Historic variations in temperature number Four-The Hockey stick

Guest essay by Tony Brown

Section 1 Summary of a previous article;

A short while ago I published an article on ‘Noticeable climate change’ during the past 500 years, based on historical observation and instrumental records. To understand the context of this current article –the purpose of which is to extend and amplify this earlier work- it is linked to below and a brief recap of its findings has been made in the following paragraphs.

http://judithcurry.com/2013/06/26/noticeable-climate-change/

The referenced study noted that our climate changes frequently when calculated on an annual and decadal basis, in fact virtually no decade is like its predecessor or successor. Sometimes the change is fairly small but is often so ‘noticeable’ that humanity and nature will be affected. Figure 1 below illustrates this effect, where the brown verticals represent annual temperatures, the green is decadal and the red line represents fifty year steps.

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Figure 1; Annual, Decadal and 50 year periods from CET

The analysis is based on Central England Temperature (CET) to 1659 which is the world’s longest instrumental record, and my own reconstruction from that date to 1538. CET is said by a number of scientists to be a reasonable (but by no means perfect) proxy for global and to a greater extent Northern Hemispheric temperatures. In considering the historic instrumental temperature record and the paleo proxy reconstructions (shown in figure 2) that cover much longer periods, we should heed Hubert Lamb’s maxim that ‘We can understand the (temperature) tendency but not the precision’ so whilst accuracy to tenths of a degree is impossible, determining the general shape and direction of temperature travel is reasonable. Certainty in determining great historical temperature precision lies only in models.clip_image004

In then providing figure 2 below we can observe a number of results that can most usefully be summed up by repeating the conclusions from the original article;

Figure 2-paleo reconstructions plus CET in annual, decadal and 50 year steps

These conclusions were;

*By any criteria, climate change is frequent, indeed the ‘norm’. Variability of our climate on a decadal basis is considerable and is even greater on an annual basis.

*These decadal episodes of variability appear greater in the past than in modern times as can be seen in the sharp drops, then recovery, during the LIA episodes.

*However, there are tight 50 year ‘paleo’ boundaries, with the frequent oscillations currently on a slightly rising trend from the start of the instrumental temperature record in 1659, albeit with a sharp reversal in the last decade.

*There are some hints of a similar rise to broadly equivalent modern levels around 1540 in the reconstructed CET.

*Rising temperatures reflect the relative dearth of ‘old fashioned’ winters in the second half of the record, as well as changes in other seasons. Summers have the tightest boundaries, appreciably lower than the other seasons.

*Humans need to make substantial accommodation to cope with even relatively short periods of ‘different to normal’ weather. Consequently it might be useful for the authorities to consider ‘noticeable’ climate change as covering decadal rather than 30 year periods

*Paleoclimate reconstructions (figure 2) capture long term climate variability of 50 years and more quite well, but fail to pick up the much more variable fine grain of annual and decadal variability. Consequently a false picture of apparent climate stability in the past is portrayed.

* As paleoclimate reconstructions are usually only measured against global instrumental temperature records commencing 1880 they do not find any of the ‘hockey stick’ effects that can be seen in the older instrumental temperature records.

*When instrumental records are not available, the historic observed record of the past millennium is likely to be a valuable aid to the development of paleoclimate reconstructions using proxies.

Section 2 An examination of the ‘hockey stick.’

The so called ‘spaghetti’ graphs used in figure 2 above are interesting, but their range of variability (excepting Moberg et al) remain almost as limited as their iconic predecessor the ‘Hockey stick’ produced by Dr Michael Mann et al and from which the IPCC third assessment report graphic from 2001 was derived.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hockey_stick_graph

Consequently in view of its continued importance and to demonstrate the strengths and shortcomings of his model, and many of those that followed, it is reproduced below (red line) together with Hubert Lamb’s early pre computer graphic (blue line) that was the inspiration for the IPCC’s global temperature chart used in their first 1990 assessment. This is overlaid on to the CET data already referenced: light blue line 50 year segments and brown line for decadal information. It is all rebased to zero anomaly. The yellow shading illustrates the significant differences between the Mann and Lamb reconstructions and graphically illustrates the 1000 year long period of climate stability depicted by Dr Mann as compared to the much more variable climate researched by Lamb.

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Figure 3

In order to be able to make an easy visual comparison, in the next graph we have removed the 1990 IPCC graph and rebased CET, so the anomalies match with Dr Mann’s reconstruction which –until the modern instrumental record is inserted at the end- runs between minus 0.2 and minus 0.5C anomaly-somewhat cooler than CET.

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Figure 4 CET rebased with Mann et al 1998

The difference between a warm period such as the 1730 decade at plus 0.4C and a cold decade such as 1690 at some minus 1.4C anomaly measured via instruments can be seen to be far greater than the variations that any of the paleo reconstructions in figure 2 pick up . The Mann et al Hockey Stick (Figure 4) also illustrates very limited variability throughout its 1000 year long proxy reconstruction. The relatively short and intense perturbations noted above since 1538 are however again well captured in CET instrumental records and observations.

Section 3 Pros and cons of Paleo temperature proxy reconstructions.

Such proxy material as tree rings cannot be as accurate as instrumental records or detailed reconstructions using a variety of observational material-but there are nevertheless a number of obvious consequences that those who debate climate as either ‘realists’ or ‘sceptics’ need to face when considering this data;

*The first is that Dr Mann’s graphic (as do many of the other paleos) make a pretty god job of picking up the relatively limited temperature variability we can observe over a 40/50 year or longer period . This is confirmed when comparing the data with the CET 50 year instrumental ‘paleo’ (the horizontal blue line.) This is with the notable exception of the coldest period of the Little Ice age around 1690 and the subsequent recovery in the following decades, providing the most notable hockey stick in the record.

*The CET comparison to the global instrumental record (shown from 1900 in figure 4) is pretty good as is its comparison to the 50 year paleo records. Britain as a temperate country will have different climate characteristics/variability than the tropics or countries at other latitudes but it can be seen that CET provides a useful long term record validation, although Lamb’s maxim should be borne firmly in mind and precise accuracy and correlation at all times is impossible.

*The variability shown in the uptick from 1900 looks unusual only because an instrumental temperature record-which captures variability-is now used, whereas the long term paleo reconstruction proxies previously used, do not have this ability to capture short term variability and thereby present an impression of a ‘stable’ climate. The uptick is therefore purely an artefact of changes in methodology as a ‘paleo’ apple is swapped for an ‘instrumental’ orange.

*The 40/50 year paleo reconstructions (figures 2, 3 and 4 ) fail to capture the decadal variability (orange lines) let alone the annual range (shown in figure 2 as a brown vertical line). They consequently fail to ‘see’ such notable events as the great warming centred on 1730, the recovery around 1830 from the coldest decade (1810) since the depths of the LIA in 1690, and the final bursts of the LIA in 1840 and 1890.  Looking further back, the paleo reconstructions also do not replicate the considerable drop to the depths of the LIA around 1690, the (reconstructed) warmth around 1630, the period of well documented cold at the beginning of the 17th century and the sharp (reconstructed) rise around 1540 to something apparently approaching the temperatures at the end of the 20th century. In particular the paleo proxy reconstructions represent the severe perturbations of the various periods of the Little Ice age as merely shallow downwards blips, whilst the astonishing recovery around 1690 featuring the largest hockey stick in the record is a corresponding shallow upwards blip

*if the paleo proxy reconstruction can miss these considerable perturbation downwards, some doubt is thereby introduced as to whether they would catch other similar perturbations in the opposite direction most notably during the so called medieval warm period.

*it confirms that the instrumental temperature record shows an upward trend (with various reverses and advances) from the start of the CET instrumental record in 1659 making the 1880 start point for the instrumental global record used by GISS appear to be merely a staging post in the upwards trend, rather than the starting post.

*The sharp downwards trend in Britain from 2000 currently causing such concern to the Met Office can be seen in historical context as merely another episode of ‘noticeable climate change’ readily captured in the instrumental record, but this time that of cooling rather than warming.

*At around the year 2000 the real world CET data diverges from the composite global temperature comprising of tens of thousands of averaged and smoothed records. Amongst these are those showing cooling, warming and stasis which seem to be roughly cancelling each other out to create a ‘pause‘ in warming that is currently the subject of much debate.

The very limited deviation from the considerable climate stability illustrated throughout the paleo reconstructions -including the Mann et al 1998 ‘hockey stick’- is difficult to corroborate with actual instrumental or historic evidence. Similarly the continual downwards trend in temperature from the start of the Mann et al records from 1000AD to 1900 does not seem to be validated by other data.

Section 4 Comparison of paleo to Glacier movements

In this final graph we have calculated historic glacier movements during the last 3000 years. (See note 1) Over it we have inserted the Mann et al 1998 data covering the past 1000 years together with the decadal record from CET back to 1538.

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Fig 5-3000 year Glacier movements with CET decadal/50 year steps and Mann et al 1998

A closed blue horizontal line at the top of the graph equates to a period of glacial retreat (warmth) and a closed blue line at foot of graph demonstrates glacier advance (cold)

That glacial movements can be surprisingly short lived can be seen in the century long glacier advance around 1200 to 1300 AD, and to a lesser extent the 30 year retreat around 1730. Such short changes as noted in this latter period may be relatively common, but the records are unlikely to exist to be able to trace them in earlier times.

The small temperature deviations from the ‘norm’ shown in paleo proxy reconstructions- including that of Mann et al 1998-seem most unlikely to be of a scale that can precipitate glacier movements of any consequence. Several consecutive warm cold decades that can be noted in the instrumental records will however likely start such movements which will be accentuated if the prevailing characteristic of warmth or cold lasts for some time. In the case of the MWP this period of warmth lasted around 450 years . (Clearly however brief Warm periods can occur during a general glacial retreat and brief cold periods during glacial advance.)

That the paleo reconstructions somewhat accurately capture long term variability makes this feature useful. However, they appear to comprise of a very coarse sieve that allows the real world of constant noticeable climate change with considerable temperature swings that affects us all to slip through unnoticed. This makes the use of paleo reconstructions as the basis for far reaching policy changes somewhat problematic and counter intuitive as it is based on a belief that the past comprised of a relatively unchanging climate. A belief that is contradicted when the real world annual and decadal record is closely examined..

That CET appears to be a good –but not perfect- proxy of global temperatures can be seen in the paleo and instrumental record. There is a considerable body of literature from a number of leading climate scientists and related organisations that suggest that CET appears to be a reasonable but by no means perfect proxy for temperatures far beyond the shores of England. The author is preparing a piece for peer review entitled; ‘ Is CET indicative of Global or Northern Hemispheric temperatures?’

A future article will concentrate on the far greater extremes that can be noted in our historic weather events than in the modern record, perhaps not surprising in view of its observed greater variability and considerable historic perturbations.

A future article will also delve further back from the CET reconstruction to 1538 detailed in Part 1 of ‘The long slow thaw?’

http://judithcurry.com/2011/12/01/the-long-slow-thaw/

Early analysis suggests some evidence of a period around 1500 around as warm as 2000 and a sharp, but as yet not fully researched deterioration in the few decades prior to that which appears to have some corroboration in the glacier data which was researched separately. Beyond that period work continues in assembling the necessary historic and scientific material to enable the continuation of the reconstruction with some worthwhile degree of accuracy .

In looking at the disparity between paleo records and instrumental observed records It would be useful to see historical climatologists and modellers work more closely with each other in order that the past climate states and their variability can be more accurately depicted.

References and Notes.

Note 1 Glacier records have been painstakingly researched by numerous glaciologists and historians over many years. Their sources include church records, commissions of inquiries into glacier disasters, taxes on farms affected by glaciers, town records, population records, illustrations and lithographs, observations by travellers and scientists, scientific papers, historic articles on glaciers from contemporary sources in English, French, German and Italian, correlation with wine and grain harvest dates, alpine clubs, mountaineers and tree line/plant growth records amongst other sources. See references under.

References

‘The Little Ice Age’ by Professor Brian Fagan

‘History and climate’ edited by P D jones

‘Little ice ages ancient and modern Volume 1 and Volume 2’ Jean Grove

‘Climate history past and present’ Hubert Lamb

‘Times of feast, times of famine –a history of climate since the year 1000’ E Le Roy Ladurie

‘Paleoclimatology, reconstructing climates of the quaternary’ Raymond Bradley

‘Little Ice Age’ Michael E Mann Volume 1, The Earth system: physical and chemical dimensions of global environmental change,

http://www.meteo.psu.edu/holocene/public_html/shared/articles/littleiceage.pdf

P154 on Groves, Jones, Matthews research.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-cgnFsLkIAYC&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=glacial+advance+1220&source=bl&ots=y1cKpnhMdB&sig=hhX8s1K9KtGjIukXIepY2HSgC3M&hl=en&sa=X&ei=I7LmUZnGCKmh0QWnxIGQBA&ved=0CGUQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=glacial%20advance%201220&f=false

Barclay et al

http://web.cortland.edu/barclayd/publications/2009_QuatRes.pdf

Glaciers around 1640; fragments of reports are available for the period, such as the 1955 study by Guichonnet which suggested three Chamonix glaciers had reached a maximum by 1640 then retreated by small amounts. No doubt other detailed information will become available as more archival material is discovered.

The World glacier monitoring service records the more recent history of glaciation mostly over the last 150 years

http://www.grid.unep.ch/glaciers/pdfs/glaciers.pdf

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August 17, 2013 10:06 am

Salvatore Del Prete says:
August 15, 2013 at 11:48 am
Co2 and for that matter the greenhouse gas effect are a result of the climate not the cause of it.
The climatic system /oceanic system are driven by the sun,therefore it stands to reason any changes in solar output (variations) will have an effect on these two systems which in turn will have an effect on the climate.
The catch is the degree of magnitude change and duration of time of the solar variations must reach certain LEVELS in order to overcome the inherent negative feedbacks in earth’s climatic system ,along with natural earth bound random climate events(examples enso,volcanic activity).
In addition there are climatic thresholds that may be or may not be reached, which are directly tied to the degree in variation (magnitude change /duration of time)of the various items that control the climate. The sun being the source.
This is why it is very difficult to come up with correlations because there are so many parts of the climate system moving at the same time and many times in opposition as far as their evenual impacts on the climate

August 17, 2013 10:13 am

Salvatore Del Prete says:
August 16, 2013 at 10:01 am
That article came out today on the web-site iceagenow.com, and supports what I have been trying to say.
We will find out one way or the other ,because this current solar cycle will be the WEAKEST since solar cycle 5.
I bet my bottom dollar that solar cycle 24 has now entered it’s declining phase.
The evidence has been mounting toward global cooling in contrast to global warming from the atmospheric circulation patterns(more -ao), to low solar activity, to the an end of the global temp. rises, to the cold pdo/more la ninas,no further ocean heat content rise, to antarctica sea ice expansions, while the arctic sea ice is no longer on the decline,to arctic temp. north of 80 degrees north latitude continuing to display record cold conditions this past summer, low tropical activity, low tornadic activity etc etc.
Still no tropospheric hot spot near the equator, still no pronounced stratospheric cooling especially near the poles both of which are cornerstones of the global waming models, along with the more zonal (+ao) atmospheric circulation pattern.
I am fairly confident that the decline in temperatures will commence once solar flux readings decline from here which will not be that far off

August 17, 2013 10:17 am

Salvatore Del Prete says:
August 16, 2013 at 12:31 pm
Climate consist much more then just cycles, one can not extrapolate the climate based on cycles. Past history shows this clearly to be the case,if one goes back far enough..
Thresholds are out there that has caused the climate to change abruptly from time to time and in a dramatic fashion which will not allow the climate to fit into some neat cycle.Two recent examples are the 8200 year cold period and the Younga Dryas cold period.
Until one can explain the reasons for the causes of abrupt dramatic climate changes in the past (like in the above) any climate forecast for the future based on just climate cycles is not going to work out.
There are too many unknowns and the phasing of the items that control the climate need to be known as well as the duration of time of the phasing and the degree/direction of magnitude change of the items that are phasing that control the climate undertake.
To make matters worse does the phasing evenually lead to a climatic threshold being reached.
The phasing is toward a cooling trend starting around now and continuing at least to 2040, the question is what will be the character of the cooling trend. Will it be gradual or abrupt with spurts then a leveling off etc etc.

August 17, 2013 10:47 am

Tony Brown mentioning Dr. Mann’s hockey stick as having any sort of validity or even just mentioning it makes this article useless when it comes to having an approach to solve the climate puzzle. FALSE reconstructuions of past temperatures does nothing to further the study of climate science.
In addition Tony Brown, does not go back far enough to show a fair representation of past climate change. I say one should go back at least 20000 years, the maximum extent of the last major ice age and bring all the climatic changes forward from that point up to the present.
If done correctly one will see one of the most STABLE climate intervals since then, has been the period 1850-2000.
Climate changes 20000 -10000 years ago being many many times greater in degree of magnitude change both up and down then what the period he talks about shows, much less the 1850-2000 period.
The 1850-2000 period was when the sun emerged from the Dalton Solar Minimum and displayed a steady 11 year sunspot active cycle with peaks and lulls which kept the climate relatively warm since the Dalton , and in the same climatic regime . Variations yes(but in the same climate regime) due to random earthly climatic items changing such as enso, volcanic activity etc etc., which would mask any minor solar changes due to the regular 11 year sunspot cycle once the sun came out of the Dalton Minimum.
However this has changed (year 2005) when the sun entered into a prolonged solar minimum period which likely will result in the climate going back to a climate regime similar to the Dalton , if not even more severe, in the near coming years.
Cycles do not work over time.

Janice Moore
August 17, 2013 11:55 am

Well, Mr. Brown, apparently I missed with my attempt at a greeting above. Just in case you’d prefer this lovely song, sung in 1940 when things looked pretty hopeless, this American sends you belated birthday greetings and a reminder that even when all looks lost, THERE IS, EVEN NOW, HOPE.
“There’ll Always Be an England”

Happy Birthday

Tonyb
August 17, 2013 2:46 pm

Salvatore
I look forward to reading and then commenting on the article you no doubt intend to write that expands on the various theories and assumptions you have set out in your numerous posts here.
Good luck in being able to find enough detailed observed material to be abe to step back 20000 years and we all await with interest your clarification as to how the climate has evolved since that time
Tonyb

August 17, 2013 3:10 pm

” The author is preparing a piece for peer review entitled; ‘ Is CET indicative of Global or Northern Hemispheric temperatures?’”
Very interesting. The problem is that the same thing that makes the AO/NAO go positive also increases the trade winds.

Tonyb
August 17, 2013 3:16 pm

Janice
Thank you very much for your double birthday greeting. The travelogue was particularly enjoyable.As a belated birthday present from my son, this evening we went to an open air production of ‘waiting for godot’ in our local park.
It rained throughout the production and we all sat there in our waterproofs sheltered by gazebos and umbrellas. The actors pretended it wasn’t raining at all. That’s the mad British spirit for you! My regards to you
Tonyb

Janice Moore
August 17, 2013 10:12 pm

You are so welcome, Tonyb. My pleasure. Thank you so much for letting me know you read them!
(“That’s the [FINE] British spirit for you! imo)
Nice riposte to the Amazing Del Prete and His Never-ending Comment.
{Please leave square brackets to the mods. 8<) Mod}

richardscourtney
August 18, 2013 12:22 am

Tonyb:
At August 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm
You say

this evening we went to an open air production of ‘waiting for godot’ in our local park.
It rained throughout the production and we all sat there in our waterproofs sheltered by gazebos and umbrellas. The actors pretended it wasn’t raining at all. That’s the mad British spirit for you!

Ah. It seems you have not attended plays at the Minack Theater.
http://www.minack.com/webcams.htm
So it seems you have not had the glorious experience of being wrapped in bin liners against the driving rain while sat on the grass seating and drinking red wine when packed together with hundreds of others also watching the players leaning into an Atlantic gale.
In good weather, the Sun sets over the sea beyond the stage as you watch a play. And that is a great experience, too.
Cornwall is not that far from you so you can get to Porthcurno with a weekend visit (I will put you up if that helps). You can spend a day on the beach (sand, sea with safe swimming, surf, cliffs, caves and rock pools) or if the weather is bad a visit to the amazing telegraph museum
http://www.exeter.ac.uk/research/inspiring/casestudies/researchcasestudies/porthcurno/
And you can follow that with a meal in the excellent pub before walking up the path to the top of the cliff for an evening at the Minack.
A truly great ‘British Day Out’.
Richard

tonyb
Editor
August 18, 2013 4:00 am

Richard
We stayed at Marazion just a couple of weeks ago and went to the excellent Telegraph Museum and also Walked up to Minack so saw the setting. The show had not had a good review so we didn’t stay.
.We sent our sister there when she came over from Australia a couple of weeks ago-she said the setting was glorious but the show was dull.
We like St Michaels mount and the Gardens so the main attraction is Marazion. I wrote about it here at some length as you may remember as its a good indicator on non existent sea level rise since Roman Times
http://curryja.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/document.pdf
Good to see you posting again.
Tonyb

richardscourtney
August 18, 2013 8:16 am

tonyb:
Thankyou for your reply to me at August 18, 2013 at 4:00 am in response to my post at August 18, 2013 at 12:22 am.
You did not mention the link I provided to the item from Exeter uni.. It was this
http://www.exeter.ac.uk/research/inspiring/casestudies/researchcasestudies/porthcurno/
I had thought you may have mentioned it because I know you make use of that uni, in your studies. Indeed, my reason for posting was really to draw attention to the work the link mentions because I thought it may have pointed you to additional useful contacts. For example, the link says this

One of the most enlightening projects has been transcribing the George Spratt diaries from 1871 – 1909, which has given an invaluable insight into life at isolated telegraph stations and how this isolation affected staff working there. The diaries uncover revealing stories of life at Porthcurno for staff and their families and the harsh conditions of outstations around the world. They also showed how recruitment was carried out and how workers were trained as technology changed and working practices were modified. Staff were prone to physical and stress-related illnesses were common themes throughout.

“the harsh conditions of outstations around the world”
does sound potentially useful to you.
Research of the documents is already being conducted so the researchers may be willing to provide you with info. they come across which is of use to you if you tell them what you want.
I hope this is helpful.
Richard

Beta Blocker
August 18, 2013 9:53 am

Stephen Richards says: August 17, 2013 at 7:04 am ….. The biggest problem, and one that will only get bigger, is finding data on which one can rely. Personally I hate the use of anomolies and would much prefer to see absolute temps but I am also aware of the calibration issues around absolute. ……. The Beta Blocker approach is an interesting one “I think temps will rise. What do you think? ” but at the end of the day it is only going to be a guess in the same way that the models are only a guess. Whether those guesses are educated or not is immateriel.

Yes, that is a good summary of the Beta Blocker Analysis Framework. Make your best guess as to what will happen and why, while also recognizing how much uncertainty exists in our current knowledge of climate processes.
If you don’t want to go to all the trouble of performing your own detailed analysis and then documenting the results in Beta Blocker’s simplistic format, then just throw a dart at the CET 2007-2100 Dart Board.
For myself, I think that 200 years from now, the fitted trend line on the graph of CET as it appears in the Year 2200 edition of Wikipedia is likely to be roughly at 10.3 C in the year 2200, or about 0.6 C higher than in 2007; and that GMT will have followed roughly that same upward trend.
If one suspects as I do that the height of the MWP has not yet been reached, and that Mother Nature intends to follow a rough pattern of jagged ups and downs that is roughly similar to CET over the last 350 years in order to reach the height of the MWP, then naturally one wants to know what the absolute Global Mean Temperature was at that time.
Is there some approach or method which could be used to make an educated estimate of what the absolute Global Mean Temperature was at the height of the Medievel Warm Period — whatever that temperature was, whenever it actually occurred?

Salvatore Del Prete says: August 17, 2013 at 10:17 am ………. The phasing is toward a cooling trend starting around now and continuing at least to 2040, the question is what will be the character of the cooling trend. Will it be gradual or abrupt with spurts then a leveling off etc etc.

Suppose it happens that way between now and 2040. Under that scenario, how far does GMT have to fall, and how fast, before the Climate Science Industrial Complex (CSIC) generally acknowledges that something is amiss with their models?
Or do they just hang tough between now and 2040, all the while claiming that an upward trend in GMT is just around the corner, and would have already appeared had all that excess heat not gone into the deep oceans?

ralfellis
August 18, 2013 10:51 am

Four stations provide the information for the CET – Rothamsted, Malvern, Squires Gate and Ringway. One of those stations is at ‘Ringway’, which sounds charming and rural. So why do they still call it ‘Ringway’??
In reality, Ringway was renamed as Manchester International Airport in 1975, and that puts a whole different spin on the temperature readings from that station. The Stevenson Screen is next to the engine run-up bays, as can be seen on the Tinypic image. Manchester became a significant jet airport from the ’80s onwards.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Airport
Coordinates of the Stevenson screen, 53.3564 -2.2801
Picture of airport, and Stevenson Screen:
http://i42.tinypic.com/2dcantt.jpg
CET Measurement Uncertainties – by the Met Office 1878 to 2003
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/ParkerHorton_CET_IJOC_2005.pdf
.

ralfellis
August 18, 2013 11:04 am

Update:
It looks like the Ringway station (Manchester Airport) was replaced by Stoneyhurst in 2004.
Google Coordinates: 53.8449 -2.46847
This does look like a better site, but no doubt its temperature readings were calibrated by Ringway before they moved the station.

tonybclimatereason
Editor
August 18, 2013 11:43 am

Richard
my apologies, I thought it was just a link to the telegraph museum as a tourist attraction which I was going to return to this evening when I had more time to explore the various highways and byways of the various threads.
Yes, it looks interesting. I will see if I can follow up on anything. Many Thanks
Tonyb .

climatereason
Editor
August 18, 2013 11:49 am

ralfellis
The met office made uhi adjustments to CET to compensate for the move but have made none since, presumably because of the move back to a more rural site.
Philip Eden the weather man tries to keep a track of the ‘real’ CET on his web site. No historic temperature data set has great precision so a few tenths of a degree doesn’t change the worth of CET. However, there are many other stations worldwide that are substantially compromised and really shouldn’t be used in a historic global database.
tonyb

george e. smith
August 18, 2013 10:10 pm

To what do you attribute the sudden ,almost instantaneous jumps in Temperature, either up or down, as seen in the red and green data ? What is it that triggers a jump. and how can you predict when the next one will occur ?
Things, in nature tend to not change suddenly, specially over large areas.

richardscourtney
August 19, 2013 12:58 am

george e. smith:
At August 18, 2013 at 10:10 pm you say

Things, in nature tend to not change suddenly, specially over large areas.

Really?
What about earthquake-induced elevation change, coastal erosion change following a cliff fall, temperature and precipitation change from variation in ocean currents, effects of ENSO, PDO and AMO, etc.?
And the CET is a small area compared to regions affected by the changes I have mentioned.
I don’t know what caused the variations in the CET time series, but they are plausible. The mistaken idea of stable, unchanging climate underpins the AGW scare.
Richard

tonyb
Editor
August 19, 2013 1:57 am

George
As you can see in the first graph sudden and noticeable climate change on a decadal basis is very common. In Britain we have just had one such change from around 2000 but it will be more noticeable from 2002.
You can see this most clearly in the Met office chart linked below
.http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/hadcet/
I attribute it to natural variability caused by the position of the jet stream, local and national currents, warmth of ocean water, direction of winds etc.
All these important effects are disguised in the global record.
tonyb

August 19, 2013 10:37 am

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Janice Moore
August 19, 2013 3:08 pm

Dear Richard Courtney,
I was sorry to see Mr. Brown did not respond (I would have thought he would have accepted with pleasure!) to your gracious invitation to come visit you. Perhaps, he just got in a hurry in writing his comment. Anyway, I know how it feels to have invitations rejected or ignored and felt for you and, thus, wrote.
I hope YOU are enjoying your lovely seaside.
Your American ally in the fight for Truth in Science,
Janice
P.S. O Moderator, I will abide by your request above (8/17 re: my 10:12pm post) to cease from using [ ]’s. Please forgive me, though, if I do use them by mistake in the future — I have a decades-long writing style habit of using them for edited text. I will do my absolute best to comply.

george e. smith
August 19, 2013 9:04 pm

“”””””…….richardscourtney says:
August 19, 2013 at 12:58 am
george e. smith:
At August 18, 2013 at 10:10 pm you say
Things, in nature tend to not change suddenly, specially over large areas.
Really?
What about earthquake-induced elevation change, coastal erosion change following a cliff fall, temperature and precipitation change from variation in ocean currents, effects of ENSO, PDO and AMO, etc.?…….””””””
Well yes really. Now the graph claimed to be data for the Central England Temperature. Now I don’t know if that is a larger area than “””…coastal erosion change following a cliff fall, …”””; How often do the white cliffs of Dover fall ? Maybe that’s a large enough area. But by the steepness of the Temperature steps, the change in Temperature occurs in one year or less.
I’ve spent the best part of a century, living in and visiting a variety of relatively large areas and spending time there. I can’t recall a single case of something natural changing stepwise in a year or less, and then persisting for decades.
Well I missed out on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but then they weren’t natural events either; and not really that large an area (climate wise).
Now I didn’t say it never happens; meteor craters and all that. I guess the Mt Tarawera eruption in 1886 (or was it 3) did change a large area overnight; but that was a geologic event, not a climate one.
In any case those red and green data curves, look totally phony to me.

Richard Barraclough
August 20, 2013 3:52 pm

TonyB
Thanks for your analysis, and I also appreciate all the discussion it has generated.
A couple of points. I presume your anomalies are measured against the average of the whole series, rather than the 1961-90 used by the Met Office? In other words, about 9.2 C rather than 9.47.
And how did you get such a big drop in the last period? The average for the last 10 complete years (2003-2012) at 10,20 degrees is still fractionally above the previous 10 year period ending in 2002, which was 10,18. On the other hand, if your “decades” end in years ending with a 5, then does the last period represent only 7 years. This would give averages of 10.30 (anomaly 1.10) for 1996-2005, and 10.09 (anomaly 0.89) for 2006-2012, but this still appears a smaller drop than that shown on the graph.
Incidentally, the running 120-month mean has just dropped below that of the corresponding period from 10 years ago, for the first time since 1989.
We shouldn’t be too surprised at the decade by decade variation. If you do a similar analysis on this data set using a different number of years for your intervals, (say 8 or 13 for example), the anomalies also jump around. Indeed, it would be a coincidence if 2 consecutive periods were the same.
This year can lay claim to one record – not that it has any particular significance – the biggest warm up from March to July in the whole record – at 15.64 degrees C (28 degrees F). Not quite a continental rise, but quite suprising for this island, and very welcome

August 22, 2013 12:03 pm

If one goes to the Watts Up With That article June 2, 2013 by guest essay Dr. Don Easterbrook, titled Multiple Intense ,Abrupt Late Pleistocene Warming And Cooling , one will find much detail on the climatic changes that have taken place over the past 20,000 years and show how trival Tony Brown’s article is ,along with his reference to the hockey stick.
Again the climate has seen much greater swings both up and down over the past 20,000 years in comparisome to recnt times , ,while the very recent climate say the climate for the past 150 years has featured one of the most stable climate intervals going back at least 20,000 years.