Dr. Judith Curry writes about the Cowtan and Way paper which (according to some pundits) purports to “bust” the temperature pause of the last 17 years by claiming we just didn’t pay enough attention to the Arctic and Antarctic where there is no data. They do this by infilling data where there is none, such as NASA GISS tries to do by infilling temperatures from stations far away with their smoothing algorithm.
GISS station data with 250km smoothing:
GISS station data with 1200km smoothing:
Breathless interpreters of Cowtan & Way claim that by doing the same with satellite data instead of tortured surface data, Voilà “the pause” disappears.
Cowtan & Way are trying to address this lack of surface station data in these regions by doing infill from satellite data. At first glance, this seems an admirable and reasonable goal, but one should always be wary of trying to create data where there is none, something we learned about in Steig et al’s discredited paper on the supposed Antarctic warming. Plus, as some WUWT readers know, there’s a reason that satellite temperature data coverage doesn’t fully cover the poles. See the information on the UAH data at the bottom of this post.
A video of their methodology follows.
WUWT readers will note the before and after HadCRUT imagery from Cowtan & Way below. Take special note of the Arctic.
A discussion on that Arctic temperature infilling addition at high latitude follows Dr. Curry’s analysis.
Dr Judith Curry writes:
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Let’s take a look at the 3 methods they use to fill in missing data, primarily in Africa, Arctic, and Antarctic.
- 1. Kriging
- 2. UAH satellite analyses of surface air temperature
- 3. NCAR NCEP reanalysis
The state that most of the difference in their reconstructed global average comes from the Arctic, so I focus on the Arctic (which is where I have special expertise in any event).
First, Kriging. Kriging across land/ocean/sea ice boundaries makes no physical sense. While the paper cites Rigor et al. (2000) that shows ‘some’ correlation in winter between land and sea ice temps at up to 1000 km, I would expect no correlation in other seasons.
Second, UAH satellite analyses. Not useful at high latitudes in the presence of temperature inversions and not useful over sea ice (which has a very complex spatially varying microwave emission signature). Hopefully John Christy will chime in on this.
Third, re reanalyses in the Arctic. See Fig 1 from this paper, which gives you a sense of the magnitude of grid point errors for one point over an annual cycle. Some potential utility here, but reanalyses are not useful for trends owing to temporal inhomogeneities in the datasets that are assimilated.
So I don’t think Cowtan and Wray’s [sic] analysis adds anything to our understanding of the global surface temperature field and the ‘pause.’
The bottom line remains Ed Hawkins’ figure that compares climate model simulations for regions where the surface observations exist. This is the appropriate way to compare climate models to surface observations, and the outstanding issue is that the climate models and observations disagree.
Is there anything useful from Cowtan and Wray? Well, they raise the issue that we should try to figure out some way obtain the variations of surface temperature over the Arctic Ocean. This is an active topic of research.
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More from the same post at Dr. Curry’s site here
What is really funny is how Dana Nuccitelli has done an about-face since the satellite data now supports his argument. In his Guardian 97% piece [cited in Dr. Curry’s article] he’s all for this method.
But, just two years ago he was trashing the UAH satellite data on SKS as “misinformation”.
[http://www.skepticalscience.com/uah-misrepresentation-anniversary-part1.html]
But Dana thinks UAH data is apparently OK today. What a plonker.
I will give Dr. Cowtan props though for realizing what the hypers don’t. He says this in the Guardian article:
“No difficult scientific problem is ever solved in a single paper. I don’t expect our paper to be the last word on this, but I hope we have advanced the discussion.
I give him props for having a sense of reality, something sorely lacking in climate science today.
Here’s why trying to use the satellite data to infill surface data at the poles is problematic:
Take a look at this latest image for 1000mb (near the surface) from the polar orbiting satellite NOAA-18, one of the satellites UAH now uses for temperature data:
Source: NOAA/NESDIS Office of Satellite Data Processing and Distribution (OSDPD)
Note how the data near the poles starts to get spotty with coverage? Note also how the plot doesn’t go to 90N or 90S?
NOAA doesn’t even try to plot data from there, for the reasons that Dr. Curry has given:
Second, UAH satellite analyses. Not useful at high latitudes in the presence of temperature inversions and not useful over sea ice (which has a very complex spatially varying microwave emission signature).
NOAA knows high latitude near-pole data will be noisy and not representative, so they don’t even try to display it. UAH is the same way. Between the look-angle problem and the noise generated by sea ice, their data analysis stops short of the pole. RSS does the same due to the same physical constraints of orbit and look angle.
As you can see, the polar orbit isn’t truly polar. Here are maps from UCAR that helps to visualize the problem:

As you can see, the orbit path never reaches 90N or 90S.

Source: http://www.rap.ucar.edu/~djohnson/satellite/coverage.html#polar
They write:
Note that the orbit is slightly tilted towards the northwest and does not actually go over the poles. While the red path follows the earth track of the satellite, the transparent overlay indicates the coverage area for the AVHRR imaging instrument carried by NOAA/POES satellites. This instrument scans a roughly 3000 km wide swath. The map projection used in this illustration, a cylindrical equidistant projection, becomes increasingly distorted near the poles, as can be seen by the seeming explosion of the viewing area as the satellite nears its northern and southern most orbital limits.

So, not only is the satellite coverage distorted at the poles due to the look angle, the look angle issue actually causes the satellite to image a wider swath of an area known to produce noisy and highly uncertain microwave data. Basically, the higher the latitude of the satellite imaging past about 60N/60S, the more uncertain the data gets.
It seems to me that all that Cowtan & Wray have done is swapped one type of highly uncertain data infilling with another. The claim that the addition of this highly uncertain data to HadCRUT4 seems to contradict ‘the pause’ most certainly isn’t proven yet, as even Dr. Cowtan admits to in his caveat.
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DirkH says:
November 15, 2013 at 9:15 am My Null hypothesis is that warmists are corrupt.
Cui bono.
Thank you Dirk. While your faith is touching, it does not address what I said in any way at all.
My corruption is so great that I cannot afford to access the relevant paper, so my remark was based on this analysis from realclimate http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/11/global-warming-since-1997-underestimated-by-half/ “Cowtan and Way circumvent both problems by using an established geostatistical interpolation method called kriging – but they do not apply it to the temperature data itself (which would be similar to what GISS does), but to the difference between satellite and ground data. So they produce a hybrid temperature field. ”
I can’t really see why they would misrepresent the methods used, even if they are corrupt, as they are praising how clever it was.
If you read a rebuttal which contains such a glaring error in the very first line, how much do you trust it? Presumably Curry read the paper in question, so either she misunderstood it, or she is misrepresenting it on purpose.
BogusSophist says:
November 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm
“I can’t really see why they would misrepresent the methods used, even if they are corrupt, as they are praising how clever it was.”
I don’t rule out stupidity.
“If you read a rebuttal which contains such a glaring error in the very first line, how much do you trust it? ”
What is J Curry’s glaring error?
The Sophist directed me to RC; an experience I deeply abhor; but I found this over there:
Michael Sweet says:
13 Nov 2013 at 10:40 PM
“Robert Way has published 4 papers. All are on the subject of climate change. The suggestion that only one is relevant is false. He is a graduate student, how many papers do you expect? One of his papers is the widely discussed paper with the group from Skeptical Science (where he posts regularly) on scientific consensus. Two big hits and he is only a graduate student! What will he publish next year?”
And googling it one finds:
http://iopscience.iop.org/1748-9326/8/2/024024/article
So my Null hypothesis (see above) looks very good indeed; and Way is one aspiring new agitprop artist obviously; a little usefool number twiddler for The Cause – whatever works.
Now I’m waiting for the Mc’s to make mincemeat out of it.
BogusSophist says:
November 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm
“What is J Curry’s glaring error?”
I already told you in the first post.
She criticises them for “Kriging across land/ocean/sea ice boundaries”
They did not use the technique for that.
They used it to “kriging – but they do not apply it to the temperature data itself (which would be similar to what GISS does), but to the difference between satellite and ground data.”
They are kriging vertically to generate ground temperatures from satellite readings of the troposphere, not horizontally across land/ocean/ice boundaries.
Can you tell the difference?
BogusSophist says:
“Can you tell the difference?”
I don’t care, Sophist. Now that I know who the guy is I need to stock up on popcorn. Because science this is not.
DirkH says:
November 15, 2013 at 1:44 pm
“Because science this is not.”
LOL you would not recognise science if it punched you on the nose.
Would anybody rational care to address the point I was making?
Are there any sceptics in the house?
Dear Dirk,
Popcorn is a GREAT idea, here, lol. Hope you have a good movie to watch, too, because this bogus paper is too dull to be entertaining for long.
That B.S. is a pretend sophistical reasoner means he or she is likely someone we know… heh. Leaving that aside to address (for the sake of preventing misunderstanding by the silent readers) the sophistry,
B.S. is either intentionally ignoring (a.k.a. being deceitful) the context for Judith Curry’s kriging remarks or is ignorant of it.
She is (see her post at: http://judithcurry.com/2013/11/13/uncertainty-in-sst-measurements-and-data-sets/) responding to this quote from the Guardian article (http://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2013/nov/13/global-warming-underestimated-by-half?CMP=twt_gu) which she had just cited:
(partial quote of Guardian article from Curry’s site; emphasis mine)
Thus, B. S. is mistaken (or lying) in his or her statement: “They used kriging to estimate the surface temperature from the satellite data which measures the troposphere temperature, not between surface temperatures.” (B.S. at 7:20am today)
Hope all is well over there, Dirk. Remember, as sickeningly green as it can get around you there, you are not alone.
Your American ally for truth,
Janice
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Thanks, Bogus Sophist (whoever you are, lol), for being our devil’s advocate to stimulate discussion. Keep up the good work. You are doing great!
#(:))
A clue! (well, heh, now we wouldn’t really know, though, would we? ….) B.S. spelled “skeptic” the British way… .
BogusSophist says:
November 15, 2013 at 2:26 pm
“LOL you would not recognise science if it punched you on the nose.”
Hm. Then you’re probably Lewandowsky. Now, listen Lew: I have no problem at all accepting that you can travel to the moon if you just burn enough Kerosene. You’re Australian, so you never managed, and the Amis only managed after the Germans showed them how to burn Kerosene properly; and NASA is currently having a private company 3D scan the last surviving F1 booster because Big Government is simply too stupid to do it themselves these days when they have no surviving Germans.
Well, it was fun talking to you, Lew, I’m deeply amused how you people tie yourself to an already discredited 2nd rate comedian like Way.
Janice Moore says:
November 15, 2013 at 2:28 pm
“Thus, B. S. is mistaken (or lying) in his or her statement:”
Thanks for dissecting it. I’m simply too lazy these days to still look for sense in anything the warmist machine does.
“Hope all is well over there, Dirk. Remember, as sickeningly green as it can get around you there, you are not alone.”
I’m outnumbered but not outsmarted…
@ur momisugly Dirk…. and never outclassed. #(:))
Hi Janice.
Don’t put too much store in the name, I like silly names and anonymity. John Smith would just be boring. No, you don’t know me, but you are somewhat smarter than Dirk, at least you got the right side of the planet, the right country. I’m anything but a sophist, I prefer facts and reasoning over rhetoric. Probably a sceptic really in the proper philosophical sense, though it is impossible to be certain, firm beliefs are for the gullible.
I gave the reference for where I got the vertical kriging, so no, that was not any invention of mine. Looking on Curry’s blog, there is an interesting exchange between her, Cowlan and Way. It is somewhat more complex than I thought based on the limited information I had. They do use kriging in some parts in the horizontal, but one point of their paper is a comparison of different methods of filling in the gaps to identify the most effective in different siruations. If you believe Curry to be infallible, then clearly she wins by default. If you read it with an open mind, you might learn something.
Did you enjoy the video? Buzz is a bit old school, the right stuff. He knows how to reason with [Snip. Read the site Policy. ~mod.]. I wouldn’t have the muscle or the nerve myself.
Janice Moore says:
November 15, 2013 at 2:28 pm
Thus, B. S. is mistaken (or lying) in his or her statement: “They used kriging to estimate the surface temperature from the satellite data which measures the troposphere temperature, not between surface temperatures.” (B.S. at 7:20am today)
Neither mistaken (although this happens on occassion) , nor lying (which never happens).
It’s his, to save you writing his or her, which could get tedious.
Here is the relevant quote:-
from realclimate http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013/11/global-warming-since-1997-underestimated-by-half/ “Cowtan and Way circumvent both problems by using an established geostatistical interpolation method called kriging – but they do not apply it to the temperature data itself (which would be similar to what GISS does), but to the difference between satellite and ground data. So they produce a hybrid temperature field. ”
My bold (If I have guessed the right tags).
This is the “hybrid method” refferred to in your quote of Judith’s quote.
BogusSophist says:
November 15, 2013 at 3:45 pm
“Hi Janice.
Don’t put too much store in the name, I like silly names and anonymity. John Smith would just be boring. No, you don’t know me, but you are somewhat smarter than Dirk, at least you got the right side of the planet, the right country.”
And in what country do you think Lewandowsky is currently, Mr. SuperSmart? You people are so amusing.
DirkH says:
November 15, 2013 at 5:45 pm
And in what country do you think Lewandowsky is currently, Mr. SuperSmart? You people are so amusing.
No idea where he is, why should I care as to his whereabouts?
You made a wild guess, then mistakenly assumed you were correct.
The odds were about seven billion to one!
Are you still pissed about recursive fury?
I found it quite a good read myself. it’s not often that a science paper makes me laugh out loud.
David Hoffer,
Even the UAH temperature data from 60 degrees north to 80.5 degrees north shows warming.
http://theinconvenientskeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/NP-Feb-2011-uah.png
This is the data that was used not the south pacific temperature trends that you use to justify your supposed “pause” in warming
http://theinconvenientskeptic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Tropics-UAH-change.png
jmitchell;
This is the data that was used not the south pacific temperature trends that you use to justify your supposed “pause” in warming
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I never said a single thing about the south pacific, or what I based the pause on. Don’t put words in my mouth.
BogusSophist says:
November 15, 2013 at 6:12 pm
“Are you still pissed about recursive fury?”
Why should I be pissed about a warmist crackpot ruining his reputation? No, I’m constantly amazed by these people.
“I found it quite a good read myself. it’s not often that a science paper makes me laugh out loud.”
I think I looked at it once; but I’ve seen too much propaganda in my life to actually still find the energy to read dreck like that.
[snip – fake email address. A real email address is required to comment here by policy – mod]
BogusSophist is Underminingorthodoxy, one of Drillbit Dana`s sock puppets on the Guardian Environmental pages. Still, I have to say kudos for coming over here, (full of) BS, where you can`t hide behind the new level of SkS moderating on CiF.
https://id.theguardian.com/profile/underminingorthodoxy/public
Can people like DirkH get a timeout from commenting when people are actually discussing the topic at hand and he continously butts in and steers the conversation elsewhere? I can see several points in the policy thats being violated.
I am still eager to read and learn more about this paper.
Here are some actual long-term high latitude stations (direct from the sources of UK Met Reader Antarctica and Environment Canada rather than the adjusted GHCN or GISS data). Should be clear that starting in 1979 or 1997 provides a false signal and/or polar amplication hasn’t actually occurred over the long-term.
In order of Amundsen Scott 90S, Mawson 70S, Faraday 65S and Eureka Nunuvut Canada 80N – all world-class weather stations staffed by several researchers.
http://s13.postimg.org/6w98pvd8n/Amund_Scott_90_S.png
http://s8.postimg.org/7l41rf5b9/Mawson_70_S.png
http://s11.postimg.org/q80w8vwv7/Faraday_65_S.png
http://s7.postimg.org/6y6u8vpuz/Eureka_80_N.png
If someone knows where the raw data for Greenland from DMI is, I’d appreciate it.
A lot of comments here are about the arctic regions however looking at the map of HadCRUT coverage there are large areas in other places like Africa and South America. To work out how relevant all the to-ing and fro-ing about the influence of the arctic values is, can someone please post what percentage of the missing coverage is in difference areas? It’s difficult to tell the areas from images due to the projection used in various images.
Pat of Charleston says:
November 14, 2013 at 1:22 pm
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Look at the INCREASED extent. Warmth is a funny thing. We are seeing climate change but it takes time. One day wit will all suddenly melt away. 🙂