Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
David Rose has posted this , from the unreleased IPCC Fifth Assessment Report (AR5):
‘ECS is likely in the range 1.5C to 4.5C… The lower limit of the assessed likely range is thus less than the 2C in the [2007 report], reflecting the evidence from new studies.’ SOURCE
I cracked up when I read that … despite the IPCC’s claim of even greater certainty, it’s a step backwards.

You see, back around 1980, about 33 years ago, we got the first estimate from the computer models of the “equilibrium climate sensitivity” (ECS). This is the estimate of how much the world will warm if CO2 doubles. At that time, the range was said to be from 1.5° to 4.5°.
However, that was reduced in the Fourth Assessment Report, to a narrower, presumably more accurate range of from 2°C to 4.5°C. Now, however, they’ve backed away from that, and retreated to their previous estimate.
Now consider: the first estimate was done in 1980, using a simple computer and a simple model. Since then, there has been a huge, almost unimaginable increase in computer power. There has been a correspondingly huge increase in computer speed. The number of gridcells in the models has gone up by a couple orders of magnitude. Separate ocean and atmosphere models have been combined into one to reduce errors. And the size of the models has gone from a few thousand lines of code to millions of lines of code.
And the estimates of climate sensitivity have not gotten even the slightest bit more accurate.
Can anyone name any other scientific field that has made so little progress in the last third of a century? Anyone? Because I can’t.
So … what is the most plausible explanation for this ludicrous, abysmal failure to improve a simple estimate in a third of a century?
I can give you my answer. The models are on the wrong path. And when you’re on the wrong path, it doesn’t matter how big you are or how complex you are or how fast you are—you won’t get the right answer.
And what is the wrong path?
The wrong path is the ludicrous idea that the change in global temperature is a simple function of the change in the “forcings”, which is climatespeak for the amount of downward radiation at the top of the atmosphere. The canonical (incorrect) equation is:
∆T = lambda ∆F
where T is temperature, F is forcing, lambda is the climate sensitivity, and ∆ means “the change in”.
I have shown, in a variety of posts, that the temperature of the earth is not a function of the change in forcings. Instead, the climate is a governed system. As an example of another governed system, consider a car. In general, other things being equal, we can say that the change in speed of a car is a linear function of the change in the amount of gas. Mathematically, this would be:
∆S = lambda ∆G
where S is speed, G is gas, and lambda is the coefficient relating the two.
But suppose we turn on the governor, which in a car is called the cruise control. At that point, the relationship between speed and gas consumption disappears entirely—gas consumption goes up and down, but the speed basically doesn’t change.
Note that this is NOT a feedback, which would just change the coefficient “lambda” giving the linear relationship between the change in speed ∆S and the change in gas ∆G. The addition of a governor completely wipes out that linear relationship, de-coupling the changes in gas consumption from the speed changes entirely.
The exact same thing is going on with the climate. It is governed by a variety of emergent climate phenomena such as thunderstorms, the El Nino/La Nina warm water pump, and the PDO. And as a result, the change in global temperature is totally decoupled from the changes in forcings. This is why it is so hard to find traces of e.g. solar and volcano forcings in the temperature record. We know that both of those change the forcings … but the temperatures do not change correspondingly.
To me, that’s the Occam’s Razor explanation of why, after thirty years, millions of dollars, millions of man-hours, and millions of lines of code, the computer models have not improved the estimation of “climate sensitivity” in the slightest. They do not contain or model any of the emergent phenomena that govern the climate, the phenomena that decouple the temperature from the forcing and render the entire idea of “climate sensitivity” meaningless.
w.
PS—I have also shown that despite their huge complexity, the global temperature output of the models can be emulated to a 98% accuracy by a simple one-line equation. This means that their estimate of the “climate sensitivity” is entirely a function of their choice of forcings … meaning, of course, that even on a good day with a following wind they can tell us nothing about the climate sensitivity.
Latitude says:
September 15, 2013 at 11:41 am
absolute garbage
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by refusing to address when something is limiting……people can get away with saying things that are ridiculous
@cd.
I am certainly not here to sabotage anything.
I do not think that the reasoning is correct.
I see no point in continuing with this rather unpleasant thread. I apologise if I have given offense.
richardscourtney says:
September 15, 2013 at 2:37 pm
I actually agree with a lot of RC’s earlier points. I’m not sure where all these sat with the above article. It seems to be going a bit off topic now and has become a bit of a “slagging match”. It’s a pity as I’m intrigued with GCMs and how they’ve managed to carry the authority of Gospel.
A quick review of who I am: I am less than 5 ft tall. Freckled. Almost full-blooded Irish. Long unruly light red hair that I don’t really know what to do with. Solidly built and a pretty good shot. Arm chair climate and weather hobbyist. Close to retirement. Love to fish and hunt. One BS and two Masters plus administrative coursework beyond that. Very few publications and presentations, none on climate science. One was original research on the auditory brainstem response to generated sudden-onset frequency specific tones presented rapidly and resulted in an averaged synaptic brainwave signal minus random brainwave noise, and published in a well-known journal. Educator by trade. Currently downsizing to sub teaching so I can hunt and fish whenever I choose. I have no doubt that Richard has more widely spoken on this topic than I have. Willis as well.
That said, I have at times, to myself and rarely in a comment, questioned their tone and mannerly responses to myself or other commentators, and I have more often questioned as well their theories. I believe that is part and parcel of this blog and the owner’s willingness to allow mostly unmoderated comments. I will continue to question science and proposed theories, sometimes being snarky and sometimes being serious, but rarely if ever will I be testy or rude. Testiness and rudeness speaks for itself, draws attention to itself, and judges itself, for better or for worse, without help from me.
Friends:
Now the arrogant troll has withdrawn, I will say did get a trivial point right about the difference between FDA and FEA (perhaps he did a google). As I said, they are similar. They are not the same. But the difference is not important to this thread or what I wrote.
Richard
Luther Wu says:
September 15, 2013 at 2:27 pm
RC Saumarez says:
September 15, 2013 at 2:30 pm
RC. what do you think I’ve been asking you to do other than to try to falsify my claims regarding my “black-box” analysis? That’s how science progresses. Are you waiting for an engraved invitation?
So yes, as Luther says, I’ve indeed shown that the models’ outputs reduce to an extremely simple one-line “black box” equation. Do you disagree with that result, and if so why?
I’ve also shown that this black-box result both agrees with, refines, and fully explains Kiehl’s finding that the climate sensitivity of the models is inversely related to the size of the models’ forcing … again, do you disagree with that result, and if so why?
Finally, my results show that the so-called “climate sensitivity” of the models is fully explained by the ratio of the trend of the model’s forcing to the trend of the model’s output, and that since the output is constrained by the historical record the logical corollary of that finding is that the models can tell us nothing about climate sensitivity … do you disagree with that result, and if so why?
Over to you,
w.
RC Saumarez says:
September 15, 2013 at 2:47 pm
I see no point in continuing with this rather unpleasant thread. I apologise if I have given offense.
I actually agree with a lot of your earlier points and you certainly didn’t cause me any offense. But I think Willis has a point as some of your posts do tend to lack “reference” to the actual points in the article. Anyway, you seem to be a nice chap but managed to have been drawn into a bit of a conflict – which in fairness is a bit of your own making as these things often are.
I would still encourage you to watch the link to Dr C Essex’s presentation.
@cd
your 1.44 post. I agree with the second part. I won’t comment on the first.
@ur momisugly Richard S Courtney.
I can assure that I did not google the difference. Read my papers!
cd:
At September 15, 2013 at 2:51 pm you say
Assuming they are pertinent to the thread, it would be helpful if you were to say what they were.
This because I only noted two points about models that he made (excluding his parting shot) and I refuted both. The second was a change of subject when he was shown to be wrong about the first. After that he turned nasty.
Richard
Pamela Gray says:
September 15, 2013 at 2:52 pm
While that’s generally true, I’m still waiting for your apology for your quite unpleasant rudeness above, accusing me of a host of things I’ve never done.
w.
RC Saumarez says:
September 15, 2013 at 2:57 pm
I won’t comment on the first.
I’m not even sure who I was talking about there – but it wasn’t you. It was addressed to you!
Willis Eschenbach says:
September 15, 2013 at 11:37 am
” “Can anyone name any other scientific field that has made so little progress in the last third of a century? Anyone? Because I can’t.”
Origin of life.
Craig Venter reports that he and his team are closing in on artificial life … ”
I know.
So he wants to prove that there was a creator.
Dawkins must already be having hissy fits.
Willis, what I was referring to was not the engineering advances of modern biochemistry, but the search for a mechanistic explanation for life from nothing in the absence of a creator, whose existence counts as invalid deus ex machina trick for the mechanistic scientists.
I find this article an interesting one. Richard it mentions that, “Some AGCMs use finite-difference methods…” Is this in disagreement with what you know about models? There are many such articles. Are you saying that models don’t use this method and should? Sorry I’m just not clear on your beliefs about these mathematical methods as they apply to climate research.
http://kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu/pubs/CISE.pdf
Note: look on the first page, 5th paragraph.
The “governor” is the atmospheric pressure gradient.
Willis, in my opinion, the very fact that one step forward and two steps back has been made is just what should happen given the disparity between the models and observations. It seems to me, though too slow for many of us, that the scientific process of understanding a complex climate is proceeding as it should?
[Pamela, I’m still waiting for an apology from you. -w.]
Folks, it is 99 degrees here in NE Oregon. Me and my big sis (rofl- she is only 5 ft 2 in) are headed for the redneck “pool” outback with cold beer at the ready. So I am off line for a little while.
DirkH says:
September 15, 2013 at 3:13 pm
Ah, my error. However, I note that the argument has changed from when I was a kid. Back then, the standard argument was encapsulated by the poet’s comment that poems were made by fools like me, but only God can make a tree … I see that argument is now out of fashion now that Craig may be able to make a tree, and it is replaced with the idea that if there is a watch there must be a watchmaker.
I fear, however, that your proposition that there is an invisible creator is by definition not falsifiable … since no one can falsify the existence of an invisible being. I mean, that’s what “invisible” means, no way to photograph, measure, weigh, or otherwise perceive such a creature …so being unable to find him/her/it means nothing.
And because of that, you’re way outside the scope of my question. I asked for scientific fields of inquiry, and something which can not be falsified is by definition outside the realm of science, which deals only with falsifiable claims..
All the best,
w.
Pamela Gray:
re your post at September 15, 2013 at 3:21 pm.
I don’t have “beliefs” about the models. I have understandings. There is a big difference.
There are dozens of models and they differ. This – as I explained above – is why it is an error to average their outputs.
Richard
RC Saumarez says:
September 15, 2013 at 2:28 pm
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I will go back and see if I can find that post, as I don’t remember seeing your information at the time, thank you.
Willis Eschenbach says:
September 15, 2013 at 3:27 pm
“I fear, however, that your proposition that there is an invisible creator is by definition not falsifiable … since no one can falsify the existence of an invisible being.
I mean, that’s what “invisible” means, no way to photograph, measure, weigh, or otherwise perceive such a creature …so being unable to find him/her/it means nothing.””
How is a Higgs Boson “found”; by wading through millions of noisy datagrams and then saying, yeah, there’s something at 100 MEv that fits our theory.
Similarly the existence of the invisible being can normally only be inferred. I say ‘normally’ because religious people hold that there are wonders; and epiphanies, which should be measurable as deviations from the mechanistic scenario if they exist and can be observed. That would be the invisible being showing itself through its meddling with its creations.
One interesting thing I found:
Complexity extrapolations estimate the age of life to be twice the age of the planet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_life#Coenzyme_world
Something that is by now unexplained.
Haven’t read all the comments, but mine is simple. Nail – Head
The point is that the models are entirely based on the initial assumption that feed backs are positive. Since that is wrong, as the atmosphere is showing us, no amount of computer power, crunch time or intimidation will produce the right answer with that assumption. The feed backs are governing feed backs, that steer us away from warming tipping points. The proof of that lies in the fact that the Earth has never, in 4 billion years, experienced run away global warming. Never!
We knew this from the very beginning
The IPCC may be lowering their projections, but they are still clinging to the wrong assumptions about feed backs. Consequently, we still don’t have much to cheer about scientifically.
Willis Eschenbach says:
September 15, 2013 at 3:27 pm
“I fear, however, that your proposition that there is an invisible creator is by definition not falsifiable … since no one can falsify the existence of an invisible being. I mean, that’s what “invisible” means, no way to photograph, measure, weigh, or otherwise perceive such a creature …so being unable to find him/her/it means nothing… and because of that, you’re way outside the scope of my question…”
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Willis, I’m commenting on words you just lightly touched upon, not your actual commentary…
It is trendy among many (typically) on the left to criticize other peoples’ ideas of God as an invisible figure, usually referred to as being “in the sky”. Such comments are often repeated as original, everywhere within the ‘progressive’ world online.
I’m not here to discuss God, but rather get in a few words about the devil, who I am convinced does not exist, since I’ve been all over hell, with no sign of ‘im so far.
Luther Wu says:
September 15, 2013 at 4:07 pm
“I’m not here to discuss God, but rather get in a few words about the devil, who I am convinced does not exist, since I’ve been all over hell, with no sign of ‘im so far.”
If you examine Anselm Of Canterbury’s / Gödel’s ontological proof, you will, interestingly enough, find that it holds for God but not for the devil.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_ontological_proof
(Gödel’s proof has just been validated for logical consistency by a theorem prover program at the Free University of Berlin; that’s why I stumbled across it.)