Quote of the Week – get your war crimes trial tickets now!

qotw_croppedSometimes you just have to laugh. One of my blog spawn (a not so anonymous academic at a “respected institution of higher learning”) decided to have a go at our post: Despicable climate ugliness courtesy of Lawrence Torcello – assistant professor of philosophy at Rochester Institute of Technology

Yet in his typical ivory tower enabled myopia, his case gets weakened by yet another (not so) anonymous coward who’s hoping for my perp walk to The Hague:

But the Nazis were only small potatoes – they merely murdered millions. But right now, today, we are witnessing the murder-in-slow-motion of at least a billion people. A crime perpetrated primarily through the use of a concerted propaganda campaign. Can anyone explain to me how it was proper to prosecute Goebbels, yet the Koch brothers and the former head of Exxon Mobil should not be similarly prosecuted?

And yes, I believe Anthony Watts should be frogmarched to The Hague as well. No question, in my mind. In fact, I find the idea of a defense of his actions ethically reprehensible.

That comment was written by “gingerbaker” who just happens to be easy to find, since the link in his comment to his photo website and photo store is public information.

So, Bill Forsyth who I believe is “Ginger Baker”, you are welcome to tell me to my face right here, that exercising my constitutional free speech right to an opinion on climate is worthy of a war crimes style trial.

UPDATE: Speaking of musical connections (“Ginger Baker” is the drummer in Cream) maybe we can piggyback this trial onto the other first amendment trial, the Mann-Steyn Steamroller

For you scooter riding youngsters, who don’t get the joke, see this.

UPDATE2: Since the academic host of “and then theres hatespeech physics” decided that he’d better disappear the comment, once word got out he was being criticized for it, I offer this helpful screencap:

frog-marched

UPDATE3: Brandon Schollenberger looks at the larger universe of stupid surrounding that comment and the website, saying Stupidity is the real offense.

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Alan Robertson

Frog marched- that phrase has always had a certain spice to it.
Mwahahaaa

wsbriggs

Anthony,
I sincerely recommend you read this week’s editorial by L. Neil Smith on the ncc-1776 dot org website titled “The New Inquisition”. There are a number threads, climate, mental health, and guns that all face the prospect of having a new inquisition by those foul statists who want full control of our lives.

Richard Briscoe

If he’s going down the route of Nazi analogy, it shouldn’t be hard to at least get his basic facts straight.
Goebbels was never prosecuted, on account of he was dead by the end of the war.

WitchFinder General UEA

Wot a plonker

elpolacko

Such a mixed message of hate. Off to the “showers” for the likes of us I suppose… from the enlightened and altruistic consensus.

Hey….Gingerbuddy…..Your neurotic fear is showing! ROTFLMAO!!!

JJM Gommers

It really starts to worry me. This kind of talk is beyond imagination. To make comparison even worser than the Nazi’s. Maybe he forgot his prescription to take, that would make it understandable.

richard

where abouts,
“But the Nazis were only small potatoes – they merely murdered millions. But right now, today, we are witnessing the murder-in-slow-motion of at least a billion people”
the world population is increasing at a 100,000+ per day, biggest increase in that hot continent Africa.
The UN predicts by 2100 Africa will have 4x the population of China today.

Keith Gordon

The likes of this “ginger-baker” should be frog marched to the nearest shrink, obviously in need of serious psychiatric help, probably needs interning.
Keith Gordon

The poor fellow is deluded. Furthermore, his “opinion” is so obviously intolerant and so akin to hate-speech that it is likely to turn fifty people off for every soul he convinces.
Perhaps he dreams he can lead many, as a sort of rabble-rouser, but he is more likely to generate an angry backlash against himself.
I’m sorry you have to put up with this nonsense, Anthony. Thank you for all you do.

Theo Goodwin

“But the Nazis were only small potatoes – they merely murdered millions. But right now, today, we are witnessing the murder-in-slow-motion of at least a billion people. A crime perpetrated primarily through the use of a concerted propaganda campaign. Can anyone explain to me how it was proper to prosecute Goebbels, yet the Koch brothers and the former head of Exxon Mobil should not be similarly prosecuted?”
This reasoning is tortured – seriously tortured. The obvious response is that no crime has been committed. Apparently, the writer believes that crimes that exist only in his imagination deserve the same punishment as actual crimes.

Dave

I agree that sometimes you have to laugh.
But what people like BF do is disgusting. It is so hate filled, so vitriolically, so devoid of humanity, that it is symptomatic of mental illness.
And it sad not humorous.

Windsong

Thinking I will start a list of people to be arrested and tried once hypothermia becomes the leading cause of death for the elderly. “Ginger Baker” will be on it.

Latitude

pathetic….someone trying to elevate their self importance…by acting more concerned
Now it’s contest of liberals… to see who can out concern each other

richard

40 countries coming out of poverty, populations living longer,
maybe Gingerbaker is confusing today with the past
Megadroughts have historically led to the mass migration of humans away from drought affected lands, resulting in a significant population decline from pre-drought levels. They are suspected of playing a primary role in the collapse of several pre-industrial civilizations, including the Anasazi of the North American Southwest,[2] the Khmer Empire of Cambodia,[3] the Mayan of Mesoamerica,[4] the Tiwanaku of Bolivia,[5] and the Yuan Dynasty of China.[6] As such they constitute one of the greatest threats to human civilization. The African Sahel region in particular has suffered multiple megadroughts throughout history, with the most recent lasting from approximately 1400 AD to 1750 AD.[7] North America experienced at least four megadroughts during the Medieval Warm Period.

HGW xx/7

“Ginger Baker” was your screen name? Really? Way to stay “hip” and “with it”, man. Yeah, you’re totally counter-culture and out there. Not a burnt-out, vacuous film of hippie scum at all.
I must say, though, that these Koch brothers really freak these trippy love-children out. I hadn’t heard about them until a couple years ago, but now I’m tempted to throw them a donation just so they don’t stop fighting against the Stasi-esque harbingers of “peace”.

ConfusedPhoton

As someone has already said Goebbels was never prosecuted. He arranged for his 6 children to be given lethal injections while he and his life killed themselves. Futhermore, the Nazi’s were responsible for the deaths of millions but rather tens of millions!
Another unthinking zealot!
Should Hauge be Hague?

Chuck L

The more the data and recently, the tide of public opinion, turn against the alarmists, the more intolerant of opposing views and the louder their mewling become .

hunter

The AGW believers are willing to have those who disagree with them about the weather put to death.
What a sick bunch of twits.
Eff ’em.

It seems that some alarmist kooks love the butchering of billions. They just do not like what they perceive to be the choice of the slaughtered. As long as they can pick them, they are fine with killing people.

Scarface

Funny (sad actually) that the man cannot see the nazi-tactics he and his fellow-warmistas have in mind for skeptics.
Keep up the good fight, Anthony. The endgame has started and your work will be essential for victory.

rabbit

One thing that made some people turn away from the climate alarmist crowd was that there were too many articles that in essence said “All of this personal liberty, democracy, and free enterprize were great fun, but now that we have a global crisis on our hands that sort of luxury will have to be curtailed.” And other alarmists who might have disagreed with these opinions did little to denounce them.
There is, in other words, a subtle but distinct totalitarian undercurrent.

Well lets include all those who are/were in favor of using food for auto fuel. How many thousands/millions have starved from the increase in food prices.
Then lets include all those opposed to The keystone pipe line and drilling on federal lands. Thereby increasing the price of fuel for everyone on earth along with increasing environmental damage by the drilling in less environmentally safe countries.
Then there are all the kooks who are climate warmest who have turned a naturally occurring plant food into a pollutant. You know the people who want to stop CO2 in our atmosphere, that has by itself increased the food supply 11%. Atmospheric CO2 that is at near long term lows and if it falls much lower will kill off all plant life.

Willis Eschenbach

How come you get a war crimes trial and I don’t? Mom always liked you better. I demand my day in court!
w.

Jeff Mitchell

Frog marched? How? Anthony isn’t French is he? The origin of the term frog-march apparently has nothing to do with nationality though, as the article at this link explains: http://www.word-detective.com/111703.html. You will need to search for “frog” to get to the correct post.

This is why socialists are dangerous people. The more control they try to take, the harder we must fight back.

Gary

Frog march: To carry a person face-down with one person holding each limb. To forcibly relocate a person, especially in a degrading or humiliating manner. (Wiktionary)
We all make fun at such comments as these made by “gingerbaker,” but it’s truly scary. These are the very attitudes that allowed men to physically and “legally” put human beings into gas chambers, then burn those human carcasses in massive furnaces. It has always been grandiose ideals, like these that are now being expressed, that has led to mass machine gun deaths, mass burials, mass graves, genocide. It isn’t funny. It isn’t humorous. It is history before our eyes. And the very ones making these comments call men like Anthony Watts ‘Nazis’? Where is the anti-defamation league now? This is becoming an intolerable work of the worst kind of hate speech. I fear where it will lead.

DickF

This isn’t funny any more. To those who would be tyrants who deny freedom of expression to others (like Torcello and “gingerbaker,” an obvious coward who won’t even sign his real name to his odious nonsense), I offer the words of a great American patriot: “Give me liberty or give me death!”

Scott Basinger

Interesting website. I guess they gave up on their goal of “Trying to keep the discussion civil”. Maybe they should change their header to something a little more honest.

knr

It’s worth noting that the world’s biggest mast killers always claimed to be acting in ‘the interest of the people ‘ never did they say they hate them and that is why they acted as they did.
And it’s one good reason when you see the words ‘for the good of the people ‘ you should pay very good attention to what comes next.

Kenneth

“You are a slow learner, Winston.”
“How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.”
“Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”
― George Orwell, 1984

Jack C

Is he also guilty of identitidy theft – Ginger Baker was also the name of the drummer in Cream.
This guy is an idiot. But this kind of fascism/stalinism needs to be stopped.

milodonharlani

Hey, at least Burlington, VT is warmer today than yesterday, with wind chill all the way up to 25 F.

Is this guy for real? This ventures awfully close to Poe’s Law territory: A sufficiently advanced parody is indistinguishable from genuine moonbattery.

jayhd

“gingerbaker” has it wrong. It is the AGW CO2 is bad hoaxsters who have committed crimes against humanity by causing the diversion of hundreds of billions of our tax dollars to nonsense projects and research. Add to that the misery they have caused by making energy unaffordable for many of the world’s poor.

Thomas Lee Elifritz

Publishing someone’s name and address on the internet is so damn classy.

pat

Ginger Baker, beating the drums of the lunatics since 1970.

Harry Passfield

A shame that someone taking the name of the iconic Ginger Baker can sour cream with his incredible rant. But I have a couple of things to say to him: “What if you (and your alarmists) are wrong? What if your ‘cure’ causes more deaths than you think the sceptical cause does?”
Oh, and finally: Do you KNOW how to spell arrogant?

ossqss

Ironically, the slow motion deaths, by virtue of flawed energy policy based upon failed climate models, will be at the hand of the accuser in the end through cheap energy deprivation.

Bruce Cobb

Funny how totalitarianism and self-righteousness go hand in hand with his sort. Additionally, his type are typically cowards, so that makes him a yellow-bellied watermellon. He does not own the cajones to pay a visit here.

John Boles

And I bet ol’ Bill drives an SUV, and uses electricity, and heats his home, etc…

Harry Passfield

Thomas Lee Elifritz says:
March 19, 2014 at 10:14 am

“Publishing someone’s name and address on the internet is so damn classy.”

Does that mean, Thomas, that you are as shocked about the Greenpeace claim: “We know where you live”?

Tom in Florida

Ginger Baker is just trying to drum up some self importance.
When we look at all the misery this cold winter has caused the people of the U S, (blocked roads, accidents due to iced roads, extra fuel usage, to name a few) why would anyone want a colder Earth? It still makes no sense to me. Warmer is always better.

richard

maybe Ginger baker meant this,
65% of the world’s population live in countries where overweight and obesity kills … At least 2.8 million adults die each year as a result of being overweight or obese. ….

Magma

So, Bill Forsyth who I believe is “Ginger Baker”, you are welcome to tell me to my face right here, that exercising my constitutional free speech right to an opinion on climate is worthy of a war crimes style trial.
Don’t worry. In the next-to-zero chance such a thing ever happened, you could always get off by pleading ignorance. But be sure to archive this site for evidence.
[Reply: Isn’t it interesting that skeptical sites allow contrary comments like yours? Alarmist blogs would immediately delete such comments if they were aimed at their blog owners. ~ mod.]

Harry Passfield

Willis Eschenbach says:
March 19, 2014 at 9:48 am

“How come you get a war crimes trial and I don’t? Mom always liked you better. I demand my day in court!”

What do you call Willis Eschenbach in a suit? The Accused!

Thomas Lee Elifritz

Knowing and publishing are two different things. Was Anthony similarly outraged by the free speech claims of Mark Steyn and Rand Simberg? It’s his reputation to lose. He’s just lost it.
[Reply: You get free speech here. At alarmist blogs a skeptic’s comment like yours would never see the light of day. This way, you get to demonstrate hypocrisy. ~ mod.]

George A

If the climate alarmists were right, and we really could dial back CO2 and climate to preindustrial levels, that would actually kill a billion people from starvation.

True Conservative

Ah, Ginger Baker … truly one of the useful idiots. Just wait until your Stalinist prescriptions actually get implemented [they won’t; but let’s imagine] and you’re one of the first to no longer be useful!

Those pathetic people, they jumped onto the CAGW “bandwagon” to get their “fair share” of fame, notoriety, great jobs, free NSA Grant monies, etc., and now they are beginning to realize their “great flim-flam scam” is becoming obvious to the public and thus fear, fright and desperation has set in because they know very well that if they can’t keep those Average Temperatures increasing like they predicted then they will most likely be defamed, demoted, out of money and/or out of a job with no prospects of being hired by anyone.