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John, you are right about the acts being applied to the taxpayer. Persons are taxpayers in their game of monopoly.
JOHN ROBERTSON and John Robertson are different. But this is a conversation for another day and might be a little to long-winded for posting. Hopefully everything in my last comment gets posted and not snipped.
What is the temperature of an object where the maximum emission of infrared is at wavelength of 4.25 microns? I calculate it to be 416°C.
I calculate 14 to 16 microns to be -66°C to -99°C.
Open Thread? OK:
Two liberals are walking down the road, when they come upon a man in the ditch. He has been badly beaten, and left for dead. He is moaning, groaning, bleeding.
One liberal turns to the other and says, “Quick, we have to find the people who did this! They need help.”
☺
Rainer Bensch,
It seems there may not be a ‘collapse of the wave function’ after all. Even Richard Feynman was convinced of that spookiness, but a close analogy has been found that apparently explains it:
http://www.simonsfoundation.org/quanta/20140624-fluid-tests-hint-at-concrete-quantum-reality
dbstealey:
At August 16, 2014 at 1:45 am you write
It is worse than you say. Keating is clearly a delusional idiot. This is shown by his comment to me and my reply below my response to his failure to pay up. His comment and my reply are as follows,
This is what he wrote
I have replied
Richard
dbstealey says: August 16, 2014 at 10:26 am
“It seems there may not be a ‘collapse of the wave function’ after all. Even Richard Feynman was convinced of that spookiness, but a close analogy has been found that apparently explains it…”
Finally the penny drops! They just have to relearn that light is composed of real photons with mass and size, and behaves in the same way as the fluid in their experiments. The ‘pilot waves’ are the neutrinos, which drive the the linear photons just like the droplets.
@Kenin 10:05-10:11 thank you always nice to learn something new.
I am dubious of the rainmakers but some farmers swear by them.
Is there any off topic on an open thread?
I post as lower case john robertson as there are several John R’s also posting.
so giant mirrors reflecting sunlight down onto the polar regions will be considered atmospheric tampering?
I could see Canada, Russia and Mongolia collaborating on such schemes if the next ice age is starting.
@richard Courtney 10:39.
thanks for posting that, Keating is special, we have a winner.
His nasty ranting seem to encapsulate the full spectrum of the hysteria of the Alarmed Ones.
If he is as righteous as he seems to believe himself to be, of course any who question his divine wisdom must be delusional. i love his illogic.
The projection of these nobodies is astounding.
I suspect ,as with most of those who can run our lives better than we can, that this person cannot show us anything constructive he has accomplished to date.
beng says: August 16, 2014 at 9:39 am But from what I’ve read, gravity propagates at the speed of light (graviton or not), and thus the conundrum.
Why would the gravitational field itself be restricted at all? Just because it propagates at the speed of light does not make it a form of energy – it is a field. You got me wondering about the electrostatic charge though. Could a lot of electrons get stripped away as mass crosses the event horizon and some get flung back out resulting in black holes having a massive positive charge and surrounded by a shell of orbiting electrons?
Vatnajökull glacier is really trembling now. The volcano Bárðarbunga as is one of the most active and most powerful volcano in Iceland.
http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A1r%C3%B0arbunga
http://www.volcanodiscovery.com/bardabunga.html
dbstealey says:
August 16, 2014 at 10:26 am
“Rainer Bensch,
It seems there may not be a ‘collapse of the wave function’ after all. ”
Smokey, all these years , since 1950 or so, there was the Bohm-de Broglie interpretation of QM that postulates exactly that. It is a rival interpretation to the Copenhagen interpretation. See the keywords “pilot wave” or “guiding wave” to find more.
de Broglie stated that in his mind, “particles” and “waves” exist at the same time – the “particles” being “spikes” in the “guiding wave” (a wave which corresponds to the Schroedinger equation, but cannot be measured directly, and is all-permeating).
O I see that the article mentions de Broglie. Great!
At about 3 a.m. a large earthquake swarm started by Bardabunga volcano in Vatnajokull ice cap. Over 200 earthquakes have been recorded. The largest earthquakes are of magnitue around 3 and above. Measurements indicate magma movements
DirkH,
What this article does is explain the analogy with a real world example. I liked that. The embedded video is really interesting, too.
It appears that the ‘Copenhagen’ interpretation was based on insufficient evidence. There are other, very small forces at work that cause the inteference pattern. Seems photons are particles after all, which sometimes act like waves.
More to come, I’m sure…
dbstealey says:
August 16, 2014 at 12:44 pm
“DirkH,
What this article does is explain the analogy with a real world example. I liked that. The embedded video is really interesting, too.”
The back and forth in the comments section is high calibre.
If de Broglie is the true interpretation many-worlds is toast ; what does this do to Quantum computers? I always doubted they could work.
beng,
I understand your question. But gravity is not a radiation. It is a field only in a sense that it creates an acceleration and, therefore, acts as a force. Gravity is not “getting out from the black hole with the speed of light.” It acts at any distance but decreases with the square of distance. Black hole contains enormous mass that curves the space-time fabric, creating a force sucking in the surrounding matter; the shape of this curvature is supposedly parabolic — therefore, the force it creates decreases with the square of distance. They say that it acts “with the speed of light” only because this is the fastest speed of any interaction possible in relativistic Universe.
The thing is, we don’t really know if the speed of light in the vacuum is the same in any conditions: near the star, in the interstellar space, and in the intergalactic space. I think it is not the same. I am almost sure that photons have mass, however infinitesimal. Any energy is mass, and any mass reacts with any other mass.
I think that we don’t know yet the actual shape of the gravitational curvature in the vicinity of a very large mass, that the dependency could be non-linear, and that the change of the pace of time can be more substantial than the currently accepted model of the Universe postulates. The speed of light in a vacuum could be different depending on the distance from a mass, and on amount of energy in that mass.
In other words, Einstein’s gravitational constant is, most probably, a gravitational variable.
since a few folks are reporting temps, Here in Woodstock, elevation on my mountain is 2000ft , I have observed 54F yesterday morning at 8:00am and today at 7:55 am it was 52F , I had to make a fire last night to warm the cabin. This summer has been spring all summer, I have a stone bridge over a spring fed stream that A) never got low enough to stand in to work on the damaged stone walls, B) when I did stand in the high for summer water, in five minutes my body started turning blue from the freezing cold water …. in JULY. Very cool summer here indeed. Very worried about coming winter as I can already feel it coming!
Richard Courtney,
Keating is a conman. He has set himself up as judge and jury regarding the decision of who will be paid, if anyone.
Of course, no one will be paid. He is just a publicity hound who is using the ‘offer’ in order to generate hits on his blog, and notoriety.
If Keating turned the money over to a neutral, respected authority, with fair ground rules for payment (or not), then he would have credibility. But as it stands, he is dangling a fictitious carrot in front of the public, dishonestly promising to pay if anyone can meet his conditions.
He will never pay. The way Keating sees it: honesty is for chumps.
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DirkH,
Interesting. I had never considered quantum computers.
dbstealey:
At August 16, 2014 at 1:45 pm you say to me
Yes, I know. But you and me knowing is not sufficient.
My sincere opinion is that the fakery of Keating’s pretend bet needs to be widely known otherwise warmunist toadies will cite the pretend bet as being an inability of climate realists to dispute man made global warming.
Keating’s dispute with me on his blog demonstrates his fakery. And Keating cannot expunge the copies of that dispute from this WUWT thread.
Richard
Anybody know who this woman is?
Small hint: she grew up in Arkansas.
Manfred says:
August 15, 2014 at 10:27 pm …
Within 24 hours of the shoot-down, Fidel Castro released a statement saying the Ukrainians did it.
Fidel, thousands of miles away in a hospital bed says this, What that tells me is that the opposite is true: The Russians or their proxies did it.
You may continue to apologize for the former Soviets.
I may continue to hope they get their red asses kicked.
Rainer Bensch (aka Rabe) says:
August 16, 2014 at 1:35 am
And others. Alternate viewpoint by Flandern:
http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/speed_of_gravity.asp
I know, not accepted by mainstream consensus (who by some simply jigger the equations to fit the warped field theory). But the logic is that even in a gravity “bowl” there still has to be a force to pull mass along the “curved space”. Another point that I remember seeing somewhere concerning the light speed limit is that simply put, nothing can be measured as being faster than the speed of light using light speed limited electromagnetic waves (like trying to measure objects going faster than the speed of sound in air using sound waves). However, if Flandern is correct, then FTL approaching 2 x 10 to 10th might be possible using gravity. Of course no effective electromagnetic/gravity interaction has been made public, but then such reactions if discovered would be highly classified wouldn’t they. Perhaps such a system exists for those pesky UFO’s, assuming of course that the examined evidence is acceptable to a reasoning audience.
USSR – CIS
Leopards don’t change their spots.
Amen brother, amen.
RobRoy says:
August 16, 2014 at 2:29 pm
“Within 24 hours of the shoot-down, Fidel Castro released a statement saying the Ukrainians did it.
Fidel, thousands of miles away in a hospital bed says this, What that tells me is that the opposite is true: The Russians or their proxies did it.
You may continue to apologize for the former Soviets.
I may continue to hope they get their red asses kicked.”
Full spectrum dominance! Nuclear first strike Yay! Hmm; I’m rooting for the BRICS. Hope the Dollar goes to hell. Because that’ll be healthier for everyone outside the CONUS; and probably for the people inside as well even if it means 3rd world status for them.