Guardian's catastrophism leads circulation to plummet ?

Apparently, crazy non-factual opinion just doesn’t sell all that well. Kind of reminds me of the doomed “Air America” radio network.

Climate resistance writes:

There are of course a number of reasons for the decline of ‘dead tree media’, one of which is the rise of Internet-based media. However, the internet had been around for a decade before the series above begins, during which time sales were stable, or possibly even showed an improvement.

This one graph tells the story:

independentAndGuardianCirculation[1]

However, I prefer a different explanation. All newspapers have lost sales. But the Independent and Guardian have suffered more than average, and I don’t believe their catastrophism is coincidental.

See whole story here: http://www.climate-resistance.org/2014/01/buy-a-newspaper-or-the-planet-dies.html

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Dana Nuccitelli, phone your office.

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January 23, 2014 7:02 am

Still 200 K Kook Aid drinking Marxists who imbibe the cult of warm’s warmed-over urine er science ? Sad really. Who ever said that public education would lift the intelligence of the ‘masses’ was quite mistaken. These people should not be allowed to vote.

MikeN
January 23, 2014 7:08 am

You need two changes to the graph to give a good picture. What is the level of other newspapers circulations’ declines? And at what point was Dana hired?

Tim Groves
January 23, 2014 7:24 am

“Think Monbiot and you have the Guardian mindset, think of a roomful of Monbiots and you have the Guardian readership.”
Interestingly, George Monbiot flew over to the Daily Mail last week and did a column on the recent flooding. I thought it was odd behavior in view of his view of that newspaper. Last year he was ranting on about the poor quality of its weather forecasters or something. But perhaps the Moonbat is currently thinking of leaving the sinking ship.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2541773/Drowned-EU-millions-Thought-extreme-weather-blame-floods-Wrong-The-real-culprit-European-subsidies-pay-UK-farmers-destroy-trees-soak-storm.html

Todd
January 23, 2014 7:48 am

As Crosspatch said above, the WSJ is holding it’s own. Frankly, that’s the only paper I’d bother reading, anymore. Sure, I can get right/libertarian opinion in a million different places, but the WSJ is the only place I see offering up hard news, anymore. Same for the WSJ-Live channel on my Roku.

Gail Combs
January 23, 2014 8:11 am

Ferdinand (StFerdinandIII) says: January 23, 2014 at 7:02 am
I sugest you read Dumbing Down America by Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld, before you blame the victims.

DirkH
January 23, 2014 8:28 am

richardscourtney says:
January 23, 2014 at 3:32 am
“While I was typing my post to you (at January 23, 2014 at 3:29 am) DirkH was providing his post (at January 23, 2014 at 3:27 am) which proved my point!”
Interestingly you don’t refute my argument; but don’t bother trying.
All grand new political schemes of the 30ies were socialist because socialism was the shiny new thing. From FDR over Mussolini who started his career as a socialist to Stalin; even Churchill had welfare state leanings.
That socialism today looks like a rotten zombie with genocidal tendencies is not my fault so don’t blame me for it.

irregular
January 23, 2014 8:53 am

Have you seen how Fox News channel is beating the progressive news channels by big numbers? Not a coincidence. The majority of functionally literate humans, and even many who aren’t, (literate or human) in this country aren’t buying the progressive media line anymore. By the way, the Air America disaster was partly due to their under capitalization, financial scandals, and a huge marketing mistake. They failed to position themselves effectively against their real competition.

richardscourtney
January 23, 2014 9:48 am

DirkH:
At January 23, 2014 at 8:28 am you say to me

Interestingly you don’t refute my argument; but don’t bother trying.

I don’t need to. I would only hinder the enjoyment of people laughing at your so-called “argument”.
Similarly, my question (at January 23, 2014 at 6:16 am ) to M Simon provides all that needs to be said in response to the idiocy of him and Silver Ralph who seem to think they made a point (yes, they really do!).
Richard

January 23, 2014 10:22 am

It’s called Jumping the Shark

more soylent green!
January 23, 2014 10:40 am

Argus says:
January 22, 2014 at 4:06 pm
“Wall St. Journal was still increasing in circulation.”
My recent WSJ subscriptions (one for me, one as a gift for my bro) are likely responsible 😉
Feels damn good seeing the WSJ on my lawn each morning. Give it a try.

I love that paper. But it’s pricey.

more soylent green!
January 23, 2014 10:45 am

Our local rag (The Kansas City Star) has also experienced a large drop in circulation in recent years. You can blame the one-sided, unbalanced left-wing editorial policy. You can blame the foolishness of trying to cater to millennials who didn’t prefer to get their news from print. You can blame the nation’s demographics — the generation that prefers to read the daily paper is dieing off.
But I blame the funny pages. Years ago, the paper decided the daily comics needed more diversity. Political correctness triumphed over entertainment (it’s the comics, for crying out loud!). One columnist responded to complaints about the comics by saying “Family Circus” might be offensive to some readers, so we had no reason to complain about comics actual readers actually found offensive..

Charlie
January 23, 2014 12:23 pm

The Guardian is for middle class public sector employed arts graduates living in London and a few locations in Manchester.

Admad
January 24, 2014 1:13 am

January 24, 2014 1:28 am

Admad, funny but a tad unfair.
Monbiot is thoughtful and engaged – just usually wrong.
But he does try to confront the issues. He did rethink about nuclear power and veganism (as the song says).
Now the others at Guardian environment section; Carrington, Hickman and Dana Nucitelli. They don’t even think.
Except Dana – he knows he is lying.

Admad
January 24, 2014 1:44 am

Mr Nuttycelli is next to receive my attentions – watch out for an update on the NearwoodMusic channel!
Thanks.

Perry
January 24, 2014 3:04 am

How long will that $1 billion last? Selling the family silver is not a strategy for longevity. Further reading on the Guardian‘s tax hypocrisy:
http://order-order.com/2014/01/21/guardian-sells-autotrader-for-1-billion-moment-of-truth-for-guardianistas/

Tom O
January 24, 2014 5:47 am

I think one of the reasons WUWT and similar sites are “thriving” and others are not is that you can comment on this site without having to sign in through facebook or yahoo or google or some other account where every comment you make across every site you go can be added into a nice big file that can be used to “categorize” who you are and what you stand for – whether or not their pigeon hole fits you or not. I gave up making comments on many sites simply because of that. Is that true? Maybe not, but the one thing I have learned in this life is that whatever can be used to do harm – no matter how much good it can do – will be used to harm, not help as there is always more money to be made hurting people than helping them. The debate on climate change being an obvious example.

Syd F
January 24, 2014 4:48 pm

I was born and raised in Manchester and in the 50s and 60s we were proud of the Manchester Guardian as an intelligent and informative national paper based in a provincial English city. The UK is so dominated by London, that the Manchester Guardian’s development and survival in a town other than London was something of a minor miracle. The spelling mistakes that resulted in Private Eye christening it the Grauniad came from the hot metal process and the lack time available to get the printed paper down to the South East of England. The ever increasing consolidation of every UK institution into London finally sucked the Guardian in and the rot seemed to set in.
But even now I don’t think it is all bad. The Guardian pushed the parliamentary bribes scandal into the spotlight and did the same with the NSA spying allegations. The Guardian has played a major role in exposing the style of UK journalism that was developed by News International, resulting in the current court cases. In several areas, its campaigning has been effective and beneficial. But it is not a source of accurate facts and detailed reporting any more. Too much of the straight news is always coloured by opinion. And on scientific issues it can be pathetic. Science news isn’t suited to the “todays news is tomorrow fish and chips wrapper” operation that is a daily newspaper. Climate change, whatever that is , can not really be the subject of new articles and editorial every day or even week. Once a month would be appropriate for a heavyweight analysis of any new research or information.
So I stick with it but I am keenly aware of its limitations.

Syd F
January 30, 2014 3:49 am
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