I kid you not. The level of stupid here is unprecedented. Forget the UFO theories, or the fact that it is Yamal, which started Climategate through the distortion of tree ring data and the witholding of FOI requests on the issue, or forget that Yamal is roughly translated as ‘End of The World’, no, forget all those. This statement from a supposed scientist takes climate craziness to a whole new level. Video follows.
Anna Kurchatova from the Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Centre, thinks the crater was formed by a mixture of water, salt and gas igniting an underground explosion, a result of global warming.
h/t to WUWT contributor, John Goetz
It looks like an underground cavity collapsed, a sinkhole rather like the cenotes in the Yucatan. The geology is permafrost on sands, sandy loams and peat.
Good observation Servius. Here is a brief analysis of the geology. Thermokarsts page 11.
http://www.geobotany.org/library/talks/OrekhovPT2010_yamal_tal100408.pdf
I heard that the original Daily Mail headline was going to be, “Learn how to create your own global warming sinkhole with this one weird trick.”
rip
Frost heaving caused a sinkhole.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frost_heaving
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/71/Permafrost_stone-rings_hg.jpg/220px-Permafrost_stone-rings_hg.jpg
“thinks the crater was formed by a mixture of water, salt and gas igniting”
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I’m never making spaghetti again.
So — why do all the references to “Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Centre” that I find all reference this article? Doesn’t the “Sub-Arctic Scientific Research Centre” publish anything? Or is it because the real name is in Russian and this is just the translation? In which case don’t they publish anything in English? (Also: “Centre” is the UK spelling, in the USA it would be “Center”.)
Clearly caused by warming in the deep ocean by thousandths of a degree.
I think they have tried to dig out a mammoth, but it exploded like a whale before they could remove it. Seems just as likely than some warming.
Simple. Someone dropped a match into the long drop.
Ah, someone agrees with me! Some have objected that the ejecta is concentrated around the edge, not flung out for a distance, but that might be because there wasn’t much stuff to eject. The object punched through the roof of the cavern like a nail into an egg shell. . .
/Mr Lynn
Looks like a big black hole to me. Maybe it was caused by a slug of anti-matter?
This is not from natural causes, nor is it new. It is from underground nuclear testing and the hole is enhanced by CG. Thank you very much.
Since that is the arctic and was once under the sea, it could be a small salt dome that collapsed and left the impression that the stuff on top is ejecta.
I seriously doubt that Anna Kurchatova used the word “ignited” as in “fiery explosion” and what’s more Anthony I think you know that. Either that or you should know better than ascribe accuracy to quotes taken from the Daily Mail.
What she was saying, and it can only be speculation at this point, albeit reasonable informed speculation, is that the permafrost in that region is melting rapidly which naturally results in the release of gases underground and those gases could build up to the point where they could explode out of a weak point, like a champagne cork. That is not crazy, that actually makes some sense. Equally plausible (maybe more plausibel) is that the underlying ice just plain melted and the pingo collapsed. Either way its not crazy to attribute this structure to increased temperatures since, you know, that is what leads to melting.
You know Anthony you keep doing this. If your position on something is logically sound and supportable it should be unnecessary to resort to disingenuous tactics like putting misleading spin on otherwise valid view points to convince the weak minded to your view point. Either your view stands on its own or it doesn’t.
REPLY: Oh, please. I made no spin whatsoever, I called it crazy (see the title) and now you say I put spin on the exact words I quoted from the article that I call crazy. I’m really not concerned that you are “concerned”, because your “concern” is simply not warranted.
Pingo as a cause, sure. Global Warming as a cause, still crazy. It’s summer there, so melting happens. – Anthony
Warning shot from the Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator. We need to get out of the way.
The USSR left quite a mess, environmentally. Perhaps this is more.
Reblogged this on Head Space and commented:
Looking over the stratigraphy of Barents Sea Region, there is certainly other options besides ‘global warming/climate change disruption,’ etc.
Why not? Global Warming cauased Al Gore didn’t it?
Or perhaps; If Al Gore didn’t exist, Gaia would have had to create him.
You haven’t been paying attention. Yamal was Briffa’s baby, not Mann’s.
pfff, that’s not a hole, They’re probably just making a commercial for that new black material
http://www.buzzfeed.com/richardhjames/scientists-create-a-new-black-the-darkest-material-ever-made
Further to MaxedOutMama says:
July 15, 2014 at 7:51 pm
Here is a link to Parks Canada and a couple of photos of pingos and collapsed pingos.
http://www.pc.gc.ca/eng/docs/v-g/pingo/sec3/natcul1.aspx
Look familiar?
New Video is out on the Crater,
I have no idea what they are saying in Russian so maybe some one can translate it.
@chris Beal – I do not understand Russian either, but the new pictures seem to support the Pingo conclusion reached by several. Thanks for the video.
Well, where is it? What are it’s coordinates?
One poster above said there al many such surface features at 69.32.54N 70.15.19E
It is on the Yamal Peninsula
I read that it is 25 miles from the Bovanenkovo gas field. (NYPost, 7/16)
http://www.gazprom.com/about/production/projects/deposits/bm/
According to the Gazprom map, Bovanenkovo should be at about Lat and Long 70 12′ N 62 20′ E.
But on Google Earth I don’t see drilling pads, pipeline roads, or any other man made surface feature on Imagery dated 4/9/2013.
Bovanenkovo Gas Field should be at about Lat and Long 70 12′ N 67 20′ E