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Global Warming was just one issue The Club of Rome (TCOR) targeted in its campaign to reduce world population. In 1993 the Club’s co-founder, Alexander King with Bertrand Schneider wrote The First Global Revolution stating,
“The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
They believe all these problems are created by humans but exacerbated by a growing population using technology. “Changed attitudes and behavior” basically means what it has meant from the time Thomas Malthus raised the idea the world was overpopulated. He believed charity and laws to help the poor were a major cause of the problem and it was necessary to reduce population through rules and regulations. TCOR ideas all ended up in the political activities of the Rio 1992 conference organized by Maurice Strong (a TCOR member) under the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP).
The assumptions and objectives became the main structure of Agenda 21, the master plan for the 21st Century. The global warming threat was confronted at Rio through the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and creation of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It was structured to predetermine scientific proof that human CO2 was one contribution of the “common enemy”.
The IPCC was very successful. Despite all the revelations about corrupted science and their failed predictions (projections) CO2 remains central to global attention about energy and environment. For example, several websites, many provided by government, list CO2 output levels for new and used cars. Automobile companies work to build cars with lower CO2 output and, if for no other reason than to appear green, use it in advertising. The automotive industry, which has the scientists to know better, collectively surrenders to eco-bullying about CO2. They are not alone. They get away with it because they pass on the unnecessary costs to a befuddled “trying to do the right thing” population.
TCOR applied Thomas Malthus’s claim of a race to exhaustion of food to all resources. Both Malthus and COR believe limiting population was mandatory. Darwin took a copy of Malthus’s Essay on Population with him and remarked on its influence on his evolutionary theory in his Beagle journal in September 1838. The seeds of distortion about overpopulation were sown in Darwin’s acceptance of Malthus’s claims.
Paul Johnson’s biography of Charles Darwin comments on the contradiction between Darwin’s scientific methods and his acceptance of their omission in Malthus.
Malthus’s aim was to discourage charity and reform the existing poor laws, which, he argued, encourage the destitute to breed and so aggravated the problem. That was not Darwin’s concern. What struck him was the contrast between geometrical progression (breeding) and arithmetical progression (food supplies). Not being a mathematician he did not check the reasoning and accuracy behind Malthus’s law… in fact, Malthus’s law was nonsense. He did not prove it. He stated it. What strikes one reading Malthus is the lack of hard evidence throughout. Why did this not strike Darwin? A mystery. Malthus’s only “proof” was the population expansion of the United States.
There was no point at which Malthus’s geometrical/arithmetical rule could be made to square with the known facts. And he had no reason whatsoever to extrapolate from the high American rates to give a doubling effect every 25 years everywhere and in perpetuity.
He swallowed Malthusianism because it fitted his emotional need, he did not apply the tests and deploy the skepticism that a scientist should. It was a rare lapse from the discipline of his profession. But it was an important one.
Darwin’s promotion of Malthus undoubtedly gave the ideas credibility they didn’t deserve. Since then the Malthusian claim has dominated science, social science and latterly environmentalism. Even now many who accept the falsity of global warming due to humans continue to believe overpopulation is a real problem.
Overpopulation was central in all TCOR’s activities. Three books were important to their message, Paul Ehrlich’s The Population Bomb (1968) and Ecoscience: Population, Resources and Environment (1977) co-authored with John Holdren, Obama’s Science Czar, and Meadows et al., Limits to Growth, published in 1972 that anticipated the IPCC approach of computer model predictions (projections). The latter wrote
If the present growth trends in world population, industrialization, pollution, food production, and resource depletion continue unchanged, the limits to growth on this planet will be reached sometime within the next one hundred years.
Here is what the TCOR web site says about the book.
They created a computing model which took into account the relations between various global developments and produced computer simulations for alternative scenarios. Part of the modelling were different amounts of possibly available resources, different levels of agricultural productivity, birth control or environmental protection.
They estimated the current amount of a resource, determined the rate of consumption, and added an expanding demand because of increasing industrialization and population growth to determine, with simple linear trend analysis, that the world was doomed.
Economist Julian Simon challenged TCOR and Ehrlich’s assumptions.
In response to Ehrlich’s published claim that “If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000” – a proposition Simon regarded as too silly to bother with – Simon countered with “a public offer to stake US$10,000 … on my belief that the cost of non-government-controlled raw materials (including grain and oil) will not rise in the long run.”
Simon proposed,
You could name your own terms: select any raw material you wanted – copper, tin, whatever – and select any date in the future, “any date more than a year away,” and Simon would bet that the commodity’s price on that date would be lower than what it was at the time of the wager.
John Holdren selected the materials and the time. Simon won the bet.
Global warming used the idea that CO2 would increase to harmful levels because of increasing industrialization and expanding populations. The political manipulation of climate science was linked to development and population control in various ways. Here are comments from a PBS interview with Senator Tim Wirth in response to the question, “What was it in the late 80s, do you think, that made the issue [of global warming] take off?” He replied,
I think a number of things happened in the late 1980s. First of all, there were the [NASA scientist Jim] Hansen hearings [in 1988]. … We had introduced a major piece of legislation. Amazingly enough, it was an 18-part climate change bill; it had population in it, conservation, and it had nuclear in it. It had everything that we could think of that was related to climate change. … And so we had this set of hearings, and Jim Hansen was the star witness.
Wikipedia says about Wirth,
In the State Department, he worked with Vice President Al Gore on global environmental and population issues, supporting the administration’s views on global warming. A supporter of the proposed Kyoto Protocol Wirth announced the U.S.’s commitment to legally binding limits on greenhouse gas emissions.
Gore chaired the 1988 “Hansen” Senate Hearing and was central to the promotion of population as basic to all other problems. He led the US delegation to the September 1994 International Conference on Population and Development in Cairo Egypt.
That conference emerged from Rio 1992 where they linked population to all other supposed problems.
Explicitly integrating population into economic and development strategies will both speed up the pace of sustainable development and poverty alleviation and contribute to the achievement of population objectives and an improved quality of life of the population.
This theme was central to Rio+20 held in June 2012 and designed to re-emphasize Rio 1992.
The Numbers
The world is not overpopulated. That fallacy is perpetuated in all environmental research, policy and planning including global warming and latterly climate change. So what are the facts about world population?
The US Census Bureau provides a running estimate of world population. It was 6,994,551,619 on February 15, 2012. On October 30, 2011 the UN claimed it passed 7 billion; the difference is 5,448,381. This is more than the population of 129 countries of the 242 listed by Wikipedia. It confirms most statistics are crude estimates, especially those of the UN who rely on individual member countries, yet no accurate census exists for any of them
Population density is a more meaningful measure. Most people are concentrated in coastal flood plains and deltas, which are about 5 percent of the land. Compare Canada, the second largest country in the world with approximately 35.3 million residents estimated in 2013 with California where an estimated 37.3 million people lived in 2010. Some illustrate the insignificance of the density issue by putting everyone in a known region. For example, Texas at 7,438,152,268,800 square feet divided by the 2012 world population 6,994,551,619 yields 1063.4 square feet per person. Fitting all the people in an area is different from them being able to live there. Most of the world is unoccupied by humans.
Population geographers separate ecumene, the inhabited area, from non-ecumene the uninhabited areas. The distribution of each changes over time because of technology, communications and food production capacity. Many of these changes deal with climate controls. Use of fire and clothing allowed survival in colder regions, while irrigation offset droughts and allowed settlement in arid regions. Modern environmentalists would likely oppose all of these touted evolutionary advances.
Ironically The Fallacious Problem is The Solution
It all sounds too familiar in the exploitation of science for a political and personal agenda. But there is an even bigger tragedy because the development the TCOR and IPCC condemn is actually the solution.
All of the population predictions Ehrlich and others made were wrong, but more important and damning was they ignored another pattern that was identified in 1929 and developed over the same period as the Mathusian claims. It is known as the Demographic Transition.
It shows and statistics confirm, population declines as nations industrialize and the economy grows. It is so dramatic in developed countries that the population pyramid results in insufficient young people to support the massively expensive social programs for the elderly. Some countries offset this with migration, but they are simply creating other problems. Countries that don’t allow or severely limit migration such as Japan face completely different problems. Some countries offer incentives for having more than two children, such as the announcement by Vladimir Putin in Russia. China took draconian, inhuman, steps by limiting families to one child. The irony, although there is nothing funny about it, is they are now the largest producer of CO2 and their economy booms. If they had simply studied the demographic transition and let things take a normal course the tragedies already incurred and yet to unfold could have been avoided.
The world is not overpopulated. Malthus began the idea suggesting the population would outgrow the food supply. Currently food production is believed sufficient to feed 25 billion people and growing. The issue is that in the developing world some 60 percent of production never makes it to the table. Developed nations cut this figure to 30 percent primarily through refrigeration. In their blind zeal those who brought you the IPCC fiasco cut their teeth on the technological solution to this problem – better and cheaper refrigeration. The CFC/ ozone issue was artificially created to ban CFCs and introduce global control through the Montreal Protocol. It, like the Kyoto Protocol was a massive, expensive, unnecessary solution to a non-existent problem.
TCOR and later UNEP’s Agenda 21 adopted and expanded the Malthusian idea of overpopulation to all resources making it the central tenet of all their politics and policies. The IPCC was set up to assign the blame of global warming and latterly climate change on human produced CO2 from an industrialized expanding population. They both developed from false assumptions, used manipulated data and science, which they combined into computer models whose projections were, not surprisingly, wrong. The result is the fallacy of global warming due to human CO2 is a subset built on the fallacy of overpopulation.
Alan – you said:
Thanks Mario. This is tricky business and encouragement helps. Your words bring up more aspects of what we all must overcome. When we don’t have it within ourselves, we can’t see it in others. It’s difficult for us to accept the truth of things which exist beyond our own experience or beliefs. Once we pick up the knife, our fate answers for the blood we spill.
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Are you a religious person?
It just seems to me that your wording suggests so. If you base your opinion on faith alone – fine. I get it. And I would never argue against that. I would never belittle someone’s faith in something because that is up to them. If I am right then maybe you think that all of God’s creatures are precious?
Meanwhile, I am having a look at the club of Rome which seems to be the source of much of the debate here. I inadvertently called it the Church of Rome in my google search. Once I realised my mistake I found some links. It’s all well and good being accused of demonstrating a view similar to something when in fact you don’t know what it is in the first place.
Anyway, so in 1972 a ‘think tank’ ( don’t shoot the messenger) was set up to discuss the relationship between economical population growth and the perceived finite resources to do that. This resulted in the production of a book called “The limits of growth”
Now I could spend hours and hours researching this, but I simply don’t have the time. I have a young family ( I know, call me a hypocrite).
I see references on the net to Malthus as well. In the same article about the COR I also read a reference to the exponential increase in population. Unfortunately for me I also used the same word exponential. I even used the word divergence when describing the disparity (in my opinion) between population and available resources. And all this before I even read about the Club of Rome. So here is my dilemma. I am conveying the view that we do not need any more people on this planet ( though categorically I deny that I think we should reduce the number). That is based alone on what I see with my own eyes. I am 41 years old (yes, born in the same year as the COR produced their book). That’s called irony. I find myself struggling more and more as each year passes to pay the bills which 10 years ago would have been quite affordable. My father retired at the age of 65, having made his contribution to the state. He continues to enjoy his retirement – a legacy that will become unachievable for the next generation, including myself. I dread to think what the situation will be like when my young family go out into the working world to try and find a job or buy a house. In reality, the only way my family will do that is when they inherit from me. 10 percent of children in the UK are living in poverty. Fortunately I do not include my family in that. That is the reality of my selfish western world existence. This is the reality of a third world existence – Millions of children are dying in 3rd world countries from a lack of basic requirements like water and food. They don’t have a sofa like me; they sit on the ground and wipe their backside with whatever they can lay their hands on. They don’t have a roof over their head They die from preventable diseases. It breaks my heart when I see these people suffering like they do. I understand why they have so many children – because so many die. These are my grounds for why it does not make sense to encourage a larger population – which is what you (Alan or whoever adopts the same belief) are alluding to if I adopt your philosophy. If I use your rule of thumb – if you are not discouraging population growth then you must be encouraging it.
Gail
You said:
Dude, if you can not OWN property (and therefore grow your own food) then you ARE property!
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And do you think with the housing shortage it is going to get any better with even more of us on the planet. You are complaining about the very thing that is symptomatic of an ever increasing population.
I do wonder sometimes.
Chris,
Here’s an interesting link that you might enjoy. http://vhemt.org/
Those people believe in the extinction of humanity.
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Chris says:
January 15, 2014 at 10:27 am
“I simply believe we don’t need any more humans on the planet.”
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People who say that really mean that we don’t need any more “other people” on the planet. They never act when someone suggests a high bridge…
You complain that your utility bills are too high because there are too many other people driving up costs, yet you’re completely aware of the lie behind that idea. Your artificially high utility costs are in reality, one of the more visible manifestations of the belief that too many humans exist.
Don’t complain about having to pay your utility bill. After all, you’ve not complained about the deaths of your countrymen due to those same high bills. Celebrate your utility bill. It’s the symbol and reminder of a bargain you made.
Alan,
I did not say that other people are driving up the cost of my utility bills ( you are misquoting me again). My energy bills are increasing because of the green tax that I am paying to support renewable energy. This has been instigated by the threat of man made climate change. Furthermore, they have gone up because of speculation of fuel shortages. Not really speculation though. All the coal pits have been closed in the UK; so now we have to buy our coal from Europe, which makes it expensive. But for the threat of man made climate change we would be using the coal we have and not spending stupid sums of money on wind farms. That is a fact – not some conspiracy theory about global depopulation. It is down to EU rules and policy on green energy.
Anything else?
I disagree with the article. Of course Mathus was right, as populations do tend to increase geometrically, – and he was obviously hoping something could be done about it. The world listened, and we developed birth control, encouraged smaller families, improved farming etc.
So Mathus was right and the criticisms of him are naive. Maybe the world can accommodate more people, up to some ultimate limit, but why would you want to? We are already stressing the environment.
Alan said:
Chris,
Here’s an interesting link that you might enjoy. http://vhemt.org/
Those people believe in the extinction of humanity.
Where on earth do you find this stuff. Only someone that actually seeks it out would even find this kind of rubbish.
And you say I might enjoy it!!
You are not doing yourself any favours here Alan.
Alan
You quoted me:
“I simply believe we don’t need any more humans on the planet.”
You replied
People who say that really mean that we don’t need any more “other people” on the planet.
I say
What planet are you on? What’s the difference?
This is “You’ve been framed isn’t it”
Nigelj
Thank you. Some normality finally. As I said in my earlier posts – big difference between what we can do and what we should do.
I have since been called a mass murderer and someone that supports genocide. Though technically genocide applies to a specific populus’ of people; usually of religious or ethnic origin and not the general population. A point that is really quite irrelevant in the grand scheme of things atm.
The idea that too many human beings exist is the most dangerous idea that mankind has ever faced. There are any number of individuals and groups working to enforce the untimely reduction of human populations through the direct actions of man.
There is no anecdotal example of human suffering, or death which can support the idea that too many human beings exist. No rationalization can justify the consequences of the willful implementation of policies designed to reduce human populations by bringing about unnecessary deaths of individuals. No amount of obfuscation will hide the fact that such policies must have the willing support of large numbers of the population in order to succeed, which in turn require mass adherance to the philosophical underpinnings of the idea and threat to mankind, that too many human beings exist.
nigelj:
At January 15, 2014 at 12:19 pm
No. Malthus was completely wrong. This demonstrated by subsequent reality.
How and why he was wrong is explained in my above post which this link jumps to
I have repeatedly asked you to refute my argument in my post at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/05/overpopulation-the-fallacy-behind-the-fallacy-of-global-warming/#comment-1526318
Richard
nigelj:
I apologise that I copied a line when copying an address.
The line says
I have repeatedly asked you to refute my argument in my post at
It should not be in my post to you and I ask you to ignore it.
Sorry.
Richard
Richardscourtney said:
No. Malthus was completely wrong. This demonstrated by subsequent reality.
How and why he was wrong is explained in my above post which this link jumps to
I have repeatedly asked you to refute my argument in my post at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/05/overpopulation-the-fallacy-behind-the-fallacy-of-global-warming/#comment-1526318
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So you are right and everyone else is wrong just because you say so. You state that you have repeatedly asked the poster to refute your argument / POV / whichever you wish to call it. Conversely I could say that neither you or anyone else has provided me with a document that states Malthus wanted mass extermination; which I have asked for in an earlier post.
As I said in earlier posts, people are not here to answer your demands. And to repeat what I also said in an earlier post you cannot draw inferences from an absence of reply.
You have made sweeping generalisations and allegations as to what you consider Malthus implied or meant. The reality of the situation is that you do not know. He died 150 years ago. Don’t assign him to the ranks of all the crank groups that may want global destruction. By the same token, don’t do it to me either.
Chris:
At January 15, 2014 at 2:28 pm in response to my yet again pointing you to my clear,evidence-based argument which you have steadfastly refuse to address and which is at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/05/overpopulation-the-fallacy-behind-the-fallacy-of-global-warming/#comment-1526318
you have the gall to say to me
NO! I am right because the evidence says so.
Please note the number of people who wrote to applaud my argument in that post which you are unable to address.
That is the trouble with all you religious bigots. You repeatedly assert what you claim to “believe” (as you have repeatedly in this thread) and reply to all evidence and arguments which falsify your beliefs by saying, “So you are right and everyone else is wrong just because you say so.”
Such behaviour is often funny but in your case it is obscene because your self-professed “belief” is genocidal.
Richard
Alan Robertson says:
“There is no anecdotal example of human suffering, or death which can support the idea that too many human beings exist.”
Exactly right. I challenge anyone to show that a rise in population has ever been bad.
That would be a logical impossibility, since the rise in population proves a priori that it is good. Otherwise, the rise would cause a fall in population.
Those promoting the idea that there are too many people are every bit as evil as any murdering Eugenicist.
Alan Robertson:
It seems you are still following this thread.
I write to point you to another WUWT thread where the egregious Chris is stating falsehoods about you (and me).
This link is to the first in his series of astonishingly untrue posts in that thread
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/15/warmists-are-never-wrong-even-when-supporting-genocide/#comment-1537112
Richard
nigelj says:
“I disagree with the article. Of course Mathus was right…”
Malthus was wrong, as the enormous rise in the global population proves beyond any doubt.
Just because “we developed birth control, encouraged smaller families, improved farming etc.”, that does not mean Malthus was right. In fact, it confirms that he was wrong. Human ingenuity was enough to overcome the supposed barrier to population growth of insufficient food, which was Malthus’ central argument.
Malthus was talking about humans, who have the ability to overcome adversity such as insufficient food supplies. Malthus did not take human ingenuity into account. We are not talking about ants, or amoebas. Human intelligence negates the Malthus argument.
You can argue, “But what if…”, or you can accept reality. Reality proves that Malthus was wrong.
richardscourtney says:
January 15, 2014 at 3:32 pm
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Thanks for heads up
Chris says:
Alan,
I did not say that other people are driving up the cost of my utility bills ( you are misquoting me again). My energy bills are increasing because of the green tax that I am paying to support renewable energy.
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You are not paying it to support anything. You are paying because you have to. What does that buzz-word “renewable” mean to you? Does it give you a good feeling?
So, are you saying that you support burning woodchips and food (that so many people compete for, such that there’s enough humans?) Are you only a proponent of forcing everyone to pay for solar panels that very few people would buy without huge assistance from real tax payers? Do you take all of your subsidies (tax write offs) so you don’t have to pay the full burden of your “fair share” of taxes? Of course you do. It would be foolish if you didn’t. I see hollowness in your words.
That you don’t see it, suggests an ideology that filters reason from you. If I were forced to work with people who thought as you do, I’d fly over the cuckoo’s nest or get pretty close to going postal.
richardscourtney says:
January 15, 2014 at 3:32 pm
Alan Robertson:
It seems you are still following this thread.
I write to point you to another WUWT thread where the egregious Chris is stating falsehoods about you (and me).
This link is to the first in his series of astonishingly untrue posts in that thread
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The only astonishingly untrue posts are the one’s made by you and Alan claiming that I am supporting mass genocide or extermination. You really can’t appreciate that making allegations like that against a person in a public forum is unacceptable.If anyone needs to apologise it is you for your astonishing and clearly demomnstrated insinuations.
Chris:
re your post at January 16, 2014 at 1:07 am.
You are an egregious liar who is posting lies on the other thread. I and Alan Robertson have each objected to your lies about us on that thread and Gail Robertson has explained on that thread what you have been asserting on this thread.
I make no “insinuations”.
I observe that you repeatedly advocate people being culled and claim you are not calling for genocide while excluding all other possible ways to reduce population. And you tell lies about people who disagree with your call for genocide.
Nasty is an inadequate word to describe you.
There is no “insinuation” in any of that.
Richard
Gail Combs:
I write to apologise to you.
At January 16, 2014 at 3:21 am I wrote Gail Robertson when I should have written Gail Combs.
I offer my sincere apologies for this error.
My only excuse is that I was writing to Chris. Dealing with him provides similar feelings to those when removing something unpleasant from the instep of one’s shoe, and such feelings are distracting.
Richard
Richard – you really are a piece of work. You are behaving like a spoilt child that has thrown his toys out of his pram. Your last post demonstrates exactly the type of person you are. To vocalise that you get similar feelings to having shit on your shoes when ‘dealing’ with me speaks volumes quite frankly.
I am amazed that the moderators let you get away with type of verbal abuse.
If a mod is reading this I respectfully ask that all posts that falsely claim I am in support of genocide be removed.
Chris:
I write this to acknowledge your post at January 16, 2014 at 9:57 am.
You have still not apologised for your lies about Alan Robertson and me..
Apologise then crawl back under whatever stone you slid from under.
Richard
richardscourtney says:
January 16, 2014 at 3:20 pm
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Chris has now declared (on the more recent thread) that he is picking up his toys and running home. He just couldn’t make anyone fall for his thin philosophy.