned about Mr Strong (RIP) from Dr Ball.
Unfortunately, as I read the comments in the link, it appears there will be a movement to make him immortal.
Difficult times in the world of clear headed thinking.

Knute
November 28, 2015 1:01 pm

Attempting to add a thread to Dr Ball’s piece.
This morning I read thru this guide. It’s nothing more than a ‘how to” convince the skeptic.
Made me mad. WUWT had an article on it back in May.
I also was sent the following by a friend.
I realize it may be very disturbing to folks, but I thought it important enough to include.
Please ignore if you think the CAGW ruse is unrelated to the upside down interpretations of world justice.
I find myself on the fast track of personally educating myself concerning the interconnected efforts to unseat freedom and personal accountability in the world.
Europe is in trouble.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11/11/watch-anti-migrant-video-going-viral-across-europe/

November 28, 2015 1:07 pm

Sorry, left out the link to the guidebook that made me mad.
http://guide.cred.columbia.edu/

Marcus
November 28, 2015 1:22 pm

WUWT is trying to smash all other blogs !!! 253,206,748 views….CNN says ” It’s not fair ” !!

Reply to  Marcus
November 28, 2015 1:57 pm

Marcus
Do you know if I can see google metrics about WUWT ?
If so, do you have a link to such a thing ?

AnonyMoose
November 28, 2015 3:05 pm

I think that the paragraph after the following is a quotation, but it is not displayed with the quotation markup: “There is another section in one of the emails from Wigley to Jones that reveals the thinking.”

November 28, 2015 4:44 pm

In the US, our FOIA Exemption #5 covers NOAA while the review process is underway. However, once the paper is published, that defense goes away. So Rep. Smith has a good chance of getting the materials in federal court. (Of course the Obama administration will refuse a subpoena from the House. My hunch is that executive privilege will not work on these facts.)
This site has some good case law:
http://www.foiadvocates.com/exemptions.html

LarryFine
November 28, 2015 10:49 pm

Criminology 101 says that a coverup proves criminal intent.

November 29, 2015 5:11 am

Thanks, Dr. Ball.
Never forget Climategate, it opened a view into the corruption of science that many scientists still refuse to acknowledge. It made the “mad scientist” real.

AthanaPotniya
November 29, 2015 11:39 am

The culture of distraction and destruction. Humanity is at war with itself. We have sacrificed science for entertainment, and in so doing have turned the eyes of the majority away from covert government and military ops, world conspiracies of the wealthy elite, and other betrayals.
The dumbing down of the base-line level educated and informed population is what enables them all to be made to believe whatever is repeated enough to them, including that deviant and treacherous, selfish, exploitive, cut-throat behaviour is right, that it is strong and the only thing that leads naturally to success, and that anything else is foolish and weak.
The “gold for me, communism for you” mentality ends up spreading among all who manage to make a decent buck, although the wealthiest view most of them with that same contempt with which they hold anyone “less fortunate” than themselves. There is no balance, no moderation, no middle ground for them. Only extremes, only “us and them”.
The solution is to hijack the medium by which the distracting and destructive programming is conveyed, and to use that media to tell the truth. Many have died trying, but it is becoming increasingly impossible even for the richest to cover up exposed instances of their wrong-doing.
Another thing that can bite some of the least protected of them is to shock them out of their bubble world in which their money always gets them what they pay for – in other words, throw them in prison no matter with how much they can bribe you and with what they can threaten you.
Of all among those who are at the top tiers in government, there is unlikely to be a single one that will prove him or her self to be honestly in favour of cleaning up the corrupted state of the world. They can all be bought or threatened or both. They also benefit too much from perpetuating the ignorance…
However, I challenge any one of them with the power and money to make themselves into our historical political “heroes” to prove me wrong; resist with your life the egocentric, personal career-building hype that centres around making a personal mark on the world rather than on enabling everyone to run it together.

Doug Wenzel
November 30, 2015 6:05 am

I am shocked that these “scientists” get away with this. Who writes the generous employment and grant contracts? Other than the academic credit of authorship, why isn’t every part of work done on the government dime either Public Domain, or at the very least, a work for hire, with patent and copyright assignment to the government or those that funded the research, etc.
Besides how can we ever test, and attempt to replicate, without data, algorithms for models, etc. Otherwise, it’s just unverifiable smoke and mirrors to justify that the sky is falling, so they need more grant money, plus the right to tell you how to live your life; and the operative word is YOU – they get to keep their cushy junkets to conferences; you should feel guilty for traveling in cattle class for a few days at a three star resort.
I’ll start believing it’s a crisis, when those who claim it’s a crisis start holding megaconferences via WebEx and Telepresence.