The one-sided Conversation

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By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley

At The Conversation, a taxpayer-funded propaganda website based in Australia, Dr Rod Lamberts has suggested that in the climate debate those pushing the Party Line should disregard the mere facts and should advance their invaluable opinions instead.

He writes that Tony Abbott, Australia’s prime minister, Andrew Bolt, Australia’s chief sceptic, and one Monckton, Australia’s honorary visiting sceptic, should not be heeded, for we are mere “deniers” (that hate-speech word again).

I wrote the following article in reply, but The Conversation refused to publish it.

Their ground was that a mere expert reviewer for the IPCC with several reviewed publications to his credit did not have sufficient academic qualifications to be allowed to reply to a personal attack accusing him by name of lying and inviting an odious comparison with Holocaust deniers.

They told me that the site was for academics who could not get the sort of publicity I can get. They pretend to believe it is easier for skeptics than for true-believers to air their point of view.

I have replied that, if The Conversation will not allow me to answer this or any of numerous other unpleasant and often libellous personal attacks, other than in comments under the head postings, the matter will have to be dealt with in different and more impartial forum.

In the meantime, here is the article The Conversation dared not print.

In science, facts are all, opinions nothing

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Rod Lamberts argues that in the climate debate opinion should supplant fact: “The time for fact-based arguments is over”.

He echoes the chair of the Climate Change Authority in suggesting that sceptics – whom he implicitly compares with Holocaust deniers by labelling them “deniers” – are circulating “deliberate misinformation”.

He says: “Forget the Moncktonites, disregard the Boltists, and snub the Abbottsians. Ignore them, step around them, or walk over them.”

So much easier than answering us fact for fact.

Since Mr Lamberts names me, albeit in honourable company, let me reply with a dozen key facts.

Fact 1. There has been no global warming for up to 17 years 6 months.

True, one might argue that the mean of all five major global-temperature datasets shows no warming for only 13 years; or that no uncertainty interval is shown; or that the warming lurks in the deep ocean; or that natural cooling temporarily overwhelms manmade warming. Yet for well over a decade the atmosphere has not warmed, notwithstanding CO2 increases unprecedented in 800,000 years. No model predicted that as its best estimate.

Even Dr Pachauri, the IPCC’s climate-science chair, admitted the 17-year “pause” in Melbourne last year.

Fact 1 casts doubt on models’ predictive skill, leading to Fact 2. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, for which I am an expert reviewer, has explicitly substituted its own “expert assessment” for the models on which it formerly relied, cutting its predicted warming over 30 years by almost a third from 0.7 to 0.5 Cº. It has moved significantly towards the sceptics whom Mr Lamberts disfiguringly excoriates as “deniers”.

Fact 3. The uncertainty intervals in all the key climate datasets are uncommonly large. In physics, every measurement is subject to uncertainty. The uncertainty in the RSS satellite temperature dataset is so great that there may have been no warming for 25 years.

Fact 4. Likewise, we cannot measure ocean heat content precisely. Since the atmosphere is not warming, the ocean – 1000 times denser and right next door – is probably not warming much either. On such measurements as we have, it is warming at one-sixth the model-predicted rate.

Fact 5. By the same token, we cannot measure whether the ocean is becoming less alkaline. All we can say is that mean pH is 7.8-8.4, with still wider coastal variations. The acid-base balance cannot change much: the oceans are overwhelmingly buffered by the basalt basins in which they lie.

Given measurement uncertainties, any assertion that “the science is settled” is meaningless.

It is trivially true that returning CO2 to the atmosphere whence it came will – other things being equal – cause warming. But the central question in the climate debate is “How much?” The answer, so far, is “Very little”. The world has warmed by just 0.7 Cº in the 60 years since 1954.

Yet in the previous 60 years, when our influence was negligible, the world had warmed by 0.5 Cº. The supposedly massive influence of Man has pushed up the warming rate by the equivalent of a third of a Celsius degree per century, and that is all.

In central England, a good proxy for global temperature (over the past 120 years the warming rate in the region was within 0.01 Cº of the global rate) the warming rate was equivalent to 4 Cº per century from 1695-1735.

Fact 6, then: the rate of global warming since we might first have influenced it in the 1950s is far from unprecedented.

Fact 7: Two-thirds of the global warming once predicted by the now more cautious IPCC arose not from greenhouse gases directly but from “temperature feedbacks” – forcings that may arise in response to direct warming.

Though the IPCC once tried to claim that the values of these temperature feedbacks were well constrained, they are not. The most important feedback is from water vapour. By the Clausius-Clapeyron relation, the atmosphere is capable of carrying near-exponentially more water vapour as it warms. But just because it can there is no certainty that it will. On some measures, column water vapour is declining. Measurement uncertainty again.

Fact 8 follows. The equation by which models represent mutual amplification of the feedbacks they take as net-positive comes from electronic circuitry, where at a loop gain of unity the voltage transitions instantly from the positive to the negative rail.

However, this singularity has no physical equivalent in the climate. Accordingly, a damping term is required, to allow not only for the fact that positive feedbacks such as the water-vapour feedback cannot, as voltage can, suddenly reverse their effect when the loop gain exceeds 1 but also for Fact 9. Global temperature is remarkably homoeostatic.

For the past 420,000 years, absolute mean global surface temperature has varied by little more than 1% from the long-run average. It is very difficult to warm the world. Our changing 1/2500 of the air from oxygen to plant food on business as usual over the next 100 years may well prove irrelevant. Any realistic damping term in the feedback-amplification equation removes the global warming problem altogether.

So to Fact 10. An increasing body of papers in the reviewed literature is following my own 2008 paper in Physics and Society in finding climate sensitivity very much lower than the models: perhaps below 1 Cº.

Fact 11 follows. Climate scientists know these uncertainties. The widest survey of scientific opinion ever conducted found that only 0.5% of 11,944 climate papers published from 1991-2011 had said most global warming since 1950 was manmade. Given the uncertainties, Mr Abbot’s government should enquire whether it is cost-effective to mitigate today or to adapt the day after tomorrow.

Fact 12. The economic literature overwhelmingly concludes that it is vastly cheaper to adapt the day after tomorrow than to act today. Even if the science were settled, Dr Lamberts is wrong to say the ends justify the means. For the game may well not be worth the carb0n-emitting candle.

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March 18, 2014 8:47 am

I say again, there is another fact to be asserted.
There needs to be more attention to research conducted by the Connollys and reported in their papers and discussions here: http://globalwarmingsolved.com/2013/11/summary-the-physics-of-the-earths-atmosphere-papers-1-3/
They investigated readings from radiosonde balloons, attempting to measure the impact upon the atmosphere’s temperature profile from increasing amounts of GHGs. The climate models include assumptions about tropospheric warming and stratospheric cooling that are not supported by the observations. This should be a big deal, and reminds me of John Christy’s APS presentation.

March 18, 2014 8:48 am

The Conversation by Adolf, or Joe, or Mao….a uni-directional conversation, like a teacher scolding the student who dared to question the quack’s authority….

Caleb
March 18, 2014 8:50 am

Their reasons for not allowing you equal time strike me as asinine. It seems to me what they are really suggesting is that if they cannot win the debate they will end the debate. It reminds me of a small child who, upon losing a game, bursts into tears and says, “I’m going to take my ball and go home if you won’t let me win!” (In this case the “ball” is the publication.)
I hope anyone who sees a tweet mentioning this publication tweets back, with a link to your reply.
I liked the way you turned your phrase, when you wrote, “Since Mr Lamberts names me, albeit in honourable company…” That made me smile, despite my outrage.

pochas
March 18, 2014 8:52 am

Ed Moran says:
March 18, 2014 at 8:31 am
“Do I detect preparations for a libel case?”
No, Moncton will not diminish himself.

March 18, 2014 8:56 am

The conversation does not appear to be concerned with facts or reality. Just the lies they are invested in.

pochas
March 18, 2014 8:56 am

Steven Mosher says:
March 18, 2014 at 8:46 am
“RSS doesnt measure global warming. It measures the brightness in the atmosphere,”
Neither do thermometers. They measure the position of a mercury meniscus in a sealed glass tube.

March 18, 2014 9:04 am

It is not who votes, or how many vote or where they vote.
It is who counts the votes that counts.
The msm lies the vote count for these liars.
97%
Kim Jong Ill
Putin’s new improved pre-marked ballots.
ACLU, MSM, EARTH FIRST, GREENPEACE, DEMOCRAT PARTY, PHD’S OF GREED, Teacher Unions, GENERAL ELECTRIC WITH ITS HAND IN THE TILL, ect.
Facts have second place so far.

March 18, 2014 9:10 am

Reblogged this on Power To The People and commented:
The new party line of Greens is when reality does not agree with Climate Change theory just disregard reality. Disregarding reality allows Greens to pursue their sinister goal of transforming the world back to the pre-industrial dark ages when life was short and brutal and the 1% Green elite lorded it over all those uppity peasants seeking a better life. http://www.martindurkin.com/blogs/nazi-greens-inconvenient-history

Neo
March 18, 2014 9:10 am

Klaatu: You have faith, Professor Barnhardt?
Barnhardt: It isn’t faith that makes good science, Mr. Klaatu, it’s curiosity. Sit down, please. There are several thousand questions I’d like to ask you.

March 18, 2014 9:13 am

Why is it called the “Conversation”? As for “Academic rigour, Journalistic flair” surely if all you’re doing is shouting down and insulting others without recourse to factual evidence, this means the complete opposite.
Maybe an experiment in irony?

minarchist
March 18, 2014 9:14 am

Very Orwellian. Science enlisted into service of the progressive state. The “conversation” means there isn’t one.

March 18, 2014 9:14 am

This has always been about control. To control the resources of the world one must control the body politic. Control the message and you control the outcome. Control the Education and Information flow and you control everything that is done. They are few and fear they are being swamped by large outside organization and funding. This must be the case as they are organized and funded and are losing the argument. Winning is the only way for them to SAVE the World from this virulent disease of humankind. Any method is justified to SAVE the World. Any rational discussion of the facts is not permitted as they will lose and they must win to SAVE the World. This is a world wide Religious Cult and their dogma is the only way to SAVE the World.
The only way to SAVE HUMANITY is through the INTERNET.
“The New Age begins with a Net that Covers the World.”
Welcome to the New Age. pg

March 18, 2014 9:15 am

On the other hand, Hadcrut3 is close behind RSS at 16 years and 6 months with a slope of 0 from August 1997 to January 2014.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1997.55/plot/hadcrut3gl/from:1997.55/trend

Bruce Cobb
March 18, 2014 9:24 am

Oops, I see Mr. Monckton coming, strap in hand, ready to take Mosher to the whipping shed. (breaks out popcorn).

Tim Obrien
March 18, 2014 9:26 am

Wow great summary of the whole debate. This needs to be spread.

tom s
March 18, 2014 9:32 am

Steven Mosher says:
March 18, 2014 at 8:46 am
And we’re talking 1/100ths or 1/10ths of a degree change over decades. WHO CARES?!! This is such a silly silly argument.

tom s
March 18, 2014 9:33 am

Steven Mosher says:
March 18, 2014 at 8:46 am
Are temperatures supposed to be flat….forever?
What is the desired mean temp of planet earth and why, how will humans maintain or affect it?
Silly human race.

March 18, 2014 9:33 am

Sorry but the global warming fraud is a brainchild of Rockefeller and Cohorts – not really leftists but mere financial oligarchs and big oil – and yes the queen of england and her husband is knee deep into this green malthusian nonsense.climate change, peak oil and peak populaton is the core of wallstreet and the city of london.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ls2j3aI_lRw

tom s
March 18, 2014 9:35 am

pochas says:
March 18, 2014 at 8:56 am
Steven Mosher says:
March 18, 2014 at 8:46 am
“RSS doesnt measure global warming. It measures the brightness in the atmosphere,”
Neither do thermometers. They measure the position of a mercury meniscus in a sealed glass tube.
TOUCHE’!!

raymond
March 18, 2014 9:38 am

Could someone help me with interpreting this? It looks like complete gibberish to me.
“The equation by which models represent mutual amplification of the feedbacks they take as net-positive comes from electronic circuitry, where at a loop gain of unity the voltage transitions instantly from the positive to the negative rail.
However, this singularity has no physical equivalent in the climate. Accordingly, a damping term is required, to allow not only for the fact that positive feedbacks such as the water-vapour feedback cannot, as voltage can, suddenly reverse their effect when the loop gain exceeds 1”
“For the past 420,000 years, absolute mean global surface temperature has varied by little more than 1% from the long-run average. It is very difficult to warm the world.”
What is the difference between a km of ice if the change in temperature is only 1 percent Kelvin?

March 18, 2014 9:40 am

So many lies , lakes of lies behind the msm built dam.
Not enough fingers to fill the pooly built dams many holes.
Consider the number of busy fingers gone from the support of Michael Mann and Al Gores defence off to deal with the huge over toping of the lie dam caused by the flood of lies of the Afordable Care Act. Rushing fingers every where, legions of msm front line liars lying full bray, yet the truth is now known more and more each day. Not enough new fingers being trained in the lie skill to fill the gap.
Push the truth now, no let up, each hour, every day, every way.

James C
March 18, 2014 10:08 am

“Ich bin ein Denier!”
I deny that Anthropomorphic Global Warming has any significant impact on climate.
I deny that Global Climate Change has a net negative impact on life on Earth.
I deny that Carbon Dioxide is a pollutant.
I deny that alternative energy sources have Socialist solutions.
I deny that any Science is Settled.
I deny that those funded by Politicians seek Scientific truth.

Slartibartfast
March 18, 2014 10:19 am

In the interest of separating facts from opinions, I suggest that no opinionation will be permitted in climate science in the future.
I expect that suggestion would be poorly received, in some circles.

Martin 457
March 18, 2014 10:29 am

I get it now. Not a conversation, a conversion. 🙂

March 18, 2014 10:57 am

O how the true-believers wriggle when confronted with a Pause in global temperatures that has now endured for just about half of the entire satellite era.
Mr Mosher, shutting his eyes tight to the ineluctably growing discrepancy between flatlining global temperatures and the fancifully exaggerated predictions of the failed climate models, attempts – rather feebly, one feels – to take me to task for having cited the RSS satellite monthly temperature dataset and for having said: “There has been no global warming for up to 17 years 6 months”.
He says that my surely blameless statement, visibly and colorfully evidenced by the graph that accompanied it, is “wrong”. Well, he is entitled to his opinion, but here at WUWT we do facts.
For instance, I might have used the HadCRUt4 dataset, which shows no global warming distinguishable from the combination of the published measurement, coverage, and bias uncertainties not for a mere 17 years 6 months but for 18 full years.
Or I might have pointed out that, again on the RSS dataset, statistically-significant warming has been absent not just for 210 months but for more than 24 years.
Or I might have shown that on the Central England Temperature Record, an excellent proxy for global temperature change (over the past 120 years, two full cycles of the ocean oscillations, it shows warming within 0.01 Cº of the mean of the three global terrestrial datasets) there has been no global warming for 25 full calendar years.
Or I might have pointed out that the IPCC’s current mid-range estimate is for warming at 0.17 Cº/decade, which is half of the IPCC’s 1990 mid-range estimate, but that since the AR5 reference date of January 2005 the predicted warming has been – er – entirely and embarrassingly absent.
Or I might have said that Mr Mosher’s ideological penpal John Kook of “Skeptical” “Science” says 2 billion Hiroshima bombs’-worth of heat has been accumulating in the climate system since the late 1990s, but not a flicker of global warming has resulted. That’s a whole lotta bombs. Where has all that missing heat gone, then? Why aren’t the oceans boiling and the skies falling? Eh? I only ask because I want to know.
Mr Mosher protests that RSS measures brightness, not temperature. Well, this is not the place for me to lecture him on the relationship what is (surely revealingly) known as “brightness temperature” and “temperature” simpliciter.
Or he may perhaps prefer to consult his ideological bedfellow “Phil” Jones at the “University” of East Anglia, who will explain to him just how closely the two satellite datasets track the HadCRUT datasets, and will even show him a nice picture of the near-coincident trend-lines.
Next, Mr Mosher wails that I have used a least-squares linear-regression trend. He should contact his political soulmate “Phil” Jones on this too. “Phil”, writing to the unspeakable paid propagandist “Bob” Ward on 20 December 2007, says: “This is a linear trend – least squares. This is how statisticians work out trends.”
Now, the least-squares method advocated by our “Phil” is what IPeCaC uses in its Assessment Reports. So if Mr Mosher would prefer everyone to use some other method, then let him write a reviewed paper on the subject. And let him at least tell us right away which method he would prefer, and why. For no method, however much he bends the graph, will show all that much in the way of global warming over the past couple of decades.
Get used to it, Mosh, baby. Those of us who actually dug inside the models and sweated the numbers before being tempted to climb on the hard-Left political bandwagon tricked out as “science” did not get things too far wrong.
There was no reason to expect all that much warming in response to our converting 1/2500 of the air this century from oxygen to plant food. There is no reason. There will be no reason. So, if you want my untutored guess (and if you don’t you’re getting it anyway), the graphs of global temperature change – or of the lack thereof – will continue to demonstrate that fact.
Global warming? What global warming?