From the New York Daily News:
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The data doesn’t support him.
The temperature rise seems to have slowed in the past few years, here is NYC’s Central Park data:
Source: http://www.erh.noaa.gov/okx/climate/records/monthannualtemp.html
UPDATE: WeatherBell meteorologist Joe D’Aleo sends along this graph, showing population with temperature plotted together. This makes a strong case for UHI and waste heat effects.
Will the Sea level go up a foot by 2020? Doubtful.
| The Battery , NY | Station ID: 8518750 |
| Latitude: 40° 42.0′ N | Mean Range: 4.53 ft. |
| Longitude: 74° 0.8′ W | Diurnal Range: 5.06 ft. |
| Established: May 24 1920 | |
| NOAA Chart #: 12335 | |
| Time Meridian: 75 W |
Mean Sea Level Difference:
for 8518750 The Battery, NY
1983-2001 1960-1978 Difference:
5.86 ft.-5.65 ft. = 0.21 ft.
Source: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/station_info.shtml?stn=8518750+The+Battery+,+NY
Source: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/sltrends/sltrends_station.shtml?stnid=8518750
Based on current NOAA data, it will take over 100 years to gain a foot of sea level rise.
At 2.77mm per year, we can only hope to see 8 x 2.77mm = 22.16mm or 0.072 foot (0.872 inches) rise by 2020. That’s not even close to Mayor Bloomberg’s claims. Note I’m being generous and using 8 years since 2013 isn’t even half over yet.
And, it really is easy to get freaked out if you don’t pay attention to anything but hype:
Freaking out about NYC sea level rise is easy to do when you don’t pay attention to history
Love how they use a wonderfully sited thermometer above an asphalt parking lot to say “see what we have to look forward to?” I went through the last several years of official Central Park temperature records for June-August and can’t find anything close to 108F.
Nothing to do with climate or climate change w/the little guy, except as a way to phony up excuses to protect his investments.
Follow the money. Might be that Bloomy has financial stakes in real estate along the Jersey shore, Long Island, Manhattan, and perhaps in the construction companies who will build the NYC dikes.
Always better to use other people’s money (as in us foolish taxpayers) to insure your investments, and to bail you out when you’ve built on a flood plain, barrier islands, hurricane territory, and other places where you’re certain to incur losses from a natural disaster.
Yikes! With predictions like those, it makes me think one of their primary sources was this:
Isn’t there a point where people start getting suspicious that they’ve crossed into the realm of science fantasy instead of a real possibility?
And really, if you can tolerate lots of humidity, the Deep South really isn’t all that bad compared to the Great Plains or the Desert Southwest when it comes to summer temp extremes.
Well there is a reuters article that talks about the PLAN and the tax is going to be a 1.5% insurance surcharge for all insurance, that is going to hurt.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/11/us-climate-newyork-plan-idUSBRE95A10120130611
I’d love to see the Central Park Graph with an added line, actually two added lines.
The number of small domestic AC units installed.
The number of vehicles with AC installed.
It’s the Moon wat don it. So much for the debate is over and the science is settled. What a load of utter bollocks.
“Long-Term Lunar Atmospheric Tides in the Southern Hemisphere”
http://joannenova.com.au/2013/06/can-the-moon-change-our-climate-can-tides-in-the-atmosphere-solve-the-mystery-of-enso/
NYC, according to at least some climate maps, is at the northern edge of the Continental / Humid Subtropical zone. Yep, that means hot and humid summers. Zzzzzzzzzzzz ……
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People use whatever comes along to promote their own personal gain or a personal goal they believe in, even if that goal may not be reached in their lifetime. Is the goal to give people a choice or to force them to accept what the “elite” have chosen for them?
I noticed that the Sydney Morning Herlad ran the Bloomberg story yesterday. Its amazing that they don’t publish skeptic articles that are basred on real scientific data and good scientific process yet print rubbish like this that has no base in reality.
(Note: “Plain Richard” is a sock puppet for Reich.Eschhaus. This is in violation of site Policy. Comments snipped. Further infractions will result in a permanent ban. ~mod.)
Latitude says:
June 11, 2013 at 8:35 am
People in the deep south must be dropping off like flies………..
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Actually we are freezing are A… Donkeys off. It STILL has not reached 90F (32C) and I had to put the blanket back on the bed. May highs were about 5F below average and 10F below what they were ten years ago. (Highs were 89F for the May monthly avg in 2004 vs 77F in 2013 STILL in the 60’s at night.)
My electric bill (A/C) has dropped like a rock.
Chad Wozniak says:
June 11, 2013 at 9:10 am
How much do you want to bet that that 108-degree sign was heated?
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Note the temp sensor is right at the signs heat exhaust port… Got to love the tales these idiots like to tell…
The SHUT-UP graph on sea level rise.
When sea levels start falling is when you need to start worrying.
According to NOAA data, all time Antarctic sea ice extent record was set on Sept 22nd, 2012
One of Jo Nova’s commenters said something about the sea Ice being even higher now compared to 2012 and has crept outside the Antarctic circle image
WUWT Sea Ice page shows: graph 1 and graph 2
Staten-John says:
June 11, 2013 at 11:59 am
Global warming is the real deal folks!
“The deniers will be washed away when Sandy II comes….kind of a rude baptism.”
There are Deniers in NYC? Could have fooled me. They must keep a very low profile. There is more public dissent in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia than in NYC.
Plain Ricard says:
… Bloomberg wants to build flood defenses and WUWT says he shouldn’t bother.
Hmm. Where does he say that?
I am moving to New York and I can report that up-state New York is COLD right now. Colder than many people have experienced. I was there spring break and the jetty out into Lake Ontario was still covered with ice at the end of it.
Maybe my presence there will warm things up.
Plain Richard, if you believe that Hizzoner Bloomberg has intentions motivated by public service I have a bridge to sell you; it happens to be in NYC.
As far as I can tell from mostly reading, and not contributing, WUWT doesn’t say anything. A number of very intelligent critical thinking individuals do comment.
But you raise a good question: why is “New Orleans (i.e. — we) building better protection” when a good chunk of it is already below sea level. Are there no other better places to live? Especially if you’ve already been flooded out. Seems like maybe the higher IQ option than “no action” is to move to higher ground? If people want to stay, it’s their choice. Just don’t burden the rest of us with your bad decisions. Like Boston’s “big dig”, New Yorkers will be happy to share the cost burden with all of us, and Bloomy will be happy to reap the personal financial benefits.
Who wants to bet Bloomberg is positioning himself to financially profit from all the climate doom & gloom? Al Gore tried and failed. Let’s hope the same thing happens to this megalomaniac.
ONE MONTH AGO – Bill Clinton and Bloomberg unveil ‘climate risk’ project
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/bill-clinton-bloomberg-unveil-climate-risk-project-214502570.html
quote:
The project will be run through C40, a coalition of major cities around the world that united to study the impact of climate change on their municipalities. The group, chaired by Bloomberg, merged two years ago with the Clinton Climate Initiative—an offshoot of Clinton’s philanthropic foundation. Known as the C40 Risk Assessment Framework, the “climate risk” project, as Bloomberg referred to it, would develop a consistent set of measures by which cities could assess their risk of a natural disaster, including hurricanes and floods.
on Bloomberg’s website (mikebloomberg.com) the press release states the goal of the program is to:
quote:
– Enable cities to assess local climate risks with confidence
– Allow for local prioritizing of investments to mitigate those risks
– Achieve comparability between cities
– Enable banks to better structure * lending * for resilient infrastructure, and the develop standards for accessing adaptation-linked finance
– Enable * insurance companies * to value risk in a uniform way, ensuring continued investment in urban infrastructure
His group will push for extreme weather / natural disasters risk assessments for major world cities to be based on the most alarmist prediction models circulating among climate change activists-scientists and he will find a way to make a lot of money with this. How exactly I’m not sure but if there’s a financial reporter not working for Bloomberg’s news agency reading this, I think you got a story to investigate.
Its not a case of dont do anything, its a case of doing now, what they should have done years ago to protect themselves from realistic threats. spending 20bil and not getting the right things done in a timely matter is a travesty. Not to diminish the pain that NYC went through but super storm sandy was hardly a superstorm. It could have been significantly worse. Anyone who has lived in south florida or along the gulf coast can attest to the potential of a regular every day hurricane. If sandy had been a Wilma, Andrew or a Katrina or worse 1938 there wouldnt be a NYC right now.
@Joe Kirklin Bastardi –
Well said.
One might be tempted to wonder if the carbon tax lovers have ever considered the number of people their fetish is going to kill, and what else it will destroy. By some accounts carbon taxes have killed as many as 36,000 people in Europe during the past three winters, and destroiyed 75,000 jobs in Australia (proportionately would be 1,875,000 jobs in the US). H0wever, I think they have thought this through, and those deaths and unemployment and general misery is exactly what they want most – to punish the US for its impertinence in having achieved something in spite of them,
I am convinced that all the AGW crowd, all the way up to der Fuehrer himself, harbor a visceral hatred for this country and are looking for some sort of revenge. Der Fuehrer’s atttitude was so well summed up in “Rev.” Jeremiah Wright’s “God Damn America.”
Bloomie probably never looked a a map of the Hudson when Ole Henry sailed up it in the 1600’s.
If he did he’d see that half of the World Trade Center would have been in the river.
Sandy-no worse (weather wise) than the 1938 hurricane or the one that washed away Hog island in the 1890’s.
NYC is probably the biggest UHI on the planet
1938 hurricane hit long island as a CAT3 Major Hurricane. It killed around 700 people.
While I thoroughly believe that Sandy may have been the worst disaster in American History, resulting in four more years of Obama, the UHI chart is bogus. Unless there is some demonstrated correlation showing that increased population causes a specific amount of heating per person, the alignment of population and temperature is an artifact of setting the graphic units.
Plain Richard says:
June 11, 2013 at 4:22 pm “
Don’t make stuff up. The post deflates this: “The bad weather patterns should kink in as early as 2020 . . . ” Also, there is the 1 foot rise of seal level in 7 years and 10% more rainfall.
Go back and read all the WUWT posts about the storm Sandy. Or the storms before that. Go drive around in some of those flooded areas. Just don’t blame others for the stupendously stupid politicians and developers in the NYC region.
Mark Besse (@MarkB1205) says:
June 11, 2013 at 9:33 pm
If you mean 4 more years of BO as the worst disaster in American History, that is likely true. If you mean the storm Sandy then you probably have not visited Galveston or know of its “Great Storm.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane