EPA, Climatology And The Courts: The Issue is Corrupted, Not Poor Science.

Guest essay by Dr. Tim Ball

Watts Up With That? (WUWT) recently reported on the submission of an Amicus Curiae application to the US Supreme Court (SCOTUS). It challenged the scientific legitimacy of the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) actions to control CO2. Courts generally, but especially SCOTUS, will not involve themselves in scientific disagreements because they say they don’t understand the science. Most people, including me, don’t think the Court will hear the case. However, I believe there is an approach the Courts would entertain.

My presentation at the Heartland Climate Conference in Washington DC, spoke to the central problem and solution. A tenet common to science and the law that should not be violated is premeditation of an act. For example, in law there’s a clear distinction between murder and premeditated murder. Premeditation has absolutely no place in science; predetermined results are meaningless. It is inherent in the action of the IPCC as they attempted to prove rather than disprove the hypothesis that human CO2 is causing global warming. Scientists who tried to practice proper science and disprove the hypothesis were marginalized as skeptics and latterly deniers.

My comments evolve from experience with lawsuits on scientific issues. I know firsthand that courts at any level do not want to consider scientific disputes. From their perspective it is expressed in the vernacular as ‘your paper against my paper’. What’s needed is something that transposes the issue from a science to a legal argument.

There are three serious problems related to attempts to bring the EPA matter before the Supreme Court.

1. Science and technology are central to society as more and more legal cases develop that require judgment. As a Chair of committees on water management for an entire drainage basin or hazardous waste management for a large city I learned of the challenges to the law and lawyers of scientific conflict. I was aware of the problem because counseling students I realized most lawyers are Arts students. When I sought a lawyer for my legal cases I asked how well they had done in Taxation courses because I knew it is the one most lawyers fail first time round. It is increasingly untenable that the Supreme Court is unable to make judgments on scientific issues. Conflicts involving science will expand as environmentalism impinges across political boundaries for example. The public are increasingly aware of the problem the law faces when ‘experts’ present completely contradictory evidence. In addition, sadly, we learn of corrupted science in all fields everyday – it appears related to the post-modern approach exemplified by Greenpeace co-founder Paul Watson who said, It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true. In politics, it is part of Saul Alinsky’s dictum in Rules for Radicals that the end justifies the means. These values were applied when climatology was adopted for a political agenda. It paralleled the use of consensus for a science issue when it mainly has application for politics.

2. I understand the EPA case against Massachusetts was determined under administrative law that gives bureaucracies a very powerful advantage. It appears the State of Massachusetts was guided into bringing the lawsuit that claimed the EPA were not performing their function of protecting the public from a “harmful substance” in order to get it to the Supreme Court. The EPA lost, deliberately in my opinion, which forced the appeal to the Supreme Court. This means the arguments EPA used in the Massachusetts case, about why they should not deal with CO2, very telling and important. In my opinion, they should be part of the argument against EPA’s actions. The Supreme Court ruled that the EPA must control CO2 as a harmful substance using administrative law. It was precisely the result the EPA wanted in order to bypass Congress. This ability to bypass elected representatives is increasingly the ploy of those who seek total control and unaccountability. Maurice Strong used it when he created the IPCC using the bureaucrats from the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). As Mary McCarthy wrote, Bureaucracy, the rule of no one, has become the modern form of despotism.

3. The issue in the EPA case is not ‘your paper versus my paper’. The EPA accepted IPCC science completely, not because they realize its limitations, but because it suited their political agenda. Therefore, I believe the best chance of getting the case before the Supreme Court is to demonstrate that the IPCC results were premeditated and corrupted. Evidence should include the emails leaked from the Climatic Research Unit (CRU); the manipulation and malfeasance including the data and the models; and the vast difference and discrepancies between the IPCC Science Report and the Summary for Policymakers (SPM). The case then becomes ‘their corrupted paper against our paper’. The final blow in the argument must be that ‘their corrupted paper’ fails because the fundamental, inescapable, judgment of science is accuracy of prediction, (Feynman’s observation). The fact the IPCC changed from predictions to projections as early as 1995 because of failed predictions, confirms they knew the problems. They compounded this by leaving the public and especially the media to believe they were predictions.

The EPA chose the results of the IPCC for a political agenda. If they knew the results were wrong then their action was a deliberate deception. They can’t argue, like the Courts, that they don’t understand the science – it is their job to understand. If they didn’t know they are incompetent. What a wonderful irony to have the EPA political agenda defeated by the corrupt practices used to advance the IPCC political agenda.

Despite this, I wish the Amicus application well. I agree with the comments that at least they are trying to do something. Hopefully, if it fails it won’t reduce the opportunity for future applications to SCOTUS. The issue of misuse of science and the need for courts to understand science grows. The problem this creates are understood when you consider a SCOTUS that includes scientists. Which science discipline would you include? The evolution of climate science practiced by a collection of specialists in the generalist discipline of climatology illustrates the problem. It is a major reason why I decided to withdraw from participation in the Application.

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more soylent green!
December 19, 2013 1:14 pm

One thing about Massachusetts v. EPA — Ordinarily when somebody is sued, they want to win. But the EPA wanted to lose and thereby be granted new powers by the courts not authorized by law.

December 19, 2013 1:30 pm

“It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.” -Paul Watson, Co-Founder of Greenpeace
That quote is falsely attributed to Watson. It comes from an article published by Watson in 2006, which is critical of Greenpeace, and Watson attributes it to “Dr. Patrick Moore, President of Greenpeace Canada 1981″, who he worked with when founding Greenpeace and for several years afterwards.
Watson uses the quote to describe what he considered a highly misleading fundraising campaign undertaken by Greenpeace and Moore to raise money to stop whaling, when they did nothing of the kind, but instead just generated photo-ops and other PR material that made it look like that’s what they were doing. One might not agree with Watson or his cause, but at least he’s an honest man who does what he says he’s going to do, and has waged many successful campaigns to stop the killing of whales and dolphins.
http://www.seashepherd.org/commentary-and-editorials/2008/10/30/the-truth-about-greenpeace-and-whaling-357

Steve C
December 19, 2013 2:24 pm

“Which science discipline would you include?”
Engineers. Or at the least one engineer for every theoretician. Imagine a bench of Burt Rutans running a fine-tooth comb through the average green claim and you’ll get the idea.

December 19, 2013 4:07 pm

There is a more fundamental problem in IPCC science being predetermined. The IPCC is not looking for all causes of global warming. Only human causes.

Rattus Norvegicus
December 19, 2013 5:03 pm

For all you who don’t know anything about the court, they granted certiorari on Oct 15. This means that they agreed to hear the case, not that they heard arguments. Arguments are scheduled for Feb. 24 of next year.

Berényi Péter
December 19, 2013 6:04 pm

There are idiots sitting in your Supreme Court.

“EPA can avoid taking further action only if it determines that greenhouse gases do not contribute to climate change”

Although they claim to lack scientific expertise, they they are not ashamed to reverse the null hypothesis, a genuinely scientific issue.
see MASSACHUSETTS v. EPA (No. 05-1120) 415 F. 3d 50, reversed and remanded.

December 19, 2013 6:49 pm

Gail Combs says:
December 19, 2013 at 11:28 am (in reference to the land use map)
Crikey Gail, I couldn’t even see the green areas at first. They’re smaller than the Indian Reservations. Looks like Clinton had the heads-up on the NWO plan to put about 220 million of you in FEMA camps for extermination.
Welcome back BTW.

December 19, 2013 6:51 pm

Berényi Péter:
Brains are evidently not a requirement for service on our Supreme Court.

December 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Gail Combs says December 19, 2013 at 11:28 am

I will add to that that Carroll Quigley was Bill Clinton’s mentor.

I’m not seeing that; let’s visit the definition of ‘mentor’:
as a noun – an experienced and trusted adviser
as a verb – advise or train (someone, esp. a younger colleague)
Clinton took ONE class from Quigley at Georgetown in his freshman year … this does not exactly a mentor make. Quigley was simply one of Bill’s early college-level teachers
Clinton naming Quigley as an important influence on his aspirations and political philosophy in 1991 does not exactly a mentor make either.
The majority of ‘stuff’ on this topic (not surprisingly) on the internet revolve around the usual con spir acies … had Bill worked with or become a TA or adjunct prof at Gerorgetown I would think this would make a good basis for this claim.
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December 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Neo says December 19, 2013 at 11:33 am

Bill Clinton hadn’t been elected yet in October of 1992.

Neo, you’re sticking too closely to the facts.
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Myrrh
December 19, 2013 8:30 pm

Neo says:
December 19, 2013 at 11:33 am
Gail Combs says:
December 19, 2013 at 9:36 am
One of the problems people keep missing is the USA ALREADY signed the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change treaty in June 1992 and ratified it in October of 1992 under Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton hadn’t been elected yet in October of 1992.
It was Bush not Clinton:
http://bushlibrary.tamu.edu/research/public_papers.php?id=4953&year=1992&month=10
“Statement on Signing the Instrument of Ratification for the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change
1992-10-13
“Today I have signed the instrument of ratification for the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change, which I submitted to the U.S. Senate for advice and consent on September 8, 1992. The Senate consented to ratification on October 7, 1992. With this action, the United States becomes the first industrialized nation (and the fourth overall) to ratify this historic treaty.
“I signed this convention on June 12, 1992, in Rio de Janeiro at the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development (UNCED). The convention was also signed by 153 other nations and the European Community. Today I am calling on them to join us in ratifying the convention as soon as possible and making a prompt start in its implementation.
“The Climate Convention is the first step in crucial long-term international efforts to address climate change. The international community moved with unprecedented speed in negotiating this convention and thereby beginning the response to climate change.”
Clinton signed the Kyoto Protocol according to this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyoto_Protocol
“U.S. position The U.S. signed the Protocol, but did not ratify it. In the US, ratification of the Kyoto Protocol would require the treaty to be approved by both the Senate and Executive branch (i.e., the president) of the US government. Before the Protocol was agreed on, the U.S. Senate passed the Byrd-Hagel Resolution unanimously disapproving of any international agreement that 1) did not require developing countries to make emission reductions and 2) “would seriously harm the economy of the United States”.[111] Therefore, even though the Clinton administration signed the treaty,[112] it remained only a symbolic act and was never submitted to the Senate for ratification.”
However, its link to the Clinton page makes no mention of Kyoto… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_administration

Brian H
December 19, 2013 10:33 pm

Paul Pierett says:
December 19, 2013 at 1:11 am
Thank you, Anth0ny. Well said

Dr. Tim Ball wrote the piece. Read the heading, don’t just skim the article.
Guest pieces are the majority, many times, as A-y gets busy or the pipeline gets full. Get used to it!

Chad Wozniak
December 19, 2013 10:58 pm

Our best hope may be that Obama’s mendacity concerning the so-called “affordable care act,” now clearly recognized by the American public, will also be seen by the public as attaching to his climate agenda. The severe winter that has already begun – the fifth in six years – may help with this.

Gail Combs
December 20, 2013 2:03 am

Neo says:
December 19, 2013 at 11:33 am
Gail Combs says:
December 19, 2013 at 9:36 am
One of the problems people keep missing is the USA ALREADY signed the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change treaty in June 1992 and ratified it in October of 1992 under Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton hadn’t been elected yet in October of 1992.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Signature, ratification in 1992 and entered into force in 1994: http://unfccc.int/essential_background/convention/status_of_ratification/items/2631.php
So yeah it was Bush who got us into it and it went into force under Clinton. Bush also started pushing WTO and it was Clinton who convinced Congress to ratify it just like the Shrub started the Patriot Act and Obama who extended it. The difference between the two parties is only in the heads of the voters.
(That what I get for quickly grabbing the info off of google and not double checking the dates)

December 20, 2013 8:24 am

Although I agree with you that the EPA overstepped its boundaries and deciding they have the right to regulate greenhouse gas emissions, I think you’re splitting hairs in regards to differences between predetermined and determined results for climate change. Every climatologist (i.e. people with advanced college degrees and studying climate) say that is a virtual foregone conclusion that human activity is causing a rise in global temperatures for the past 40 years (If not longer) so you’re simply wrong when you claim that current climate change beliefs are scientifically invalid.

Zap
December 20, 2013 4:22 pm

JIm
Bill Clinton mentioned Quigley in his Inaugural Speech…..Quigley is the only Historian to be mentioned by a President in that particular circumstance.
“Toward the end of the speech Clinton mentioned that “as a teenager I heard John Kennedy’s summons to citizenship. And then, as a student at Georgetown, I heard that call clarified by a professor named Carroll Quigley, who said to us that America was the greatest country in the history of the world because our people have always believed in two things: that tomorrow can be better than today and that every one of us has a personal, moral responsibility to make it so.”
This was not the first time that Clinton had paid tribute to the memory of his Georgetown professor. A few days earlier, a story on Clinton’s background mentioned that he had never forgotten Quigley’s last lecture. “Throughout his career he has evoked [this lecture] in speeches as the rhetorical foundation for his political philosophy,” according to the Washington Post, which offered another Clinton quotation praising Quigley’s perspective and influence.[1] A kindly old professor appreciated as a mentor by an impressionable, idealistic student? This is how it was interpreted by almost everyone who heard it, particularly since Quigley’s name was not exactly a household word.”
The bottom line is nitpicking over Bush vs Clinton vs Obama vs Nixon is missing the point entirely….they are all one and the same and the CFR, Tri Lateral Commission and The Bilderberg Group call the shots in this country and in most of the Western Countries as well.
Read about Woodrow Wilson and the founding of the Fed if you want to see how politics in the USA REALLY works, how it still works and how it always has worked.
Read the works of Anthony Sutton and JT Gatto……Gatto’s book about The US Education System is quite damning.
My official motto when it comes to politics is this…..
YOUR PARTY SUCKS!
If you get my drift
: )

Zap
December 20, 2013 4:45 pm

Gail
As you point out the Rep vs Dem debate is so far from the mark it should be laughable at this point…..Clinton set the stage for this mega derivatives bubble when he signed the repeal of Glass Steagal and The Commodities Modernization Act……..when this ends most Western countries including the US will be bankrupt and we can thank all the Dems and all the Reps that have ever been in office for the calamity that follows
http://www.bis.org/statistics/dt1920a.pdf
It is all about the bankers!
: )

P. HUMVEE
December 21, 2013 12:59 am

The validity of scientific premises can always be raised in administrative law on the ground that the decision-maker made a decision “so unreasonable that no reasonable person could make it” (at least it can in England and Australia; I assume there’s a similar ground in the USA.) This would cover the logical fallacy of circular reasoning which from what I can tell is the standard reasoning process of the warmists. Another ground is bias, which is specifically intended to catch out pre-determined conclusions.
Interestingly enough, the law to restrain unlawful executive action was developed by the common law judges in the 13th century, which shows that they were more awake to the dangers of arbitrary executive action than most politicians, media and academe today.

Zap
December 21, 2013 4:57 am

Jim
Oh and by the way Jim…..before you get a bit TOO into ragging on Gail
ever seen this bit of documentation about Bill Clinton?

: )

Zap
December 21, 2013 4:59 am

Hey that post didn’t let me Rickroll Jim for Gail!!!
It shows the video in the post!!!???……damn….science and technology march on without me!!!
: )