'unexpected link between solar activity and climate change' found in Greenland ice

Orbital mechanics were different during the Last Glacial Maximum which would have an affect on the TSI at TOA; less obliquity, more eccentricity and NH winter solstice at aphelion. Orbital mechanics do create differences in TSI at TOA throughout the year, so how does one use deposits to differentiate between real changes in solar activity and the perceived solar activity at TOA especially from ages past. As Leif explained on another thread, when discussing climate TSI at TOA is what counts and that those orbit created differences during the year are not the same as real changes in solar activity. So is it more likely that the Earth itself is the real culprit due to it’s changing orbit?

As Nature and global temperatures and the global climate refuse to do as instructed by the climate science chicken entrails modeling reliant climate scientists, the great backdown and cover up is now well and truly under way.
Remember how just how fixed in stone for eternity, the SCIENCE WAS SETTLED only a short three or so years ago and no debate or argument would be allowed or countenanced at all as it was a completely established unarguable fact that the Earth was inevitably heading into a CO2 driven climate catastrophe entirely of mankind’s own making.
Now we see an increasing volume of mostly seriously bad papers and unsubstantiated claims, nothing unusual in that with current climate science, all suggesting that perhaps there is something else other than m,an made CO2 that might be having an effect on the climate.
The above paper is another example of the backdown from yesterday’s hard fixed, not to be challenged or allowed to be debated climate science, a back down, a snake like sliming slithering away they hope to get away with after their sheer ineptitude and outright ignorance of the real drivers of the global climate has been so clearly revealed for all to see.
And god forbid, it might just even be that the Sun, that great fusion furnace way up there that pours it’s immense energy into the global atmosphere might just possibly have a minute effect on the climate. But only in some regions and patches you understand, regions and patches that somehow seem to link up an cover the earth’s surface as we are assured by those expert climate scientists.
And we are still most categorically assured by those same expert climate scientists that we will be all still going to a climate hell in a red hot carbon basket.
It’s just that the timetable has been delayed by unforeseen events such as the failure to warm and the unpredictability of the ENSO and the fact that they forgot about Clouds and have a few problems why the Antarctic ice is expanding as is the Arctic ice following the categorical assurance that we will have an” ice free Arctic by 2013″ and a few other minor hitches in the predictions such as we didn’t figure on the Sun having any effect on the climate but perhaps it does after all.
My contempt for climate catastrophe scientists rises by the day.
Not once, not a single one has ever even hinted at an apology for getting so much so wrong, a wrongness so wrong that the governments of the world on the heavily promoted ideologically driven advice of those same climate scientists have now expended close to a trillion dollars of the world’s treasure and wealth on to try and prevent those catastrophic outcomes in the climate so firmly and unashamedly predicted by those same climate scientists.
The resulting tens of thousands of deaths from energy poverty and the consequent lack of affordable energy for heating for the old and the poor leading to hypothermia in so many countries when the politicals and greens forced the closing down of the tried and true and absolutely reliable fossil fueled generators which were suposedly to be replaced by the totally unreliable, unaffordable, totally ineffective so called renewable energy, which it is anything but.
All proposed, promoted, and backed to the hilt by climate catastrophe scientists. based on nothing more than the outputs of some heavily biased climate models which are so damn primitive and ineffective that they can’t even get the past history of the climate right when that past climates observed data is fed into them
And the results of all this vast waste of lives and treasure at the bidding of climate science?
Zilch, nada, nothing !,
Not even a hint that all this totally unnecessary sacrifice of lives and treasure made one iota of difference to the climate or anything else except to create fear and societal dissension and to transfer vast amounts of wealth from the poor to the rich via the vastly corrupt and leech like renewable energy industry.
The climate just rolls right on and keeps right on rolling on as usual despite some of those same climate scientists aided and abetted by their unbounded and complete arrogance, ignorance and hubris imagining that they can control the global climate by twiddling a couple of Carbon knobs.
The message from climate science of only a couple of years ago has been that Nature has been stood aside and mankind is the one who now controls the global climate.
Nature laughed and turned the solar wick down and now it starts to cool and there is not a damn thing those abjectly ignorant climate scientists or their running dogs in the greens and enviro water melons can do about it.
I have no problems with climate science researching the climate and coming to the wrong conclusions as science in the long term is self correcting.
What I most strongly object to and which has brought me to the point of complete and open contempt for climate science and climate scientists is the way in which they used their trusted positions a scientists to impose their own brands of personal ideology and beliefs in a model predicted outcomes onto the rest of society to our extreme detriment in health, wealth, creation of unneeded economic malaise and societal dissension.
Modeled predictions that were nothing more than reflections on the climate modeler’s own biases but which were hyped up to the maximum by a group of arrogant, hubris laden, self promoting, narcissistic and as it turns out abjectly wrong climate scientists, into a predicted carbon dioxide driven climate catastrophe,
An ideological derived belief which had absolutely no underpinning in science other than pure conjecture on the part of those same hubris driven climate scientists.
When I see some deep humble apologies from climate science and climate scientists and a clean out of the worst of those climate charlatans by climate science itself and an admission and a full humble acknowledgment on how they, through their gross and complete hubris laden ignorance on their part and who have totally failed to comprehend how the global climate really works allied with their overwhelming hubris about their own omnipotence in climate knowledge, a position which they blatantly used to both impose their own ideology and suppress any others who dared to question or were at all skeptical about pronunciations of those oh so omnipotent climate scientists.
And who so deliberately and openly fed the hysteria of a predicted climate catastrophe due to mankind’s sinfulness in using fossil fuels with their CO2 emissions to enhance his health wealth and living standards over the last few centuries,
When I see a full open and humble apology from all of climate science and those same hubris driven climate scientists openly admitting that they were completely wrong in their climate catastrophe predictions and they humbly apologise and assume responsibility for the immense amounts of harm and destruction of lives and living standards and treasure they have created through their heavy promotion of what turned out to be nothing but predictions based on abject ignorance and hubris, then I will consider climate science with a somewhat better but still very wary consideration.

The problem is that Adolphi and Muscheler measure 10Be and 14C on Earth as
value for INCOMING SOLAR RADIATION (“Insolation”) and reckon this was theTSI
(“Total solar irradiation”) – which is the different Sun´s OUTPUT. They forget that
the Earth orbit oscillates on a centennial scale, thus received Insolation on Earth
can go up and down, while the Earth orbit oscillates – and, at the same time – the
TSI, the Sun´s activity OUTPUT remains CONSTANT.
More at: see website. JS.

The overall TSI variance is small but as Einstein’s photoelectric effect showed, not all bandwidths are equal. UV radiation that affects stratoshpheric ozone varies much more widely than TSI. Maybe these guys need a talk with the CCl4 guys to see if their model knows all this stuff. Another interesting study would be carbon and oxygen isotope variations by solar cycle. Carbon dating is fine without considering the variations but I’d bet CO2 is a bit more sensitive. Isotope variation would shed light on carbon sources. A few years ago it was revealed that plants preferred isotopes of carbon as the minute nuclear changes made a difference in some of the rate equations.

Of course Dr. Muscheler ruins it when he gives the usual, and obviously necessary, ass kissing to the AGW crowd. Money talks.
“Local climate”? Only when warmer than normal in the Lower 48 is that climate. When it is cooler than normal in the Lower 48 that’s weather. Someone clue him in. LOL