Starting at the same price, there’s a 10 to 1 gap in investment performance
By Christopher Monckton of Brenchley
… Don’t put your pension into Greens. “Greens” are what the City boys in red suspenders with East End accents you could cut with a machete and Porsches you could scratch with a convenient latch-key call renewable-energy stocks. See the chart:
As Bjørn Lomborg points out in a recent devastating graph, if you had been scared enough by the hockey-stick fable in the IPCC’s 2001 Third Assessment Report to invest $100 in Greens in 2002, you would now be the proud owner of $28, or quite a bit less than that after inflation.
But if you had followed Monckton’s Rule of Merry and Profitable Investment – listen very carefully to what the Government tells you, do the exact opposite, wait a decade or so, then collect in spades – you would have invested your $100 in oil and gas stocks. And you would now have a billfold crammed with $238, or 1000% more than the hapless investor in Greens.
These are remarkable figures. Oil and gas corporations have had to face ever higher taxes and ever tighter regulations in the name of Saving The Planet. Greens have been subsidized to levels so absurd they’re beyond Communist. Even with the millstone of taxation, regulation and ministerial hate-speech, oil and gas stocks have done well. Even with frequent epinephrine overdoses of taxpayer subsidy and paeans of official praise, Greens – as the red-suspenders brigade would put it – are down the toilet.
That is a remarkable contrast. Not the least reason for it is that all forms of so-called “renewable” energy are monstrously, irremediably inefficient. Currently, my favorite example is the sappy UK Government’s subsidies to new electric autos.
Typical gasoline-powered auto engines are approximately 27% efficient. Typical fossil-fueled generating stations are 50% efficient, transmission to end user is 67% efficient, battery charging is 90% efficient and the auto’s electric motor is 90% efficient, so that the fuel efficiency of an electric auto is – er – also 27%. However, the electric auto requires 30% more power per mile traveled to move the mass of its batteries.
CO2 emissions from domestic transport account for 24% of UK CO2 emissions, and cars, vans, and taxis represent 90% of road transport. Assuming 80% of fuel use is by these autos, they account for 19.2% of UK CO2 emissions. Conversion to electric power, 61% of which is generated by fossil fuels in the UK, would remit 39% of 19.2%, or 7.5%, of UK CO2 emissions.
However, the battery-weight penalty would be 30% of 19.2% of 61%, or 3.5%, of UK CO2 emissions. So the net saving from converting all UK cars, vans, and taxis to electricity would be just 4% of UK CO2 emissions, which are 1.72% of global CO2 emissions. Thus converting all UK autos to electricity would abate 0.07% of global CO2 emissions.
But at what cost?
The cost to the UK taxpayer of subsidizing the 30,000 electric cars, vans, and taxis bought in 2012 was a flat-rate subsidy of $8333 (£5000) for each vehicle and a further subsidy of about $350 (£210) in vehicle excise tax remitted, a total of $260.5 million. On that basis, the cost of subsidizing all 2,250,000 new autos sold each year would be $19.54 bn. Though the longevity of electric autos is 50% greater than that of internal-combustion autos, batteries must be completely replaced every few years at great cost, canceling the longevity advantage.
The considerable cost of using renewable energy to bring down the UK’s fossil-fueled generation fraction from the global mean 67% to 61% is not taken into account, though, strictly speaking, an appropriate share of the very large subsidy cost of renewable electricity generation should be assigned to electric vehicles.
By contrast, what is the cost of doing nothing?
The Stern Report on the economics of climate change says 3 Cº global warming this century would cost 0-3% of global GDP. We’re not going to get 3 Cº warming, or anything like it, so make that, say, 1% of GDP.
But the cost of making global warming go away by methods whose unit cost per Celsius degree of global warming abated is equivalent to that of the UK Government’s mad subsidy for electric autos works out at 74% of global GDP. So it is 74 times more expensive to act today than to adapt the day after tomorrow. Oops!
In fact, the cost-benefit ratio may be even worse than this. Now that both RSS and UAH have reported their satellite-derived monthly temperature anomalies for February 2014, the monthly Global Warming Prediction Index can be determined, based on the simple mean of the two datasets since January 2005.
The IPCC’s Fifth Assessment Report last year backdated the models’ projections to 2005, and reduced the central estimate of the next 30 years’ global warming by almost half from the equivalent of 2.3 Cº per century in the pre-final draft to the equivalent of 1.3 Cº per century in the final draft.
Even this much-reduced projection continues inexorably to diverge from the unexciting reality that global temperature has stabilized.
The brainier and more honest advocates of the official story-line know that events have rendered their demands for near-zero CO2 emissions no longer tenable.
Yet they continue to make their strident demands that the West should, in effect, shut itself down. They do so for the following interesting reason. They know that the high-sensitivity theory they said they were more sure about than anything else is nonsense. They know the world will warm by perhaps 1 Cº this century as a result of our activities, and that is all, and that is not a problem.
They also know that within not more than seven years the mean of all five global-temperature datasets may well show no global warming – at all – for 20 years. They know that if CO2 concentration continues to rise at anything like its present rate it will become obvious to all that they were spectacularly, egregiously, humiliatingly in error.
They have concluded, unsurprisingly but furtively, that their only way out is to insist that the science is even more settled than ever and that CO2 emissions must be cut even faster than before.
Then, when global temperature fails to rise as they now know it will fail to rise, they can say that the Pause has happened because CO2 emissions have been stabilized by the policies they so profitably demanded, rather than because the Pause would have happened anyway.
Indeed, one or two of the more flagrantly dishonest global warming crooks are already beginning to claim that the Pause is their doing. One has only to look at the ever-rising gray CO2 curve on the graph to see there is no truth in that.
However, the day of judgment is at hand. A fraud case is being quietly, painstakingly assembled, spanning three continents. When the last pieces of evidence have been carefully collected, half a dozen people will face trial for the serious, imprisonable offense of fraud by misrepresentation.
When that day comes, watch the rats who have over-promoted this profoundly damaging scare scurrying for cover in case they are next. Then, and only then, the scare will be over.
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daddylonglegs says:
March 6, 2014 at 11:56 pm
Chaori Solar would also be one to avoid:
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No worries, all they have to do is file Chapter 11. Oh, wait… 😉
Good comparisons between energy efficiency, and thus CO2 emissions, of electric v fossil fuel cars.
I did a simple calculation a few months ago from information published by UK government to look at the benefits of Heatpumps (air and ground source) – by a small margin installing a heat pump rather than a gas boiler , will Increase CO2 emissions due to the losses through electricity transmission.
ralfellis says March 6, 2014 at 10:57 pm
Where indeed.
The bigger question might be “when will Cameron be put to the sword?” Casting the next election date in stone was like putting wax on a death warrant, awaiting only the seal. A day is eternity in politics and there are 426 to go before 7th May 2015. Long knife sharpening has barely begun and is currently focused on gaffing EU farmed Salmon anyway. You kippers of a sort may follow for tea when the eventual battlefield smoke clears.
http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_02_07/Native-Americans-to-stop-Keystone-pipeline-1298/
maybe they will stop cameron too
Well, since we are talking about the life time of the internal combustion engine; I have a 1977 Porsche 924 (manufactured in 1976) that I rebuilt the engine myself, though took the block to a machine shop to bore new larger cylinders with one requiring a new sleeve. I then drove the car later that year during Christmas break from Canada to Mexico down the west coast of Washington state, Oregon and California. I still have the car and its still drivable, though it hasn’t been driven for over a decade.
I had an enjoyable 48 hour day once with the car when I was travelling back home to Vancouver (not the one just across the river from Portland) from Spokane and at the border my fuel pump stopped working. Maybe I shouldn’t have tested the maximum speed of the vehicle earlier that day. Anyways I walked through the night and into the early morning till I got to a mall and a phone, called my sister, got picked up by a friend of hers. Went to a auto parts store and got a new pump. Back to the border and installed it (electric, external) and got home then slept for 16 hours or so.
I also have a Honda Civic that had its engine destroyed when I replaced the starter motor and forgot to tighten the timing belt bolt. Live and learn. I forgot on my Porsche once as well, for reasons I wont go into, but the valves clear the pistons throughout the pistons stroke range, so no damage.
I have more car stories, but most of this century I have ridden my bike, or walked wherever I go. I probably have one of the lowest carbon footprints of any climate science researcher, and probably lower than 97% of all greenies. And I don’t even believe in AGW.
Garfy says: @ur momisugly March 6, 2014 at 10:09 pm
…long ago that systems have been put hath – efficient systems – to drastically reduce fuel consumption…
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Correct.
Long ago in the early 1980s my boy friend, a metallurgical engineer, worked on a project which added a device to a stock V-8 with a carburetor and got over 50 mpg in on the road tests in the city of Boston MA. We went out to dinner to celebrate the successful test.
The device never made it to market.
ralfellis says: @ur momisugly March 6, 2014 at 10:57 pm
Politically, economically, and socially, the UK (and much of Europe) are on the cusp of an energy crisis, with looming blackouts, and our governments play the fiddle while the city London goes dark. Nero fell on his sword. Will cameron do the same?
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No he will take his ill gotten gains, robbed from pensioners freezing to death, and escape to Costa Rica, the Philippines, or Croatia. Croatia offers great beauty, that appealing Mediterranean climate and tax breaks for retirees, but may be a wee bit too close to the people he scammed.
TheLastDemocrat says: @ur momisugly March 6, 2014 at 11:18 pm
What is limiting the life of internal combustion engine cars NOW is the futuristic insistence upon computer-controlled engine as a means for eeking out a tiny bit more mileage relative to a carburetor.
…This has an effect on lower-wage earners: they cannot reliably get an auto that can be brought up to spec without great expense…
In the ol’ days, plenty of things could be done to a car to keep it going down the road a few more miles in a relatively safe and relatively efficient manner….
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Yes we took our ‘Modern fuel injected ‘Ford Torus and dumped it at a very cheap price, with no warranty of any kind on someone. It crapped out a few days later, to the surprise of everyone involved.
We took the money and bought a 1987 pick-up with a Holley carburetor. I do not care about the mileage, I care that I can repair it for less that $1,000 a pop often at home, and that the truck is heavy enough and powerful enough to haul a trailer.
That Ford Taurus got worse miles than my 1976 Cutlass with a carburetored V-8 (and 5-spd trany) and lasted less than half the miles.
Since the US gets 50% of electricity from coal the following more accurately describes the lectric vehicle.
An electric vehicle will produce more carbon dioxide emissions and use more energy than its gasoline counterpart of the same size and weight. For example, let’s use our Hollywood activists impressing his friends with his overpriced electric vehicle powered by an electrical power plant burning coal on a Navajo Indian reservation in Arizona. For comparison purposes there are 115,000 Btu’s in a gallon of gasoline that will take a car of comparable size to the electric around 40 miles. Therefore a gasoline car will use 2875 Btu’s per mile. Meanwhile burning 115,000 btu’s of coal loses around 70% of its energy content in the conversion from coal to heat to steam to mechanical energy(generator) to electricity. (There’s a little problem called entropy where energy that does work creates losses in the form of lost heat, noise, friction, etc.) So of the original energy content we get 34,500 Btu’s of electricity. We’re not through yet because we lose another 5% warming bird’s feet in the power line going 1500 miles to Los Angeles. Then we convert the electrical energy to chemical energy (charging a battery) another 40% to 60% loss. Then we convert back to electricity to drive the wheel train another 10% minimum until we finally show up at the Oscars. So from the original 115,000 Btu’s of coal burned we probably get to utilize less than 15,000 Btu’s to actually move the vehicle. Assuming that the electric car also gets 40 miles to 115,000 btu’s we would have to burn about 900,000 Btu’s of coal to generate enough electricity to go the same distance as 1 gallon of gasoline. In short, the only accomplishment of the electric car is to move its emissions to Arizona rather than down town Los Angeles make a Hollywood moron feel good and increase fossil fuel demand.
Another Geologist’s Take says:
March 6, 2014 at 3:22 pm
AGT, I went through the document you linked to. Incredible. There is not a single example of a direct subsidy to an oil company. Some third world countries sell gasoline at a discounted rate to people but that is government subsidizing oil, not oil companies.
The IMF introduces the concept of “corrective taxes” for such things as CO2 emissions ($25/ton). These are a major part of their subsidy estimates. In fairness to the IMF they appear to lay these subsidies at the foot of government while you place them at the door of the oil companies.
And then they write this:
I’m surprised a geologist would associate an oil industry subsidy with traffic accidents and travel delays.
Gail Combs says, March 7, 2014 at 4:31 am
It’s not just electronics. Dual mass flywheels on small injected turbo diesels are another mid-life crisis component for most.
Rhys Jaggar says:
March 6, 2014 at 10:17 am
I guess it depends on whether you consider the billions spent bombing Iraq to get US oil corporations a new risk-free dividend stream for 30 years a subsidy or not.
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psst: You can get oil from Canada without any bombs. You only need to build a pipeline. Guess which option the US will choose?
battery charging is 90% efficient
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perhaps in perfect conditions with brand new batteries, not including losses for converting 120 VAC to high voltage DC.
ever tried to use your cell phone in cold weather? unless you leave your cell phone next to your body so it stays warm, your battery will quickly show low charge. electric cars use cell phone technology batteries, but are damned inconvenient to keep next to your body.
The situation changes for a car owner if the car is done right. Driving a Tesla is a “come to Jesus” experience. And as I write, a third cross-continent (and this time, return) trip is being undertaken using only the free-for-life highway power outlets called SuperChargers, by the smaller battery car (60kWh). The car is on the return leg, in the dead of winter (at the moment, there is only one route open, that goes through the northern states like SD.)
Even this lower powered (vs the 85kWh model) car gets twice the range of ANY electric competitor. It gets the best ratings ever by MT, CR, and other top-tier auto reviewers. As for the battery, it will take about 10-15 years to decline to 70% capacity, the nominal “end of life”, at which point it will have more decades of use and value as part of a storage/backup facility for a residence, business, utility or in a SuperCharging station. And then it can be 100% recycled for its components.
As for efficiency “well to wheel” calculations, many owners are inspired to invest in solar home systems with about a 6 yr “payback”, and even before that point are seeing miniscule or even negative cost impacts of charging daily.
In every local or national market entered, Tesla is receiving orders in excess of its ability to deliver. The next in line, China, is ramping at the fastest rate ever.
Advertising is zero. Musk’s take on branding: “Make great product that people want to buy.” He has ordered service centers (sole source of net profit for gas car makers) to operate at break-even. Owners are gob-smacked when they experience the difference in approach, attitude, and priorities that makes.
In about 3 yrs, the mid-market version (the 200mi $35K Model E) will hit the streets, and will sell an order of magnitude more.
Test-drive one, if you are prepared to risk becoming a Tesla-obsessive.
At a 36% marginal tax rate, for every dollar I earn, I hand Uncle Sam $0.36. How many dollars do I need to earn in order to owe $7,500? (0.36)X = 7500.or X = 7500/(0.36). My comparison may not have been altogther a good one. It would have been more proper to say, it’s as if the government pretended you made $20,833 less than you actually did when you were calculating your taxes. Or, you would need that much in deductions to equal that tax credit at that marginal rate.
D.J. Hawkins says:>>>
Got it. We were both saying the same thing but from different points of view.
TheLastDemocrat says:
March 6, 2014 at 11:18 pm
I remember my old 1984 Buick Riviera with a quadrajet carburetor was u/s for a week because of a computer chip malfunction.
By the way, I have the Chilton’s Auto Repair Manual 1980-1997 at hand.
Need specifications or finding error codes via A/C controls?
The Pius is actually pretty good as a city taxi. Excellent range, and the cars do 150,000km / 100,000mi pa. The long range means less down time filling up too. And the battery amortises over 700T km.
What use is this to people who aren’t taxi driver??
Dispatching electric power. The note above about the US grid losing 7% on transmission is correct, but incomplete. Additional losses are due to TLR’s, or when backup power is used to maintain voltage in the system so it does not crash when the load goes up. Lord Monckton’s 67% estimate is very close to the truth (in the US) when this is factored in and probably spot on in the UK. All electricity grids have to maintain voltage under all conditions or they fail, this is the main reason solar and wind will never be primary sources of grid power. They can only supplement coal, natural gas or nuclear. This fact is often ignored by the media. Also, consider that TLR’s (think congestion on the grid) are more frequent and more severe the more solar and wind are used. So solar and wind decrease efficiency.
Fascinating rundown on the Tesla Brian H, must get myself one, how long do you think it would take to drive from Melbourne to Alice Springs? (2300 km or 1430 miles)
Good one!
Christopher,
Thanks for the info about the approaching “day of judgment.” When you’re at liberty to divulge more details, I’m all ears!
“Skeptik says:
March 8, 2014 at 11:04 am”
The Tesla, albeit a good machine, is not the machine you, or I, would want to buy (IMO). You would want the Fisker Karma. It is a petrol-electric powered car. This is the best, with todays technology, possible combination for fuel/energy efficiency for electric motor power, driven by batteries and then with backup fossile fuled power geneation. The petrol engine only generates power to recharge the bateries and drive the electric motors. This technology was invented in the early 20th century (Circa 1903).
http://www.elwatan.com/depeches/japon-les-antinucleaire-manifestent-pour-les-3-ans-de-fukushima-09-03-2014-248514_167.php
> THAT WAS THREE YEARS AGO –