People send me stuff. In this case I have received an embargoed paper and press release from Nature from another member of the news media who wanted me to look at it.
The new paper is scheduled to be published in Nature and is embargoed until 10AM PDT Sunday morning, July 20th. That said, Bob Tisdale and I have been examining the paper, which oddly includes co-authors Dr. Stephan Lewandowsky and Dr. Naomi Oreskes and is on the topic of ENSO and “the pause” in global warming. I say oddly because neither Lewandowsky or Oreskes concentrates on physical science, but direct their work towards psychology and science history respectively.
Tisdale found a potentially fatal glaring oversight, which I verified, and as a professional courtesy I have notified two people who are listed as authors on the paper. It has been 24 hours, and I have no response from either. Since it is possible that they have not received these emails, I thought it would be useful to post my emails to them here.
It is also possible they are simply ignoring the email. I just don’t know. As we’ve seen previously in attempts at communication with Dr. Lewandowsky, he often turns valid criticisms into puzzles and taunts, so anything could be happening behind the scenes here if they have read my email. It would seem to me that they’d be monitoring their emails ahead of publication to field questions from the many journalists who have been given this press release, so I find it puzzling there has been no response.
Note: for those that would criticize my action as “breaking the embargo” I have not even named the paper title, its DOI, or used any language from the paper itself. If I were an author, and somebody spotted what could be a fatal blunder that made it past peer review, I’d certainly want to know about it before the paper press release occurs. It is about 24 hours to publication, so they still have time to respond, and hopefully this message on WUWT will make it to them.
Here is what I sent (email addresses have been link disabled to prevent them from being spambot harvested):
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From: Anthony
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:01 AM
To: james.risbey at csiro.au
Subject: Fw: Questions on Risbey et al. (2014)
Hello Dr. Risbey,
At first I had trouble finding your email, which is why I sent it to Ms.Oreskes first. I dare not send it to professor Lewandowsky, since as we have seen by example, all he does is taunt people who have legitimate questions.
Can you answer the question below?
Thank you for your consideration.
Anthony Watts
—–Original Message—–
From: Anthony
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 8:48 AM
To: oreskes at fas.harvard.edu
Subject: Questions on Risbey et al. (2014)
Dear Dr. Oreskes,
As a climate journalist running the most viewed blog on climate, I have been graciously provided an advance copy of the press release and paper Risbey et al. (2014) that is being held under embargo until Sunday, July 20th. I am in the process of helping to co-author a rebuttal to Risbey et al. (2014) I think we’ve spotted a major blunder, but I want to check with a team member first.
One of the key points of Risbey et al. is the claim that the selected 4 “best” climate models could simulate the spatial patterns of the warming and cooling trends in sea surface temperatures during the hiatus period.
But reading and re-reading the paper we cannot determine where it actually identifies the models selected as the “best” 4 and “worst” 4 climate models.
Risbey et al. identifies the 18 originals, but not the other 8 that are “best” or “worst”.
Risbey et al. presented histograms of the modeled and observed trends for the 15-year warming period (1984-1998) before the 15-year hiatus period in cell b of their Figure 1. So, obviously, that period was important. Yet Risbey et al. did not present how well or poorly the 4 “best” models simulated the spatial trends in sea surface temperatures for the important period of 1984-1998.
Is there some identification of the “best” and “worst” referenced in the paper that we have overlooked, or is there a reason for this oversight?
Thank you for your consideration.
Anthony Watts
WUWT
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UPDATE: as of 10:15AM PDT July 20th, the paper has been published online here:
http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate2310.html
Well-estimated global surface warming in climate projections selected for ENSO phase
Abstract
The question of how climate model projections have tracked the actual evolution of global mean surface air temperature is important in establishing the credibility of their projections. Some studies and the IPCC Fifth Assessment Report suggest that the recent 15-year period (1998–2012) provides evidence that models are overestimating current temperature evolution. Such comparisons are not evidence against model trends because they represent only one realization where the decadal natural variability component of the model climate is generally not in phase with observations. We present a more appropriate test of models where only those models with natural variability (represented by El Niño/Southern Oscillation) largely in phase with observations are selected from multi-model ensembles for comparison with observations. These tests show that climate models have provided good estimates of 15-year trends, including for recent periods and for Pacific spatial trend patterns.
of interest is this:
UPDATE2: rebuttal has been posted
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Anthony,
Very well written!! Nothing “extra” added, simply asking a question.
It will be interesting to see if you get a response, or the release gets pushed back.
Friends helping friends.
Always with the negative waves. I’m sure that it couldn’t possibly make any difference to the results.
Best? Worst? They’re all as bad as each other so does it really matter? With climate models its more about “artistic impression” than reality. Think ice skating versus ice hockey…
I have 4 best guesses as to the response.
It will of course be of interest to me to know how close the best and worst are to the actual temperatures as far as they are known.
Nothing could be better for us all than a validated model in the field of climate science.
Anthony,
I was going to ask if you were sent the supplementary data that so often accompanies papers published in Nature, but it is unusual for papers relying on separate supplements to refer the reader to them, so I am supposing this is not an oversight of the sender in this case. Very well handled.
REPLY: I asked the journalist if an SI was included, and none was listed. Still such an important label of the best and worst models, central to the claim of the paper, surely would not be relegated to the depths of an SI. – Anthony
So we have a shrink,and a history teacher pretending to be climate “scientists”? Just how does one get in on this scam?
Lew again huh. He’s probably only doing this so he can write some stupid study about the reception the paper receives.
I guess Loo is out of paper again, perhaps he could be deterred by using high gloss instead of newsprint.
according
http://www.mdpi.com/2076-0787/3/3/299/pdf
This actually is a debate around political/ideological motivated use of science as a tool to promote political ideology and solutions and science resisting this?
“2. ‘The Plan’
For more than 25 years the conventional view has been that an international political solution to
climate change can be negotiated if driven by the engine of science. That is, if a strong enough
scientific consensus on the causes and consequences of anthropogenic climate change could be forged
and sustained, then the compelling force of such rationality would over-ride the differences in
worldviews, beliefs, values and ideologies which characterise the human world. Such a scientific
consensus would bring about the needed policy solutions. This is the “If-then” logic of computer
programming, the conviction that the right way to tackle climate change is through what Dan Sarewitz
at Arizona State University has called “The Plan” [8]. And there are those who still believe in this
project. They excoriate others who obstruct and obscure this pure guiding light of rationality—a
position adopted, for example, by Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway in their recent book Merchants of
Doubt [9].”
WUWT mistake again..Throwing your pearls to the pigs. I would have kept the info, allowed it to be published and THEN only then nailed both the authors and The Journal. Huge mistake once again by WUWT re SG
REPLY: your opinion is being given all the due consideration it deserves, thank you – Anthony
You caught them napping, I suppose.
It might be helpful to find out the names of the peer reviewers…
Omission is a better word than blunder
If it has been published I retract above LOL
“It is also possible they are simply ignoring the email.”
Well let’s put it this way. Had your email contained effusive praise for their brilliant work, they’d have answered you in a New York minute.
Would it make sense to also send your questions to your contacts at Nature that wanted you to look at it? Or were they simply attempting to generate media interest in the article rather than trying to improve the quality?
REPLY: to be clear, this was sent to me from another journalist, not the Nature editors or PR department – Anthony
Eliza says:
July 19, 2014 at 10:32 am
Mr. Watts is interested in collecting more brownie points towards sainthood. He is not interested in effective opposition to the CO2 scam.
REPLY: your ridiculous opinion is noted, and wrong – just watch and see what happens. – Anthony
Anthony, the best models are secret, as you would only try to poke holes in them. We should just take Lewandowsky’s word for it, after all he is a doctor.
PS. I hope you did not rupture anything important snickering at my obvious sarcasm…
Hmmm… Snicker Snark beware the Jabberydork!
Oh looky, time for me meds!
Anthony,
Myguess is that your notifications went into the two individuals’ junk/spam mail, and they do not check this daily (or ever?).
REPLY: I check my spam folders daily, but noting it here almost certainly ensures they will see it, even if my emails are relegated to spam. – Anthony
It would appear I am susceptible to conspiracy theories as I can’t help wondering what contribution Oreskes and Lew could have made to this paper.
Is it possible that the choice of “best” and “worst” is not calculated by comparison with the real world but rather with socially constructed viewpoints? They could contribute to a subjective choice of models.
In which case, the whole thing becomes a circular as the flight of the oozlum bird.
But I might be a conspiracy theorist
Lew must suffer from that embarrassing syndrome where individuals suffer an overwhelming urge to have their opinions shot down in flames.
I think psychologists call it ROOFOFF – Recursive Overwhelming Obsessive Fury Over Fanciful Facts.
By the way:
New Scientist reported on Lewandowsky’s Recursive Fury paper in its Feedback section this week.
New Scientist found no fault in the paper and reported that it proved sceptics are all nutters and the complaints could be ignored as it was proven that sceptics are all nutters and that the complaints are actually more proof that sceptics are all nutters…
They didn’t mention that the paper was debunked.
Presumably next week Feedback will include “Buzz Aldrin believes the Moon Landings were faked” as apparently they believe he does.
“Pause? Dat ain’t no steenkin’ pause! Dat is the climate engine getting a tune up and revving it’s freakin’ motor to run right over you steenkin’ denialists!”
Remember- The cold Antarctic glacial runoff is feeding the expanding Antarctic sea ice extent. The oceans are reaching their max capacity for storing CO2 without causing mass extinctions. We can’t predict the weather for 10 days out yet we sure as heck can model the climate for decades in the future because hey climate is not weather. 🙂
Yet *another* explanation for the Pause – is that 14 now? Amazing, considering the science was ‘settled’.