USA Today's breathless CO2 announcement – not quite there yet

From the Oh noes, we’re almost doomed department:

For the first time in roughly 5 million years, the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere could top 400 parts per million in the Northern Hemisphere next month.

Full story at USA Today.

What Doyle Rice is writing about is this Tweet from Scripps:

Interesting how a single Tweet can become an entire news story, especially since Mauna Loa data still has a ways to go. It’s almost as if Doyle can’t wait for this to happen.

Expect a plethora of gloom and doom stories next month or maybe the month after when MLO hits 400.

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Note that the seasonally corrected trend number has a ways to go and Doyle in his article cites the unofficial number, not yet released, and often corrected later:

As of Tuesday, the reading was 398.44 ppm as measured at Mauna Loa.

At Scripps, they are already gearing up for the announcement, trying to visualize what 400 PPM looks like. Apparently, it looks like a fossil skull (see their story below). For the average person, they won’t notice anything, pre 400 CO2 will look exactly to them like post 400 CO2, and just like the Y2K bug, it is nothing more than a number, and nothing will happen when that threshold is crossed. Though, if there is any severe weather anywhere in the world within that month, you can bet some fool (like Joe Romm) will try to link the two events.

From Scripps:

What Does 400 ppm Look Like?

April 25, 2013

Richard Norris holds a cast of a Pliocene-era walrus skull found in San Diego, Calif.

As atmospheric carbon dioxide levels rise, scientists look back four million years for answers on what to expect from climate

The Pliocene is the geologic era between five million and three million years ago. Scientists have come to regard it as the most recent period in history when the atmosphere’s heat-trapping ability was as it is now and thus as our guide for things to come.

Recent estimates suggest CO2 levels reached as much as 415 parts per million (ppm) during the Pliocene. With that came global average temperatures that eventually reached 3 or 4 degrees C (5.4-7.2 degrees F) higher than today’s and as much as 10 degrees C (18 degrees F) warmer at the poles. Sea level ranged between five and 40 meters (16 to 131 feet) higher than today.

As for what life was like then, scientists rely on fossil records to recreate where plants and animals lived and in what quantity. Pliocene fossil records show that the climate was generally warmer and wetter than today.  Maps of Pliocene vegetation record forests growing on Ellesmere Island in the Canadian Arctic, and savannas and woodlands spreading over what is now North African desert. Both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets were smaller than today during the warmest parts of the Pliocene.

In the oceans, fossils mark the spread of tropical and subtropical marine life northward along the U.S. Eastern Seaboard.  Both observations and models of the Pliocene Pacific Ocean show the existence of frequent, intense El Niño cycles—a climatic oscillation that today delivers heavy rainfall to the western U.S. causing both intense flooding but also increasing the river flows needed to sustain salmon runs. The absence of significant ocean upwelling in the warmest part of the Pliocene would have suppressed fisheries along the west coasts of the Americas, and deprived seabirds and marine mammals of food supplies.  Reef corals suffered a major extinction during the peak of Pliocene warmth but reefs themselves did not disappear.

Richard Norris, a geologist at Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UC San Diego, said the concentration of CO2 is one means of comparison, but what is not comparable, and more significant, is the speed at which 400 ppm is being surpassed today.

“I think it is likely that all these ecosystem changes could recur, even though the time scales for the Pliocene warmth are different than the present,” Norris said.  “The main lagging indicator is likely to be sea level just because it takes a long time to heat the ocean and a long time to melt ice. But our dumping of heat and CO2 into the ocean is like making investments in a pollution ‘bank,’ since we can put heat and CO2 in the ocean, but we will only extract the results (more sea-level rise from thermal expansion and more acidification) over the next several thousand years.  And we cannot easily withdraw either the heat or the CO2 from the ocean if we actually get our act together and try to limit our industrial pollution–the ocean keeps what we put in it.”

Scientists can analyze the gases trapped in ice to reconstruct with high accuracy what climate was like in prehistory, but that record only goes back 800,000 years. It is trickier to estimate carbon dioxide levels before then, but in 2009, one research team reported finding evidence of carbon dioxide levels ranging between 365 and 415 ppm roughly 4.5 million years ago. They based their finding on the analysis of carbon isotopes present in compounds made by tiny marine phytoplankton preserved in ancient ocean sediments.

That estimate made Earth’s last experience of 400 ppm a much more recent event than scientists have commonly thought. There has been broader consensus that carbon dioxide concentrations have been much higher than today’s but not for tens of millions of years. The assertion that Earth passed the 400 ppm mark a mere 4.5 million years ago has been supported by other analyses, many of which also concluded that the temperatures at that time were higher than previously estimated.  These studies suggest that the traditional way scientists currently rate Earth’s long-term sensitivity to extra doses of CO2 might not sufficiently take into account the slower effects of climate change on the sunlight-absorbing properties of the planet, such as ice sheet melt and changes in plant cover on land.

What that means is that Earth might react even more strongly to the increases in CO2 measured by the Keeling Curve. Several prominent questions remain to be answered, though, before accurate scenarios can be created. The extreme speed at which carbon dioxide concentrations are increasing is unprecedented. An increase of 10 parts per million might have needed 1,000 years or more to come to pass during ancient climate change events. Now the planet is poised to reach the 1,000 ppm level in only 100 years if emissions trajectories remain at their present level.

“Our grandchildren will inhabit a radically altered planet, as the ocean gradually warms up in response to the buildup of heat-trapping gases,” said Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UC San Diego geoscientist Jeff Severinghaus.

– Robert Monroe

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paddylol
April 30, 2013 9:52 am

I am enthralled. Now we have peer reviewed tweets.

Resourceguy
April 30, 2013 9:59 am

The report showing 43,000 dead sheep in Northern Ireland snowdrifts and delayed Spring also has a lot of zeroes.

Jimbo
April 30, 2013 10:03 am

Recent estimates suggest CO2 levels reached as much as 415 parts per million (ppm) during the Pliocene……………….Pliocene fossil records show that the climate was generally warmer and wetter than today.

Could it be that co2 rise followed temperature rise? If not then what caused the co2 rise?

Retired Engineer John
April 30, 2013 10:27 am

A tidbit about the history of CO2 predictions.
The 1957 yearbook of the Americana Encyclopedia in the 3 page article on “Meteorology And Climatology” had this paragraph under the Climatology heading:
“A recomputation of the infrared absorption of carbon dioxide helps substantiate the belief that changes in the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere can bring about considerable temperature variations. For example, a doubling of the atmospheric content of CO2 would lead to a surface-temperature rise of 6.5 degrees F.”
The article was written by H. E. Landsberg, a long time Director, Office of Climatology, U. S. Weather Bureau. Landsberg was a regular writer for the Americana Encyclopedia as well as other short climate publications. From this statement, you can see the beginnings of the modern push on the CO2 dogma.

richardscourtney
April 30, 2013 10:34 am

Phil.:
re your post at April 30, 2013 at 9:35 am.
Ferdinand is here so you could left discussion of the carbon cycle to him because he knows what he is talking about.
Your calculations are meaningless because, for example, they ignore effect of pH.
The equilibrium CO2 concentrations of atmosphere and ocean surface are dependent on the alkalinity of ocean surface layer. A change of average pH of only 0.1 would be more than sufficient to have caused more than all of the observed rise in atmospheric CO2 since the industrial revolution. And such a change is far, far too small for it to be discernible.
Could such a change have happened? Yes, and the reason for it would probably have ended centuries ago.
Undersea volcanoes release sulphur ions which are carried by the passing water. The thermohaline circulation carries the sulphur until it reaches ocean surface layer centuries later. The sulphur ions then reduce the alkalinity of the ocean surface layer.
Did a variation in undersea volcanic activity happen centuries ago? Nobody knows.
Is that the reason for recent rise in atmospheric CO2 or not? Nobody can know.
Phil., that is only one of the reasons why your calculations are meaningless nonsense.
Richard

Reg Nelson
April 30, 2013 10:45 am

ralfellis says:
April 30, 2013 at 7:26 am
Ah, this time it is not just our children who will suffer, but our granchildren too. Shame he did not mention the kittens, puppies and baby seals too.
What’s that? Seal like bigger oceans?? Ok, scrap the seals, but what about the kittens and puppies?
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After the Giant Crabs finish eating all the soft shell oysters, they’ll be going after the baby seals. Mark my word.

Tom Olsen
April 30, 2013 10:59 am

I find it ironic that in the same USA Today, there is an article stating how this April has been the coldest and snowiest on record.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/04/29/cold-snowy-spring-weather/2121737/
Of course weather is not climate… unless it is warm weather. /sarc

tadchem
April 30, 2013 11:01 am

Wow! CO2 is up over 42% from ‘pre-industrial levels’! (I wonder how they measured THAT with pre-industrial instruments back in the day…)
There has been no 42% increase in global temperature.
It was about 290 Kelvins back then, +/- 20; its about 290 Kelvins now, +/- 20.
If CO2 drives temperature, I would expect a 42% increase – to about 410 Kelvins.
So “Where’s the Heat?!”

April 30, 2013 11:01 am

Wouldn’t adding more CO2 to the atmosphere cause global cooling? CO2 is not as an effective greenhouse gas as other gasses such as water vapor or methane. If you’re replacing a methane molecule for instance with a CO2 molecule wouldn’t this have a cooling effect? You can’t have more than one million parts per million in the atmosphere. If you add 1PPM of one element 1PPM of another element gets bumped off the list, if the molecule that gets knocked out is a more effective greenhouse gas… just sayin”.

Jimbo
April 30, 2013 11:15 am

Recent estimates suggest CO2 levels reached as much as 415 parts per million (ppm) during the Pliocene. With that came global average temperatures that eventually reached 3 or 4 degrees C (5.4-7.2 degrees F) higher than today’s and as much as 10 degrees C (18 degrees F) warmer at the poles. Sea level ranged between five and 40 meters (16 to 131 feet) higher than today.

So when it gets to 415 parts per million and global mean temps stay around 14C and the North Pole is still there in Septembers and there is no acceleration in the rate of sea level rise then will they re-consider AGW??? This paper should be kept close by for that day. It’s just like a prediction.

Jimbo
April 30, 2013 11:30 am

Since we have passed the safe limit of 350ppm and are now at the dangerous 400ppm the effect has ravaged Saudi Arabia with more heat and drought.

Sunday, 28 April 2013
Saudi city covered with snow following unrelenting weather
Saudi Arabia’s northwestern city of Hael was covered with snow Sunday after almost three days of unrelenting weather conditions, according to Al Arabiya correspondents……
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/middle-east/2013/04/28/a.html

Jimbo
April 30, 2013 11:35 am

Here are more signs of early Spring in warm Spain……..one of the world’s most popular holiday resorts.

30 April 2013
26 regions in Spain are under snow following an unprecedented snowfall over the weekend, reported Voice of Russia. Roads have been closed to traffic as snow thickness reaches 20 centimeters in some areas……”
http://inserbia.info/news/2013/04/spain-occupied-by-snow/

This too is a sure sign of global warming.

April 30, 2013 11:43 am

I am just surprised that GISS has not adjusted the Pliocene CO2 levels down. They do it with temperatures all the time.

Pete
April 30, 2013 11:44 am

Greedy Academics Thumb There noses at Poor
What does 400 ppm Look Like
“Recent estimates suggest CO2 levels reached as much as 415 parts per million (ppm) during the Pliocene. With that came global average temperatures that eventually reached 3 or 4 degrees C (5.4-7.2 degrees F) higher than today’s and as much as 10 degrees C (18 degrees F) warmer at the poles. Sea level ranged between five and 40 meters (16 to 131 feet) higher than today.
As for what life was like then, scientists rely on fossil records to recreate where plants and animals lived and in what quantity. Pliocene fossil records show that the climate was generally warmer and wetter than today.  Maps of Pliocene vegetation record forests growing on Ellesmere Island in the Canadian Arctic, and savannas and woodlands spreading over what is now North African desert. Both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets were smaller than today during the warmest parts of the Pliocene. ”
So,it appears that there will likely to be more parts of the planet that can grow food, especially in parts of the world that have are currently experiencing poverty and food shortage.
But I guess it’s OK for some to say that agricultural technology will not be able to improve, even though we know that more CO2 produces more agricultural growth.
Today, the temperate and equatorial parts of the world can grow food quite well except for areas where drought appears. If there is more moisture in the air, there should be less drought.
With some slight warming perhaps there will be more areas toward polar regions that can grow food, and, ultimately, the result will be more food and less starvation throughout the planet, especially, in poverty stricken areas, such as Africa.
It appears to me the only people shouting armageddon are greedy academics who care absolutely zip for the poor, who constantly search for more grants to increase their own wealth, knowing that the poor only get poorer.

Gary Hladik
April 30, 2013 11:45 am

“For the first time in roughly 5 million years, the amount of carbon dioxide in the Earth’s atmosphere could top 400 parts per million in the Northern Hemisphere next month.”
Horrors! So what did they do 5 million years ago to prevent catastrophe and pass us our current best-of-all-possible-worlds climate?
Nothing, you say???
Well, then, that’s exactly what we should do! Who’s with me?

Retired Engineer John
April 30, 2013 11:54 am

Richard, you might want to check your chemistry book. Phil is correct. Also the PH of ocean water is a complex thing with the salinity, CO2 concentration, and calcium hydroxide concentration being determining factors.

stevenlibby
April 30, 2013 12:28 pm

Retired John and Phil– I think Richard’s point is that, sure, in a lab that may be true but out in the wild with a number of unknown and/or ill-defined or understood processes going on, particularly biological ones, not so much. I’m no scientist but that’s what I understood him to be addressing.

richardscourtney
April 30, 2013 12:33 pm

Retired Engineer John:
At April 30, 2013 at 11:54 am you say to me

Richard, you might want to check your chemistry book. Phil is correct. Also the PH of ocean water is a complex thing with the salinity, CO2 concentration, and calcium hydroxide concentration being determining factors.

Errr, No!.
Phil. is wrong. Please check your chemistry book.
I am fully aware of the carbonate buffer. But if you add extra sulphur ions to the ocean surface layer then you reduce its pH. If your chemistry text book says otherwise then get a better book.
Richard

petermue
April 30, 2013 12:34 pm

Is there any chance that those morons become extinct at 400 ppm? /sarc wish

April 30, 2013 12:56 pm

“Our grandchildren will inhabit a radically altered planet”
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Just about everything in the article sounded much better than today. Just like conditions are much better today than they were for our grandparents. Most of our grandparents lived during a time of two world wars and the great depression. And built fantastic modern cities and fed the world in the process.
My grandparents were born before the invention of antibiotics, cars, planes, plastics, electric lights, television and the radio. Manual labor was the main employment and the primary industry was farming. Many people alive today have never worked a job involving manual labor and have never been to a farm.
Every plant and animal on earth is descended from ancestors that survived much higher CO2 and much warmer temperatures. They survived, so will our grand children and their grandchildren, if climate is all they have to worry about.
Compared to the risk of economic collapse, disease, famine and war; climate is a walk in the park. The only reason anyone is worried about climate is because we are largely unaware of the other problems, having not seen them first hand. Our grandparents for certain saw them and understood the risks that the current generation has largely forgotten.

JP
April 30, 2013 1:02 pm

Doctor Richard Lindzen discovered that there are diminishing returns concerning GHG induced temperature increases once CO2 has doubled.
And we should also be cognizant of the fact that the global population is aging; it’s rate of increases is decreasing; and that as a conseuence, the consumption of food, energy, and consumer goods will begin to steadily decrease. That is, we are reaching a plateau of CO2 increases (anthropogenic), and we will begin decreasing concentrations (probably within the next 40-50 years) as the global population peaks and then begins to fall.

April 30, 2013 1:23 pm

Do these guys ever look out the window???

Chuck L
April 30, 2013 1:26 pm

Scripps is just another AGW enabler, no longer deserving of being taken seriously as a scientific institution.

AndyG55
April 30, 2013 1:45 pm

Onward and upward..
TOWARDS 700ppm !!!
Let the Earth flourish.

DirkH
April 30, 2013 2:12 pm

redcords says:
April 30, 2013 at 9:44 am
“Well 400ppm.org is there but I saw 400.org and it’s just a placeholder. Still up for grabs.”
Not a placeholder and not up for grabs; but you can surely buy it from the owner as he wants to earn money.