Guest essay by Abzats.
The most exciting period in science was, arguably, 1895-1945. It was marked by discoveries that changed the foundations of modern science: X-rays, quantum mechanics, superconductivity, relativity theory and nuclear energy. Then, compare this with the next 50 years in science. Incomparable. Nothing of that scale or impact. Yes, technology has advanced, but fundamental science – has come to a crawl. Have you ever wondered why? What changed as the 20th century grew older? Among other things, research budgets and the number of PhDs increased exponentially. This cannot be bad.
Well, it can. All depends on the rules of the game. And they have changed. The change went largely unnoticed by the general public. In this article I will try to bring everyone up to speed. I will explain to non-scientists the “business model” of modern science. People may want to know. After all, scientists are burning public money, billions a year. And, I am quite sure, those who get my message will react with “you cannot be serious!” And leaders of organized crime will be pulling their hair out in despair: “why did not we think of this first?”
Single most important element of the modern science machinery is the peer review process. It was introduced a long time ago, but it took over the scientific community at about mid 20th century. Why is it important? Every scientist must publish his or her work. If you do not publish, you will not advance your career. This works the same way as it does, say, for a businessman – if you cannot close a single deal, you are finished. Most journals have adopted peer review policies. Peer review process is also standard for research grants competitions. It is also the foundation of the tenure and promotion process at universities.
Well then, what is it exactly? To save time, let me explain peer review of papers submitted for publication in scientific journals. Once a journal receives a manuscript the journal sends it to 2-3 reviewers, who are experts in the field. Each reviewer writes a report that includes a recommendation on whether or not the manuscript should be published and advice to the author on how the manuscript can be improved. So far so good. Nothing seems wrong. This should work wonderfully. Well, in theory only. In reality it does not. In reality it is more of a disaster.
Let me explain. All the reviewers are anonymous. That is, they know your name but you do not know theirs. This is the first red flag: unless you plan to do something really bad, why do you insists being anonymous? The second red flag is that none of them gets paid. Those who believe in Santa Claus will say, well, they are just nice people volunteering their time to help advance science. Those who work for a living will smell a rat. I can give you one reason: being a reviewer gives you power over other people. Some just enjoy it, others use it to advance their own agenda. Such as approve manuscripts that praise reviewer’s own research and reject those that criticize it.
The power reviewers have is enormous. Put yourself in author’s shoes. You worked hard for six months on a manuscript. Your work is brilliant, if you publish it, not only will you advance your career, it will make you a leader in the field. Then, the manuscript goes to a reviewer who just happens to be having a bad day. He browses through the manuscript for 20-30 minutes, does not like the name of the author (never heard of him, “wrong” ethnicity, or … whatever), and rejects the paper. Can you appeal? No. You can write an angry letter, but you cannot call your attorney. Because nobody is breaking the law. because there isn’t any.
They can ruin your career and drive research, often funded by the public, to a dead end, and they are not accountable to anyone. In such a system, for most scientists the best, or should I say the only, way to advance their careers is by kissing up to those in higher positions: in person, in manuscripts, and in the whole research strategy. This has been going on for decades. As a result of this “natural selection”, the scientific community has been consumed by cronyism. Parts of it are rotten to the core.
Let me give you one example. Last year I attended a Radiation Research Society meeting. It was held in Maui, Hawaii. Why? Obviously it is a great spot for a vacation. You will not find any major research centers in the neighborhood. If you are still thinking of defending this choice, get this – the conference was held at the Grand Wailea Resort. The thing about this place is that luxury here is obscene. It is a kind of place a bum would go to after winning a lottery. And, guess what, I believe I have seen a few. Never before had I seen an invited speaker at a major conference making bodily function jokes. Here I had seen more than one, including a recipient of a lifetime achievement award spelling a word for body waste and thinking it was funny. Do not get me wrong, I am not judging here. But, if he jokes at a preschooler level, would you trust him to be a reviewer of your work? Do I need to mention who paid for the event? Or, that it took place during the worst economic crisis in decades?
A couple of other problems. Reviewers have no real motivation to work fast. Here is what you would see when checking status of your manuscript on a journal’s web site: manuscript to referee, unable to report – sent to another referee, and so on, several times, for weeks and months. Nonsense. With all the technology available, a manuscript can be published within hours. But, no, it has to sit for weeks on somebody’s desk. Somebody who just does not care enough. Or, worse, someone who is interested in delaying the process. The reviewer may be working on exactly the same problem and wants his paper published first.
Another problem that extremely frustrates me as an author are suggestions reviewers make on how I should improve my manuscript. Originally, may be, it was a good idea – your peers offering you advice that will help you improve your work. But it all has gone very wrong. These days these are not suggestions or advice – these are demands. You change your manuscript exactly as you are told, or it will be rejected. I am a well established scientist, why do I have to take advice from someone who would not even reveal his identity or credentials? And, finally, this system is perfect for stealing ideas. After you submit your manuscript you have no control of who will access it. All you can hope for is human decency, and it is not always there.
This brings us to the root of the problem. People, including scientists, are flawed. Few will miss a chance to stab competition in the back and abuse whatever little power they may have. I am not the first to criticize the peer review process. But I am not. Criticizing implies it can be fixed. It cannot. It was a bad idea all along. Then, what can be done? There is no quick and easy solution.
But I know where to start – ban peer review. And I know this can be done, this nonsense can be dealt with. This is not brain surgery, this is all about leveling the playing field, making rules for fair and open competition. These problems have been solved in all other spheres. Only scientists for whatever bizarre reasons received a special treatment and the right to live in lawlessness. Which is so wrong, I cannot find words to describe. Science is one most important sphere of human activity.
Who will find cure from cancer? Who will prevent the planet from becoming uninhabitable? Scientists. Not those from the beaches of Grand Wailea. Real ones. I hope we can still find some and reverse, before it’s too late, the depletion of brains. Let’s get started. Ban peer review!
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The answer might be to use something like the Opensource model that developed things like Linux and the Arduino. Everything in the open. Stupidity or Heresy (the latter might be rational with disagreement on the premises) will appear, and you can always “fork” the publication.
I noticed a complaint about “creationists flooding the scientific journals”. Do you mean writing nonsensical papers, or legitimate criticism of an interpretation, not much different than a skeptic criticizing a global warming model (which a wamer will not do)?
Let all discussion occur in the open, even if it is sharp – either you can show your point from reason, or have to resort to ad hominem, emotion, authority, or whatever else.
Put it differently (remembering the movie Expelled), would you rather have someone who knows how to argue his point very effectively, but you disagree on one of the unprovable premises, or some total idiot sycophant that can just spout talking points, but agrees with your views? Which is better for science? I prefer rational heretic (the jester-fool in the king’s court) to the stupid sycophant. I even hate the stupid sycophants that agree with me worse since it makes me appear to be stupid and foolish.
“Peer Review” is a star chamber of the incumbent inquisitors looking for heretics. Perhaps it was not intended to be that way, nor have Journals be the critical factor in careers, but that is the current system and it is broken.
I find it amazing this WUWT allows this fundamentally flawed essay on its sight. This entire essay is what I like to call, “young people have no respect these days”. Right from the first sentence “1895-1945” was the “most exciting period,” Really? No. What about the human genome project, dark energy, dark matter, cellular biology and how cells die, exoplanets, lasers, cloning, and I could go on. There is no evidence that science has slowed down, it’s just moved to different areas, specifically the biological sciences and less astrophysics. There is no evidence science has slowed down at all.
Have we slowed down in “fundamental” sciences well yes, because fundamental sciences are just that fundamental. The fundamental sciences like Atomic Theory, Chemical Theory, and micro biology all happened long before the early twentieth century, and people like Einstein and Bohr built off Faraday and Maxwell before them, just as Hawking built off his predecessors in the 1980’s and 90’s. Science is science it moves along, it is your perspective that give you the impression you have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_scientific_discoveries
The essay then goes on to explain how peer review process has slowed everything down, and yes it has slowed everything down that was the point. After the disasters of eugenics and Piltdown man, aether space the scientific community felt more scientific rigor was necessary, and justifiably so. Piltdown man went on for 40 years, and it was easily disprovable, science even without peer review, is slow.
The peer review process is fundamentally sound but it can be exploited when the pool of reviewers is too small, despite the anonymity of the reviewers, they still know each other. Very young sciences have this problem and pseudo sciences as well. Where things cannot be independently and conclusively tested are more difficult to overturn, because of the whole reliance on statistics and unrepeatable science.
The article goes on to talk about volunteerism and the “Santa Claus” notion that “they are just nice people volunteering their time to help advance science.” This is exceptionally cynical and completely false, I could site thousands of examples of volunteers helping in their respective fields, people do it on a daily basis, do some people have an agenda yes, can it be politicized sure, but volunteerism works great and has for thousands of years. I would cite examples but I wouldn’t even know where to start.
As for the review process, all authors feel their paper is “brilliant” the problem is most of them are not, and there is limited room in the journal, it’s this exclusivity that gives the paper its reputation, its ability to filter the non-science. You are all for throwing out the peer review system, but you give no alternative to this process, you have 100 papers, you can only publish 5, how do you decide? Everyone one knows what everyone is writing about generally you can tell whose paper is whose. Even if the papers are submitted anonymous, you can’t get perfect objectivity, how do you decide? Are you going to choose the reviewers(Bias)? Voting system? Who gets to vote(yet more bias)? In a world of limited resources, who gets in the journal? You can’t publish it all.
Or do we go Wikipedia route, any nut bar living in his basement can now become a reviewer, it was suppose to be unbiased in the end it quickly became extremely biased and politicized.
Paid editors? Who hires them? What is their expertise? What are their biases? Journal boards have lazy friends too, bringing money into the situation only brings in more politics not less.
“Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried.” – Churchill
Peer review is like democracy, it’s bad but everything else we tried is worse and with limited resources someone has to decide, who should it be?
donaitkin says:
June 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
Re: Watson & Crick
CodeTech says:
June 25, 2013 at 2:45 am
Re: Big Bang Theory
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The TV show writers failed to note that naming & confirmation of the Big Bang Theory itself originated in the post-1930s period during which Leonard said nothing had happened in physics.
In addition to the scientific advances Abzats mentions from 1895-1945, there were antibiotics (arguably applied science), the Modern Synthesis of Darwin & Mendel, Hubble’s discovery of universal expansion & Pauling’s covalent bonds, among others.
But from the just-past 50-year (1945-95) period of pal review & corrupted science which he IMO rightly decries, we had not only the aforementioned structure of DNA (building of course on prior work), leading to molecular biology & genetics (including recombinant DNA), & Big Bang Theory, but semiconducting materials (again arguably applied science), plate tectonics (based upon the discovery of sea-floor spreading, explaining Wegener’s hypothesis from the prior period), the acceptance of catastrophism in geology (pioneered by Bretz in the earlier period) & String (now M) Theory (for good & ill), again among others (such as discovery of pulsar neutron stars).
In the present 1995-2045 period we’ve so far discovered that the expansion of the universe appears to be speeding up.
IMO, most other 50-year periods since 1545 vie with Abzats’ arguably most exciting early 20th century however (except 1695-1745), but perhaps none more so than 1845-95 (Snow, Darwin, Pasteur, Lister, Mendel, Koch, Mendeleev, Maunder, Maxwell, Kelvin). Tesla straddles the periods, but, like Lister, is also arguably a technologist rather than pure scientist.
It’s still possible since 1945 despite life in the belly of the Big Science beast for scientists working on their own without “funding” to make major contributions, if not on the scale of country gentlemen like Darwin or rude mechanics like Faraday.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Marshall
But it may be harder than ever now to overturn false orthodoxies, with the awesome power of the state-media complex defending itself. At least the authorities haven’t yet brought back burning at the stake, much as they might like to.
You all have a computer sitting in front of you. Imagine you could somehow take it back in time and show it to the very best scientists you could find from the first half of the 20th century.
You could not even explain what it was for, let alone how it worked.
That alone should alone should be sufficient to put to rest the idea that science has stagnated.
As for improvements to the peer review process, double-blind reviewing could be tried and might be a slight improvement, but it would not have a major effect for the simple reason that it is easy to guess who the authors of a paper are – I have never seen a paper where the authors did not refer to their own, previous, work!
Not all peer review is anonymous. I have been involved multiple times (reviewer and reviewed) where it was not anonymous. The most serious problem with peer review has already been identified many times at WUWT: “pal-review.” Often times the authors know exactly who their reviewers are – their core group of like-minded people.
I agree with you that many conferences are planned for desirable vacation spots and many (most?) attendees use them as vacations. It is a non-sequitor to imply that picking a cushy vacation resort for a conference means that the research presented there must be flawed by improper peer review.
I find these vacation spots to be hypocritical when chosen by environmental groups or supposedly altruistic groups for their conferences. Vast amounts of resources could be saved by simply putting the presentations online and letting questions and answers be handled online.
For those who are interested, the Radiation Research Society meeting at the Grand Wailea Resort Hotel in Maui Hawaii that Abzats referred to was in 2010, not “last year”. Here is the program…
http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.radres.org/resource/collection/114D1634-D152-49CB-BDF5-270084CD30F4/RRS_2010_Program.pdf
Here is the list of abstracts…
http://c.ymcdn.com/sites/www.radres.org/resource/collection/114D1634-D152-49CB-BDF5-270084CD30F4/RRS_2010_Abstract.pdf
Mr. Abzats, I found your article to be a little over-the-top. If you are concerned about anonymity, please use your real name. I doubt very seriously that it is “Abzats.”
Yes, technology has advanced and fundamental breakthroughs have declined.
But this may be just a natural cycle in knowledge accumulation.
However, the problems of cronyism and established schools of thought dominating debate are easily observed so let’s deal with that.
The root of the problems are that funding and security are given to researchers for publishing papers – regardless of the paper’s value. Who can tell the value of a paper?
But if funding was disproportionately given for forcing the withdrawal of papers then the pruning process would occur. And people would still propose new ideas because forcing withdrawal is always easier when you have a reputation of your own.
Also journals that refused to allow easy withdrawal would wither on the vine as attention would go where the easy pickings come from.
MattN says: “…And paying reviewers is a bad idea, simply because of the abuse it could lead to (Big Corp. paying reviewers for favorable reviews, etc.)
What we have now is Big Science paying reviewers with favors, etc.
DirkH says:
June 25, 2013 at 1:19 am
phlogiston says:
June 25, 2013 at 1:04 am
“- Look also at the model of a journal like Nature which has full time salaried reviewers. These professional reviewers are not so subject to conflicts of interest like finding a competitor’s paper in front of them for review.”
Nature, the journal, is owned by Germans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georg_von_Holtzbrinck_Publishing_Group
Maybe you want a green romanticist ideology to filter your science, maybe not.
I guess you’re right, salaried editors of a prestigious journal are kind of public figures and come under political pressure regarding AGW etc, so compared to peer review it may be out of the frying pan into the fire as regards impartiality, certainly in connection with climate.
BTW the company I work for has also been bought be German scientific equipment manufacturer so I guess I’ve also become an honorary German 🙂
Peer-Reviews can readily be published in the online versions of the journal. While papers are usually written in a rather strict style [evolved over time], reviews tends to be a lot less structured and more ad-hoc. This opens the questions if the reviews should also be copy-edited [as the papers] or left as ‘raw’ as they come. Here are some examples from my own work:
http://www.leif.org/research/swsc130003.pdf [review at bottom of file]
http://www.leif.org/research/ApJ88587.pdf review here: http://www.leif.org/research/Responses%20to%20Reviewer%20for%20ApJ88587.pdf
http://www.leif.org/research/Semiannual-Comment.pdf review here: http://www.leif.org/research/Review-History-2011GL048616.pdf
http://www.leif.org/research/Waldmeier.pdf review here: http://www.leif.org/research/Review-History-2010GL045307.pdf
http://www.leif.org/research/2009JA015069.pdf review here: http://www.leif.org/research/IDV09-Review-History.pdf
http://www.leif.org/research/McCracken%20JGR%202.pdf review here: http://www.leif.org/research/McCracken%20Reply.pdf
Was it useful to have the reviews?
The matter is more complex than presented. During many years as professional scientist, I found bias and incompetence in reviewing. (Conversely, sometimes reviewers miss gross errors, which are then published) The author has, however, a chance to fight back and prove error or bias in the review. I had to struggle most for the manuscripts I tought my best. One manuscript went through four pairs of reviewers; in the end, the Editor decided in my favor. Also, there are several journals in each field. Once, an editor rejected a manuscript judged publishable by both reviewers. I succeeded with the competition.
The problem is, however, the evaluation of research proposals. Research money.is given as grants, from government agencies and private foundations. At some time, private foundations began judging proposals first by ideology. The agencies get the proposals reviewed. There is no appeal, one can prove bias or idiocy in a review, it still stands. In adddition, affirmative action is applied (women and recognized minorities first), by design. I could propose a much better approach, but (1) this is not the place and (2) those who set up the process wouldn’t care to look at alternatives.
One experience I had with bad peer review. The reviewers’ comments
indicated they had not really read the paper–and one was incompetent,
as he stated that “The final result is wrong, as energy does not scale
correctly as an intensive property.” Energy is EXTENSIVE, not INTENSIVE.
Another reviewer made a throwaway comment about how this paper
neglected “…the easiest method of finding quantum corrections…”
which had nothing to do with the subject of the paper!
On the other hand, my very first paper drew a future Nobel Prize winner
for Physics as reviewer, who really strengthened (and in one part, tactfully
corrected!) the paper.
My experiences suggest that it’s a crap-shoot as to whether you will get
an involved, dedicated reviewer or someone who will not provide any benefit
at all, and may even be obstructive.
@DirkH
You’re preaching to the choir on all those points of science. But this article was still a rant. There are many possible rants against peer review. I have my own favorites. But a plan to reform/replace peer review would involve creating new metrics for defining success and failure, who lives as a scientist and who dies as a non-scientist. It would involve some way to know whether the plan succeeded or failed. This article was a rant, not a plan. This website is usually better than this, and so I objected.
@RogerKnights: review articles are extracted from papers that had testable hypotheses. They are more like a history. This article was nothing like a history of criticisms of peer review. It was a personal opinion with no ability to conceive that it might be wrong or misguided. For a something like a history of criticisms of peer review and science in general, read “Machiavelli’s Laboratory” by Berman. It’s online, free, and much better than this Abzats piece.
Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these?
for thou dost not enquire wisely concerning this.
Ecclesiastes 7: 10.
Eric Worrall says:
June 25, 2013 at 12:30 am
I don’t think its that simple. If there is no peer review, how can you prevent creationists and people with a perverse agenda, such as promoters of fake medical treatments, from flooding credible journals with junk science? I agree the current system is broken, but I don’t see how having no system is a viable replacement.
Eric: SIMPLE! Editors of Journals themselves can make that decision. By the way, why the “knee jerk” reaction on “creationists”? A slight bit of intellectual bigotry here? I used to receive a variety of “Journals” in my past engineering life..nothing having to do with the origin of life, or “creationism” would have ever appeared in such journals. Come to think of it, the writings on those matters are NOT SCIENCE to begin with, but rather SPECULATION. As an engineer, I tend towards REAL SCIENCE (i.e., experiement, repeat, confirm, move on…) So much else is SPECULATION disquised as “science”.
Long time lurker, first time poster.
I have to say this is probably one of the least reasonable articles I have come across on WUWT in my time reading here. Many articles I cannot accurately comment on but this one needs further comment.
Yes, peer review is flawed. As many have indicated, until a better system is found, then this is the best currently available. That said, it’s more often the body performing the review that is more flawed than is the process. If the community is sufficiently small, as perhaps climate science is, then group-think can take over what is a reasonable process and bias it substantially. This can be done in any number of ways, some contrived, some not. Ultimately it does poison the process and climate science is not the only field to have this happen, but this is at times simply human nature.
As to the author’s red flags I think I disagree with all of them.
Anonymity is a good thing as most fields are competitive. A good editor, that selects reviewers, should have the common sense to select reviewers that are not directly in competition with the author(s) of the paper under review. This may not always be possible as the expertise is limited sometimes in very highly specialized areas. Many reviewers in my field will actually give up their anonymity as they are seeking clarification and will contact the lead author. Not all will do this, but many will. If they choose to remain anonymous I find it hard to fault that given many authors can be equally as petty as is ascribed to the reviewers.
As for getting paid or not, I can more easily see bias creeping in when someone is getting paid, especially if we are to go with the meme that journals like Science or Nature are readily biased towards certain viewpoints within specific fields. Providing payment will lessen this bias? Most of the journal reviewers I know of do it out of a sense of service to their respective academic societies – the motive is altruistic in many cases. Many of the younger reviewers do it as a way to build up their curriculum vitae – this holds weight with their academic institution (a service component is written into many teaching and research positions); likely not the same weight as publishing, but when you are starting out you’ve presumably published all of the work you can from graduate school so there is a lag while you re-establish at a new position.
I would agree that reviewers do indeed have power and some will abuse it. However going on the assumption that your paper is above reproach of a reviewer, biased or not, is leaning fairly far into the reaches of arrogance. Familiarity, as happens when one researches something intensely and subsequently publishes something leaves one open to glaring oversight at times. One also may not be well versed enough in statistical analysis to select the appropriate analysis for the methods utilized. My graduate supervisor always drilled into our heads that the type of analysis must be determined ahead of time, not trying to squeeze some data into a desired or familiar analysis after the fact. Linear regression isn’t always the appropriate choice no matter how familiar you claim to be with it.
When a publisher rejects your submitted paper it’s more often than not because the paper is not sufficiently strong or adds nothing new to the discourse. Yes, of course there are times that the editor’s biases are the only sufficient reason for no publication but this kills neither your publication nor your career. Take the advice of the reviewers, rework the paper as suggested (assume some level of humility) and if you can’t re-submit to the original journal, find another journal. Does anyone seriously believe that if Nature doesn’t publish your paper you can’t submit it to another journal? I suppose someone could work in a field so narrow that there is only a single journal to publish in but I cannot think of that field. Nature and Science are about prestige (ego?) in many cases. There are many other ‘lesser’ journals that are perfectly suitable as an avenue to publish ones work.
As far as the cronyism example, it’s fairly clear the author has never actually participated in organizing a scientific meeting of any size. While I wouldn’t for a second debate the luxury of the Grand Wailea (I stay up the road in Kihei when fortunate enough to visit Maui), many large hotels in ‘luxurious’ locations often offer quite spectacular deals in terms of hotel room costs, meeting room space and other amenities, typically in low or shoulder seasons simply because the space would otherwise sit empty. The rates are often much less expensive for the meeting organizers than they would be in more boring locales. The organization I work with routinely meets in San Diego or sometimes other ‘nice’ locations. The reasons aren’t for luxury or warmth, it’s simply because of the size of the organization at times, coupled with maintaining a reasonably low cost for attendees (registration, airfare and accommodations are the big three). Certain places simply won’t book meetings under certain sizes – Minneapolis rarely accommodates meeting groups under 3000 people simply because they can and do get filled up by larger groups which provide a far better return for the city than smaller groups. There are many, many reasons for selecting a location for a meeting. That Grand Wailea meeting was probably cheaper in September than it was to go to Minneapolis in June or December. So really, given ‘we know’ who was paying for it, maybe they made the right choice. I’ve been to meetings in “exciting places” (Turkey) and “boring” places (Bloomington, IL). The locale is irrelevant because I tend to attend the sessions rather than indulge in the opulence. The Grand Wailea might be a whole lot nicer than the Travelodge but I’m there for the content, not the venue. My spouse on the other hand… and that too is a factor in selecting locations. Maybe it shouldn’t matter but it is considered.
As to the lifetime achievement award winner making jokes I’d prefer to judge their ability to review a paper on their accomplishments. That they can make a joke means I want to have a beer with them.
I will agree that people are the root of the problem, of that there is no question. That the author thinks there are few people that will miss a chance to stab another in the back is selling scientists as a group fairly short. It may in fact be more of a comment on the author than on those in the community.
I think the premise is a nice one in that there are problems with peer review but banning it? Silly. Constantly belittling it as a system provides no useful benefit and is frankly one of the memes I find most frustrating. The system isn’t the problem, it’s the people in the system. Sometimes you get sufficient bodies in a system that the system or organization itself becomes corrupted, as many of us presume to be the case with the climate community. Certainly the climate community provides many examples over time that there are serious issues within.
Further the problem has become science by press conference and a willing and culpable media. The old adage is that you only need to repeat something three times for someone to retain and believe that information. In our era of constant media bombardment via MSM, Twitter, Blogs, Instagram, etc. even the most absurd of premises becomes the TRUTH fairly quickly. Perhaps the greatest problem is that funding agencies seem to have lost a number of things: intestinal fortitude required to defend funding decisions – if it’s not hot, trendy, a crisis or potentially profitable, we won’t fund it. The crisis aspect may well be the most important driving force of the funding equation. If the sky is falling the money will follow. Now where have we seen that before?
Sorry for the lengthy rant but in general I love WUWT but this detracts from the impact I’m afraid. Scientists know of the flaws in the peer review process but until you have a better system, it’s what we got. Work within it to improve it. Where it is flawed, provide proof to show it is flawed (there’s a quote above from ClimateGate that readily shows it).
There is peer review, and then there is climate peer review.
Remember Mann’s quote: “Kevin and I will keep them out somehow — even if we have to redefine what the peer review literature is” ?
Climate peer review has been corrupted by a relatively small clique of journals, referees and corrupt scientists, who work together to keep the grant money flowing. They cannot abide other scientists telling the truth: that there is nothing either unusual or unprecedented happening with the climate. Thus, they promote climate alarmism, and the baseless demonization of “carbon”.
Climate peer review has been thoroughly corrupted. For those who might question that fact, read A.W. Montford’s The Hockey Stick Illusion. Montford shows how Mann and others have gamed the climate peer review system: journals and referees are threatened — and alarmist scientists have even succeeded in getting scientists fired for simply expressing scientific opinions that do not agree with the curent alarmist narrative.
Climate peer review is the problem, not peer review in general.
Well, one could have instead eponymous reviewers, a type of special editors. This would remove part of the problem of cronyism because it would become evident. After all when a scientist goes through the education loop he knows his/her professors. Submitting papers is like taking an exam in a sense.
jimmi_the_dalek says:
Actually, I could easily explain how it works, and assuming I’m talking with a group of intelligent scientists I’m pretty sure within 5 minutes I could have them up to speed on at least the concepts, if not the details required for them to recreate the technology.
As for what it’s for, who couldn’t understand the concept of arguing with strangers and looking at pictures of cats?
Computer science is more about incremental improvements than groundbreaking science, and doesn’t really apply. Each person and project increases knowledge, and computer science doesn’t require fantastic theoretical proofs – either it works or it doesn’t.
I personally don’t think the concept of peer review is irredeemably broken, but I do believe there needs to be better controls. Big science is suffering from two major issues: huge money, and huge egos. Both tend to corrupt almost everything they contact.
donaitkin says:
June 25, 2013 at 12:34 am
I’m not sure that Crick and Watson, and those who came after them in molecular biology, would agree that nothing occurred after 1945!
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Agree, and the human genome is quite a wonder. So is the transistor, etc., etc.
Sometimes it is best to look beyond your own discipline before saying all progress has stopped.
Exactly.
I am currently reading a book by Lee Smolin called The Trouble With Physics: The Rise of String Theory, The Fall of a Science, and What Comes. In it Smolin writes:
Even when science was “the concern of mostly wealthy amateurs,” physics progressed more than it has in my entire working career (now ended). It makes me glad I didn’t go into that field – because it appears my career would have done nothing to have furthered science. I may have published all sorts of papers. I might have gotten caught up in string theory or quantum physics – but to what end?
Smolin goes on…
So it is not just the science bashers who see this. Even the insiders do.
I recommend the book, but it is a heavy slog through most of it. But it is very informative about the state of the science.
Steve Garcia
Oops! Add “Next” to the title of Smolin’s book.
Peer review has to exist to maintain some standards, but must be changed especially for any science that is controversial. Any controversial topics needs to be divided in two peer review groups, for and against. They both decide if it passes both alternative views, but if one passes it gets through. The paper only fails if both peer review groups reject it.
I personally think that the problem Abzats is describing has a more fundamental problem and that is treating scientists as some sort of “Rock Gods” especially by the media. When you watch the news, how many times do you hear the phrase, “Scientists say….”
The first thing we need to do is to humanize scientists – they are not Gods of any description. Lets face it if the world was depopulated and you were left with a scientist and a farmer who are on opposite sides of the planet, who has the best chances of survival? Who will you rely on to provide you with food?. I think that the world status of scientists is way too high. With the status of scientists set so high now you have the opportunity for corruption with peer review being one of the forms.
Just as an example, lets go back to Newton. Could you imagine the chuckles if a newspaper in 1687 had come out with the headlines “Scientists discover laws of motion” followed by, “It is thought that these laws could allow men to fly to the moon”. I don’t think so.
Big Don says:
June 25, 2013 at 7:36 am
The alternative to peer review is independent confirmation / replication of results. There is no reason why any hypotheses should be squelched from publication….
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Correct. If I recall correctly ~90 to 95% of the peer -reviewed papers are crap anyway and are disproved 5 to 10 years down the road.
How many papers have we seen here at WUWT that are less than worthless?
Do not forget Scott Armstrong’s recommendation to young scientists:
That was in 1982, I doubt that things have improved in the last twenty years.
The claim that not much basic science has been developed since 1945 is bogus. We have made great strides in earth science, Astronomy/Astrophysics, cosmology, elementary particles and biology. Dark matter, plate tectonics, acceleration of the expansion of the universe, string theory, the Higgs boson, and most exciting of all DNA. In addiition increases in computer power are making simulation of complex systems possible. These systems could include the earth’s atmosphere and the human brain.