The DDP Conference

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

I had the great pleasure of being invited to give a presentation at the Doctors for Disaster Preparedness (DDP) conference this weekend in Knoxville, Tennessee. It was a very interesting and professionally run conference, and I offer my thanks to Dr. Jane Orient knox co2 meterfor her invitation, and to her team for the doing endless logistic work that such a conference entails in a most efficient and nearly invisible manner.

The conference featured a host of fascinating speakers, and the city itself was most pleasant and interesting. I came with a stack of Powerpoint slides and a presentation on climate science. But then I thought “Wait a minute, these are doctors, not climate scientists”, and I ended up putting them aside and speaking for an hour with the main theme being the ancient medical admonition, “First do no harm”.

One of the first people I met carried around a portable CO2 meter. We were indoors at the reception dinner in a large banquet hall, and here is the CO2 concentration:

knox co2 meter

About 800 ppmv … it gave me a better understanding of why ground level CO2 is not necessarily a good measure of the background levels.

One of the best parts for me of such conferences is that I get a chance to meet my heroes. When I began studying climate science I soon identified the scientists that I thought were doing interesting and outstanding work … but I never imagined that I would meet them, much less get a chance to speak at a conference with them. Dr. Fred Singer, the dean of skeptics, was at the conference, and paid me the compliment of quoting some of my scientific results in his speech. I’ve met him several times before, he’ll be 90 this year, still sharp, still funny. I also got a chance to share a meal with Dr. Art Robinson, the originator of the Oregon Petition. He turns out to be a most interesting man, a PhD biochemist who is doing fascinating research on the diagnosis of the state of a persons health by using mass spectrometry to analyze the trace molecules in their urine. He was most complimentary, and said that my presentation was “absolutely perfect”. I felt quite honored.

It was a very eclectic collection of speakers, including a man whose work is the identification of the various types of ebola viruses, and the kinds of precautions necessary for dealing with the disease. He showed slides of him in Africa in a full moon suit, and spoke of how the hospitals often deal with the ebola patients without even gloves, because the hospitals are too poor to buy them and their stocks have run out in the current medical emergency. Given the recent and continuing ebola outbreak in Africa, it was most timely.

And unlike the ICCC9 conference where I spoke a few weeks ago and the talks were limited to twelve minutes (and unavoidably so given the number of noted speakers), we each got an hour to talk about our subject, which was a great boon.

I ended up speaking on how increases in the cost of energy for any reason are the most regressive tax imaginable. If you make very little money, for example, you pay no income tax. But the poorer you are, the larger a percentage of your expenses goes to energy costs (primarily heating, cooling, and transportation), and there is no exemption for those at the bottom of the heap. My message was, if you think CO2 is a problem, fine, but when you fight it first do no harm … and while increasing the price of energy is an inconvenience for many people, for the poorest of the poor it can mean impoverishment, sickness and death. So fight CO2 if you must, but if you increase energy prices to do it, you are actively harming the poor. I’ve requested the video of the speech, I’ll post it up on youtube when I get it. My speech stole shamelessly from my writings, and it’s nothing I haven’t said before, but it was the first time I’d put it into a one-hour speech. It was very well received.

In between sessions, I wandered around downtown Knoxville. It’s an old city, with a marvelous “Market Square”. Ironically, the huge building across the street is the offices of the TVA, the “Tennessee Valley Authority” which did so much to relieve poverty in the area by providing cheap electricity for the local people. The TVA building, fittingly, has a long lovely fountain symbolic of the renewable hydropower that the Authority provides …

tva fountain 1tva fountain 2

There is also a display of old machinery in the foyer of the TVA building which you can see from outside. It’s all from the time when such machines were works of art. One that caught my eye was a “flyball governor”, first invented by James Watt of steam engine fame. As someone who holds that the climate is regulated not by feedback but by a governor system, it was of great interest, and is a stunning example of the genre:

tva flyball

When the pulley-driven wheel turns, the vertical shaft with the four steel balls (one unseen behind) suspended on flexible spring steel blades spins as well, and the balls are driven outwards by centripetal centrifugal force. This pulls the upper brass ring downwards against the adjustable tension of the spring at the upper right, and controls a valve which regulates the amount of energy entering the system … a most elegant version of an ancient design.

The Market Center is the showpiece and heart of the city. It’s a long open space, and every time I went there it was full of people and something was going on—jugglers, Shakespeare plays in an outdoor theatre …

knox shakespeare

.. a magician, people break dancing, newspaper sellers, a variety of street musicians, it went on and on. Outdoor cafes ring the Market Square, and the people of Knoxville have turned the outdoor cafe into an art form … now that’s outdoor eating in comfort.

knox cafe

There is only one statue in the square, and contrary to my expectation when I saw it from a distance, that it would be something honoring Civil War heroes, to my surprise it honors heroes of an entirely different kind:

knox suffrage

One of the inscriptions on the pedestal was particularly moving …

knox suffrage 3

” … the monstrous injustice of including educated women with felons and lunatics as persons denied the right of suffrage”, indeed. We forget the cost it took to purchase the rights and freedoms we take for granted.

Knowing that if you build a fountain kids will want to play in it, the Market Square also has a fountain specifically designed for kids, with benches nearby for the parents to watch the joy …

knox kids play fountain

There is a museum on the corner of the square, featuring a complete reproduction of an apothecary shop, with reminders of how far medicine has advanced in the last 150 years.

knox magnetic oil

The maids in the hotel who came in to clean my room were great. One was a very large black woman. When I told her I was there to give a speech, she said proudly “I just gave my very first speech myself”. I asked for the details, and she said it was at the drug rehab center where she used to live. I asked her what she’d told them. She said “I told them you can’t just sit around for the rest of your lives drawing government money and using it to buy drugs. You have to get up and stand up and make something out of your lives” … words to live by. She said the management of the rehab center wanted her to go speak to other groups, and I applauded her resolution to do so.

The next day another maid told me she’d been upset when she saw the word “Climate” on some paperwork in another guest’s room, she was all upset about the idea of a climate conference … but then she read a bit more and realized it was skeptics, not alarmists, and after that everything was fine again. So I guess the word is getting out.

One of the best parts of the conference was after it was all over. Everyone was eating dinner, when a loud buzzing went off all around the room, including on my hip. I looked at my phone … tornado alert, take shelter now. I’ve never lived in tornado country, so I followed the example of the locals in the hotel who did … well … nothing. It started pouring down rain, a torrential downpour, lots of wind. When that cleared, I went outside to look for the tornado. I walked up on the hill behind the hotel to get a good view. It’s part of a long ridge, and a sign said that during the war the Union troops (locally called “Federal troops”, I noted) erected ten forts with batteries of artillery during the siege of the town. I could see why, it overlooks the whole city. The sky was chaotic …

knox chaotic sky

… but no sign of a tornado. As soon as I got back to the hotel, the rain and wind started up again, and in a half an hour it was dark, and the sky was full of lightning. I watched the storm from my 11th floor hotel window, I could see the window glass flexing in and out with the force of the gusts. And the lightning was everywhere, cloud to cloud, cloud to ground …

knox chaotic sky 2

From the news tonight:

Tornadoes were also reported in Tennessee and West Virginia Sunday afternoon and evening. Just north of Knoxville, Tenn., near the Kentucky border, the Claiborne County emergency manager reported that 10 homes had been “completely destroyed.”

A most fitting end to a most diverse and interesting conference. Lightning and wind have picked up again as I write this, here’s the radar from my phone. Knoxville is the blue ball in the middle, the storm is moving southwards, and the lighting is getting amazing again.

knox radar

Anyhow, that was my weekend. My thanks again to the DDP for putting on a good show. After three hours sleep I’ll fly out tomorrow at 4:35 AM, home for one day to see the good lady, and then off again Wednesday to Vancouver Island, where I’m signed on as first mate on a fishing boat delivery to southern Oregon.

My best to all, keep up the struggle, I’ll post when and as I can.

w.

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Tom Harley
July 27, 2014 9:55 pm

An excellent write-up as usual, Willis, thanks. While you were doing your speech, I was traveling in the Great Sandy Desert in Western Australia, looking at plant species suited to landscaping and horticulture. Very cold nights around 1 or 2C, led to the first day in years where I had to keep my hoodie on all day. The vegetation was in fantastic condition, what with all the extra CO2 and that. The area should be named Great Sandy Gardens, is part of the untapped, gas rich, Canning Basin.

bushbunny
July 27, 2014 10:03 pm

Good my friend, I have a picture of my son sitting between two stock men (farmers) outside our pub with two tanks of CO2 behind them. Taken about 30 years ago. Labelled Beer. CO2 is used to add to beer in a keg before it is tapped. If they wanted to lower the CO2 in Oz, the Greens would become immediately unpopular and most probably ….. dunked in a stream or tar and feathered. One had to turn off the CO2 every night or you would end up with froth the next day.
LOL. Have a good time on the fishing boat.

July 27, 2014 10:18 pm

I like the approach of your talk.
First do no harm.
Make sure any cure is no worse than the disease — if there is a disease.
EPA fictions about lives saved and enhanced in support of their regulations will probably be received well by doctors, too. They get enough of that in FDA cancer and toxicity studies. Same chapter and verse, different singers.

John F. Hultquist
July 27, 2014 10:20 pm

Thanks Willis. Agree with your cost of energy topic. Good choice too.
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I’ve seen many storms as you describe, and others too. I was with a group working on trails a few years ago and we camped for a week in a cirque; water, and snow to keep food cold, came with the site. A storm set up over us and the lightning hit the ridges above us. The sound bounced around the rocky amphitheatre and then went down slope and faded in the distant forested valley. The near-constant noise and lightning lasted about 30 minutes. A grand and spectacular show!

John F. Hultquist
July 27, 2014 10:22 pm

I’ve seen . . .
[Fixed. -w.]

bushbunny
July 27, 2014 10:30 pm

I’ve driven through a dangerous thunderstorm, I couldn’t stop, but as there was lightening crashing all around us, my friend said ‘Stop under a tree’. No way. Then we emerged in sunshine, and there was hail banked up along the road. I’ve never been so frightened in my life!

ranchorelaxo61
July 27, 2014 10:30 pm

I miss traveling across the USA, brings back memories.

bushbunny
July 27, 2014 10:31 pm

I have found in Australia, that the change of seasons seems to herald worse storms. Has anyone else noticed this?

John Coleman
July 27, 2014 10:45 pm

It has been forty years since I visited Knoxville. Its great to hear the square is even better. Yeah. As for the DDP, it is strong group with great conferences. It has been a decade since I had my turn. I am very glad to hear they are continuing the battle. As for Dr. Singer, he is my ultimate climate skeptic hero and is wonderful that he is still sharp and fighting the battle at 90. And, you Willis; you have style and great brain power. That is a neat combination. Thanks for the update.

July 27, 2014 10:51 pm

Willis,
Great report, thanks.
Was a little confused on your comment about TVA, here is a link to their 2012 fuel mix: http://www.tva.com/power/nuclear/pdf/Nuclear_White_Paper.pdf
Hydro was 10%, with coal and nuclear handling the majority of the load.
Also, 800PPM in a banquet hall is very acceptable. Indoor CO2 levels have little correlation to ambient levels, being controlled by the HVAC system.
I too, carry a CO2 meter everywhere I go, it’s part of my toolkit for analyzing building operations.
I have been in 3 energy conservation seminars recently where the conference rooms were above 1,200PPM. Their HVAC systems had airside economizers and should have been pulling 100% OSA into the building for free cooling. While 1,200 is above normal acceptable limits, it is not dangerous. However, with full stomachs and bad speakers, it can still put you to sleep…

bushbunny
July 27, 2014 10:53 pm

A bit off topic, congrats Willis anyway. But the USA embraces different climate zones, from Alpine to subtropical and desert. Oh and Alaska too of course. The larger the land mass, you will get this anyway. Look at Australia. Most of our land mass is thought to be desert. Then we have a monsoon region up North. Usually if you see the map, the only green parts are within 50 miles of the ocean. The precipitation does reduce inland in areas till we get to the red centre. We are lucky on the Northern Tablelands, we are higher up than the NW plains. We do get four seasons too. Anyway, enjoy your trip. I’ve only stopped in America, transit, New York, San Fran and Hawaii, but you being Northern Hemisphere, we sometimes get a view of what our winters might be too.

bushbunny
July 27, 2014 10:57 pm

I loved Hawaii. But the immigration guard was very rude to us in New York. My 15 month old ran under the rail and he said sternly. “Retrieve your kid, hasn’t been cleared yet.” Likely terrorist eh? That was in 1965.

Claude Harvey
July 27, 2014 11:17 pm

I spent the better part of ten years of my life laboring in that “…huge building across the street” from the Knoxville Mall (TVA’s “Twin Towers”). I made my bones over some ten years in that building as an electrical engineer designing hydro, pumped storage, fossil-fired and nuclear power generating plants. It’s a small world after all.

Greg Goodman
July 27, 2014 11:20 pm

“When the pulley-driven wheel turns, the vertical shaft with the four steel balls (one unseen behind) suspended on flexible spring steel blades spins as well, and the balls are driven outwards by centripetal force. This pulls the upper brass ring downwards against the adjustable tension of the spring at the upper right, and controls a valve which regulates the amount of energy entering the system … a most elegant version of an ancient design.”
rpm of engine proportional to energy input.
F = m w^2 r
displacement of brass ring proportion to force
energy input (negatively) proportional to postisiton of brass ring.
A classic case of negative feedback control.
With the exception of the square law in the centripetal most of it linear. The square law will mean postitive excursions are more tightly controlled than negative ones.
When the boiler pressure is higher the control variable ( rpm ) will stabalise at a slightly higher value in order to effect a change in the control value. This is also a typical feature of feedback control system.
This is something that I pointed out when you intitial wrote about you “governor” hypthesis.
“As someone who holds that the climate is regulated not by feedback but by a governor system, it was of great interest.”
A governor is a feedback controller, what is the distinction that you are trying to make?

July 27, 2014 11:54 pm

As someone who holds that the climate is regulated not by feedback but by a governor system
A governor (like Watts’) IS a feedback system. You might want to investigate control theory as the Watt governor is often given as an example of a feedback system. Dam EE thinking anyway, eh?
I did some work at the Robert Shaw plant in Knoxville. Designing self tuning PID controllers.

July 28, 2014 12:01 am

Greg Goodman says:
July 27, 2014 at 11:20 pm
How amusing that our comments were back to back.

climatereason
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July 28, 2014 12:55 am

If any of you guys are ever in my neck of the words-SW England-its worth dropping into Dartmouth where the first practical stream engine can be found dating from 1712 predating Watts by Half a century
http://www.devonmuseums.net/Thomas-Newcomen-Engine/Devon-Museums/
The pilgrim Fathers also called in here for some repairs en route to America shorrly after setting off from nearby Plymouth
tonyb

Pete in Cumbria
July 28, 2014 1:56 am

Ah wow, co-incidence or what= I’ve just helped myself to a new toy in the shape of a ‘handheld’ CO2 meter.
One thing you quickly learn is that the very last thing you do with one is to actually ‘hold it in your hand’. Unless you’ve got arms at least 10ft long.
Simply holding it in front of you and whispering the words “testing testing 123′, as you might do with a microphone, will send it off the scale and it’ll need at least 5 minutes (all on its lonesome) and in a stiff breeze to re-stabilize its reading.
If possible, attach it to your lappy, walk well away and let the machine take the readings.

tonyn
July 28, 2014 2:21 am

“But the poorer you are, the larger a percentage of your expenses goes to energy costs (primarily heating, cooling, and transportation)”
And more fundamentally, artificial light … which allows an extension of the productive day.

July 28, 2014 2:26 am

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/06/01/obamas-big-epa-announcement-tomorrow-translates-directly-to-higher-electricity-prices/#comment-1652143
“The President thinks his plan will “boost the economy by $43 billion to $74 billion” – he’s living in a fantasy world.”
– TRUE
My American friends – I am deeply sorry for your misfortune.
No good can come when idiot politicians fool with energy policy.
Like atmospheric CO2, cheap abundant energy is essential for life.

richardscourtney
July 28, 2014 2:34 am

climatereason:
At July 28, 2014 at 12:55 am you rightly say the Newcomen predates the steam engine.
However, the Newcomen engine was not a steam engine. It was an air-pressure engine which condensed steam to generate partial vacuum in its large, vertical cylinder.
Steam was fed into the cylinder below the piston, and cold water was then added below the piston. The cold water cooled the steam which condensed to water. The condensed water has about a thousandth of the volume of the steam from which it condensed and, therefore, a partial vacuum was obtained in the cylinder beneath the piston. Air pressure pushed the piston down to equalise pressure above and below the piston.
The piston was connected to a rocker beam and a ‘balance box’ which swung like a pendulum. So, when the piston reached the end of its down-stroke it was pulled back up by the swing of the ‘balance box’.
The cylinder was emptied of water and filled with steam during the piston’s up-stroke so the cycle was repeated.
But this is not a steam engine which uses the power of high pressure steam. It was an air engine which condensed steam to enable use of air pressure.
Materials capable of being used as pressure vessels were needed before piston-driven steam engines were possible.
However, nearly two thousand years ago Hero of Alexandria devised and built a steam engine which was used to ‘magically’ operate a temple door. A modern version of his ‘aeolipile’ is shown and explained e.g. here. His steam engine is also the earliest known steam turbine and the earliest known jet engine.
Richard

Greg Goodman
July 28, 2014 2:44 am

MSimon: “I did some work at the Robert Shaw plant in Knoxville. Designing self tuning PID controllers.”
It’s not my idea but the idea of a PID controller may be more applicable to tropical climate than a simple feedback. I did a series of plots showing how tropical climate manages not only to stabalise temperature but also maintain the degree.day produce ( P in PID ).
http://climategrog.wordpress.com/?attachment_id=312

July 28, 2014 3:04 am

The next day another maid told me she’d been upset when she saw the word “Climate” on some paperwork in another guest’s room, she was all upset about the idea of a climate conference … but then she read a bit more and realized it was skeptics, not alarmists, and after that everything was fine again.

I find it sad that any gathering to discuss any field of science should be considered upsetting.

eo
July 28, 2014 3:04 am

Maybe somebody should bring those carbon dioxde meters to ipcc meetings to give the delegates real world meanings to the data. You could add the airplanes conveying the delegates.i hope they will not jump out of the airplanes.

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