Not just a Hockeystick, but borrowing from official CNN language last week, this appears to be the legal equivalent of a f***stick. It is quite a read.
McIntrye, McKittrick, Christy, and Andrew Montford among others are referenced.
Excerpts:
Critics of the hockey-stick graph have focused on what they believe to be four serious flaws in its underlying methodology.
First, they have questioned the reliability of the graph’s underlying data. Because there are no thermometer records before the middle of the 19th century, the bulk of the hockey stick is composed of so-called “proxy” data, such as ancient tree rings, sedimentary pollen levels, and oxygen isotopes frozen in polar ice caps. Dr. Mann argues that these proxy data can be interpreted to provide an accurate record of global temperatures going back more than a thousand years. Some critics disagree. They argue, for example, that tree-ring formations cannot provide an accurate measure of global historical temperature trends — in part because temperatures fluctuate unevenly in different parts of the world, and in part because the relevant tree-ring characteristics are influenced not only by temperature changes but also by variable growth factors such as sunlight, water, and soil nutrients. In the eyes of critics, any statistical model that uses such data to reconstruct centuries of historical temperature trends is fundamentally flawed and misleading.
Second, critics have argued that the hockey stick relies on flawed statistical techniques, including a skewed Principal Components Analysis (“PCA”), producing an erroneous and misleading interpretation of the underlying data. For example, according to Professor David Hand, the former President of the Royal Statistical Society in Great Britain, “The particular technique [used by Dr. Mann and his co-authors] exaggerated the size of the blade at the end of the hockey stick. Had they used an appropriate technique the size of the blade of the hockey stick would have been smaller.”
If one uses a better statistical method, “[t]he change in temperature is not as great over the 20th century compared to the past as suggested by the Mann paper.” Id.
Third, critics have argued that the hockey stick is misleading because it splices together two different types of data without highlighting the change: For roughly the first nine centuries after the year 1000 A.D., the graph shows temperature levels that have been inferred solely from tree-ring samples and other “proxy” data. But from about 1900 onward, the graph relies on readings from modern instruments such as thermometers. In the words of one review conducted by a panel of independent scientists, many consider it “regrettable” that temperature reconstructions “by the IPCC and others” neglected to emphasize “the discrepancy between instrumental and tree-based proxy reconstructions of temperature during the late 20th century.” J.A. 370.
Fourth, critics have contended that the hockey stick is misleading because it omits certain
tree-ring data after the year 1960 that show a decline in global temperatures, and instead relies more heavily on thermometer readings that show an increase in temperatures during that period. The omission of these data gained widespread public attention after the leak of multiple e-mails from the University of East Anglia’s Climate Research Unit (“CRU”), prompting an uproar popularly known as “Climategate.” In one particularly controversial e-mail, CRU scientist Phil Jones wrote to Dr. Mann and two other scientists: “I’ve just completed Mike’s [i.e., Dr. Mann’s] Nature trick of adding in the real temps to each series for the last 20 years (i.e. from 1981 onwards) [and] from 1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline.”
Dr. Mann himself has not denied the omission of certain proxy data after the year 1960, but has argued that the omission is legitimate: “[T]hese data should not be used to represent temperatures after 1960,” he explains, because “the density of wood exhibits an enigmatic decline in response to temperature after about 1960.”
In other words, because temperature measurements from modern instruments show that these data points are not reliable, Mann contends that it is legitimate “not to show those data during the unreliable post-1960 period.” Id.
Critics disagree, arguing that the hockey stick should have included the post-1960 proxy data to give a more full and accurate picture: since modern instruments have shown tree-ring proxies to be inaccurate after 1960, they say, this also calls into question the reliability of the proxy data from earlier years, where no thermometer readings are available to provide an independent check.
Based on these four separate criticisms, Dr. Mann and his detractors have engaged in a long-running public debate over the validity of the hockey stick and its underlying methodology. Dr. Mann and his defenders characterize the hockey stick as methodologically sound, contending that it gives an accurate picture of the dire threat global warming poses. Critics of the hockey stick characterize it as badly flawed, contending that its reliance on questionable statistical techniques and its method of data presentation render it false and misleading.
In testimony before the United States Congress, Professor John Christy summarized the critical view by stating that “evidence nowindicates . . . that an IPCC Lead Author working with a small cohort of scientists, misrepresented the temperature record of the past 1000 years by (a) promoting his own result as the best estimate, (b) neglecting studies that contradicted his, and (c) amputating another’s result so as to eliminate conflicting data and limit any serious attempt to expose the real uncertainties of these data.”
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The tone of the debate
Given the strong differences of opinion, the tone of the hockey-stick debate has been intense and at times vituperative, with both sides indulging in caustic rhetoric. Dr. Mann himselfhas harshly condemned hi
s critics, branding them as “climate deniers,” and denouncing them as liarsand frauds. In 2005, for example, Dr. Mann wrote an e-mail to a New York Times reporter asserting that “[t]he McIntyre and McKitrick paper is pure scientific fraud,” and that “[a]number of us are . . .very surprised that Nature is publishing it.”
ARGUMENT
I. The D.C. Anti-SLAPP Act Applies To Dr. Mann’s Attempt To Silence His Critics
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II. Criticism Of The Hockey Stick Is Not Actionable Under The First Amendment
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A. The First Amendment Protects Vigorous Criticism on Matters of Political and Scientific Controversy
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1. Scientific controversy must be resolved through free and open debate,not through litigation.
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2.The First Amendment protects rhetorical hyperbole on matters of public controversy.
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3. Protecting free speech requires substantive and procedural safeguards
B. The Lower Court Failed to Enforce the First Amendment’s Substantive and Procedural Protection for Speech on Matters of Public Controversy
C. Under a Proper Application of the First Amendment, the Commentary Published by National Review Was Core Protected Speech
…the commentary was part of the heated public debate over the hockey-stick graph, where caustic criticism and hyperbolic rhetoric are the coin of the realm. Dr. Mann himself has set the tone of the debate, accusing his intellectual opponents of “pure scientific fraud,” “the fraudulent denial of climate change,” making “fraudulent” claims, “t[aking] corporate payoffs for knowingly lying about the threat climate change pose[s] to humanity,” “willfully . . . le[a]d[ing] the public andpolicy makers astray,” being “anti-science,” and deliberately seeking to “mislead” people through “deceptive . . . report[s]” that “regurgitate[]” “denialist myths.”See supra at 6-7 & nn. 9-13. Since Dr. Mann’s references to “fraud” and “knowingly lying” reflect the linguistic reality of the global-warming debate, it cannot be seriously suggested that Dr. Mann can unilaterally punish his critics for similar rhetoric.
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Read the whole thing here:
H Grouse is all over the map here.
1) He seems to think he has a stopper with his question: “Do you, or do you not have a published reconstruction that invalidates the shape of the “hockey stick?”
Mann’s critcs are under no obligation whatsoever to produce a counter reconstruction. It is entirely legitimate and sufficient to show that Mann’s methodology is seriously deficient. That makes it junk science regardless of any other consideration. For instance, perhaps temperature proxies are inherently too deficient to provide a reconstruction with as little uncertainty as Mann claimed. I.e., no reconstruction of the type Mann claimed may even be possible. Many of those who’ve looked at available temperature proxies believe that to be the case.
2) “I thought this lawsuit was about ‘defamation’. The science is not at issue in the case.”
Clipe responded correctly: If the “hockeystick” proves to be junk science then there is no “defamation”.
3) “Didn’t other scientists confirm Mann’s work with subsequent studies using different proxies and methodologies?”
Steve McIntyre has written on this point many times. He calls Mann’s collaborators and peer group the “Hockey Stick Team”. Essentially all of the so-called independent studies use a strongly overlapping set of proxies, share many authors in common. The methodology in nearly every case is built around the highly dubious idea of weighting the chronologies according to their degree of agreement with the instrumental period. This simple fact GUARANTEES that a blade will result, even beginning with RANDOM data. They’ve selected for what they are instead supposed to be proving. If one averages together a bunch of random walk chronologies that have been selected for their blades, the rest (the shaft) will average into “sphaghetti”. Hey presto, “confirmation” of Mann.
4) “If if the science is ‘junk’ hat does not justify the comparison to Sandusky”.
There is this little thing called the First Amendment to the Constitution. Mann himself has used vicious rhetoric for decades against everyone who does not immediately fall into line. If he can dish it out, he ought to be able to take it. Besides, the Sandusky business was a reference to the so-called “exoneration” of Mann by Penn State. Despite Mann’s claim otherwise, this “investigation” is the ONLY “exoneration” of Mann, and the guys behind this “exoneration” were the same ones who concealed Sandusky’s behavior. That was Sindberg and Steyn’s point. Stop boasting about being “exonerated” by Penn State. People are laughing.
rogerknights says:
August 4, 2014 at 9:15 pm
Marcott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Thanks Roger. I put “Marcott” into the WUWT search bar to find a representative take down of his science…. and well, there’s just SO many of them. That paper was really a gong show and even Marcott himself admitted it until his adviser stepped in and told him to STF up.
So it’s ok to use enigmatic data to restructure the world’s economy?.
The original stick didn’t include Tiljander at all, that paper hadn’t been created yet. The real deal breaker was the gross overweighting of bristlecones by 391 times over other proxies, if memory serves. Had bristlecones been weighted the same as everything else, no blade.
looney mooney revives the bill weir ****sticks:
4 Aug: Motherjones: Chris Mooney: Meet the CNN Anchor Who Called Fox News “Ignorant Fucksticks” Over Climate Change
Bill Weir’s ill-advised tweet lit up the internet. Here’s why he seems to care so much about science.
But why was Weir so upset? A look back at his past coverage, mainly at ABC (he only moved to CNN in late 2013), suggests that he’s a journalist who covers climate change well, and really cares about science and technology…
Weir appears to be a pretty big science aficionado. When he was cohost of ABC’s Good Morning America weekend edition back in 2008, he fronted this stunning love song segment on science (titled “Science Rocks!”), which included Weir saying that “science is the new sexy” and describing how New York’s World Science Festival is striving to turn “geek chic.” Watch it:…
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/08/cnn-bill-weir-fox-news-climate
It’s not even necessary to treat this as gently as the authors do here. There is only one possible way that tree ring data could be considered an accurate proxy (that is, a substitute) for instrumental observations. That is if, during significant periods of time when both types of data were available, there is a very close correlation between the two types of data. If that correlation is not there, then no honest scientist could claim that the alleged “proxy” data had any meaning at all when it comes to the past. As a scientist myself, I can’t even begin to express what a gross abuse of scientific integrity is required to make the argument that Mann is making. In my line of work, you go to jail for pulling stunts like this.
THE HOCKEY STICK
There was a crooked Mann
Who played a crooked trick
And had a crooked plan
To make a crooked stick
By using crooked math
That favored crooked lines
Lysenko’s crooked path
Led through the crooked pines
And all his crooked friends
Applaud what crooked seems
But all that crooked ends
Derives from crooked means
Eugene WR Gallun
“Dr. Mann himself has set the tone of the debate, accusing his intellectual opponents of “pure scientific fraud,” “the fraudulent denial of climate change,” making “fraudulent” claims, “t[aking] corporate payoffs for knowingly lying about the threat climate change pose[s] to humanity,” “willfully . . . le[a]d[ing] the public andpolicy makers astray,” being “anti-science,” and deliberately seeking to “mislead” people through “deceptive . . . report[s]” that “regurgitate[]” “denialist myths.” ”
Meltdown Mann….
Dr. Mann made his name with the claims to the AMO (Atlantic Mutidecadal Oscillation), or more accurately Mann claims he named the N.A. SST quasi-periodic variability ‘the oscillation’.
Dr.Mann also produced an AMO reconstruction from various proxies, which wasn’t too bad until year 2000 when apparently North Atlantic ‘boiled over’ .
To Dr. Mann and warm-ites faitfull army of followers, this makes a perfect sense, since the North Atlantic overheating made the Pacific ‘freeze over’ blocking that ‘orrible super El Nino, as now we know, ‘the cause of the pause’, all of course predicted by the Dr. Mann’s reconstruction.
jimbo said
‘The Hokey Schtick is a fabrication of Climastrology.’
Surely you meant ‘Climacatastrophe’
tonyb
H, Grouse asked if anyone could name reconstruction that showed different results to Mann’s hockey stick graph. No one has yet been able to do so.
Dbstealy : the graphs you refer to have no provenance. They could be squiggles drawn by a 5 year old child as far as the scientific world is concerned.
DavidmHoffer, you refer to a collection of geological records in the hope that someone may find something remotely resembling evidence of present day temperature changes if they bother to plough through them. You should know by now that ice-core records say nothing about the present day. Which of your graphs would you say provided evidence?
Reconstructions different to Mann’s have been published this century, showing the existence of the medieval warm period and the little ice age. Papers have also been published by statisticians refuting Mann’s statistical approach. It’s shameful that those claiming to rebut H. Grouse are unable to name any of them. Instead, out of their frustration, they call him a troll and resort to Ad Hominem. That is not Science.
Come on gentlemen, do some research.
MikeB
Fair point.
I am reconstructing CET from its instrumental date of 1659 back to 1000AD using observations, crop records, science papers etc. I am currently back to 1538 but am currently working on the period 1200 to 1350 where the first blip towards the LIA can be seen.
As a guide I am examining both Dr Mann’s reconstructions and that of Hubert Lamb.
CET is significant in as much it is seen by many scientists as well as organisations such as the Met office as being a reasonable proxy for a global or NH situation.
Dr Mann -and spaghetti derivatives-miss out on the fine grain of very substantial annual and decadal variability as the method of using novel proxies such as tree rings does not pick up the real world day to day and year on year variability and as such largely smmoths out climate related events such as the LIA.
http://judithcurry.com/2011/12/01/the-long-slow-thaw/
There are hundreds of references.
tonyb
Dr. Hockey Stick Mann reminds me of the Inquisition. The Church had to torture and kill to silence those who contradict its dogma. When Mann resorted to legal threats, it is a sure sign this is not about science but an attempt to enforce a scientifically untenable position.
“… Two different judges have already determined the case has merit. When it comes to lawsuits, I do believe you need to recognize the authority of judges.”
Someone once said that a judge is just a law student who grades his own papers.
@MarkStoval
In their courtroom, they are god.
thingadonta says August 4, 2014 at 9:40 pm
That, IMHO, having read all the comments so far, is the comment of the thread.
BTW: WRT H Grouse: In the UK there was a wonderful sit-com based on Slade prison called Porridge. It starred the brilliant Ronnie Barker as Fletcher and many here will have enjoyed it. In that comedy the ‘godfather’ of the prisoners, who enjoyed all sorts of privileges and fawning obeisance from the warders and prisoners alike was one ‘Arry Grout. He was always bested by the redoubtable Fletcher. As a result, whenever I come across a comment from H Grouse I see a pompous old lag having to put up with doing time.
Quit feeding the troll. Grouse is an adolescent who is simply delighting in poking the debate to see if it reacts. He neither understands, nor cares about the substance of the discussion. Don’t waste your time with such a trivial person. There are MANY more important issues going on in the world right now that need focus more than entertaining adolescents who need to grow up.
Gee, while I was skimming through grouse’s dogged trolling, I realized one thing. This person actually seems to think that refuting the fraudulent hockey stick would require an alternate reconstruction.
However, since everyone else on the PLANET except mann realizes that trees are not thermometers, what fool would actually attempt to create some sort of alternate tree-derived reconstruction? ANY tree-derived temperature reconstruction would be wrong, because you can’t determine past temperatures from trees. You can’t even determine CURRENT temperatures from trees. Unless your tree has a thermometer nailed to it.
One problem here is that people do feed trolls, because it’s not always obvious when you’re dealing with an obstinate and ignorant troll or someone who is genuinely seeking knowledge. From my observation, EVERY intelligent person who genuinely seeks climate knowledge rapidly stops believing in the myth of manmade (catastrophic) climate change. Without exception.
spot on paul, the schools are on holiday at the moment .when h.grouse goes back to school the comments will cease .
anytime you see support for the hockey stick you know a troll is involved as the entire climate science community distanced themselves from mann a long time ago.
H Grouse says:
August 4, 2014 at 5:16 pm
Jimbo says:
August 4, 2014 at 5:08 pm
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“The Hokey Schtick is a fabrication of Climastrology.”
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Didn’t other scientists confirm Mann’s work with subsequent studies using different proxies and methodologies?
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You tell us.
H Grouse says:
August 4, 2014 at 5:29 pm
clipe says:
August 4, 2014 at 5:23 pm
“If the “hockeystick” proves to be junk science”
If if the science is “junk” hat does not justify the comparison to Sandusky
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Oh dear. Nobody compared Mann to Sandusky. Rather, the behaviour of Penn State regarding how they dealt with Mann was compared to how they dealt with Sandusky.,I.E. Brushed it under the carpet.
Your’s struggling, aren’t you? You ask others to produce citations, yet offer none yourself. Don’t you have anything better to do with your time than troll?
There you go again replying to Grouse just like Mosher, Zeke, Rhamsdorf, Connolley ect The best is simply not to reply to their statements. They will get bored and go away, but by all means allow them to say what they wish here.
Evidence that the MWP happened is overwhelming. On the other hand, any attempt at an accurate global temperature reconstruction is going to be futile. The best we can do is a rough approximation.
co2science.org has a really good compendium of research that provides evidence of the MWP. link The reconstruction they present on that page (from an early ipcc report) may be as good as it gets.
MikeB:
Your censorious comment scarcely adds to the thread. Why did you not produce some of those sources yourself? You simply are demonstrating the fault that you accuse in others
H Grouse says:
August 4, 2014 at 5:16 pm
Didn’t other scientists confirm Mann’s work with subsequent studies using different proxies and methodologies?
Yes H Grouse, Dr. Gergis did. She used the proven methodology of the science to do so.
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/josh_seives_sticks.jpg
It is all detailed in a peer reviewed paper…
Oh wait!
(I think Grouse has go back to hiding under the bridge).
Here’s a good read:
http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11676