Met Office Science Chief Attacked For Climate Claim
Britain’s winters are getting colder because of melting Arctic ice, the Government’s forecaster said yesterday. Met Office chief scientist Julia Slingo said climate change was “loading the dice” towards freezing, drier weather. –Ben Jackson, The Sun, 11 April 2013
Bungling weather bosses predicted a drier than usual winter, it has emerged. The Met Office’s staggeringly inaccurate forecast was made at the end of November last year – just a month before the record-breaking deluge began. –Tom Newton Dunn, The Sun, 11 February 2014
The chief scientist of the Met Office has been criticised for claiming that “all the evidence” indicated climate change had played a role in the recent storms and flooding. Some scientists are said to be concerned that the remark has been interpreted as drawing a strong connection between climate change and the exceptional winter weather when the evidence is incomplete. Her speech came after the Prime Minister said he “very much suspected” that there was a link. “What Dame Julia says goes, at least by implication, beyond what most climate scientists are willing to say,” one academic said. “I find it very hard to look inside her mind as to what made her think that was a sensible thing to say.” –Oliver Moody, The Times, 18 February 2014
Instead of defending Julia Slingo’s statement on the floods the Met Office have defended the original report. This is very interesting: it seems that the Met Office is unable to come up with any defence of its chief scientist’s public statements. Yesterday I suggested that Slingo’s statement had misled the public. This clarification doesn’t seemed to have changed anything at all. It looks bad. Very bad. –Andrew Montford, Bishop Hill, 17 February 2014
A study by the Met Office and Centre for Ecology and Hydrology concluded that “it is not possible, yet, to give a definitive answer on whether climate change has been a contributor or not.” At the launch of the report, the Met Office chief scientist, Dame Julia Slingo, seemed to go a bit beyond what appeared in print. She said: “All the evidence suggests there is a link to climate change.” Not some of the evidence, but all of it. The Met Office scrambled to produce a statement to assert that there was no disagreement. It also confirmed the “uncertainty” about the storm track in the North Atlantic but did not address whether the chief scientist had gone beyond the conclusions of their own report. Does this leave us any wiser? No. In my experience scientists always disagree – that’s how research advances. –David Shukman¸BBC News, 18 February 2014
In the row over whether climate change is causing the current floods and storms, the sceptics are the ones who are sticking to the consensus, as set out by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) — you know, the body that the alarm-mongers are always telling us to obey. And it is the sceptics who have been arguing for years for resilience and adaptation, rather than decarbonisation. While the green lobby has prioritised decarbonisation, sceptics have persistently advocated government spending on adaptation, so as to grab the benefits of climate change but avoid the harm, and be ready for cooling as well if the sun goes into a funk. –Matt Ridley, The Times, 17 February 2014
Most of the climate sceptics operate on self-employed shoestrings and cost you nothing: Andrew Montford, David Holland, Nic Lewis, Doug Keenan, Paul Homewood, Fay Kelly-Tuncay. There is only one professional sceptic in the entire country — Benny Peiser — and he is not paid by the taxpayer. –Matt Ridley, The Times, 17 February 2014
Extreme weather events being taken as signs for the coming end unless sinful ways are repented is as old as civilization. Today’s climate panic is merely just the latest relapse to a very old mental disorder that has afflicted mankind for thousands of years. The only antidote is reason and knowledge. –Pierre Gosselin, No Tricks Zone, 17 February 2014
This Newsbytes is from The GWPF and Dr. Benny Peiser
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
Yeah, well.
When all your clothes are gone even a short straw will look like it will cover something.
“Climate chance is going to make dry weather . . . flooding .. . . sunny. . . . rainy . . . all kinda weather wich is abnormal or normal of whatever weather we know it for sure with at least 95% confidence.”
What is purpose of Metoffice or meteorologians anyhow? If they can’t predict weather at all, it’s waste of money.
It’s a slip of the tongue that shows the mental built-in bias that taints their view of the world. Every thing we do is bad and it’s all our fault and we must atone.
How does that work? It seems that politicians and their minions can spout off about climate change being the cause of everything, with complete impunity. Even if it runs completely at odds with what even their own scientists seem to be saying. I don’t get it. They are a herd of loose cannons, the whole lot of them.
All the politicians see a link and say we have to get used to wetter winters. How much have they cash have they set aside to evacuate the low-lying areas which is surely the only long term answer? None.
Julia Slingo has joined the long list of undeserving award recipients. I think we can use the awards as an index of the shoddiest political hack science practitioners. The Nobel Prize has been possibly irredeemably degraded by its presentation to the likes of Al Gore (hack extraordinaire for a phoney CAGW film he produced and also won an Academy Award for), IPCC for egregious alarmist, activist, anti-human, civilization destroying tracts, Obama (as a bribe in advance so he would feel obligated to misrepresent his country at COP15 in Copenhagen- small redemption by not doing so at that time), Royal Society awards to debunked “6 degrees Mark Lynas”, and scientific society awards to M. Mann for debunked hockey stick, P. Gleick for theft of information, and most recently Turney of the Ship of Fools for his complete arsenine search for global warmiing in Antarctica and, of course, Dame Julia gets decorated by Buckingham Palace. WUWT with these awards already?
Lets hope this doesn’t get to much like “The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street”.
Climate science is splitting along two lines. Those who accept the models have failed and are going back to the drawing board and those who grudgingly accept the models have failed and are clutching at any straw on a passing wind.
Pierre Gosselin : “Extreme weather events being taken as signs for the coming end unless sinful ways are repented is as old as civilization. Today’s climate panic is merely just the latest relapse to a very old mental disorder that has afflicted mankind for thousands of years. The only antidote is reason and knowledge.”
My parallel is religious fundaentalism, but Pierre’s words will do just fine
Loaded dice toward freezing? That’s NOT what Vicky Pope (head of the climate predictions program at the Hadley Centre) said in 2003:
+0.3 degrees increase in 10 years. Half the years after 2009 hotter than 1998. “Strong statements” she says. She’s got the loss of the Amazon rainforest and the path to Greenland melting in this excerpt. Hardly colder.
I’m afraid Slingo et al are proof that the game is won.
We lost.
When Dame Julia called together a conference to discuss the unusual climate I ran some control charts just to see how unusual they were, not a lot it seems.
http://oldgifford.wordpress.com/2013/07/03/uk-climate-and-control-chartsposted-on-july-3-2013from/
LOL.
Looks like the merry boffins at le Met Office are SOL. ;-D
Mardler,
They have won nothing. They are deceiving themselves, and getting rich with rent seeking and moral hazard — so far.
But the hypesters of climate are deceiving fewer people, have lost countries and are hemorrhaging credibility at an unsustainable rate.
I really hate that they effectively switched the language from Global Warming to Climate Change. Unless you’re a warmist, you should refer to it as Global Warming. Keep it alive because it looks a lot more ridiculous to say “Global Warming is causing colder drier winters” than “Climate change is causing colder drier winters”.
The CO2 theory is, and always will be, to warm the planet. Unless Arrhenius was wrong and CO2 is a refrigerant.
Mardler says:
“We lost.”
May I refer you to the half British, half American Winston Churchill?
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”
And:
“Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.”
And of course:
“Never give in–never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”
hunter says:
February 18, 2014 at 10:41 am
Mardler,
They have won nothing. They are deceiving themselves, and getting with with rent seeking and moral hazard- so far.
But the hypesters of cliamte are deceiving fewer people, have lost countries and are hemorraging credibility at an unsustainable rate.
———————–
I hope you are right and Mardler is wrong, but I fear Mardler is right 🙁
dbstealey says:
February 18, 2014 at 10:45 am
Mardler says:
“We lost.”
May I refer you to the half British, half American Winston Churchill?
“Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.”
And:
“Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.”
And of course:
“Never give in–never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”
————————-
Good advice! Makes me feel better!
who would have thought there were so many Chicken Little’s. They freak they freak …Cant they take a little time have a drink and wonder how they might make their place on this planet a little safer for them in their own homes/neighbor hood town or what ever island they live on to be safe ?
They should at least recognize that at the very best of what we know we don’t know very much …
Here’s the interview last year on ITV, when she says
climate change was loading the dice towards freezing, drier weather.”
http://www.itv.com/news/2013-04-10/met-office-investigating-arctic-link-in-record-low-temperatures/
Ah so the Climate Chief Change Scientist has in fact been the cause of much ‘chilling’ in the UK.
DavidL,
As Henry Ford said:
“Whether you think you can, or you think you can’t — you’re right.”
I think we can turn the tide. We see it happening already. The entire ‘runaway global warming’ scare is being ridiculed everywhere. Alarmists are on the ropes. Just because they give each other awards doesn’t mean the public is still blindly following them.
Their support is crumbling, due to facts and observations. Those are hard things to argue against.
CAGW is an intelligence test.
The fools and bandits , who infest our bureaucracies have failed this test.
Every generation, some fad come along that exposes these mediocrity’s for what they are.
Parasites sucking the life out of society.
Here to help… sure!
Time for Slingo to GO!
She has been consistently pumping the AWG scamongering and flying in the face of the sceintific evidence. “Chief Scientist” my foot. Cheif propagandist, more like.
There are a lot people at the Met. Office trying to do a proper job and I don’t think they find this sort of stupidity that helpful.
IFAIK the Met Office is still the only major national climate authority that has wound back predictions for next few years. (One cautious step in the right direction).
I don’t see much evidence of the “chief scientist” doing any science. It just seems like a fancy name for the press officer down there.
Time for Slingo to GO!
Here’s another Slingo predication from The Guardian (Wednesday 14 March 2012) 🙂
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/mar/14/met-office-arctic-sea-ice-loss-winter