Traveling today, as I have been all week, but this seemed like a good time for an open thread. Discuss anything within bounds of WUWT commenting policy.
Traveling today, as I have been all week, but this seemed like a good time for an open thread. Discuss anything within bounds of WUWT commenting policy.
UK weather forecast for coming week is predicting around 5 – 6 deg C below average… and not a mention of Global Warming making it so Cold.
That Arch-Propagandist for Global Warming, the BBC, continues to project temperatures outside of London as 2 -3 deg C lower than in London itself. It consistently does so throughout the year but otherwise, rather inconsistently in any programmes on AGW, follows the Warmist line that UHI is only around 1 deg C …………
@Kenin 5.28pm.
Good find.
Probably bureaucratic butt covering from the attempt to stimulate plankton with iron dumping at sea.
However as written, 6 months in jail or $1000 fine for holding a rain dance without filing the appropriate forms.
I thought Monty Python was satire, these humourless twits think it is an instruction manual..
So my lightning machine, designed to wreak havoc upon Ottawa,will be OK as long as I file the proper forms.
Sarc off.
This is the decay of bureaucratic overreach, what is not Permitted(In triplicate) is forbidden.
Unless our elected and appointed nobility give us permission, then breathing is a crime.
The cost of these “Helpers” is destroying civil society, tribalism will increase because it is less expensive to productive people.
Until we get these parasites off of our backs and out of our affairs, attempts at productive actives will have negative returns.
Basic maths, I am not going to reinvest in work from which I reap no benefit.
If constructive behaviour results in a net loss, due to the depredation of society, I will have to change my ways and join the bandits.Or retreat to the shelter of the tribe.
Human nature rules.
He who builds well knows destruction is so much easier.
To whom ever read the Weather Mod Act,
thank you for your input, it is appreciated. The act is a clear example of how the intentional tampering of the atmosphere is occurring. My understanding of whom it is that may be directly involved in such an act are as follows:
-insurance industry
-Municipal Governments
-the military
-ski resort owner/operators
-other sinister reasons
-Agriculture Industry
Now, to actually prove something of this nature to be a criminal act, would have to involve damages of some kind. So how does weather modification negatively effect you?
Here’s one example:
Lightning suppression. Lightning is good for the atmosphere and soil in ways you can’t imagine. Plants grow better following a thunderstorm vs a regular shower. Wouldn’t that be better for your garden/farm? Or maybe your town floods because they sprayed just prior to a storm to increase rainfall amounts so the local reservoir gets a topping up. And what about ozone?
I would say that is criminal. Any act of weather mod is simply for fictional reasons; and what do I mean by fictional- THE ECONOMY AS WE KNOW IT.
I understand that we influence the weather in some way or another, either by building large cities or clearing a forest etc etc. But to do so deliberately is nuts.
This is not The Truman Show
how can gravity itself get past this point
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universes are born from black holes in their parent universes. child universes occupy the same space as the parent, but have been accelerated far into the future as a result of time dilation. dark energy is the gravitational remnant of the parent universe as seen by the child universe. the number of universes in expanding exponentially, with all possibilities being played out. we see the interaction between the universes in quantum mechanics. will one of these possibilities eventually achieve perfection and succeed in its purpose, to create god? for god did not create the universe, the universe is seeking to create god.
“For the kajillionth time. an enso event similar to 02/03 09/10 is on the way.. centered in the central Pacific, and one that will likely give the US a cold snowy winter in the south and east relative to averages….IMO” — Joe Bastardi
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=misery_index/orthographic=-144.15,-2.24,553
Excellent link from our friend from Poland. Ren
“The Hedgehog Method”
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you need to communicate between A and B to observe the effect. consider the solution in which B has no knowledge of A.
beng,
There are no gravitons, they are a mythical concept, on par with many other myths that have no experimental evidence but firmly replaced scientific thinking in the modern metaphysics.
Gravity is a curvature of the four-dimensional space-time continuum. The pace of time slows down in the presence of a large mass. The change in the pace of time has been measured on Earth; a one-foot increase in distance from the Earth’s surface is sufficient to register a minuscule but real change in the pace of time. What we experience as a “force of gravity” is an acceleration caused by the change in the pace of time, while equivalent acceleration creates a change in distance (space). In the presence of an extremely large mass, such as a black hole, time slows down to almost zero.
Nobody really knows yet if the so-called “gravitational constant” is actually a constant. If it is a variable depending on the distance from large masses and energies (as I and many others suspect), then there would be no need in mythical “dark matter” at all.
@ur momisugly Kenin7:32
Do not follow your logic.
The act is an example of how intentional tampering of the atmosphere is occurring?
What?
The act is just another meaningless rule used to control us, divide us and rob us.
Created for the benefit of our would be masters of the junior kleptocracy.
One use for it, charge all wind turbine operators with breaking its statutes, as they are definitely modifying the weather downwind of their sails.
Wonderful opportunity to legally steal.
Just another tool of the increasingly corrupt fools and bandits who infest our governments.
Another example,if I follow your comment correctly, would be prayer.
What if you prayed to the wrong Gods just before your town was hit by flood/fire or famine?
Texas Governor Rick Perry just got indicted on two felony charges. See what happens when you argue with a woman… 😉
rogerknights,
thanks for the link. After looking at some “ideas” there I’m not sure if the posters aren’t aware they are joking. That isn’t my intention.
“Anyone have Al Gore’s or David Suzuki’s phone number?”
Paul, if it’s already 11C then al-Gore is the LAST person I’d be calling. You could find it drop to -20C and cover you with a foot of snow, based on his latest effort in Canberra with the Skywhale.
I have always wanted to ask this question, since it’s an open thread and all and I know there are warmists who are actual SCIENTISTS that frequent this site i’ll ask it here.
How do you as a warmist with knowledge of the actual science live with yourself when there is so much evidence against the hypothesis of CAGW?
When there is not a shred of evidence for CAGW? (GW and even AGW sure but I have never seen a shred of evidence for CAGW) Feel free to provide some actual evidence.
When the economies of our countries are already in shambles and the poor will be the ones who suffer the most from carbon policies?
When billions of people are starving and burning dung for heat/cooking and we are turning food into fuel?
I refuse to believe that if you know the science you truly believe we need to take these drastic steps, So tell me how you wake up every morning and continue to support this unsubstantiated claim of CAGW.
ferdberple,
no, I didn’t speak of broadcasting, just point to point. All you need is a source supplying a constant amount of photons over time and some forward error correction.
milodonharlani says:
August 15, 2014 at 10:02 pm
Mike McMillan says:
August 15, 2014 at 9:39 pm
Was the IPCC AR5 the best selling work of science fiction last year?
Well 96% of scientists bought it.
“What would have to happen to change your mind? What evidence would have to exist to get you to say ‘Hey the global warming nuts may be right’?”
Well for a start, warming.
In the there’s a silver lining in every black cloud vein, it appears that our boy Algore got stiffed by Al-Jazeera on his Current TV sale deal.
http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/dan-joseph/al-gore-files-lawsuit-against-al-jazeera
“Former Vice-President, Al Gore has filed suit against Qatari-owned television network Al Jazeera.
According to filings in a Delaware court, the lawsuit concerns Al Jazeera’s $500 million deal to buy Al Gore’s Current TV in 2012.
According to Gore’s lawyer, David Boies, Al-Jazeera has failed to pay the full price agreed to when Gore sold Current TV.”
I sit here with sympathetic tears splashing off my keyboard.
Do I really need a sarc tag for this?
@John Robertson
you wrote:The act is just another meaningless rule used to control us, divide us and rob us.
Are you aware of what an Act actually is?
The Act created by Her Majesty the Queen; to govern and regulate its own internal affairs. It only applies to the body politic that created it. If you contract or are an employee of that body politic (corporate entity) then it would apply to you. Its by consent.
Plain and simple: its suppose to keep them in line.
Although your comment which i re-posted above, does have some truth to it.
FYI: insurance companies in Alberta are heavily engaged in weather mod. They openly admit this and so does the media.
Remember folks,
the canadian constitution and all acts/statutes that fall under it, only apply to the corporation enforcing it. But clearly it doesn’t always work that way, because those thugs will always try imposing their corporate rule onto the rest of us.
My rights do not come from the constitution…… i’m born with them.
ferdberple says:
August 16, 2014 at 7:06 am
“looks like 30 millions of us are on the hook for jail time for failing to report. heaven help us if “climate change” Trudeau becomes emperor. the economic devastation suffered by western Canada 30+ years ago under his father’s National Energy Program will return with a vengeance.”
Great opportunity to go short Canada.
Does Soros finance Trudeau? He’s the biggest nation-shorter out there.
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Alexander Feht says:
August 16, 2014 at 7:51 am
beng,
There are no gravitons, they are a mythical concept, on par with many other myths that have no experimental evidence but firmly replaced scientific thinking in the modern metaphysics.
Gravity is a curvature of the four-dimensional space-time continuum.
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Thanks for the reply.
I get the spacetime-curvature thing. Any g-force felt by an object is due to such curvature, whether it’s at the earth’s surface, an accelerating car, rocket, or my hand as I wip it back & forth in front of me.
But from what I’ve read, gravity propagates at the speed of light (graviton or not), and thus the conundrum. If space-time is curved so much below the black hole event-horizon that space is “falling” inward faster than the speed of light, how can the gravity get past the horizon and affect matter/energy outside of it?
People should lose their careers for perpetrating this.
http://climatekids.nasa.gov/big-questions/#/climate
http://climatekids.nasa.gov/big-questions/#/climate/human-effects
“What would have to happen to change your mind? What evidence would have to exist to get you to say ‘Hey the global warming nuts may be right’?”
Well for a start, warming.
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In all discussions about climate one must remember the global temperature goes up and it goes down in the short term. If it goes down over the next five or ten years it may mean something or it may not. Same if it were to go up. Even if the earth is on the verge of another glacial period it is not a continuous, smooth drop to the bottom. During the ups warmists will be insisting they are right, it has turned around as they knew it would. The current pause is providing some comfort, but we should probably be figuring out what we will say when temps go up as they surely will.
@ur momisugly Kenin 9:14.
Still fails to make sense.
These acts are always applied to the taxpayer.
The only exemptions are for the Twits who enforce them, who always exempt themselves.
I know this well having had these quasi legal acts imposed upon my trade for 20 plus years.
What actual tampering with the atmosphere is happening?
How is it measured?
By whom?
Robert Bissett,
If global warming resumes, we simply point out that these same step changes have been happening since the LIA, as the planet recovers to its long-term average.
Arch Warmist OPhil Jones, head of the UK’s CRU, shows how this works.
@John Robertson
http://www.weathermodification.com/
http://www.weathermodification.org/corporateroster.php
http://canadianawareness.org/2013/10/breaking-news-environment-canada-releases-geoengineering-programs-to-c-a-n/
That’s only weather mod, what about solar dimming?
maybe you should read this:
http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
Lunatics abound………….
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/07/climate-change-violence-occupy-earth
“Call climate change what it is: violence
Social unrest and famine, superstorms and droughts. Places, species and human beings – none will be spared. Welcome to Occupy Earth.
Climate change is global-scale violence, against places and species as well as against human beings. Once we call it by name, we can start having a real conversation about our priorities and values. Because the revolt against brutality begins with a revolt against the language that hides that brutality.”
http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/a-radical-approach-to-the-climate-crisis
“Clearly, we need to build a well-organized, broadly supported, yet tactically and strategically radical movement to demand proper climate policy. For such a movement to be effective it must use myriad tactics, from lawsuits and lobbying to direct action such as tree-sits, road blockades, and occupations aimed at the infrastructure of the fossil fuel industry. Only by disrupting the working of the political and economic system as a whole can we forge a consensus that ending the fossil fuel sector is essential.”
Christian Parenti is a professor of sustainable development at the School for International Training, Graduate Institute. He is a contributing editor to the Nation and the author of four books, the most recent being Tropic of Chaos: Climate Change and the New Geography of Violence (Nation Books, July 2011).