EPW Hearing Room – 406 Dirksen
Link to live video follows. Click link in names for each person’s submitted testimony.
Witnesses
Panel 1
| Dr. Heidi Cullen
Chief Climatologist Climate Central |
| Mr. Frank Nutter
President Reinsurance Association of America |
| Mr. KC Golden
Policy Director Climate Solutions |
| Ms. Diana Furchtgott-Roth
Senior Fellow Manhattan Institute for Policy Research |
| Dr. Robert P. Murphy
Senior Economist Institute for Energy Research |
Panel 2
| Dr. Jennifer Francis
Research Professor Institute of Marine and Coastal Sciences, Rutgers University |
| Dr. Scott Doney
Director, Ocean and Climate Change Institute Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution |
| Dr. Margaret Leinin
Executive Director, Harbor Branch Oceanographic Institute Florida Atlantic University |
| Dr. Roger Pielke, Jr.
Professor, Center for Science and Technology Policy Research University of Colorado |
| Dr. Roy Spencer
Principal Research Scientist IV University of Alabama, Huntsville |
Live video here: Live Webcast – Flash
I noticed on Cullen’s presentation that Western wildfires have increased dramatically since 1970. Well, that may be true but what were they before the 70s? There could have been periods of time which much larger or more fires. If so, then her graph is misleading
Cullen presentation says:
Heavy downpours are increasing nationally (Figure 7), especially over the past three to five decades. According to the National Climate Assessment (currently available in draft form11) those events in the top 1 percentile of intensity have increased in every region of the contiguous United States since 1958
Well, we didn’t exceed the ‘safe limit’ of 350 ppm until almost 1990 (~24 years ago) so how can she attribute this to CO2 warming?
kramer says:
July 18, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Will cspan play these meetings again? I missed this one and want to check out Sanders, heard his panties were wadded up his democrat…
It appears that the Live Link posted at the end of Anthony’s article now contains a replay of today’s session. It begins at the 19:27 mark. Sanders appears at the 2:25:48 mark (and maybe other places; I didn’t watch the whole 3 hours 48 minutes.) Roger Pielke and Roy Spencer appear briefly at the 2:54:10 mark.
Doesn’t the (Re)insurance industry have a terrible conflict of interest on this topic? It would sure seem to me that the more the fear of CAGW is instilled in us, the more they can justify higher premiums in the present. And when it doesn’t pan out, don’t expect large rebates of the overpayment.
And as for the charts and stats put forth by the insurance guy, Nutter. I wouldn’t trust those AT ALL. They just might be motivated to make those stats tell the story they like. And there’s no telling what criteria they used in those chart categories and the stats therein.
KC Golden: “But we cannot implement these solutions at scale with out the active engagement and partnership of our federal government, including the United States Congress.”
Translation: We need the big teat of the fed govt to suckle on, in that grand old tradition of cronies throughout time.
Thank you, Chad, for the tip on how to read the testimony from today’s hearing.
Yes, I am disappointed, too. You make good points in your post.
Many good things lie ahead, nevertheless. Remember in the movie “The African Queen” when Rosie and Charlie have finally, after all their brave fighting to reach their goal, given up, lying exhausted in the bottom of their tired little boat? The camera moves up and out and…….. we can see what God can see: they are nearly there. They made it. Sometimes, it is only when things look hopeless from a human perspective that God steps in. He waits until the eleventh hour sometimes, because otherwise we would pridefully believe we achieved the victory all by ourselves.
Take heart! We may be nearly out of the CAGW jungle of lies.
That CAGW will fall is inevitable, for, in the end, truth always wins. It is just a matter of time.
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@kramer and Gunnygene — Well said!
“And as for the charts and stats put forth by the insurance guy, Nutter. I wouldn’t trust those AT ALL… .” [Onlooker for Troy]
Nor would I. Given his blatant conflict of interest in this matter, his testimony (including his exhibits) has as much probative value as a snow tire salesperson’s winter weather forecast….
or a windmill manufacturer’s testimony about the size of Big Oil’s likely reserves.
With the “hearing” itself intitled: “Climate change, it’s happening now” it pretty much gives the game away.
This is not a “hearing” because a hearing is a session designed to take evidence, err, that means like LISTENING not telling us its happening as soon as you set up the meeting and before you’ve heard any expert witnesses.
This is clearly not a hearing because those who organised it are NOT LISTENING. They are preaching.
This is clear abuse of due process. The object of hearings is to collect information, not to be used as a televised platform to diffuse dogma.
I have more to say near the end of the hearing in response to Jeff sessions, who wasn’t there for my main testimony.
Is the hearing on video somewhere now? Didn’t catch it live. Youtube maybe? I couldn’t find it there with a search.
cui bono says:
July 18, 2013 at 11:31 am
Saul Alinsky taught that to the Left during the Sixties. Obama and team play by his book completely. The vast majority of Democrats in the Senate follow Alinsky.
In response to Roy:
Couple of things: I really admire you and Roger’s patience and control for not jumping up and slapping Cullen when in full flow around the face with a wet flounder and say “how’s that for rising sea-levels”?
More seriously: I’m not religious in anyway but there has been a movement by affluent liberal lefty westerners over the last fifty years to almost spit upon western religion yet keep very quiet or even promote Islam. If I’m correct Roy, Roger Houghton, a real trail blazer for AGW and of the UKMO and the IPCC; was and is a devout Christian . Maybe if you get the chance you could posit this to Whitehouse when you get the chance. Me? I’ve learned over the years that atheism and intelligence aren’t necessarily mutually inclusive.
All the best and well done.
@Janice Moore –
I share your hopes – but not necessarily your optimism. My real fear is that it may yet take a catastrophe on the order of WWII and the Jewish Holocaust to break the cycle – and even then, it will be centuries more before the world recovers. That is why I am so militant about putting a stop to these criminals, these genocidal maniacs, and why I am seeking decisive action against them by anyone in a position to defrock them and push them aside. If I don’t do that I would regard myself as complicit in the atrocities they are certain to commit. This is not a trivial issue – it is the most momentous threat to civilization and human well-being since the rise of socialism in all its ugly personae. If they are not stopped and are able to fully implement their agenda, these people’s actions could dwarf the 250 million murdered in the name of “social justice” and “reforming society” by Hitler, Stalin, Mao and their followers. Believers in “Gaea” have already made it clear that they will not hesitate to drastically reduce the human footprint – literally – on the planet, and that translates into BILLIONS dead.
@Roy Spencer – I enjoyed watching your testimony. You did a great job. Thank you!
Thanks, Dr. Spencer. A clear presentation of facts and present knowledge.
@Dale Rainwater. Spencer, where did the graph “c” come from you were asked about?
I saw three graphs comparing model output to observations.
a) models vs sat/ballons diverging
b) models vs surface/sat/ballons diverging
c) models vs what? close agreement
what is the source for c? c included supposedly included the most data.
Listening to Harry Reid’s idiocy – “winters are shorter”? First May snow ever in Little Rock, rain and temps in the 60s in the Sacramento Valley in California in June (normal is 90s and no rain), the coldest baseball opening day in history in Minneapolis (35 F), snow in the UK into May, snow in Queensland, snow in Christchurch and Wellington, New Zealand, all-time record northward extent of Antarctic sea ice etc., etc. One wonders what planet this ignorant lying squirming worm is living on – it sure ain’t Earth.
It doesn’t matter.
The president will do his damage and the congressional crooks will steal the tax money from us some how.
They lie and steal as bad a Gleick.
Not even good thieves.
At least stop wasting the money. Do something useful.
I just don’t like them pissing on my boots and trying to make me believe it’s raining.
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Dunno why that pasted like that. It was cut from Dr Heidi Cullen’s opening remarks.
She said that greenhouse gases warm the planet by absorbing the sun’s energy and preventing heat from escaping back into space.
She’s a scientist you know; even teaches at Princeton University.
So Dr Cullen, space (around the earth) basically contains nothing; no molecules crashing into each other to speak of.
So how; pray tell, in the absence of any GHGs exactly how ANY “HEAT” would escape to space. the earth loses essentially NO “heat” to space. The excess thermal energy in the atmosphere, has to be converted from “heat” into electro-magnetic radiation, before it can escape to space.
Also, Dr Cullen, when atmospheric GHGs “absorb the sun’s energy”, that process prevents that sun’s energy from reaching the earth surface, and in particular the earth’s oceans, where it can propagate to great depths before being absorbed and converted (totally) into “heat” energy which warms those ocean depths. so your process cools the earth; it does not heat it.
Just for once, when these idjits say something like: “Climate change is happening right now”, why cannot anyone on ‘our side’ simply step up and say: “Yes, it was cold in the 1960’s to 1970’s, it was cold during the Little Ice Age, and it was really friggin cold during the last glaciation, but now it warmer. What should it be, still cold? You really want it to stay cold?”.
Is that so hard? Just call them climate change deniers because that is exactly what they are. These are climate kooks, crooks and scoundrels, all of them.
@Onlooker –
You can get the written testimony via the links in the list of witnesses above. Prepare to laugh, cry or vomit or all three.
@Lawrence13 London –
I am also a religious nonbeliever, but at the same time I am supportive of people’s right to believe as they choose – my only condition is that they respect my right to my beliefs in return. Also, while as a matter of being honest with myself, I must call ’em as I see ’em, which precludes for me the idea of a supreme being, I hope that I am open minded enough to accept and not be offended by differences of viewpoint. And I would add this: if people genuinely derive comfort and reassurance from their religion, who am I to question that, who am I to take that from them? I do not want to do that, feel no urge or impulse to do that. If people are to get along and there is to be civility in relationships, one must be prepared to accept differences of viewpoint, even with those to whom one is closest. We must agree to disagree.
The AGW crowd is, of course, the exact opposite: absolute, unquestioning belief in dogma is their meme, and you disagree with them at your peril.
@Mike Abbott. July 18, 2013 at 1:11 pm
Thanks for the link and start time!
The video became unresponsive as Roger Peilke started talking. I was looking forward to hearing him and others speak including Spencer. Up to that point, I think that the average person would believe (from the testimony of the left) that there is a big problem. The lies, damn lies… and the repeated statement that the heat is hiding in the deep oceans (where no one can find it) probably rings as valid for the average person. The problem is that the smart people only appeal to people who are smart enough to understand the truth.
I hope that I am able to see the rest of this. But I had a very bad feeling from watching this.
Nice job Roy,,,Roger and everyone involved….facts are hard to dispute.
Learn and communicate such folks.
What other options are there?