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So, I’m looking for graduates in science and/or engineering, interested in doing a masters or PhD in climate and/or weather forecasting using artificial neural networks… at this stage only open to residents or citizens from Australia and/or New Zealand… more information here… http://jennifermarohasy.com/2014/08/dont-retire-start-a-phd-in-paradise/
I am amazed at this article http://milesmathis.com/sunhole.html wondering where the heat in the sun came from, when you compress a gas you compress the heat it contains so the temperature goes up
Mechanicsville, VA, less than 20 miles from the Center of the Universe (Ashland, VA–just ask the residents), has now had 24 consecutive days with temps below the long-term average for the date; in fact, 29 of the past 30 days have been below average. August, so far, is 5.7 degrees F below average. We’re supposed to experience warmer weather next week, thus breaking the below-average streak; but even so, temps won’t go far above average. This has been a cool, late spring heading into a coolish summer. For me, not a problem; I do hope, however, that the coming winter doesn’t continue the trend. Today is already predicted to be “fall-like”, though closer to average than recent days.
People often compare current temperatures to “normal” temperatures. Normal is not the correct word, since we cannot assign a normal air temperature as we can (through long observation and experimentation) for the human body. August 1 had a high temp of 73 (average high 89) and a low of 63 (average low 69). Can we say that the Aug 1 average of 68 degrees F was abnormal? It was that cool because we got over an inch of rain that day. Is rain abnormal? Not in Virginia. Even an average temperature (more strictly, a mean) is not terribly meaningful, but at least it proceeds without trying to set a false norm or standard.
While your sunspot number may correctly show a decreasing averaged trend, you admit that solar activity has been a 100 year minimum, so that for the intervening years, Usoskin identifies a grand maximum of ~80 years.
Its a simple matter of inflection points.
The definition of “Social License” : Guilty until proven innocent.
Latitude says: August 15, 2014 at 6:17 pm Experts: Record Cold Summer Leads To Changing Leaves In August http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2014/08/15/experts-cold-summer-leads-to-changing-leaves-in-august/
That prompted me to check NCDC which shows, (not surprisingly), no evidence of a cooling trend. But is it only my browser or does everyone else see a ~slight~ problem with the temperatures reported in their chart for Pittsburgh?
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cag/time-series/us/36/USW00094823/tmin/2/08/1950-2014
What it’s plotting on my screen, (I know they are doctoring the data but….): http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y48/mikeishere/whattheheycag.gif
I envision a group of men (a Team) with various climate related end of the world sayings on their sandwich boards and some small children pointing and laughing. Is Josh in the house?
What would have to happen to change your mind? What evidence would have to exist to get you to say “Hey the global warming nuts may be right”? Just something to think about.
Anybody see all the west coast marine biologists screaming about a widespread massive intertidal zone die-off ?
Too much garbage mixed in with the data but still of interest… and just WAY too much lying by TEPCO about Fukushima contamination extent.
El Niño. Click on the map.
http://earth.nullschool.net/#current/wind/surface/level/overlay=misery_index/orthographic=-144.15,-2.24,553
Speaking of a garbage. Isn’t it interesting that our oceans or supposed to a cesspool of garbage, yet when that plane went down a few months ago, every time they spotted a piece of cardboard floating they thought it was plane debris?? Watt up with that?
kenin says:
August 15, 2014 at 5:28 pm
I would really appreciate some comments on this. Thank you
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/W-5/page-1.html
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as I read the Act it means that if you engage in weather modification activities you must inform the government. cloud seeding for example comes to mind as an activity you would need to report.
failure to report carries a $1000 fine and/or 6 months in jail. the government is not obliged to keep the reports confidential. the public can request them.
kenin, the next step would be to request the government to make these reports available to you, so you can see what sort of weather modification has been taking place.
Ed Martin
http://i.wp.pl/a/f/film/106/61/81/0398161.jpg
Departures from normal for July map looks right to me. Ice age plant relics (fens house Riddell’s goldenrod, Goldies fern, wood frogs) are looking very prosperous where I live and the desert plant relics (yucca, cactus) look a might peakish.
http://www.wsi.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/Last1mTDeptUS.png
From:
http://www.wsi.com/blog/energy/sub-seasonal-u-s-temperature-outlook-for-september/
ferdberple says:
August 16, 2014 at 6:26 am
kenin says:
August 15, 2014 at 5:28 pm
I would really appreciate some comments on this. Thank you
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/W-5/page-1.html
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as I read the Act it means that if you engage in weather modification activities you must inform the government.
Geez. Based on the Alarmist/Warmist viewpoint, there isn’t much of anything we humans can do that doesn’t modify the weather in some manner.
I guess Canadians need to stop exhaling CO2.
You know, just to be sure.
He looks extremely depressed in that picture. Suffering
our oceans or supposed to a cesspool of garbage
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we sailed across the pacific 25 years ago in a 40 foot boat and saw zero floating garbage. the reason if pretty straight forward. anything floating on the ocean quickly gets covered in life. as more and more grows on the underside it gets heavier and heavier and most of it will eventually start the long fall to the ocean bottom, where it will get covered over in time by the silt that rains down continually.
we did however see plenty of plastic (rope, foam, bottles, flip-flops, etc) washed up on the shores of uninhabited tropical islands. it was pretty much all in bad shape from sun rot. it doesn’t degrade over night, but it does degrade eventually from the UV.
in contrast, near the coast there is quite a bit of plastic. black plastic bags were a real problem in SE Asia as they float just under the surface and get caught up in propellers. the black resists UV.
inMAGICn says:
August 15, 2014 at 8:14 pm
pat
All things considered, don’t you think a storm about to hit the UK shouldn’t have a Muslim name?
Muhammad Ali? Now there was a real hurricane. 🙂
Try submitting it to halfbackery, at http://www.halfbakery.com/
45F two mornings in a row here in a frost hollow. The record for fairly nearby Hagerstown, MD on this date was 47F set in 1927 (they had 48F this morning).
Open thread, so I’ll throw this astrophysical question out that’s been bugging me.
Black holes have a gravitational force so strong that light can’t get past the event horizon. Fine. But if that is so, how can gravity itself get past this point, assuming it “travels” at the speed of light, carried by the purported “graviton”?
I guess Canadians need to stop exhaling CO2.
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looks like 30 millions of us are on the hook for jail time for failing to report. heaven help us if “climate change” Trudeau becomes emperor. the economic devastation suffered by western Canada 30+ years ago under his father’s National Energy Program will return with a vengeance.
Jealous of Western Canada making money from oil, in 1980 the Liberals enacted the National Energy Program, and paid companies 102% of costs as an incentive to drill on Federal Land instead of Provincial Land. Needless to say, the result was a huge increase in the number of dry holes drilled at taxpayers expense.
The program was a blatant money grab by the Federal Government from the West. Tax changes resulted in some 1700 oil rigs leaving Alberta for points south of the border. Western prosperity was wiped out over night and the Reform Party was born, which eventually went on to combine with the Conservative Party and currently forms the Federal Government in Canada.
However, resentment over western prosperity still runs high in the east. The cowboys in Alberta are once again making money, which doesn’t sit well with the old money back east. The Old Money in the east would rather cut of their noses to spite their face than see anyone doing better than they are.
The imbalance in population between east and west again sets the scene for the majority using their votes to try and grab the wealth of the minority. All fed by the dozen companies and old families that control 90% of the wealth of Canada.
jonesingforozone says:
August 16, 2014 at 3:21 am
Its a simple matter of inflection points.
A little thought will tell you that it is not a simple matter of inflection points. The issue is what activity is between the points. And whether the maxima are Grand or just ordinary.
However, using your 21 year centered mean, Usoskin may still have considered the twentieth century a grand maximum of solar activity given that ~80 years of smoothed group numbers were 50 or more.
Your revised group numbers are based upon a downward revision in the late twentieth century sunspot group numbers as provided by Hoyt, D.V.; K.H. Schatten (1998) whose unrevised series Usoskin also uses for the portion of his reconstruction that follows the year 1610.
@Kenin. Sounds like rain dances are regulated now. And, building a business that causes any CO2 emissions would qualify also, maybe. But since CO2 only affects climate, not weather, maybe they would be excepted.
But if that is so, how can gravity itself get past this point, assuming it “travels” at the speed of light, carried by the purported “graviton”?
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the speed of gravity has never been experimentally resolved.