Obama's climate plan 'absolutely crazy'

jai mitchell says:
June 20, 2013 at 12:44 pm
“While this is an extreme report, it outlines the reality that is the body of evidence and projections of what will be happening in the world over the next century if we don’t change the course of our direction. ”
It’s funny that the warmist alarmist Met Office predicted hot summers and a mediterranean climate for the UK; the alarmist warmist GBN predicts an ice age for the UK; and you still believe a word alarmist warmists say.
Quit the glue.

Jai…Thanks to CO2 the planet is thriving as crop lands are yielding more per acre than anytime in our history. I might add with less water and fertilizer. And if the temperature goes up a degree or so the planet will welcome it with open arms. As George Carlin stated so eloquently in his “Save the Planet” piece the planet is fine it`s the people that is out of whack. I presume he meant you Jai.

jai mitchell
…. Green energy doesn’t kill jobs, just ask Texas. Green energy creates jobs, and lots of them. What green energy DOES do is help to prevent the loss of life that is detailed in this report.
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So I asked Texas.

ERCOT: EPA Rule Threatens to Turn Out the Lights in Texas
Texas’ Electric Reliability Coalition of Texas — ERCOT — is firing up the warning flare that if the EPA’s new cross-state rules go into effect on January 1, 2012, parts of Texas may well go dark.
This is one of those cases where we believe it is our role to voice our concern that Texas could face a shortage of generation necessary to keep the lights on in Texas within a few years, if the EPA’s Cross-State Rule is implemented as written.
ERCOT’s May11 report to the Public Utility Commission on the impact of the proposed environmental regulations did not address the impact of SO2 restrictions on coal plants in ERCOT because these restrictions on Texas were not included as part of the EPA’s earlier rule proposal. We have not had time to fully analyze the entire 1,323-page Cross-State Rule released July 7 or to communicate with the generation owners regarding what their intentions will be. However, initial implications are that the SO2 requirements for Texas added at the last stage of the rule development will have a significant impact on coal generation, which provided 40 percent of the electricity consumed in ERCOT in 2010….

But that’s OK because ERCOT has a PLAN.

Energy InSight FAQs
….Rolling outages are systematic, temporary interruptions of electrical service. They are the last step in a progressive series of emergency procedures that ERCOT follows when it detects that there is a shortage of power generation within the Texas electric grid. ERCOT will direct electric transmission and distribution utilities, such as CenterPoint Energy, to begin controlled, rolling outages to bring the supply and demand for electricity back into balance.They generally last 15-45 minutes before being rotated to a different neighborhood to spread the effect of the outage among consumers, which would be the case whether outages are coordinated at the circuit level or individual meter level. Without this safety valve, power generating units could overload and begin shutting down and risk causing a domino effect of a statewide, lengthy outage. With smart meters, CenterPoint Energy is proposing to add a process prior to shutting down whole circuits to conduct a mass turn off of individual meters with 200 amps or less (i.e. residential and small commercial consumers) for 15 or 30 minutes, rotating consumers impacted during that outage as well as possible future outages.
There are several benefits to consumers of this proposed process. By isolating non-critical service accounts (“critical” accounts include hospitals, police stations, water treatment facilities etc.) and spreading “load shed” to a wider distribution, critical accounts that happen to share the same circuit with non-critical accounts will be less affected in the event of an emergency. Curtailment of other important public safety devices and services such as traffic signals, police and fire stations, and water pumps and sewer lifts may also be avoided.

As problems with an unstable grid due to Solar/wind becomes worst expect Smart Meters to become mandatory so CORPORATIONS can keep running.

Don’t want smart meter? Power shut off
The rollout of smart electric meters across the country has run into a few snags: one woman doesn’t want one, and ended up in the dark as a result.
You might not think that would be an issue. But it is, because Duke Energy is now beginning to disconnect any homeowner who refuses a new electric meter.
Other electric companies are not pulling the plug…yet…..

As Obama Promised: Energy Prices to Soon Skyrocket

Obama’s war on coal hits your electric bill
The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt. In the mid-Atlantic area covering New Jersey, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and DC the new price is $167 per megawatt. For the northern Ohio territory served by FirstEnergy, the price is a shocking $357 per megawatt…. These are not computer models or projections or estimates. These are the actual prices that electric distributors have agreed to pay for new capacity. The costs will be passed on to consumers at the retail level.…

So the cost of energy in the USA will sky rocket. In the UK ‘Fuel Poverty’ is killing 65 people per day in the winter. Article: Fuel poverty deaths three times higher than government estimates and science paper: Fuel poverty and human health A review of recent evidence
The EPA and Department of Energy drastically underestimated the effects of the new EPA rulings. Many more plants are closing than anticipated. This means electricity prices will sky rocket and the electric grid could become unstable New Regulations to Take 34 GW of Electricity Generation Offline and the Plant Closing Announcements Keep Coming… According to EPA, …. these regulations will only shutter 9.5 GW of electricity generation capacity. OOPS, I guess the government miscalculated.
So what about the “Green Energy” companies funded with tax payer dollars that are supposed to replace these coal fired plants? They are going bankrupt at an alarming rate So far, [thats] 34 companies OOPS, I guess the government miscalculated.
What the politicians neglect to say is their plan for making this work is to install Smart Meters, an attractive opportunity for Investors This theoretically allows residential electricity to be turned off so the system can be balanced as wind and solar power surges and declines. Of course with renewables bankrupting, smart meters not installed and coal plants closing at three time the rate expected, this put a real big kink in that plan. OOPS, I guess the government miscalculated AGAIN so we are looking at rolling blackouts.

David L. says:
June 20, 2013 at 1:18 pm
“I thought his legacy was Obamacare.”
That will be repealed as well.

Gail Combs
This is what I was talking about (Re: texas jobs)
Houston Chronicle
http://www.chron.com/jobs/article/Wind-energy-drives-more-than-just-turbines-4355259.php
Wind energy drives more than just turbines
By Rebecca Maitland, jobs correspondent | March 14, 2013
“Ten years ago, there were less than 2,000 turbines, and today there are over 20,000. These are not your father’s turbines. These are efficient and are driving down the cost of electricity,” Guyette said.
The wind industry also is good for Texas, good for Houston.
“Wind farms are usually in rural, open land, and are private leases from land owners. We lease the land, and property owners receive annual lease payments, and property taxes also flow into these areas. Also, the land the turbines are on can continue to be used as they were prior to the turbines being installed. Another important point is because the parts for wind turbines are large and heavy, construction usually goes to local companies, so there is a ripple down affect which draws manufacturing to the area, which creates jobs in these areas,” Salerno said.
However, Houston also is a main hub for manufacturing, with more than 30 manufacturing companies involved in wind energy.
A study released by the Waco-based Perryman Group in May 2010 estimates the wind industry is responsible for nearly 10,000 manufacturing, headquarters, construction, and maintenance and support jobs in Texas annually. The American Wind Energy Association places Texas first among states in wind industry employment, which includes manufacturing, installation and maintenance jobs.
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10,000 NEW jobs in texas as well as a significant source of revenue for the farmers who have the turbines on their land.
I, for one, do not see a problem with that. do you?

It’s all about getting more control & more taxes.

And where Obama and the US go, we in Canada get dragged along.
I can only hope that reality sinks in before too much damage is done to our tightly linked economies.

George e Smith,
you said,
Tesla Motors, the darling of the green energy set, recently announced a profit. The only reason they made a profit, was because tax paying real workers paid a bundle for each of those 416 horsepower race cars, I heard the figure was $7500 for each Model S car sold. And they also made a profit selling “carbon credits” to other companies.
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well, If you want to take away tax credits for tesla then I suppose you think it is ok to take away tax credits for oil, gas and coal developers in the U.S. as well. . .
In the United States, credible estimates of annual fossil fuel subsidies range from $10 billion to $52 billion annually, while even efforts to remove small portions of those subsidies have been defeated in Congress, as shown in the graphic below.
http://priceofoil.org/fossil-fuel-subsidies/
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at least these tax credits are given to consumers to spark the economy and provide a real incentive for future economic growth and development instead of being passed to internationally based corporations that will simply shell their profits into offshore holding accounts.
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Tesla is building beautiful and effective cars, they are changing the face of this country. I just saw one for the first time last weekend. I have never seen a more attractive car, must be the carbon fiber hood.

klem says:
June 20, 2013 at 11:58 am
I’m glad Anthony posted that drivell from Jai Mitchell. It demonstrates that the eco zealots are still living in la la land….
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Klem and others. Jai Mitchell at least has come here and engaged with us. Hopefully he, and the others who are silent but reading the debate, will actually look at what is being posted and think about what has been said and pointed to.
There are several who have come here who were believers in CAGW or on the fence and learned a lot, me included.
So I am also glad Anthony does not run a blog that is just singing to the choir.