From the Oh noes, we’re almost doomed department:
For the first time in roughly 5 million years, the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere could top 400 parts per million in the Northern Hemisphere next month.
What Doyle Rice is writing about is this Tweet from Scripps:
399.72 parts per million CO2 in air
April 25, 2013http://t.co/5Q2FLbb4ix— Keeling_Curve (@Keeling_curve) April 26, 2013
Interesting how a single Tweet can become an entire news story, especially since Mauna Loa data still has a ways to go. It’s almost as if Doyle can’t wait for this to happen.
Expect a plethora of gloom and doom stories next month or maybe the month after when MLO hits 400.
Note that the seasonally corrected trend number has a ways to go and Doyle in his article cites the unofficial number, not yet released, and often corrected later:
As of Tuesday, the reading was 398.44 ppm as measured at Mauna Loa.
At Scripps, they are already gearing up for the announcement, trying to visualize what 400 PPM looks like. Apparently, it looks like a fossil skull (see their story below). For the average person, they won’t notice anything, pre 400 CO2 will look exactly to them like post 400 CO2, and just like the Y2K bug, it is nothing more than a number, and nothing will happen when that threshold is crossed. Though, if there is any severe weather anywhere in the world within that month, you can bet some fool (like Joe Romm) will try to link the two events.
From Scripps:
What Does 400 ppm Look Like?

As atmospheric carbon dioxide levels rise, scientists look back four million years for answers on what to expect from climate
The Pliocene is the geologic era between five million and three million years ago. Scientists have come to regard it as the most recent period in history when the atmosphere’s heat-trapping ability was as it is now and thus as our guide for things to come.
Recent estimates suggest CO2 levels reached as much as 415 parts per million (ppm) during the Pliocene. With that came global average temperatures that eventually reached 3 or 4 degrees C (5.4-7.2 degrees F) higher than today’s and as much as 10 degrees C (18 degrees F) warmer at the poles. Sea level ranged between five and 40 meters (16 to 131 feet) higher than today.
As for what life was like then, scientists rely on fossil records to recreate where plants and animals lived and in what quantity. Pliocene fossil records show that the climate was generally warmer and wetter than today. Maps of Pliocene vegetation record forests growing on Ellesmere Island in the Canadian Arctic, and savannas and woodlands spreading over what is now North African desert. Both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets were smaller than today during the warmest parts of the Pliocene.
In the oceans, fossils mark the spread of tropical and subtropical marine life northward along the U.S. Eastern Seaboard. Both observations and models of the Pliocene Pacific Ocean show the existence of frequent, intense El Niño cycles—a climatic oscillation that today delivers heavy rainfall to the western U.S. causing both intense flooding but also increasing the river flows needed to sustain salmon runs. The absence of significant ocean upwelling in the warmest part of the Pliocene would have suppressed fisheries along the west coasts of the Americas, and deprived seabirds and marine mammals of food supplies. Reef corals suffered a major extinction during the peak of Pliocene warmth but reefs themselves did not disappear.
Richard Norris, a geologist at Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UC San Diego, said the concentration of CO2 is one means of comparison, but what is not comparable, and more significant, is the speed at which 400 ppm is being surpassed today.
“I think it is likely that all these ecosystem changes could recur, even though the time scales for the Pliocene warmth are different than the present,” Norris said. “The main lagging indicator is likely to be sea level just because it takes a long time to heat the ocean and a long time to melt ice. But our dumping of heat and CO2 into the ocean is like making investments in a pollution ‘bank,’ since we can put heat and CO2 in the ocean, but we will only extract the results (more sea-level rise from thermal expansion and more acidification) over the next several thousand years. And we cannot easily withdraw either the heat or the CO2 from the ocean if we actually get our act together and try to limit our industrial pollution–the ocean keeps what we put in it.”
Scientists can analyze the gases trapped in ice to reconstruct with high accuracy what climate was like in prehistory, but that record only goes back 800,000 years. It is trickier to estimate carbon dioxide levels before then, but in 2009, one research team reported finding evidence of carbon dioxide levels ranging between 365 and 415 ppm roughly 4.5 million years ago. They based their finding on the analysis of carbon isotopes present in compounds made by tiny marine phytoplankton preserved in ancient ocean sediments.
That estimate made Earth’s last experience of 400 ppm a much more recent event than scientists have commonly thought. There has been broader consensus that carbon dioxide concentrations have been much higher than today’s but not for tens of millions of years. The assertion that Earth passed the 400 ppm mark a mere 4.5 million years ago has been supported by other analyses, many of which also concluded that the temperatures at that time were higher than previously estimated. These studies suggest that the traditional way scientists currently rate Earth’s long-term sensitivity to extra doses of CO2 might not sufficiently take into account the slower effects of climate change on the sunlight-absorbing properties of the planet, such as ice sheet melt and changes in plant cover on land.
What that means is that Earth might react even more strongly to the increases in CO2 measured by the Keeling Curve. Several prominent questions remain to be answered, though, before accurate scenarios can be created. The extreme speed at which carbon dioxide concentrations are increasing is unprecedented. An increase of 10 parts per million might have needed 1,000 years or more to come to pass during ancient climate change events. Now the planet is poised to reach the 1,000 ppm level in only 100 years if emissions trajectories remain at their present level.
“Our grandchildren will inhabit a radically altered planet, as the ocean gradually warms up in response to the buildup of heat-trapping gases,” said Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UC San Diego geoscientist Jeff Severinghaus.
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400 ppm is a very important threshold in the CO2 levels. It ends with two zeros.
and here we are in the UK getting cooler over the last 6 years or so.
Hopefully this oil industry geologist will be onshore the day we break the 400 barrier because I intend to have a few celebratory beers.
“Our grandchildren will inhabit a radically altered plane,
it started with our children, that didn’t pan out, now its our grandchildren,
But the global temperature rise stalled at least 16 years ago. Funny that.
Richard
Ohmygawd. That’s almost 1/6 of the CO2 level of the Jurrasic age. And we all know how man almost died out back then because of the T-Rexes hunting them in their SUVs.
What the researchers have wrong is that they interpretate the historical data in reverse order: the higher temperatures caused the increase of CO2. The reverse may give a little help to a temperature increase, but that effect is obviously not huge…
Good news is that my young trees will be huge trees in no time…
It´s not CO2 Like it´s not CO2 today but ye you have to make the story so here it is. Rice only finds a way to proof someone stupid. If you belief this grap you must be stupid.
Haven’t they just blown the whole theory out of the water? If temps were 3 degrees higher at 415 ppm and we are currently at say 400 then we should expect that rise in temperature in say a year or so when we reach 415ppm?? Or isn’t there a correlation between CO2 and temperature? Which is it.
Ah, this time it is not just our children who will suffer, but our granchildren too. Shame he did not mention the kittens, puppies and baby seals too.
What’s that? Seal like bigger oceans?? Ok, scrap the seals, but what about the kittens and puppies?
The Scripps site has not updated its “daily” curve for several days now:
http://keelingcurve.ucsd.edu
“Recent estimates suggest CO2 levels reached as much as 415 parts per million (ppm) during the Pliocene. With that came global average temperatures that eventually reached 3 or 4 degrees C (5.4-7.2 degrees F) higher than today’s and as much as 10 degrees C (18 degrees F) warmer at the poles. Sea level ranged between five and 40 meters (16 to 131 feet) higher than today.”
Yet somehow all that extra forcing didn’t lead to a “tipping point” back then, and Earth’s climate doesn’t resemble that of Venus today.
What does it say for all the claims that temperatures only 2 degrees warmer than pre-industrial levels will result in “runaway global warming”? If it didn’t happen then, why would it happen now?
And what does that say for the relative magnitude of positive vs. negative feedbacks in the system?
Isn’t it obvious? It means we will be eaten by smildons.
400 PPM and no significant warming for 16 years? Tailgate Party!
That “fossil skull” is too light and evenly colored to be anything but a replica. Can you say model? 😛 But I’d bet it comes a lot closer to reality than whatever Scripps is basing its scare story about “dumping of heat and CO2 into the ocean” on. After all, if it’s warmer, shouldn’t the oceans outgas CO2?
The oceans will only adsorb CO2 up to the limit imposed by temperature not partial pressure, at least not in this case since the partial pressure increase is so very small compared to the overall atmospheric pressure. Temperature is the most important criteria.
400ppmv is not a magical figure and does not mean sudden sky falling. CO2 levels during the past were not lower than today as research from Victorian Europe can show. Levels of over 400 and 490ppmv was measured in one place in UK using the same methods as we use today.
Corals love CO2 as they use it to build reefs. They can grow at a rate that will keep up with any sea level rises.
Scripps has a long history of scare mongering on this subject. It is the only way they get their large government grants for ”research”.
Looks like the people at Scripps aren’t familiar with this graph:
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/PageMill_Images/image277.gif
from: http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/Carboniferous_climate.html
No wonder the Pliocene age came crashing to a halt in a mere two million years! The irresponsible governments of that time didn’t realize the dangers that would irrevocably alter the planet forever. The horrors of global warming writ large and ignored has led the planet to the here and now….
…uh, nevermind…
CO2 goes down in the NH summer as all of the crop plants do their stuff – if it doesn’t reach 400 by May, it will be winter before it gets there.
WOW!!! It is up to 400 parts per million???? OH NOES!!! WE ARE DOOOOOMED!!!
Hang on?
Just a minute……Why are we not fried to a crisp already?
In fact, not only are we not fried to a crisp…. but….. Why has warming stalled for close to 2 decades now, in spite of rapidly increasing CO2?
Hmmmmmmmmm….
Could it actually be that CO2 is NOT the catastrophic danger that we had been mistakenly led to believe, after all?
If you look at the raw flask data, 400ppm has been exceeded many times at many places since Scripps started using their method. They don’t include those values when they calculate their monthly “background” averages. That 400ppm monthly average value was exceeded at an Arctic site back in the spring of 2012. Yes, it will continue to rise, but not in lock step with anthro emissions. The rate of rise is less now than it was several years ago and appears to be decreasing while man made emission rates have been increasing.
“What Does 400 ppm Look Like?” A very low concentration, for those used to working in glasshouses where CO2-level is boosted to encourage plant growth to make more human-food
It was snowing yesterday in some parts of Spain. Such a strange warming…
I still don’t understand as to why CD Meter readings are not included in local weather forecasts. What is wrong with the meteorologists anyway? Don’t they know that when there is a high reading of CO2 in their local region, that would explain why local temperatures are rising?