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Yesterday I was privileged to be cc’d in some communications between Steve Milloy (of junkscience.com) and UCLA. The communications dealt with yet another false claim of Michael Mann being a “Nobel Prize Winner” in an announcement about an upcoming talk of his, as seen below:
Milloy wrote:
From: Steve Milloy
Date: Monday, October 13, 2014 at 1:40 PM
To: Nancy
Subject: Request for correction of event promotion
Ms. Lee,
This UCLA promotion incorrectly promotes Michael E.Mann as a Nobel Prize winner (see highlighted text).
Mann is not a Nobel laureate and did not share the Prize.
I request that you correct this error,
Thank you for your attention,
Steve Milloy
Potomac, MD
The reply from Ms. Lee said:
From: Nancy LeeSubject: Re: Request for correction of event promotion
Date: October 13, 2014 at 9:14:09 PM EDT
To: Steve Milloy
Thanks for pointing out this error, Steve. We have corrected the information in the program description online and on-site.
—
Nancy Lee
Manager, Public Relations
HAMMER MUSEUM
10899 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA 90024
(310) xxx-xxxx
Good for her, and +10 to Steve Milloy.
This is how it reads today on their website.
Nobel prizes; easy come, easy go.
Mann’s talk at UCLA is on Thursday Oct 23, 2014 7:30PM, and I doubt that it will be any different from the one I saw in Bristol, replete with incomplete data and cherry picked time periods to ignore “the pause”. If anyone wants to go to ask questions, here is the address:
Hammer Museum
10899 Wilshire Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA
90024
ALL HAMMER PUBLIC PROGRAMS ARE FREE. Tickets for assigned seating in the Billy Wilder Theater are required and available at the Box Office one hour before each program. Early arrival is recommended. Tickets are available one per person on a first come, first served basis.
I expect Mann to continue to do in LA what has become his well-known intellectual modus operandi. Namely, I expect him to shun skeptics because he fears exposure of his innate intellectual weakness.
John
Nobel Peace Prize=Liberal of the Year
“Nobel Peace Prize=Liberal of the Year”
No action required. Sentiments alone are enough. 😉
Political Junkie,
Good point. Here is an update.
After Judith Curry wrote the OP-ED about her new paper, Lewis & curry (2014) in the WSJ David Appell commented on her blog incessantly. Here is an example via his first of many repetitive comments.
“Judith wrote (in the op-ed):
“…our calculations used the same data for the effects on the Earth’s energy balance of changes in greenhouse gases, aerosols and other drivers of climate change given by the IPCC’s latest report.”
But you’re well aware improved datasets have come out since the 5AR, particularly Cowtan & Way and the recent changes in Southern Ocean heat content.
So how can you write this op-ed, not cite them or even mention them, and pretend they don’t exist? It makes you looks biased.”
http://judithcurry.com/2014/10/09/my-op-ed-in-the-wall-street-journal-is-now-online/#comments
I think we can all ask David, “Have you contacted Mann about not using the most current data in his presentation, including Cowtan & Way (2013)?”
Well David? If not, it makes you look biased…
How appropriate that the Hammer Museum is the venue.
Warren Buffett once described Armand Hammer using the following:
When he was quiet, he was stealing
when he was talking, he was lying.
In the UK, Hammer productions have traditionally been associated with a brand of cheesy, but often entertaining, horror films: “Hammer House of Horror.” I liked many of them because they were not genuinely frightening, nor even alarming.
To be fair to Mann , given his limited abilities how else could he feed his massive ego if not be inventing BS, therefore what choice does he have?
Appropriate venue….
“Hammer misled the public by implying that he had personally purchased the Codex for $5.8 million from Christie’s at auction. As it turns out, the funds were obtained from Occidental Oil not only to purchase the Codex, but also to build the Hammer Museum [4]. Kaufman designed The Hammer Museum to be a high revenue hot spot for Los Angeles residents to throw extravagant parties. A class action law suit was filed against Occidental in 1989 by its shareholders who claimed that this was not a proper use of company funds and that the Codex belonged to the shareholders [3]. Occidental had used approximately $96 million in corporate funds for the Hammer Museum [4].
After Hammer’s death, Occidental had more freedom to cut its losses with the museum and get its shareholders’ support back. Occidental brought in the University of California Los Angeles to manage the Hammer Museum for the next 99 years [5]. The Hammer Museum was stripped of its “Armand Hammer mausoleum” qualities, and instead became more of a cultural center for the Los Angeles community. This included selling the Codex for $32 million at Christie’s to Microsoft’s Bill Gates [8].
Given the fact that a publicly traded company actually purchased the Leonardo Da Vinci Codex with shareholder money, and built the museum to house it in with shareholder money, I personally do not believe that the sale of the Codex was unethical. In light of everything that Armand Hammer did in his lifetime, this sale is likely the most ethical thing his name is affiliated with. UCLA was involved with the Hammer Museum to calm Occidental shareholders, and made the museum a place where contemporary art is welcome.”
Lisa Gerben
“A place where contemporary art is welcome.” 🙂
I think you’re skating on mighty thin ice with this one. What zillionaire (apart from members of the Lucky Sperm Club who inherited it) didn’t lie, cheat, and steal to get to the top of the mountain?
Given that Billy Wilder directed Some Like It Hot, perhaps Dr. Mann could adopt the same tagline to finish his speech in the Billy WIlder Theater that Wilder used to finish the film: “Well, nobody’s perfect.”
M Courtney October 14, 2014 at 7:18 am
In fairness to the EU: there has been no major war (beyond a few Troubles) between member states
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That was on account of NATO, not the EU.
Through my taxes (Australian Institute of Sports) I contributed to the receiving of numerous gold medals at the last Olympics. I’ll add that to my resume.
We would all have to become very selective though in which areas we take credit in our resumes. Our taxes also contributed to the the rescue of the intrepid ship of fools stuck in the Antarctic ice, destroying the scientific seasons of other nations as well as a bill for millions of dollars.
“Michael Mann loses the Nobel Prize – again”
This headline is Steyn-worthy. What a sad, pathetic image it conjures.
Trenberth is also still claiming to be a Nobel Laureate but seems to go unchallenged.
Anthony, if you learn that he’s coming to Seattle, I do hope you’ll post an item. Thanks much.
OK, Nancy Lee, PR at Hammer, at least you publish an email address ( if not a direct one ), so how about insuring the moderator, Ian Masters, asks one or two current climate questions , particularly of Mann. I see that Ian Masters hides his direct email address, perhaps he can be reached thru KPFK FM ?
“Why do you not use the most current data in your speaking presentations, including Cowtan & Way (2013) ?”
info@hammer.ucla.edu
talkback@kpfk.org
Both these individuals should be thoroughly “you have mail” prior to the event !
It would be nice is someone from this blog went along and actually asked a question.
The Annals of Improbable Research should award Mann the Ig Nobel Prize so he would stop lying about his Nobel Prize. I suspect the Ig Nobel winners would be insulted if Mann join their ranks.
It would be nice is someone from this blog went along and actually asked a question.
If he comes to Seattle and I have adequate notice, I’ll definitely do it.
Eckwurzel? Perhaps a descendant of the famous Wurzel Gummidge – I wonder if she has inherited his keen intelligence?
For those of you who play golf there is an analogy here.
Every golfer knows someone who is a habitual cheat, not only that but we tell our friends to keep an eye on him, the cheat,as he is prone to misquote a score, to “find” balls nowhere near where his ball landed etc etc.
The thing is , absolutely no one is going to report this guy , because if we spotted something we need to have a witness who also spotted it and have absolutely no doubt in our joint minds that the guy was cheating. If you call out a cheat , you get all the bluster , “you are wrong” “no i, never” “it was,nt a ball it was a handkerchief i dropped to mark the place ” and then you get told that if you so much as mention this to anyone you will be sued for defamation of character. If you report someone to the club secretary you are told that we cannot take this forward without at least 2 witnesses. So cheats do prosper and threaten any attempt at exposure with the law.
The strange thing is ,the cheats do not do particularly well in competitions, it is more a saving face than winning mentality although there are of course some exceptions who will do anything to win.
I wonder if Mr Mann plays golf?
I’ve heard that Obama plays golf…
Well you know what they say about the Nobel peace prize now a days, “It’s not about what you know, it’s about who you…know”.
Just for future reference (as this will undoubtedly occur again), the IPCC released a statement in December of 2012 (http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/nobel/Nobel_statement_final.pdf) that clarifies this issue as follows:
!The prize was awarded to the IPCC as an organization, and not to any individual associated with the IPCC. Thus it is incorrect to refer to any IPCC official, or scientist who worked on IPCC reports, as a Nobel laureate or Nobel Prize winner. It would be correct to describe a scientist who was involved with AR4 or earlier IPCC reports in this way: “X contributed to the reports of the IPCC, which was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007.”
The IPCC leadership agreed to present personalized certificates “for contributing to the award of the Nobel Peace Prize for 2007 to the IPCC” to scientists that had contributed substantially to the preparation of IPCC reports. Such certificates, which feature a copy of the Nobel Peace Prize diploma, were sent to coordinating lead authors, lead authors, review editors, Bureau members, staff of the technical support units and staff of the secretariat from the IPCC’s inception in 1988 until the award of the prize in 2007. The IPCC has not sent such certificates to contributing authors, expert reviewers and focal points.
!
Everyone who received a “replica diploma” (and there were about 800 recipients) was given this information.
The Nobel Committee does not recognize Mann as a peace prize recipient. Therefore he may not claim that he is, opinions to the contrary by the IPCC notwithstanding.
I have two points about this particular prize.
1) it was a peace prize, not science.
2) there was a far superior candidate for the prize that year. She risked her life on a daily basis and rescued over 2,500 children from Polish ghettos during WWII.
From Snopes: TRUE
Origins: On 12 May 2008, Irena Sendlerowa (commonly known as Irena Sendler) passed away of pneumonia at the age of 98 in Warsaw. Irena has often been referred to as “the female Oskar Schindler” in her native Poland for her daring and ingenuity in saving the lives of more than 2,500 Jews (most of them children) in German-occupied Poland during World War II. Unlike Oskar Schindler, whose story was the subject of the Academy Award-winning 1993 film Schindler’s List, Irena Sendler was a relatively unknown figure to the world at large until 1999, when four Kansas high school students wrote and performed “Life in a Jar,” a play about Irena’s life-saving efforts in the Warsaw Ghetto.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp#ZDDSuPS6SmE3xdUb.99
Instead the award, which is supposed to be for lifetime achievements in the struggle for peace, was awarded to the producers of a dishonest movie. Irene died the following year and any chance for the well deserved award died with her.
Read her story on Snopes and ask yourself what kind of BS political agenda would convince people to award a lifetime achievement prize to a single disingenuous movie and trump the remarkable true story of this humble woman. The Nobel Prize committee proved it’s political agenda when Obama later won the prize.
I was in a dive bar one evening during happy hour and Mann walked in and ordered a drink. He noticed that I was the only other person in there and in moment of unprecedented generosity, he bought a round for the house. I cringed because in the bar a round for the house earns a ring of the ship’s bell behind the bar. I explained that I preferred the peaceful atmosphere and that the bell gives me a headache. Mann nodded and said, “I won’t ring the bell”
So we enjoyed our drinks in tranquil conditions.
The bartender, recognizing Mann’s compassion and understanding gave the great Man a bag of peanuts explaining, “here’s a prize for not ringing that bell.”
So, the No Bell Peace Prize was born. And Mann did win it.
“Despite the overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is a danger to the planet…”
Someone better contact them again. That statement is not correct. The unpublished paper on which the claims of consensus are based never asked if the scientists believe that the warming was a danger to the planet.
Does anyone in the AGW cabal actually know what the consensus is? Every person who cites the consensus has a different definition. How can they have a consensus if nobody even knows the details? The first question asked was if they believed the earth had warmed. Since it had the scientists answered correctly. Then they were asked if they thought man may have some influence on the climate. It was not quantified. No mention of danger to the planet.i know, they sent one of the questionnaires to me.
Mann is going to speak at the Armand Hammer (Occidental Petroleum) museum? Am I reading that right?