Claim: Social cost of climate change too low, Stanford scientists say

The ‘social cost’ of carbon dioxide emissions may not be $37, as previously estimated by a recent US government study, but $220. From the Stanford School of Engineering

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This image shows the economic growth for nations has historically fluctuated over time. A new Stanford study suggests the long-term impacts of climate change could perturb GDP growth rates even further. Credit: Delavane Diaz

The economic damage caused by a ton of CO2 emissions-often referred to as the “social cost of carbon-could actually be six times higher than the value that the United States uses to guide current energy regulations, and possibly future mitigation policies, Stanford scientists say.

A recent U.S. government study concluded, based on the results of three widely used economic impact models, that an additional ton of CO2 emitted in 2015 would cause US$37 worth of economic damages. These damages are expected to take various forms, including decreased agricultural yields and harm to human health related to climate change.

But according to a new study, published online this week in the journal Nature Climate Change, the actual cost could be much higher. “We estimate that the social cost of carbon is not $37, as previously estimated, but $220,” said study coauthor Frances Moore, a PhD candidate in the Emmett Interdisciplinary Program in Environment and Resources in Stanford’s School of Earth Sciences.

Based on the findings, countries may want to increase their efforts to curb greenhouse gas emissions, said study coauthor Delavane Diaz, a PhD candidate in the Department of Management Science and Engineering. “If the social cost of carbon is higher, many more mitigation measures will pass a cost-benefit analysis,” Diaz said. “Because carbon emissions are so harmful to society, even costly means of reducing emissions would be worthwhile.”

For their study, Moore and Diaz modified a well-known model for calculating the economic impacts of climate change, known as an integrated assessment model, or IAM. Their alternative formulation incorporated recent empirical findings suggesting that climate change could substantially slow economic growth rates, particularly in poor countries.

IAMs are important policy tools. Because they include both the costs and benefits of reducing emissions, they can inform governments about the optimal level of investment in emission reduction. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, for example, uses the $37 average value from three IAMs to evaluate greenhouse gas regulations. Canada, Mexico, the United Kingdom, France, Germany and Norway have also used IAMs to analyze climate and energy policy proposals.

While useful, IAMs have to make numerous simplifying assumptions. One limitation, for example, is that they fail to account for how the damages associated with climate change might persist through time. “For 20 years now, the models have assumed that climate change can’t affect the basic growth-rate of the economy,” Moore said. “But a number of new studies suggest this may not be true. If climate change affects not only a country’s economic output, but also its growth, then that has a permanent effect that accumulates over time, leading to a much higher social cost of carbon.”

In the new study, Moore and Diaz took a widely used IAM, called the Dynamic Integrated Climate-Economy (DICE) model, and modified it in three ways: they allowed climate change to affect the growth rate of the economy; they accounted for adaptation to climate change; and they divided the model into two regions to represent high- and low-income countries.

“There have been many studies that suggest rich and poor countries will fare very differently when dealing with future climate change effects, and we wanted to explore that,” Diaz said.

One major finding of the new study is that the damages associated with reductions in economic growth rates justify very rapid and very early mitigation that is sufficient to limit the rise of global temperature to two degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels. This is the target that some experts say is necessary to avert the worst effects of global warming.

“This effect is not included in the standard IAMs,” Moore said, “so until now it’s been very difficult to justify aggressive and potentially expensive mitigation measures because the damages just aren’t large enough.”

The pair’s IAM also shows that developing countries may suffer the most from climate change effects. “If poor countries become less vulnerable to climate change as they become richer, then delaying some emissions reductions until they are more fully developed may in fact be the best policy,” Diaz said. “Our model shows that this is a major uncertainty in mitigation policy, and one not explored much in previous work.”

The pair notes two important caveats to their work, however. First, the DICE model’s representation of mitigation is limited. It doesn’t take into account, for example, the fact that low-carbon technologies take time to develop and deploy.

Secondly, while it explores the effects of temperature on economic growth, the model does not factor in the potential for mitigation efforts to also impact growth.

“For these two reasons, the rapid, near-term mitigation level found in our study may not necessarily be economically optimal”, Diaz said. “But this does not change the overall result that if temperature affects economic growth-rates, society could face much larger climate damages than previously thought, and this would justify more stringent mitigation policy.”

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Coach Springer
January 13, 2015 7:49 am

What made pre-industrial cold the standard? And who is to say that we haven’t yet reached an “optimum” around which we might naturally cycle by a couple of degrees up and down? (Say, that sounds like the history of earth.)

Ann Banisher
January 13, 2015 7:56 am

Take a graph of countries and compare CO2 output/capita (proxy for fossil fuel use) with standard of living, life expectancy.
It would seem in the real world the social cost is in NOT using fossil fuels.

January 13, 2015 7:58 am

This lie built climate change fraud, look at it this way. The fail by the US in the war on terror is in large part due to not being able or willing to name the issue and deal with it from there.
Same here with global warming, climate change, fear CO2, those are not the issues/problems, it is the
REDISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH operation that is useing the fudged, made up data to push forward on the real goal.

HankHenry
January 13, 2015 8:00 am

Look to the past if you want to understand and see the social benefits of a ton of carbon emissions. We don’t want to go back to a time when housework was so onerous and time consuming that women work expected NOT to be in the workforce. Social benefits have to be way over $220 per ton.

Robert W Turner
January 13, 2015 8:20 am

That is an amazing graph but it would be even better if you were to draw the face of Satan in the condensation. Take out the horizontal lines too, those only distract from the confusion of the graph. Then a dead polar bear should be photo shopped in.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Robert W Turner
January 13, 2015 10:44 am

and a wind turbine blowing out those smog lines

Robert W Turner
Reply to  Bubba Cow
January 13, 2015 11:58 am

With a unicorn farting out a rainbow in the clear sky behind the wind turbine.

Go Home
January 13, 2015 8:25 am

Just need to remind the folks that this administration is robbing social security funds to fund there war on global climate.

Bubba Cow
Reply to  Go Home
January 13, 2015 10:47 am

didn’t know that, but not surprised. I haven’t received my income yet this month.

jaypan
January 13, 2015 8:29 am

6:21
Bloody crusades have been done by christianists, nothing to do with christians.
Just as islamism has nothing to do with islam.

Patrick
Reply to  jaypan
January 13, 2015 9:00 am

And Judaism has nothing to do with Jews? I think you might be alottle bit wrong there!

ferd berple
Reply to  jaypan
January 13, 2015 10:48 am

Did Christ or Buddha ever call for anyone to be executed?

Patrick
Reply to  jaypan
January 13, 2015 11:39 am

Thats not in question. No-one knows what they said. In terms of “Jesus”, “his writings” appeared ~70 years after his death.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  jaypan
January 13, 2015 12:03 pm

The 1st Crusades were ordered by the Pope…so I don’t know where you get the idea that it had nothing to do with Christians. They started as a pilgrimage and ended in war in order to reclaim the “holy land” after they were captured during Muhammad’s conquests of the 7th century.

James Hein
Reply to  Robert W Turner
January 13, 2015 3:42 pm

Excellent revisionist history there Robert.
The First Crusade was a defensive action in response to the Caliphate attacking towards France through Spain as part of the grand expansion of Islam. It was the later Crusades that fall within your explaination and they may not have happened at all if not for the cause of the First. Ignoring the real causes does however make it so much easier to criticise those ‘nasty’ Christians.

Patrick
Reply to  Robert W Turner
January 14, 2015 7:24 am

Well said James!

SAMURAI
January 13, 2015 8:33 am

Depriving the world of cheap fossil fuel energy in exchange for more expensive, less efficient, less reliable, highly intermittent and highly diffuse alternative energy sources like wind and solar is economic suicide, especially if other manufacturing powerhouses like China and India increase their competitive advantage by not adopting such insane CO2 sequestration policies.
Moreover, depriving developing 3rd-world economies access to cheap fossil fuels will kill millions and prevent any possible economic advancement.
How can these “scientists” assign CAGW “damages” when there hasn’t been any increase in severe weather trends, sea level rise stuck at 6″ per century for the past 200 years, approximately just 0.2C of CO2 induced warming since 1850, U.S. crop yields have increased 80% just since 1980, doubling CO2 to 560ppm will increase crop yields 50%, higher CO2 levels will enable plants to thrive on less water, etc….
Just where, exactly, will all this CAGW economic damage come from? The DICE and IAM models are a little vague on this point…
The empirical evidence is now suggesting actual ECS will be perhaps 50% to 75% less than the 2C target the CAGW advocates wish to achieve after wasting $10’s of trillions on senseless CO2 sequestration policies.
How does this make any sense?

William Astley
January 13, 2015 8:33 am

If one removes logic and reason from the analysis, the ‘analysis’ should no longer be called ‘analysis’.
The warmists are at their wits end as they continue try to create fantasy tales based on ‘scientific’ climate models which are obviously incorrect to convince us to spend trillions of dollars which our countries do not have on green scams that do not work, to reduce the emissions of a gas that is absolutely essential for life on this planet, to stop warming that is not occurring.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/01/25/yet-another-study-shows-lower-climate-sensitivity/
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/17/temperature-models-vs-temperature-reality-in-the-lower-troposphere/
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-hans-von-storch-on-problems-with-climate-change-models-a-906721.html
Roy Spencer: Ocean surface temperature is not warming in the tropics.
http://www.drroyspencer.com/wp-content/uploads/TMI-SST-MEI-adj-vs-CMIP5-20N-20S-thru-2015.png

Reply to  William Astley
January 13, 2015 10:19 am

Willis has elegantly shown with his colored scatter plots of Erbes (?) data that the maximum temperature that open ocean SSTs can achieve is ~31C. The temperature of Lagos Nigeria is the same, about 28-30, as it was when I was there in the mid 1960s which I believe was a cold period globally. The Intertropical convegence zone has likely never been hotter than that – it is ‘governed’ at this upper limit – not so the lower limit though!

CaligulaJones
January 13, 2015 8:37 am

Those of us who know our bible would point out that the one of the names of the big guy is “I AM”…probably a coincidence. I hope.
BTW, lovely that this is coming along, as here in Ontario, Canada, our recently re-elected corrupt to the core Liberal government has floated a trial balloon concerning a carbon tax. Gas prices are down, doncha know, have to get money to kick back to our corporate friends from SOMEWHERE. Why not try the taxpayer?

PeterK
Reply to  CaligulaJones
January 13, 2015 8:52 pm

CaligulaJones: Can’t you get it right – it’s not a ‘carbon tax – it’s a neutral ‘Revenue Tool’ – money that should not be in your pocket.

Lancifer
January 13, 2015 8:41 am

So lets see,
(220 $/ton CO2) X (3.6 X10^9 tons CO2 produced) = 79.2 X 10^12
So these PhD students have justified spending 79.2 TRILLION dollars in CO2 taxes to offset the “social costs” of CO2.
Yeah, that’s reasonable.
How in the name of Zeus did this lunacy get past their graduate advisers, let alone the sacred and infallible process of “peer review”?

Newsel
Reply to  Lancifer
January 13, 2015 10:23 am

With you on “how in the….” comment…peer reviewed hockey stick type lunacy. Hope their Oral exam is on YouTube.

lancifer666
January 13, 2015 8:42 am

Oops forgot units.
79.2 X 10^12 FRIGGING DOLLARS!

Reply to  lancifer666
January 13, 2015 9:37 am

$220/ton X 3.6 X 10 ^ 9 tons = $792 X 10 ^ 9 = $792 Billion.

David Smith
January 13, 2015 8:45 am

Models.
That’s all I have to say.

January 13, 2015 8:54 am

Incredibly silly!
in fact the World development has been, and still is, directly linked to the use of energy, 86% of which is nowadays supplied by fossil fuels.
For each ton of carbon burnt, the World GDP increases by 150 US$, and this in a very tight correlation since more than 50 years.
http://climate.mr-int.ch/images/graphs/gdp_vs_carbon.png
Any reduction of the use of energy means a lack of development opportunity for everybody on this planet. Alternative sources, substitutes, are ridiculously anecdotal, and efficiency improvements need time, investment and … energy.
Another study should be made about the “Social cost of misanthropic climate activism”

Reply to  Michel
January 13, 2015 9:53 am

I’d like to make three points.
Firstly, the English word needed in the graph is ‘Cumulative’, not ‘Cumulated’.
Secondly, thanks for telling us that you got the data from the World Bank. But could you please link us to the document where the World Bank said that, so we can replicate your work?
Finally, thanks for this graph, If it does hold up to replication, it’s a serious and major contribution to the discussion.

Reply to  Leo Morgan
January 13, 2015 10:46 am

Thank you, correction already done.
The GNP data data was downloaded from the World bank: http://data.worldbank.org/ You can get all sorts of time series there, one of which is GDP at constant 2005 US$
The carbon emissions are from CDIAC at http://cdiac.ornl.gov/trends/emis/overview_2010.html

Jimbo
Reply to  Leo Morgan
January 13, 2015 12:37 pm

How does the World Bank think China managed to lift 500 million people out of poverty? Wind and solar? Of course not.
http://www.worldbank.org/en/country/china/overview

Reply to  Michel
January 13, 2015 10:41 am

The fact that the world population has increased by about 140% in the same period seems to have been forgotten by the world bank.
We might as well link the GDP growth to total global water use and claim that every ton of extra water used means an increase of X dollars in GDP, which would also be a correct statement when just looked at those two parameters.
Fossil fuels or water do not create GDP, people do.

Robert W Turner
Reply to  outtheback
January 13, 2015 12:43 pm

“Fossil fuels or water do not create GDP, people do.” What a ludicrous statement!

ferdberple
Reply to  outtheback
January 13, 2015 8:49 pm

reminds me of Hilarious Clinton’s famous “don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs,”

ferd berple
Reply to  Michel
January 13, 2015 10:55 am

the graph shows that $50 trillion dollars benefit was received from 350 billion tons of carbon.
= $142.86 BENEFIT per ton of carbon.
So, it would appear that not only does CO2 drive surface temperatures, it also drives the world economy.

ferd berple
Reply to  ferd berple
January 13, 2015 11:05 am

ps: if the social cost of carbon is really $220/ton, the the true benefit of carbon must be:
= $142.86 NET BENEFIT + $220 SOCIAL COST = $362.86 GROSS BENEFIT per ton of carbon.
Otherwise, if carbon was only a cost, then for every ton of carbon emitted the worlds GDP would shrink. But it continues to grow, showing that CO2 is thus delivering a net benefit

Reply to  Michel
January 13, 2015 12:19 pm

Michel hits upon the very heart of what the Red-greens are after. World-wide economic growth is tightly dependent on energy use growth (of which carbon emissions are a central metric). And human population growth is tightly coupled to economic growth. Having one enables the other. And to the Greens intent on population control that means economic growth must be limited by any means. The green socialists have seized upon Climate Change with CO2 their metric as the means to achieve that end.
Everyone who has seen the words of Ehrlich and Holdren understand the true purpose of the Climate Change Fraud is to throttle industrial development, which means human population growth will decline due to disease, starvation, and ensuing wars. In doing so, they see the resulting death and deprivations that will occur in the developing world as a necessary means to an end.
John Holdren (Obama’s Science advisor) and Paul Ehrlich laid it all out in 1974:
http://mahb.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/1974_holdren_ehrlich_humanpopglobalEnviron.pdf
A position which they must still believe, but at least for Holdren, he cannot openly express that today.
Jonathan Gruber was correct in that is how Progressives operate. They must lie to hide the from the general “stupid” public the true intentions of their policies. The public must not be allowed to understand the true costs of their Climate Change policy prescriptions.

knr
January 13, 2015 9:07 am

‘this week in the journal Nature Climate Change,’
So a bunch of highly politicized individuals in a journal that owns its very existence to a particular idea do ‘research’; which is nothing but worthless models that supports their political outlook, and the journal’s purpose.
In more news, bears find woods a good place to deposit their personal waste, and the Pope tells us that good really exists.
They must spend every day thanking god that they can get away with such BS and still get paid.

Brad Rich
January 13, 2015 9:10 am

Why did they stop at $220? Conversely: Is there an integrated benefits assessment? For example: there has been storm loss (Sandy, Haiyan, Hagupit) but what about the lack of loss from relative calm in the hurricanes and typhoons? There have been droughts and floods, but what about the increased crop yields? Truth is, they can’t blame every loss on humans any more than they can attribute every benefit to humans (though there are a lot of benefits!).

Dawtgtomis
January 13, 2015 9:15 am

Has anyone in the “Science Must Save The World Society” considered the cost/benefit ratio of protecting the power grids from a geomagnetic event of ‘Carrington magnitude’ or higher? Time truly is running out, by the laws of probability, and the potential impact is devastation to Humanity within a very short period.
http://www.infowars.com/after-several-near-misses-experts-warn-the-next-carrington-event-will-plunge-us-back-into-the-dark-ages/

Alcheson
January 13, 2015 9:18 am

Just imagine how enormous our economy (and the worlds economy) would be right now if they had banned CO2 emmissions starting back in the 1850s. Everyone on the planet would be billionaires by now according to their calculatioins. At $220 a ton, and multi-trillions of tons over that time frame…. wow!
/sarc (in case you were in doubt).

ferd berple
Reply to  Alcheson
January 13, 2015 11:01 am

if we could only find someone willing to pay us $220 for every ton of carbon we don’t emit. perhaps we can tax the termites. they are the largest CO2 producers on the planet. they should be the ones footing the bill. even china looks good compared to the termites. perhaps this explains why the termites continue to boycott climate conferences. they don’t want obama to subject them to the horrors of “shame and blame”.

Chip Javert
Reply to  ferd berple
January 13, 2015 5:03 pm

ferd
Whoa, big guy.
This is my 1st year end with residential solar PV, which has generated a certificate for my 9,500 pounds of carbon offset, which I can sell (I’ll inform the group of the price when I actually do the sale).
Needless to say, I’m hoping to get a zillion dollars per ton. I think I need to hire me on of those Stanford dudes.

KTM
January 13, 2015 9:20 am

They cost of a butterfly flapping its wings could be as high as one Bajillion dollars. Time to exterminate all butterflies.

Tom J
January 13, 2015 9:23 am

‘…countries may want to increase their efforts to curb greenhouse gas emissions, said study coauthor Delavane Diaz, a PhD candidate in the Department of Management Science and Engineering. “If the social cost of carbon is higher, many more mitigation measures will pass a cost-benefit analysis,” Diaz said.’
A sense of responsibility (towards the American worker) requires me, Delavane Diaz, to inform you that if your research funding, and thus your income, is reduced to a much lower level then your continued employment at the taxpayer financed watering trough might actually pass a cost-benefit analysis. Additionally, through the subsequent reduction in policy recommendations that will ensue, I believe that the “social cost” will be considerably lower too.
P.S. I suspect you haven’t lived long enough to actually appreciate what real (and not dreamed up) social costs truly are, and what they actually look like. Not what you think. And not a pretty sight.

George Lawson
January 13, 2015 9:25 am

They must have worked fantastically hard to come up with that increased figure from $37 to $220 – the cost for each of us if we ignore her wild model projections. How on earth did her fellow warmists get the figure so wrong in the first place? This is surely going to create some squabbling amongst the Church of AGW believers. Anyway, I’ve put the money aside just in case.

Nigel in Toronto
January 13, 2015 9:31 am

“so until now it’s been very difficult to justify aggressive and potentially expensive mitigation measures because the damages just aren’t large enough.”
S, let’s increase the predicted damages! Justification now justified! Voila!

Phil Cartier
January 13, 2015 9:31 am

The money quote is: ““If poor countries become less vulnerable to climate change as they become richer, then delaying some emissions reductions until they are more fully developed may in fact be the best policy,” Diaz said.” This directly contradicts some of the major conclusions in the article summary, particularly for poor countries. The costs of mitigating the paltry emissions in less developed countries will cause much more damage than any possible effects of CO2. In fact, as a couple others pointed out, the best mitigation/adaptation strategy to to help less developed countries develop as fast as possible to limit population growth and CO2. Once they reach a certain level of development all sorts of problems can be alleviated or better coped with. The social costs of aggressive, early CO2 reductions are much higher than any future costs associated with CO2

Louis
January 13, 2015 9:34 am

so until now it’s been very difficult to justify aggressive and potentially expensive mitigation measures because the damages just aren’t large enough.

Until now? What did I miss? What large damages from climate change are they talking about that now justify expensive mitigation? They mention “decreased agricultural yields and harm to human health related to climate change.” But when did those occur? You would think such events would have been reported on the news.
Oh I see, it all came from a model. They’ve been playing with loaded DICE again. Does their model even allow for the possibility that more CO2, and a little warming, might be net beneficial to the planet? If all these “damages” came not from observations but from their model, then the easiest way to fix the problem is to fix their model, no expensive mitigation measures necessary. If these people really think the output from models is the same as reality, then I suggest we have a model print their salaries. They obviously can’t tell the difference between monopoly money and the genuine thing.

markopanama
Reply to  Louis
January 13, 2015 4:55 pm

I put this in a comment above, but it’s worth repeating. From the DICE user manual h/t to Fernando:
The DICE model views the economics of climate change from the perspective of neoclassical economic growth theory (see particularly Solow 1970). In this approach, economies make investments in capital, education, and technologies, thereby reducing consumption today, in order to increase consumption in the future. The DICE model extends this approach by including the “natural capital” of the climate system. In other words, it views concentrations of GHGs as negative natural capital, and emissions reductions as investments that raise the quantity of natural capital (or reduce the negative capital). By devoting output to emissions reductions, economies reduce consumption today but prevent economically harmful climate change and thereby increase consumption possibilities in the future.
“Concentrations of GHG are negative capital” and “By devoting output to emissions reductions, economies reduce consumption today but prevent economically harmful climate change and thereby increase consumption possibilities in the future.” You get what you ask for.

Reply to  markopanama
January 14, 2015 12:19 am

Who decides which capital is positive, which his negative?
Are externalities, if existing, always negative?
Is investing in a law firm something positive while it exclusively deals with negative aspects of human relations?
What about investing in road construction, in car making, in crop processing, in health services, + or- ?
Is investing in thinking (not a monetary investment) positive as long as you think like me, and negative when your views are the opposite of mine?
All this pseudo-objectivism is ultimately absurd.

Tom J
January 13, 2015 9:39 am

Dynamic Integrated Climate-Economy (DICE).
Sounds a little like they’re saying this model’s a gamble? Let’s roll ’em.