Wow, this is just nuts. I mean really, really, “Trenberth’s missing heat is going to jump out of the ocean and get you” kind of nuts.
The website scaredscientists.com looks like this at right.
Like the wailing we saw in the hand written letters of feelings last week, this one is also from Australia. Personally, I think this is some sort of mental disorder on display coming to light because Australia has done an about-face on the carbon tax and have put a lot of climate change programs on the back burner or eliminated them altogether.
And of course, there’s an “ACT NOW” button, which is a code word to send money, but there is no mention of what that money will be used for. A list of “fears” follows with comments by me interspersed in blue.
They write in the About page:
A quick chat to the experts and it’s immediately apparent that climate change is not only real: it’s serious. Very serious.
But this isn’t what scares scientists. They’re afraid humanity will continue to bury its head in the sand; instead of facing its greatest challenge head on.
Scientists don’t want to be right, they want to be wrong. Research shows this is our last decade to slow climate change before it’s too late. The science community believe if people are willing, we can transform the current trajectory from one of fear to one of hope. But the science can only take us so far. If we want a safe and sustainable world, we need to take the facts seriously – and do what needs to be done to change them.
Source: http://scaredscientists.com/About
Here’s the big list of scared scientists:
WILL STEFFEN
Earth System Scientist
University of Florida, University of Missouri, Australian National University
FEAR: LOSS OF CONTROL OF THE CLIMATE SYSTEM
The climate is related to many parts of the Earth; the land, the ocean, the ice, the atmosphere. We’re noticing abrupt changes in all of these areas.
We’ll reach a point where we’ll lose control over the system. Right now, if we reduce our emissions, we can probably stabilise the system. If we push the climate too far, if we start losing ice too rapidly, start flipping things like the Amazon, then the internal dynamics of the climate will take over – and even if we pull emissions back, we won’t be able to stop very large changes – that’s my biggest fear.
The thing people don’t realise, is getting emissions down is not only feasible but economically promising and will actually lead to a better life. The narrative needs to change, it’s not all doom and gloom. Yes, it will be another massive transformation in human history, but it will lead to a cleaner environment, to more jobs, and an easier lifestyle.
We still have a chance to pull back climate change, but we need to act vigorously and we need to act soon.
(Funny, I never knew any scientist who said we were “in” control of the climate, much less lost control of it. The hubris on display here could fill a stadium.)
LESLEY HUGHES
Ecologist, Macquarie University, Sydney
FEAR: SPECIES EXTINCTION
My work on the potential impacts of climate change on species and ecosystems has made it clear that the human species is now threatened.
We need to acknowledge the time lag between what we do to the atmosphere and its impacts on the climate. What we do now, affects the climate decades into the future. This means we need to drastically cut our emissions, now and forever, to stabilise the climate in the second half of the century.
(Odd, she doesn’t seem frightened at all. Good luck stabilizing the climate though, because in the entire history of the planet, the climate has never been stable.)
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TIM FLANNERY
Mammologist, Palaeontologist
University of New South Wales,
Monash University, La Trobe University
FEAR: DISRUPTION OF GLOBAL CIVILISATION
Climate Science underestimated the pace of climate change, it was too conservative. We’re now having far more rapid change than originally projected. Change that if not slowed, will undoubtedly affect my children and my grandchildren.
There is genuine potential for a change in climate to disrupt our global civilisation. If that happens, we know human nature has a dark side, people will fight over an ever diminishing resource pool, and that is a future we want to avoid.
This decade is critical, it is our last chance to prevent our children from that type of world. We have to make significant progress and get the global emissions trajectory turning downwards. That is the urgent task at hand.
(I think maybe Tim has been smoking the same thing that always-wrong doomster Paul Ehrlich has been smoking. “We’re now having far more rapid change than originally projected.” Hmmm. I suppose he must not know about ‘the pause’ and all the excuses being made for it.)
SARAH PERKINS
Extreme weather researcher
University of New South Wales
FEAR: INCREASE IN EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS
As the background climate warms due to human activity, this increases the frequency and intensity of hot temperature events. I am concerned about how the very broad and damaging impacts of heatwaves will affect human health, infrastructure, agriculture, and natural systems. By the time we realise we need to make changes and start to put these changes in place, it might not be enough to balance out the range of catastrophes we will be facing.
(This lady should read my 2014 paper with Michaels and Knappenberger to understand heat waves, plus my essay on how technology and reporting bias figure in to extreme weather fears. She should also spend some time reading why some of the much touted heat waves have nothing at all to do with “climate change”.)
MATTHEW ENGLAND
Oceanographer, Climate scientist,
University of NSW, Sydney
FEAR: CLIMATE INDUCED GLOBAL CONFLICT
Accelerated warming and expansion of water in the oceans, and increased melting rates of glaciers and ice caps are expected to increase sea levels by a metre or more over the next 100 years. This will pose a decisive threat to the existence of human settlements, infrastructures and industries across the world that are close to the shore lines. Those environmental degradations will aggravate global conflict as tens of millions of people migrate and their food supplies become threatened.
We need to understand that the cost of solving the problem is so much less than the cost of dealing with it down the track; that cost is going to be huge for future generations. Not dealing with it is selfish, short-sighted, narrow minded and obscene. It represents such a level of injustice as those that are going to be impacted are not playing a role in the decisions that are being made now.
(Hmmm, the only climate wars I’m aware of are those being fought in the mind of Michael Mann, who fits England’s description of “selfish, short-sighted, narrow minded and obscene” pretty well.)
SHAUNA MURRAY
Biological Scientist
University of Technology Sydney, University of Tokyo, University of New South Wales
FEAR: REACHING THE FOUR DEGREES OF WARMING
We’ve recorded all sorts of climate change shifts in multiple areas. However, the scientific process is consistent. Every single individual study that has been done, has gone through the same rigorous process, data collection, research analysis, and qualified peer review. At the moment, we’ve at least 10 000 different papers, completed over 20 years, each using different data sets, and they are all coming to the same climate change conclusions. We’ve a weight of evidence that the average person is simply not aware of – and this frightens me.
I’d like to think that we’re not going to reach the projected four degrees of warming this century; because I can’t even imagine what that would look like. 80 years is not that long, and unless we act soon, my seven year old daughter will probably have to live through that.
(Apparently she only reads the papers that scare the crap out of her. Or maybe Skeptical Science, who posted this graph:
Meanwhile, The BBC reports ‘the pause’ may go on for another 10 years or more.)
PETER MACREADIE
Marine Ecologist
University of Technology Sydney, Deakin University
FEAR: GLOBAL CATASTROPHE
IPCC predicts that the impacts of climate change will be catastrophic. This affects everybody. Nobody is safe. We’re going to lose low lying countries, there will be a loss of live stock, potential wide spread famine and species extinction.
One thing people need to remember, is that scientists are the biggest skeptics on Earth. We’re constantly trying to disprove each other. This is the one thing we agree on. The evidence is endless. We’re not making this up, this is really serious, we’re very concerned and there’s not enough being done about it. We really need to be pushing our governments. Let’s not look back and regret what we’ve done.
(“Nobody is safe“, and this guy has the temerity to suggest scientists like him are the “biggest skeptics on Earth”? Wow. )
PENELOPE AJANI
Biological Scientist
University of Macquarie, Sydney
FEAR: UNKNOWN REPERCUSSIONS OF CLIMATE CHANGE
The scientific community know sea levels will rise, people will be displaced and food resources will diminish. But I work on the small things, the ocean’s plankton, and we are already seeing climate shifts in these organisms. How those changes will affect the global ocean is something we really can’t answer – and that scares me. For example, the fact that we’re seeing tropical species all the way down the east coast of Australia, means massive changes are occurring. However, we currently can’t predict the exact impact of these shifts.
Another example is that climate change will create winners and losers, there’ll be some species that get wiped out and some that will become prolific. Will it be the toxic algal species that are going to survive?
There will come a time when we need to have answers, when these changes will greatly challenge humanity.
(Any biologist who thinks that life is a static enterprise really should go back to school. Like climate, life changes. It also evolves, and adapts.)
Each “scared scientist” vignette ends with:
If you think these facts are frightening, help us change them.
Take action here
I’ll point out that there isn’t a hard sciences person in this group, and not a one of them appears to have any basic meteorological training, much less any climate science training. In their case, ignorance is not bliss, but a ticket to being scared out of their wits.
You gotta love the black and white photography and the caricatures of dark doom the portraits exude. It looks more like “performance art” than science.
Note the website traffic rank:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/scaredscientists.com
Nearly 15 million. Wow, off the scale of lower than low.
Meanwhile, WUWT is at:
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/wattsupwiththat.com
Lower traffic rank numbers are better, for example Google is #1. This comparison says a lot:
Finally, about that money they ask for when you “act now”, I wonder if it ends up here? Gotta love the domain registrar they use, quite appropos.
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Updated Date: 2014-08-08T02:08:31+08:00
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Registrant Name: RACHEL GUEST
Registrant Organization:
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In case anyone gets bent out of shape for me posting that info, I’ll point out it is public domain information, available to anyone who makes a WHOIS query, like this one:
http://whois.domaintools.com/scaredscientists.com
Anyway, good luck with the gloom and doom Rachel, you’ll need it to get past the laughing, especially after your last flop, the Years of Living Dangerously, which tanked in ratings after burning through several million dollars in production costs.
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Jimbo,
This is a serious request…Please compile all your good work into a readable format that could be published. Possibly with a preamble for each chapter..1.”predictions”…2.”Outcomes”…whatever works…..setting the scene so to speak.
Speaking personally I would certainly lash out a couple of dozen dollars on such.
Keep it up either way…
A
I follow many studies, conclusions, recommendations, statements, forecasts, measurements and much more related to the causes of climate change. It seems that the whole world scientific community rejects the long-term effects of natural law and everyone wants him to be the one to its a program, formed on the PC, find a solution, because he thinks that his PC, smarter than him, and from the makers of these laws. The full error, so we were totally stuck in ignorance and knowledge of nature. I still have not managed to figure out the causes of the ignorance of the majority of scholars, those deals that they do not want to hear and understand, and that are much closer to being solved than their. For me it is easier to determine the true causes of climate change, but the behavior of today’s scientific community. So far I have offered his solution to many places, but when we say “the dog barks, the caravan still passes.” All of these previous actions around seeking the causes of climate change are only partial observations and localized events, without going into the global knowledge of the fundamental laws of nature. I offer a solution with a contractual obligation and is highly unlikely that such a solution offered free of charge. Such a right solution civilization would pay a few trillion dollars, although to date on the study spent far more, but without any results. Shall not any of you try to at least agree on how to solve it. Every second, humanity is losing than it receives from such results have not yet been resolved whether the law. The general view of science, it is not something wrong, this behavior should be immediately changed, until it is too late. By this I do not offer a solution, but I check again, is there really anyone who wants to solve this enigma. If there is allow yourself to hear the opinion of someone who has never heard of science, and perhaps will hear.
I would be interested if others have a similar view?
Compare this.
To this.
On my setup, I can’t see how to do that. (I am running an old version of Safari on old OS 10.4, so this may be the problem.)
REPLY: You can’t scroll? Time to dump/upgrade that system then! – Anthony
REPLY2:…oh wait, I just realized Macs don’t have a scroll wheel…there’s your problem –Anthony
“I’ll point out that there isn’t a hard sciences person in this group, and not a one of them appears to have any basic meteorological training, much less any climate science training”
Try sifting through a list of ‘sceptics’, or even contributors on this site – much the same. So now we need letters after our names to have an opinion?
As Frank Herbert wrote, “I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.”
Their minds are definitely deadened.
So do they count as scientists at all?
Scared Scientists = Emotional Scientists = Irrational Scientists = Illogical Scientists
Which doesn’t make sense.
Jimbo,
Delicious, but simply causes a whetting of the appetite……………….
Publish all this stuff and be damned!
I’m quite sure you could weave a “narrative” around all these lists you’ve compiled to make it “reader-friendly”.
Sorry, won’t pressure or embarrass you further mate.
A
The first degree level qualification Flannery scored was English lit. He also made some money out of a geothermal project that went nowehere. Gaurnout, the ALP/Greens climate adviser, the architect of the “price on carbon”, is an economist and, like Gore, made millions out of mining gold and copper in PNG. Credit where credit is due, he did manage some pollution issues at the Ok Tedi mine(s).
Shouting ‘Fire!’ in a theatre is illegal, but potentially impacts only a tiny number.
‘Climate alarmism’ is impacting almost everyone on Earth and costing hundreds of billions. When do we bestow similar status onto these lying, scaremongering imposters – and start holding them to account?
The scientific community frowns upon your shenanigans.
‘This decade is critical, it is our last chance’
But 10 years of flat temperatures and we can claim success.
I think that this posting will have helped their traffic to spike right up, be interesting to see what the traffic stats for the site say in a week or so, that would be a testament to the power of this site, not anything about their sad pathetic message.
Will the Australian chapter of the Union of Concerned Scientists become the Union of Scared Scientists based on the PR found on the scaredscientists.com site?
John
I wonder if Tim Flannery remembers his forecast of perpetual drought for south-east Queensland ?
The Queensland government rushed to build a desalination plant which actually proved useful.
In January 2013 It provided drinking water to the Qld water system when supplies were in danger of running out due to flood damage.
And a bit of trivia.
The photo portraits of the scared scientists were designed to make them look really scared, terrified even. Words fail…….
http://petapixel.com/2014/08/22/portraits-scared-scientists-drive-home-critical-state-climate-change/
What scares me is people like this….
Is there no end to their lies and delusions?
Chris
Now the Recent Posts list has appeared in my sidebar–Phew!
I can’t believe Will Steffen has this “FEAR: LOSS OF CONTROL OF THE CLIMATE SYSTEM.”
Does the guy actually think he controls it now? News to me.
Im scared too.
that some idiots are going to give them funds and help keep this bunch of wackers in the DISinfo biz..:-(
“A quick chat to the experts and it’s immediately apparent that climate change is not only real: it’s serious. Very serious.”, no I mean it this time, it IS serious: it’s really, really, really very, serious…stop laughing…I MEAN it!!!! Really, really…/sarc ( not that I think I really needed it)
“Scientists don’t want to be right, they want to be wrong.”
— Well that’s a lofty goal ain’t it.
Research shows this is our last decade to slow climate change before it’s too late.
— Ehh? Weren’t you the ones that said it was already too late? You know, like once you ate that one spicy burrito to many, theres nothing left to do except wait for the s—storm.
The science community believe if people are willing, we can transform the current trajectory from one of fear to one of hope.
— Hope is always good, gets you out of bed in the morning, gets donations and politicians elected too.
But the science can only take us so far. If we want a safe and sustainable world, we need to take the facts seriously – and do what needs to be done to change them.”
— Would youse end war and disease as well? Making it a safe world I would think includes this, don’t you think? But yeah, let’s do what’s needed to be done — now what was that again dear? I must have missed it. All I heard was send me your Euros.
BTW those portrait photos are great. Getting portrait assignments with the request, “make them look scared, sad, and lost in a miserable world, but classy good looking”, is not easy to pull off. No sarc, credit to the photographer for outstanding work.
Two things:
1) a record of this crazy scaredscientists site MUST be archived. It can then be wheeled out in years to come when the scam has finished so that we can embarrass these loons (and the advisers such as Romm, Hansen, Mann etc). More importantly, the archived site can be used to rightly lay the blame for the massive waste of global funds at their door. They will have a lot to answer for.
2) Jones is right. Please Jimbo, could you produce a PDF of all your excellent material that shows up these idiots’ busted predictions throughout the years? I would happily pay for such a publication to recognise all your excellent hard work. Every posted comment of yours is a nugget of pure gold.
I can understand them. I’ve been where they are, terrified that no one believes them and certain doom lurks ahead in the dark… then I turned 6.
Will Steffen says “We’ll reach a point where we’ll lose control over the system.”
It’s scary that there are “scientists” out there like Steffen who really believe man can control the earth’s climate.