Popcorn futures continue to explode
Mark Steyn writes:
Today I filed with the DC Superior Court an Amended Answer and Counterclaims to Mann’s Amended Complaint.
The new bit is the third counterclaim way down on page 21. We’re moving toward trial, and if you want to support my pushback against Mann I hope you’ll consider buying a SteynOnline gift certificate or one of our new Clash of Sticks products.
More here: http://www.steynonline.com/6165/a-change-of-climate
page 21/22:
Looks to me like Steyn is suing Mann for $30 million now.
In other news, popcorn futures have exploded beyond what anyone thought possible, creating a new hockey stick shape that portends a precarious future for Dr. Mann:
If I were Steyn, I’d start selling popcorn too.
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Love it.
Think I’ll zip over to Mark’s site and buy another book….
State Pen, not Penn State.
Mwaahaahaaa
I know you’re meant to have separation of powers, but do you really think Steyn will be allowed to win?
Steyn is going to put little Piltdown Mann out of business…….we need a trust fund to sue and bankrupt Java Man Philly Jones et al.
Mann must be having kittens right about now.
😉
After the Virginia case I doubt this will lead to full data disclosure of Mann, therefore little will be won against junk science advocates. The magic of “science” reporting is the media element of ignoring all the “may”, “suggested”, “most likely” contained and expounding on the exaggerated propositions that are made for political advocacy reasons. You can’t sue Mann because the press shares the same agenda with him and minimize all reasonable interpretations of his presented product.
I would be surprised if either side profited in this case longer-term and tactically in the short-run Mann and alarmists have been boosted. Free speech counter damages? A very small risk to Mann who plays the put-upon victim who is offended. Over years it will go away with minimal cost to Mann. If he gets nailed “they” will deify him. He’s a climate war hero in his own mind and that of the hate driven climate change community.
We are talking about obscure, abstract near worthless “science” in the case of Mann and the fantastical agenda that ever claimed it was significant. That isn’t a statement about his actual science work but the agenda that drives the AGW narrative. As is often the case this shouldn’t be treated much differently then a paper on clinical psychology or paranormal “science”. It’s about opinion and treatment of data to fudge a graph. Do you think the SKS site is going to be brought down because of dubious and dishonest statistics? Regardless these suits are a distraction not a solution. Of course you counter sue but listing claims hardly makes for pop corn, these two parties hardly know one another.
Looking at the Popcorn futures, is it just me or do we see a start of a hockey stick? 😉
That Mann was a political activist from the start, from his college days at Berkeley. Now he is seen hobnobbing constantly with leftist politicians like Ed Markey and Nancy Pelosi. There’s no way that this Mann can be seen as an objective scientist, instead from day 1 he has shared the objective, or as he has said “the cause,” of the leftists loons, a cause stated by Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren who said, not in reference to climate change but just as a laudable goal in itself, that we must “de-develop the United States… [and] design a stable, low-consumption economy.” Now, like a true Alinsky radical, the litigious Mann is trying to bully his way to victory. Kudos to Steyn in trying to stop the mendacious hockey stick fabricator.
Scott Mandia of the so-called ‘Climate Science Legal Defense Fund’ now has a potentially lucrative permanent job for life trying to keep up with funding of Mann’s legal buffoonism.
Come on Scott, man up, please send Steyn a thank you note.
John
@cwon14: you forget that it was Mann who sued first then didn’t come up with the evidence. The apparent aim was to force corporate funded Steyn to capitulate out of relative poverty. it has rebounded.
The same goes for Tim Ball.
what are popcorn futures at now?? That chart reads July 11
so if i were to say its my opinion that mark steyn is a child molesting paedophile then he wouldn’t sue me because he would be suppressing my freedom of speech and public expression? #justasking
REPLY: Ah but Steyn didn’t say that, check your facts. The statement that resulted in the lawsuit was: “the Jerry Sandusky of climate science”. One is an accusation, the other is satire. – Anthony
Sorry “non-corporate funded Steyn”
I wonder with all the current hoopla in the US Senate, the State department’s rhetoric regarding “our brave” Diplomatic men and women all over the world standing on guard against the greatest [threat] to mankind, the largest weapon of mass destruction ever!!! ie Climate Change if they realize finally that they are wrong and in their minds the best [defense] is to attack? And that means attack at all costs? I hope Steyn realises this and I agree with his doubling down but are Mann’s supporters and backers are going to back him up? With all I see going on I fear they are.
sorry about the poor grammar.
$30Million – This is GREAT!
We have this AND it is an election year where the House is held and Senate may be overtaken! I am beginning to look forward to the remainder of 2014!!!!!
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Jo Swansom,
This is an open blog, you can address your question personally and directly to Steyn. He might answer you.
However, are you implying Steyn called Mann that? Wrong implication.
John
Piltdown carves a hockey stick, gets the shaft straight
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-FCxZqIJb7Uo/T8QKNCaISJI/AAAAAAAALTs/kfX-Lb7g0uM/s1600/Piltdown+man%3F.jpeg
“…. and tactically in the short-run Mann and alarmists have been boosted. “
Utter nonsense. Mann is likely terrified right about now. His legal expenses are covered, but it seems to me he’s personaaly on the hook for damages. Mann looks increasingly like the loony, paranoid, Captain Queeg figure that he is, and I’m certain there’s a great deal of behind the scenes alarmist teeth gnashing over this situation….
That said, I do not believe this case will proceed to the end. Mann will be looking for a way out. Bullies are always cowards.
IN Texas,
However, if the statements are of general nature and do not specifically relate to the party’s profession or occupation, the injured party will have to put on evidence of actual damages incurred as the result of such statements.
According to Hancock, unless being truthful is a specific trait of a profession or a business, being called or labeled a “liar” is not enough to allow a presumption of actual damages.
“so if i were to say its my opinion that mark steyn is a child molesting paedophile”
First of all you would be redundant. Secondly, Steyn did not call Mann that name. So then why did you pose this question? Just asking.
Oh god, now it’s a popcorn hockey stick.
This suit is going nowhere –
Rarely, if ever, do litigants get punished for filing frivolous lawsuits.
Steyn will have to demonstrate that Mann’s purpose for filing his defamation lawsuit was for harrassment, to suppress Steyns free speech rights, etc. Given that Mann has a plausible claim to the defamation, it becomes almost an impossible burden to overcome. Probably a much bigger hurdle to overcome than Mann having to prove malice or reckless disregard for the truth. Given that there is such a significant amount of quality information available, proving reckless disregard for the truth is also a very near impossible.
The two advantages of filing the suit are
1) it jacks up Mann’s legal fees, so it makes the attorney’s happy and
2) It gives the judge a much better perspective on the purpose of Mann’s lawsuit. (whether it is to Steyn’s benefit or if it simply ticks the judge off – we will have to wait and see)