Uh oh, somebody in Germany in a position to influence others in the Green movement has started thinking for himself, shrugging off suggestions from a climate scientist that “its all in his head”.
Pierre Gosselin reports about a story by lefty journalist Harald Martenstein of Die Zeit:
“I was ready to open my home to the Schröders as soon as they would no longer be able to take the 60°C heat in the shade. But instead it got colder and colder. At Uckermark in the wintertime it was -20°C for weeks.”
Martenstein also noticed that Britain had endured its coldest winter in 30 years, Florida got covered by icicles, and the cold seemed to be spreading everywhere. So he pleaded that people should emit more CO2 – so that he could stay warm.
His plea, however, prompted an invitation from a “scientist at a very nice climate institute“:
He showed me tables and graphs that clearly depicted it was getting warmer. He believed that I was just a victim of my own subjective imagination. Memory can fool you. One thinks that during childhood it was warm from May to September, but in reality its was warm only 3 days, and it is those 3 days that one remembers intensively. The tables from climate scientists, on the other hand, do not lie.”
Martenstein then recounts the past winter and how it seemed to him as being the longest and hardest he could remember, but telling himself that it was probably just his warped subjectivity acting up again. He writes:
But suddenly I read in the paper that a number of climate scientists had changed their minds. Now they were saying it is not going to get warmer, but colder, at least in Europe. Whatever happened to the tables I now ask myself.”
This kind of science would never fly in biology or physics, Martenstein writes. ”But with climate science it seems they are allowed to get away with everything.”
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“I’ve wondered how journalistic institutions that have staked their reputations on AGW dogma will climb down.”
Journalists never climb down. They just find (other) people to pin the blame on.
Mike.
jorgekafkazar says:
April 19, 2013 at 11:05 am
Tilo Reber says: “The good news is that I’m developing some nice back muscles shoveling all the April snow in Denver.”
Heck, Tilo, it snowed in June when I lived there ~1974. Get used to it. Hum “I’m Dreaming of a White Cinco de Mayo” while you work.
Heh, heh… Jorge, I remember that storm clearly. I was camping in the mountains (Creedmore Lakes) when it occurred. It began snowing in the evening (to our amusement), and by morning I was wearing my collapsed tent under 15 inches of wet stuff. Our group was evacuated by sheriff’s 4wd trucks with all-around tire chains. Quite an adventure. Thanks for the memory!
Eric Simpson says:
April 19, 2013 at 8:54 am
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Weren’t many of those homes built in the Hollywood heydays? If so, perhaps there has been no sea level rise for more like 70 years.
Scientist Vs AGW Climate Paradigm Pusher
A scientist would look at the following graph of Antarctic Sea ice and look for an explanation as to why it is getting colder in the Antarctic. (Hint look up ‘polar see-saw’, the name climatologists have given to the observation that cyclically the Greenland Ice sheet warms and the Antarctic ice sheet cools and vice versa, then look up Dansgaard-Oeschger cycle.)
It is interesting to note that the Antarctic sea extent for 2012 and 2013 is greater than the 1979 to 2000 year average for the entire year.
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_bm_extent_hires.png
The AGW climate paradigm pusher on the other hand, must come up with an explanation that continues to push ‘global’ warming and stated that melting of the Antarctic ice sheet (they provide no evidence that there is any melting of the Antarctic ice) is creating more pools of fresh water around the ice sheet which freeze easier than salt water. There is a gem of a possible explanation if the Antarctic ice sheet was melting which it is not. Ignoring the lack of ice sheet melting there is more sea ice for every month of the year.
Logically that indicates it is colder for every month of the year to create more sea ice. In addition, as 2013 sea ice extent is significantly greater than 2012, it appears it is getting colder, in the Antarctic region. I see Arctic temperatures North of 80 degrees have cooled, are back to the normal compared to the average. If I understand the mechanisms and we have entered the cooling phase of a Dansgaard-Oeschger cycle, there will be significant cooling in the Arctic.
Assuming there is cooling, who will be the first major climate paradigm pusher to break ranks and announce global cooling and to question the foundation of the AGW theory?
P.S. The AGW climate paradigm pushers have not considered the possibility that the planet is and will significantly cool at which point the public and media will be looking for explanations (scientific as opposed to hand waving stories) and later as the cooling intensifies scapegoats.
This article, if you can call it that, is shallow thinking at best. You have missed the big picture. Global warming is not just the surface temperature that you experience. You forgot about the other atmospheric layers and how the play a role in the extreme weather patterns that we have seen such as 70 degrees in Feb wherein extreme highs and lows will be the norm going forward as the globe warms and as the Ice melts the slugs of cold water will interfere with the warm water flows of the oceans from the equator and in the winter Virginia Beach shipping will be ice locked due to the lack of warm waters flows and then you will claim SEE THERE IS NO GLOBAL WARMING LOOK AT THE ICE. You have a lack of understanding of complex systems and the role that they play. There is direct evidence that the sun is the biggest driver for the earths’ weather in that within one hour the energy output of the sun that reaches earth is equal to all of the energy that humans use in an entire year. You need to consider the scope of your claims and don’t forget the big picture.
I have to say you are WRONG, Global warming exist and the cost associated with sea level rise will be immeasurable.
I can’t wait to see the Hollywood elites stammering when asked about their support of AGW. James Cameron comes to mind as one of the worst.
Why are modern scientists so reluctant to learn from the wisdom of the past?
It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts.
— Arthur Conan Doyle (“Sherlock Holmes”)
The real purpose of (the) scientific method is to make sure Nature hasn’t misled you into thinking you know something that you actually don’t.
— Robert Pirsig
One thing I have learned in a long life: that all our science, measured against reality, is primitive and childlike – and yet it is the most precious thing we have.
— Albert Einstein
jc says:
April 19, 2013 at 11:09 am
“I get the impression – here and in other comments – that you are determined to not let yourself be beguiled by false hope, only to be disappointed. Is it possible that, in not believing change is occurring until you see direct evidence of a tangible nature in front of your own two eyes, that you have become a prisoner in your own way – as heretic with no expectations of the mad being sane – of AGW? Understandable if so!”
See, Germans really do listen when I explain the CO2 greenhouse effect to them. Even though they are warmists they don’t know the first thing about it. The reason is that they get all their information from public TV. Unfortunately there is no Fox News-like TV in Germany; our private TV stations concentrate on realitiy TV etc.
Read up on Popper’s concept of fallibility – that everything you believe could be wrong. This concept applies to the German public at large. I do not see a change here. Amazingly people still love the public TV, I never owned one.
So I have a completely different perspective. I have no reason to change. I’m just telling you how it is.
We pay about 8 bn EUR a year for our public media (we are forced to). Per head this is at least 3 times as much as the Brits are forced to fork over to the BBC.
Combine this with the fact that most Germans never read English language news so they trust the gatekeepers, the journos that do the translation and filtering.
What you have is an insular culture with about 100 million people with its very own misconceptions (and granted, in some cases superior concepts).
One sign of the climbdown will be seen in the decreased frequency of the use of the word ‘denier’ and an increase in the use of the word ‘sceptics’.
Over at Notrickszone’s related thread I read the question we have all been asking with nice numbers.
This is funny! I’ll explain:
Harald Martenstein writes a weekly column in the lifestyle section of Die Zeit. And he does this in the format of satirical causerie.
The blogspot Klimazwiebel picks up on this and concludes (I think correctly so) that Harald is no climate sceptic, but Klimazwiebel hopes that a satire can do more hurt to climate scientists than a criticism in the science part of a magazine and that criticism of climate science has arrived in the “middle of society”. Well, you can hope!
Then notrickszone picks it up after that and in the process declares Die Zeit as the mother of German green weeklies! Die Zeit? Mother of German green weeklies? Wtf? All of a sudden Harald is made to be a “leading lefty journalist”. Nice spin! There are some more exaggerations. And errors. Errors that get propagated (also here). I”ll mention 2:
Original: “ein sehr netter Klimaforscher in sein Institut”
Notrickszone: “scientist at a very nice climate institute“
Should be: “a very nice climate scientist at his institute”
Original: “in Florida gab es Eiszapfen”
Notrickszone: “Florida got covered by icicles”
Should be: “there were icicles in Florida”
And thus Watts declares “The Unraveling of Global Warming is Accelerating” and “somebody in Germany in a position to influence others in the Green movement has started thinking for himself, shrugging off suggestions from a climate scientist that “its all in his head””. Really? Because of one satirical column? Did he read the original column? You know, checking sources and all that…
Meanwhile Lawrence Salomon (over at the financial post) didn’t check how the Magazine name is spelled but declares “German newsmagazine, Der Zeit, joins list of climate skeptics” and “Der Zeit and its top columnist Harald Martenstein, join the list of newly skeptical global warming journalists”. Because of one satirical column! Hilarious! It isn’t an opinion piece, and it isn’t the opinion of Die Zeit.
I guess Harald Martenstein is having a a very good time at the moment and I will definitely look for his column next week to see if he has picked up this worldwide attention in “sceptical” circles.
Come the next El Nino, the heat accumulating in the ocean is going to lead to a temperature spike on the surface. It will be interesting when the shoe is on the other foot.
Arthur Peacock said: “Whatever the problem, the solution never varies.”
A neat variation on the Einstein dictum,
“madness is to go on repeating the same experiment expecting different results.”
CO2 is a “trace gas” in air, insignificant by definition. It absorbs 1/7th as much IR, heat energy, from sunlight as water vapor which has 80 times as many molecules capturing 560 times as much heat making 99.8% of all “global warming.” CO2 does only 0.2% of it. For this we should destroy our economy?
Carbon combustion generates 80% of our energy. Control and taxing of carbon would give the elected ruling class more power and money than anything since the Magna Carta of 1215 AD.
See The Two Minute Conservative at: http://tinyurl.com/7jgh7wv and when you speak ladies will swoon and liberal gentlemen will weep.
This reminds me of how the Berlin Wall fell. If you look at the details of that episode, it all began as an offhand comment at a news conference that people took seriously, then Eastern authorities got caught behind the curve as people thronged to the Wall and began celebrating. Wall guards figured there must have been an authoritative edict and even joined the celebration, and it all went south from there. Hence no shots were fired but there were a lot of red-faced authorities afterwards.
Some commenters above are trying to discount the impact of this but the East Germans who lost the Berlin Wall would tell you that big changes can happen from seemingly small mistakes.
Hi RockyRoad,
Not sure why a fictional satirical column of some German author reminds you of the fall of the Berlin Wall. However, I think there might be quite some (former East-) Germans that would take your description of the Fall of the Berlin Wall as seriously lacking in scope. You leave out all mass demonstrations and fleeing out of the former DDR (often with risk of live). The offhand remark you refer to is by Schabowski at a press conference explaining the lifting of travel restrictions. The lifting of travel restrictions had already been decided. The only thing offhand was that he declared the lifting coming into effect immediately. However it was popular protest that put the pressure on the authorities to allow travel. As said, I see no parallel between this offhand remark and a satirical column.
See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Wall#The_Fall
@ur momisugly Stan W. says:
April 19, 2013 at 12:44 pm
Surprising to you perhaps, but it seems many people here are not scared of the weather.
As to your expectation that shoes must only be available for one foot, a lot of people seem to wear two as a matter of course, and are able to maintain balance because of it. Try it.
@Pointman (April 19, 2013 at 10:45 am)
May I recommend a replacement for S Crow? …
“I’m gonna keep it frozen here forever,
[…] I’m making the night mine until the day I die” — Krewella – Alive
@ur momisugly DirkH says:
April 19, 2013 at 12:06 pm
You make the prospects seem very gloomy. Hopefully that is part of a German cultural cliche!
I do take your point, supported by Reich.Eschhaus above, that this should not be taken as being indicative of a wider movement in opinion. Beyond any established mindset anywhere, insularity does seem to be something for which conditions are ripe in many countries, so this may – being linked as you have previously said – tend to re-inforce thinking (is it that?) on AGW.
But some activity where there was none can only be an advantage.
@JC
“I do take your point, supported by Reich.Eschhaus above, that this should not be taken as being indicative of a wider movement in opinion. Beyond any established mindset anywhere, insularity does seem to be something for which conditions are ripe in many countries, so this may – being linked as you have previously said – tend to re-inforce thinking (is it that?) on AGW.”
It may well be I agree with DirkH that this satirical fiction column is not indicative of anything. Otherwise I don’t think I agree with much more that DirkH has written here. Describing Germany as insular is totally wrong in my opinion. It has at least 9 bordering countries (correct me if I’m wrong) and lies in the heart of the European Union. The media there surely pay attention to what happens in the countries around Germany and the in the wider world (but of course Germany has it own set of preoccupations that influence discourse).
But when DirkH mention further up the comment stream that
“The fun thing is Die Zeit is the social-democrat Leitorgan, SPD ex chancellor Helmut Schmidt is publisher. Die Zeit has been a leading alarmist medium, now that guy tries a climbdown, coated in slightly satirical language. He gets ravaged by his readers of course; making fun of the State Religion is strictly verboten.”
then I agree about Schmidt as well, but need to add that the SPD (social democratic political party) has a strong basis in the (former) coal miners, which is not green at all. Further, DirkH oversees that all columns of Harald Martenstein in Die Zeit are satirical, not “disguised in slightly satirical language”. Harald’s readers know this, he is not ravaged by them, as I type this there are 10 comments in total! This includes one comment linking to this page with the title “Martenstein is becoming the star of the sceptic’s scene”. Ha! To see what I mean read more of his columns here:
http://www.zeit.de/serie/martenstein
It is not serious journalism, simply satirical humorous light fiction. The mention of him being fired is funny. If he would get fired it would be because he did not get enough reactions on his article!
Then DirkH writes:
“And related, SPD is dropping below 20% in approval rating of their contender for the chancellor office, Steinbrück, for the elections in autumn. Look what you’ve done cursed AGW, I’m melting, melting!”
This has nothing to do with AGW, there are other reasons (EURO crisis?). More importantly, the polls looked totally different a year ago and they might look different again in autumn. I stress this because DirkH later says that “Germans are very stubborn once they have chosen their political religion”. In my opinion the Germans are getting more politically volatile with each year that passes (doing away with voting for the same party at each election).
But this is too long already and partially off topic as well. But concluding I find this from DirkH very funny: “Cognitive dissonance is a national sport.” I know Germans are happy discussing things, and they are not necessarily easily persuaded by discussions with others. However there exists a broad spectrum of opinion in Germany. DirkH however thinks that cognitive dissonance is at work throughout the nation, but doesn’t consider the option that he himself could be wrong.
@JC: You can be sure that when the next El Nino happens and surface temperatures spike upward, contrarians will be yelling “natural variability!” while conveniently forgetting they dismissed it now. Count on it.
The animals would rather have been warmer and had less statistics.
This is a comment by “Pragmatist” in response to a editorial by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, who I like, very much, about the failures to understand economic science:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100024122/debunking-austerity-claims-makes-no-difference-to-europes-monks-and-zealots/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Carlyle’s use of “dismal science” to describe economics does not quite mean what many people using the adjective “dismal” intend today. However, I shall go along with current usage.
Economics, whether applied at the micro or macro level, is an exalted “science”. The leading proponents of its different sects (sorry I meant schools) have the ear of governments just as once astrologers buzzed around monarchs.
Economics is not a science in the sense that Karl Popper would have understood. Indeed, Popper (see “Poverty of Historicism”) was merciless in his damnation of disciplines that claimed the mantle of science in order to obfuscate their shortcomings. Economics is not a science because it does not, for the most part, engage in the hypothetico-deductive process.
Stating that an activity is not a science need not be a condemnation. Rather, it is setting limits on its epistemological prowess. Economics is not a science. Moreover, it is impossible that it could be one because there is little, if any, scope for experiments to test theoretical predictions.
The best economists can do is fourfold. First, observe historical trends and draw deductions (these not being testable.) Second, examine the way people interact as in markets; aspects of this (zero sum games and such like) are testable on real people but not in real markets. Third, construct narrative theories based on observations and on such parts of human interactions as can be tested. Fourth, construct predictive econometric models.
Unfortunately, econometric model predictions are no more testable than climate change predictions and equally controversial. However, just as with climate models, they have their charm: few grasp their inner workings and thus cannot gainsay them; being mathematical in nature they have an aura of precision; and they fit squarely in what lay people regard as “science”.
It is arguable that econometric models used by financial institutions with respect to some of the markets in which they deal bear a share of the blame for recent financial catastrophes; perhaps, more correctly the blame lies with greedy senior management all too readily convinced by the overpaid econometric charlatans they employ.
Continuing the analogy with climate divination there are economic models run on computers which are akin to weather forecast software. Weather forecasting is based on a number of sound physical principles; it is capable of making useful short-term predictions. When these are consistently correct they give confidence in the quality of the assumptions and data encapsulated by the model. Yet, it seems that the mathematical phenomenon of chaos imposes a practical time limit on weather forecasting; it is plausible that a limit would apply to economic models even if their bases were sound.
The UK Treasury Model is an example of “weather forecasting”. How far forward is it trustable, if trustworthy at all? To what extent are attempts to place error bars around predictions justified? – that query arises from deep suspicion of non-frequentist use of probabilities lacking empirical estimates.
So to Reinhart-Rogoff and the University of Massachusetts economists. Where do they fit in the “dismal” picture?
From what has been reported in the press it appears that both teams were working at the observational end of economics. That is helpful because the data-handling errors of the first team were easily exposed. Yet whoever is “correct” in such circumstances has but tenuous claim to prescribe economic policies. They, or those proselytising such analyses, are merely expressing an opinion based on a few historical data points. Doubtless, reputable economists such as those mentioned here would not lay claim to a cause and effect relationship; the best they can do is argue its plausibility.
The conclusion to be drawn from the foregoing is that the complexity of economics (also bear in mind that there is not just one consensus view) obscures the paucity of its achievements; its accomplishments should be matched by proportional modesty from those who trumpet the discipline’s worth.
Think on it – schools of economics cannot agree on the conceptual basis of non-barter means of exchange e.g. money. So, why should a ramshackle edifice erected on an uncertain foundation be trusted?
Stan W.:
At April 19, 2013 at 3:41 pm you say
I don’t know about “contrarians”, but I can guarantee that we realists will certainly be saying that.
In the 1970s when alarmists were saying the cooling could be the onset of another ice age we said, “Well, it could be but it is probably natural variability”.
In the 1980s and 1990s when alarmists were saying the warming was AGW we said
“Well, some of it could be but if so then AGW is too small for it to be discernible from natural variability”.
In this century when alarmists are saying global warming is hiding under the bed or in the ocean deeps or somewhere we say,
“No, the stasis in global temperature is natural variability and it disproves assertions of significant AGW”.
When the next El Nino happens and surface temperatures spike upward we will say,
“El Nino is natural so the rise in temperature is natural variability”.
See, StanW., we realists are very predictable. And alarmists are, too: they will and do proclaim any natural variation as being a sign of imminent disaster.
Richard
DirkH says:
April 19, 2013 at 9:38 am
Germans are very stubborn once they have chosen their political religion; even when CO2AGW is long forgotten they will still pay the 20 bn EUR extra for wind and solar electricity a year without even thinking about it – at the same time blaming price increases on greedy capitalist energy companies.
Really I’m not kidding. Cognitive dissonance is a national sport.
William:
Germans are rational, although slow to change. (The first love of my life was Heide Richter.) In the end no free population will support a lie. It is not possible regardless of what is stated on television to hide global cooling. As the planet cools the severity of weather increases rather decreases.
Blizzard of 1977
Blizzard of 1978
The American panic concerning global cooling in the 1970s was in reaction to the effects of global cooling.
The majority of the population does not understand how climate has changed in the glacial/interglacial cycle and have not understand how the Northern Hemisphere climate has changed during the current interglacial. The fact that there are Dansgaard-Oeschger cycles in this interglacial period and the cause of the D-O cycles (there are cosmogenic isotope changes at each and every D-O cycle. The late Gerald Bond was able to track 23 D-O cycles through the interglacial period into the glacial period. The D-O have periodicity of 1450 years plus or minus 500 years.)
http://www.climate4you.com/images
/GISP2%20TemperatureSince10700%20BP%20with%20CO2%20from%20EPICA%20DomeC.gif
http://www.climate4you.com/images/VostokTemp0-420000%20BP.gif
I suppose that most people are not aware that it appears the solar cycle has been interrupted. The observed sunspot groups are composed of pores, tiny sunspots, that are the result of the magnetic ropes that create sunspots being torn up as they rise through the solar convection zone. The count of sunspots ignores the fact that what is being counted is pores, not sunspots. The magnetic field strength of newly formed sunspots is decaying linearly which indicates the magnetic field strength of the magnetic ropes that rise up through the solar convection zone to form sunspots on the surface of the sun are also decaying linearly. To survive the trip through the turbulent convection zone the magnetic ropes require a field strength of around 100,000 gauss based on Eugene Parker’s calculations. (The field strength of a sunspot on the surface of the sun is much less, around 3000 to 5000 gauss as the sunspot expands and losses field strength in the transition.)
http://www.solen.info/solar/images/comparison_recent_cycles.png
Oh well, let’s leave the discussion of global cooling to when there is unequivocal observational evidence of global cooling as opposed to a stall in warming. If and when there is unequivocal global cooling people will be more receptive to a discussion of the mechanisms. I persist with mentioning the subject as a prediction enables a foot to be put in the door of the mind.
I am curious, what is the German public’s knowledge concerning biofuels?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-22127123
Biofuels: ‘Irrational’ and ‘worse than fossil fuels’
There are also worries that taking EU land out of production to grow rapeseed oil in particular is creating more climate problems than it solves. The more fuel of this type that is put into cars the bigger the deficit created in the edible oils market. This had lead to increased imports of palm oil from Indonesia, often produced on deforested land.
“Once you take into account these indirect effects, biofuels made from vegetable oils actually result worldwide in more emissions than you would get from using diesel in the first place,” said Rob Bailey.
“Plus you are asking motorists to pay more for the fuel – it makes no sense, it is a completely irrational strategy.”
Under EU law, biofuels are set to make up 5% of the UK’s transport fuel from today.
But research carried out for Chatham House says that reaching the 5% level means that UK motorists will have to pay an extra £460m a year because of the higher cost of fuel at the pump and from filling up more often as biofuels have a lower energy content.
As the UK hits the 5% of liquid fuels mark, the government faces some difficult decisions on how to move forward on this issue as it faces tripling the costs for motorists by 2020.
Insiders suggest its preference would be to try and get agreement in Brussels on the impacts of indirect costs which might constrain what counts as biofuel. However getting agreement from countries with powerful agricultural sectors who benefit from the current arrangement will be difficult.
“When you have a lobby which includes the agricultural sector and the oil sector it is very hard for Governments to make a U-turn,” said Rob Bailey
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2008-04-14/biofuel-production-a-crime-against-humanity/2403402
Biofuels ‘crime against humanity’
Massive production of biofuels is “a crime against humanity” because of its impact on global food prices, a UN official has told German radio. “Producing biofuels today is a crime against humanity,” UN Special Rapporteur for the Right to Food Jean Ziegler told Bayerischer Runfunk radio. Many observers have warned that using arable land to produce crops for biofuels has reduced surfaces available to grow food. Mr Ziegler called on the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to change its policies on agricultural subsidies and to stop supporting only programs aimed at debt reduction. He says agriculture should also be subsidised in regions where it ensures the survival of local populations. Meanwhile, in response to a call by the IMF and World Bank over the weekend to a food crisis that is stoking violence and political instability, German Foreign Minister Peer Steinbrueck gave his tacit backing.
http://news.yahoo.com/prime-indonesian-jungle-cleared-palm-oil-065556710.html
Prime Indonesian jungle to be cleared for palm oil
Their former hero recently gave a palm oil company a permit to develop land in one of the few places on earth where orangutans, tigers and bears still can be found living side-by-side — violating Indonesia’s new moratorium on concessions in primary forests and peatlands.
Louis says:
April 19, 2013 at 12:01 pm
Why are modern scientists so reluctant to learn from the wisdom of the past?
The real purpose of (the) scientific method is to make sure Nature hasn’t misled you into thinking you know something that you actually don’t.
— Robert Pirsig
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I’m currently reading ‘Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance’ for the 4th or 5th time and had been reflecting on the relevance of chapters 9 and 10 to current climate ‘science’. It’s 70 years since the teenage Pirsig figured this out, 100 years since Einstein made the comments Pirsig refers to.
Here is the problem. Look at this message sent to me via e-mail from a guy named Bryce Carter of the Sierra Club.
“How has climate change impacted you? President Obama has asked the country to have a dialogue on climate change and we’ve taken up the task.
Join us for a Climate Legacy Roundtable on April 30 to hear from a variety of public stakeholders from the government, business, utility, and other perspectives discussing the issue and path to solutions in Colorado for climate change.
Colorado is on the frontlines of climate disruption, and we’re feeling the heat. Come hear how Coloradoans are impacted and what they’re doing about it.”
Several big name organizations have been making a killing on climate fear mongering. They have relentlessly pumped the “problem” for all the money they can get by taking advantage of the concerns raised by people, like the President, who should be exercising much more caution than they have. My personal reaction to this message is that Colorado has been on the front lines of the disinformation about the climate. I don’t know how long it will take for this crime to be unravled but I think it will eventually, and when it does, I hope the reaction is brutal for everyone who benefited from it.
@richardscourtney: Funny how you seem think to the only time natural variabilty isn’t acting is now.