On the scales of warming worry magnitudes– Part 2

Should We Worry About the Earth’s Calculated Warming at 0.7C Over Last the Last 100 Years When the Observed Daily Variations Over the Last 161 Years Can Be as High as 24C?

Guest post by Dr. Darko Butina

In Part 1 of my contribution I have discussed part of the paper which describes first step of data analysis known as ‘get-to-know-your-data’ step. The key features of that step are to established accuracy of the instrument used to generate data and the range of the data itself. The importance of knowing those two parameters cannot be emphasized enough since they pre-determine what information and knowledge can one gain from the data. In case of calibrated thermometer that has accuracy +/- 0.5C it means that anything within 1C difference in data has to be treated as ‘no information’ since it is within the instrumental error, while every variation in data that is larger than 1C can be treated as real. As I have shown in that report, daily fluctuation in the Armagh dataset varies between 10C and 24C and therefore those variations are real. In total contrast, all fluctuations in theoretical space of annual averages are within errors of thermometer and therefore it is impossible to extract any knowledge out of those numbers.

So let me start this second part in which I will quantify differences between the annual temperature patterns with a scheme that explains how thermometer works. Please note that this comes from NASA’s engineers, specialists who actually know what they are doing in contrast to their colleagues in modelling sections. What thermometer is detecting is kinetic energy of the molecules that are surrounding it, and therefore thermometer reflects physical reality around it. In other words, data generated by thermometer reflect physical property called temperature of the molecules (99% made of N2 and O2 plus water) that are surrounding it:

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Let us now plot all of Armagh data in their annual fingerprints and compare them with annual averages that are obtain from them:

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Graph 1. All years (1844-2004) in Armagh dataset, as original daily recordings, displayed on a single graph with total range between -16C and +32C

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Graph 2. All years (1844-2004) in Armagh dataset, in annual averages (calculated) space with trend line in red

Please note that I am not using any of ‘Mike’s tricks’ in Graph 2 where Y-axis range is identical to the Y-axis range in Graph1. Since Graph 2 is created by averaging data in Graph 1 it has to be displayed using the same temperature ranges to demonstrate what happens when 730-dimensional space is reduced to a single number by ‘averaging-to-death’ approach. BTW, I am not sure whether anyone has realised that not only a paper that analyse thermometer data has not been written by AGW community, but also not a single paper has been written that validates conversion of Graph 1 to Graph 2 – NOT A SINGLE PAPER! I have quite good idea, actually I am certain why that is the case but will let reader make his/her mind about that most unusual approach to inventing new proxy-thermometer without bothering to explain to wider scientific community validity of the whole process.

The main reason for displaying the two graphs above is to help me explain the main objective of my paper, which is to test whether the Hockey stick scenario of global warming, which was detected in theoretical space of annual averages, can be found in the physical reality of the Earth atmosphere, i.e. thermometer data. The whole concept of AGW hypothesis is based on idea that the calculated numbers are real and thermometer data are not, while the opposite is true. Graph 1 is reality and Graph 2 is a failed attempt to use averages in order to represent reality.

The hockey stick scenario can be represented as two lines graph consisting of baseline and up-line:

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The main problem we now have is to ‘translate’ 730-dimensional problem, as in Graph 1, into two-line problem without losing resolution of our 730-bit fingerprints. The solution can be found in scientific field of pattern recognition that deals with finding patterns in complex data, but without simplifying the original data. One of the standard ways is to calculate distance between two patterns and one of the golden standards is Euclidean distance, let’s call it EucDist:

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There are 3 steps involved to calculate it: square difference between two datapoints, sum them up and take square root of that sum. The range of EucDist can be anywhere between ‘0’ when two patterns are identical and very large positive number – larger the number, more distant two patterns are. One feature of using EucDist in our case is that it is possible to translate that distance back to the temperature ranges by doing ‘back-calculating’. For example, when EucDist = 80.0 it means that an average difference between any two daily temperatures is 3.14C:

1. 80 comes from the square root of 6400

2. 6400 is the sum of differences squared across 649 datapoints: 6400/649=9.86

3. 9.86 is an average squared difference between any two datapoints with the square root of 9.86 being 3.14

4. Therefore, when two annual temperature patterns are distant 80 in EucDist space, their baseline or normal daily ‘noise’ is 3.14C

Let me now introduce very briefly two algorithms that will be used, clustering algorithm dbclus, my own algorithm that I published in 1999 and since then has become one of the standards in field of similarity and diversity in space of chemical structures, and k Nearest Neighbours, or kNN, which is standard in fields of datamining and machine learning.

Basic principle of dbclus is to partition given dataset between clusters and singletons using ‘exclusion circles’ approach in which user gives a single instruction to the algorithm – the radius of that circle. Smaller the radius, tighter the clusters are. Let me give you a simple example to help you in visualising how dbclus works. Let us build matrix of distances between every planet in our solar system, where each planet’s fingerprints contain distance to all other planets. If we start with clustering run at EucDist=0, all planets will be labelled as singletons since they all have different grid points in space. If we keep increasing the radius of the (similarity) circle, at one stage we will detect formation of the first clusters and would find cluster that has the Earth as centroid and only one member – the Moon. And if we keep increasing that radius to some very big number, all planets of our solar system would eventually merge into a single cluster with the Sun being cluster centroid and all planets cluster members. BTW, due to copyrights agreement with the publisher, I can only link my papers on my own website which will go live by mid-May where free PDF files will be available. My clustering algorithm has been published as ‘pseudo-code’ so any of you with programming skills can code in that algorithm in any language of your choice. Also, all the work involving dbclus and kNN was done on Linux-based laptop and both algorithms are written in C.

Let us now go back to hockey stick and work out how to test that hypothesis using similarity based clustering approach. For the hockey stick scenario to work you need two different sets of annual temperature patterns – one set of almost identical patterns which form the horizontal line and one set that is very different and form up-line. So if we run clustering run at EucDist=0 or very close to it, all the years between 1844 up to, say 1990, should be part of a single cluster, while 15 years between 1990 and 2004 should either form their own cluster(s) or most likely be detected as singletons. If the hockey stick scenario is real, youngest years MUST NOT be mixed with the oldest years:

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The very first thing that becomes clear from Table [4] is that there are no two identical annual patterns in the Armagh dataset. The next things to notice is that up to EucDist of 80 all the annual patterns still remain as singletons, i.e. all the years are perceived to be unique with the minimum distance between any two pairs being at least 80. The first cluster is formed at EucDist=81 (d-81), consisting of only two years, 1844 and 1875. At EucDist 110, all the years have merged into a single cluster. Therefore, the overall profile of the dataset can be summarised as follows:

· All the years are unique up to EucDist of 80

· All the years are part of a single cluster, and therefore ‘similar’ at EucDist 110

Now we are in a position to quantify differences and similarities within the Armagh historical data.

The fact that any two years are distant by at least 80 in EucDist space while remaining singletons, translates into minimum average variations in daily readings of 3.14C between any two years in the database.

At the other extreme, all the years merge into a single cluster at EucDist of 110, and using the same back-calculation as has been done earlier for EucDist of 80, the average variation between daily readings of 4.32C is obtained.

The first place to look for the hockey stick’s signal is at the run with EucDist=100 which partitioned Armagh data into 6 clusters and 16 singletons and to check whether those 16 singletons come from the youngest 16 years:

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As we can see, those 16 singletons come from three different 50-years periods, 3 in 1844-1900 period, 5 in 1900-1949 period and 8 in 1950-1989 period. So, hockey stick scenario cannot be detected in singletons.

What about clusters – are any ‘clean’ clusters there, containing only youngest years in the dataset?

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No hockey stick could be found in clusters either! Years from 1990 to 2004 period have partitioned between 4 different clusters and each of those clusters was mixed with the oldest years in the set. Therefore the hockey stick hypothesis has to be rejected on bases of the clustering results.

Let me now introduce kNN algorithm which will give us even more information about the youngest years in dataset. Basic principle of kNN is very similar to my clustering algorithm but with one difference: dbclus can be seeing a un-biased view of your dataset where only similarity within a cluster drives the algorithm. kNN approach allows user to specify which datapoints are to be compared with which dataset. For example, to run the algorithm the following command is issued:

“kNN target.csv dataset.csv 100.00 3” which translates – run kNN on every datapoint in target.csv file against the dataset.csv file at EucDist=100.00 and find 3 nearest neighbours for each datapoint in the target.csv file”. So in our case, we will find 3 most similar annual patterns in entire Armagh dataset for 15 youngest years in the dataset:

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Let me pick few examples from Figure 8: year 1990 has the most similar annual patterns in years 1930, 1850 and 1880; supposedly the hottest year, 1998 is most similar to years 1850, 1848 and 1855, while 2004 is most similar to 1855, 2000 and 1998. So kNN approach not only confirms the clustering results, which it should since it uses the same distance calculation as dbclus, but it also identifies 3 most similar years to each of the 15 youngest years in Armagh. So, anyway you look at Armagh data, the same picture emerges: every single annual fingerprint is unique and different from any other; similarity between the years is very low; it is impossible to separate the oldest years from the youngest years and the magnitude of those differences in terms of temperatures are way outside the error levels of thermometer and therefore real. To put into context of hockey stick hypothesis – since we cannot separate oldest years from the youngest one in thermometer data it follows that whatever was causing daily variations in 1844 it is causing the same variations today. And that is not due to CO2 molecule.

Let us now ask a very valid question – is the methodology that I am using sensitive enough to detect some extreme events? First thing to bear in mind is that all that dbclus and kNN are doing is simply calculating distance between two patterns that are made of original readings – there is nothing inside those two bits of software that modify or adjust thermometer readings. Anyone can simply use two years from the Armagh data and calculate EucDist in excel and will come up with the same number that is reported in the paper, i.e. I am neither creating nor destroying hockey sticks inside the program, unlike some scientists whose names cannot be mentioned. While the primary objective of the cluster analysis and the main objective of the paper were to see whether hockey stick signal can be found in instrumental data, I have also look into the results to see whether any other unusual pattern can be found. One year that has ‘stubbornly’ refused to merge into the final cluster was year 1947, the same year that has been identified as ‘very unique’ in 6 different weather stations in UK, all at lower resolution than Armagh, either as monthly averages or Tmax/Tmin monthly averages. So what is so unusual about 1947? To do analysis I created two boundaries that define ‘normal’ ranges in statistical terms know as 2-sigma region and covers approximately 95% of the dataset and placed 1947 inside those two boundaries. Top of 2-sigma region is defined by adding 2 standard deviations to the mean and bottom by taking away 2 standard deviation from the mean. So any datapoints that venture outside 2-sigma boundaries is considered as ‘extreme’:

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As we can see, 1947 has most of February in 3 sigma cold region and most of August in 3 sigma hot region illustrating the problem with using abstract terms like abnormally hot or cold year. So is 1947 extremely hot or extremely cold or overall average year?

Let me finish this report with a simple computational experiment to further demonstrate what is so horribly wrong with man-made global warming hypothesis. Let us take a single day-fingerprint, in this case Tmax207 and use the last year, 2004 as an artificial point where the global (local) warming starts by adding 0.1C to 2004, then another 0.1C to the previous value and continue that for ten years. So the last year is 1C hotter than its starting point, 2004. When you now display daily patterns for 2004+10 artificial years that have been continuously warming at 0.1C rate you can immediately see a drastic change in the overall profile of day-fingerprints:

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What would be worrying, if Figure 10 is based on real data is that a very small but continuous warming trend of only 0.1C per annum would completely change the whole system from being chaotic and with large fluctuation into a very ordered linear system with no fluctuations at all.

So let me now summarise the whole paper: there is not a single experimental evidence of any alarming either warming or cooling in Armagh data, or in sampled data from two different continents, North American and Australia since not a single paper has been published, before this one, that analysis the only instrumental data that do exists – the thermometer data; we do not understand temperature patterns of the past or the present and therefore we cannot predict temperature patterns of the future; all temperature patterns across the globe are unique and local and everything presented in this paper confirms those facts. Every single aspect of man-made global warming is wrong and is based on large number of assumptions that cannot be made and arguments that cannot be validated: alarming trends are all within thermometer’s error levels and therefore have no statistical meaning; not a single paper has been published that have found alarming trends in thermometer data; and not a single paper has been published validating reduction of 730-dimensional and time dependent space into a single number.

Let me finish this report on a lighter note and suggest very cheap way of detecting arrival of global warming, if it ever does come to visit the Erath: let us stop funding any future work on global warming and instead simply monitor and record accuracy of next day temperatures instead! If you look at the above graph, it becomes obvious that once the next day temperature predictions become 100% accurate it will be clear and unequivocal sign that the global warming has finally arrived using following logic:

· chaotic system=no warming or cooling=0% next day prediction accuracy

· ordered-linear system=global warming=100% next day prediction accuracy

And let me leave you with two take-home messages:

· All knowledge is in instrumental data that can be validated and none in calculated data that can be validated only by yet another calculation

· We must listen to data and not force data to listen to us. As they say, if you torture data enough it will admit anything.

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Dr Darko Butina is retired scientist with 20 years of experience in experimental side of Carbon-based chemistry and 20 years in pattern recognition and datamining of experimental data. He was part of the team that designed the first effective drug for treatment of migraine for which the UK-based company received The Queens Award. Twenty years on and the drug molecule Sumatriptan has improved quality of life for millions of migraine sufferers worldwide. During his computational side of drug discovery, he developed clustering algorithm, dbclus that is now de facto standard for quantifying diversity in world of molecular structures and recently applied to the thermometer based archived data at the weather stations in UK, Canada and Australia. The forthcoming paper clearly shows what is so very wrong with use of invented and non-existing global temperatures and why it is impossible to declare one year either warmer or colder than any other year. He is also one of the co-authors of the paper which was awarded a prestigious Ebert Prize as best paper for 2002 by American Pharmaceutical Association. He is peer reviewer for several International Journals dealing with modelling of experimental data and member of the EU grants committee in Brussels.

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April 18, 2013 2:38 am

David Hoffer:
I’m not sure exactly what your beef is about this time. I agree with Ferd in that you normally address details in a discussion and not get hung up on semantics of whether an analogy is proper or not.
Forget the 3D planetary approach.
Forget the CO2 signature approach.
Both of these are suggestions, not absolutes.
I take Dr. Darko Butina’s post as a suggestion to start from scratch in analyzing temperature/weather data and building the metadata necessary to define the data/database parameters.
–A) Analyze the measurement device and define it’s parameters.
——a) For all comparisons over multiple time scales, the worst level of measurement accuracy is the comparison’s accuracy.
————1) This is mandatory for comparisons, averages, anomalies, etc.
–B) After defining measurement of temperature; start with one known record and analyze it.
——a) This doesn’t mean that Dr. Darko Butina’s method is the only analysis method; just that it is one of many approaches.
————-1) Understand just what the relationships are between all records in the database.
————-2) Identify all ranges; natural, unusual, extreme, outliers, etc.
–C) Move on to a second record, third, fourth, and so on.
——-a) Each analysis of a record builds the metadata, defines parameter extremes, accuracy bars.
——-b) Ideally this is where Anthony’s weather station model comes into play as the only way to get data from multiple stations worth analyzing is to ensure their methods, equipment, locations, siting, maintenance are identical.
At the end, what one is most likely to end up with is a realization that all current systems for measuring temperature/weather can not be used for the purposes they are used for. What one can do is make very general statements. (e.g. “It sure is cold today Mikey” “Ayup, it’s cold here too Phil”).
Yeah, it’s great to look at the end of a lengthy statistical mumbo jumbo mega-averaging and ask about error bars… What Dr. Butina is inferring is that we do not even take the error bars of the base data or record into consideration first. GIGO is GIGO whether you’ve processed it a thousand times or looked at the basic system and realized the data is useless for CAGW alarmist intentions before further processing.
This doesn’t make any of your qualms incorrect David. But I understand where Dr. Butina’s method helps define/build the required metadata and what that metadata means for all of the team’s fanciful AGW dodges.

Chuck Nolan
April 18, 2013 2:39 am

Roger Sowell says:
April 17, 2013 at 9:01 pm
Dr. Butina, I have plotted thermometer records for nearly 90 US cities at the link below.
http://sowellslawblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/usa-cities-hadcrut3-temperatures.html?m=0
Roger Sowell
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I liked it until I noticed you hid your results by using different scaling for each graph?
No apples to apples comparison.
cn

peter azlac
April 18, 2013 3:07 am

Bravo Dr Butina for shedding some much needed light into the murky world of “climate science” that requires inventive statistics to make the points required by the IPCC CAGW myth.
Like you, I am a retired scientist (an agricultural scientist) who learned science in the days before desktop computers with statistical programs became available to allow the data mining activities that pervade climate science, in fact at about the same time that Lorenz was coming up with chaos theory. Agricultural science is one of the first areas for which statistics was developed by Fisher among others. At that time, we only had hand turned mechanical calculators so had to be very careful how we designed our experiments if they were ever to be analyzed – this later extended to the use of mainframe computers where time and cost limited usage.
I was struck by your comment:
“So if you want to find whether there is correlation between CO2 and temperatures, you don’t calculate but you measure daily concentrations of CO2 at the same place where the thermometer is. And what you will find is that it is not there since and cannot be there since it would violate all gas laws.”
As a young scientist I first worked on an agricultural research station in Africa where, as a member of the team on a new research station, we made a modest contribution to the “Green Revolution” of that era that disproved the earlier Malthusian alarm of that time claiming that the increasing population would lead to starvation and death in underdeveloped countries – much like the current IPCC alarm. In fact, through the application of science and well designed experiments we increased grain production 20 fold as well as high performance from many other crops. We did so through a combination of selecting crops and matching them to soil types combined with the use of fossil fuels in the form of diesel for cultivations plus fertilizers and agro chemicals.
What we did that is relevant in terms of your pattern recognition program is that we defined our local climates – we had three; lowland, midland and upland with different temperature and rainfall profiles – and then matched them via the Koppen classification with similar areas around the World. The data we used can be seen in the Armagh records – rainfall, sunshine hours and temperature, plus where available Class A Pan Evaporation data. These were taken from agricultural research stations that have such data. The result was that we were able to successfully introduce many crops into the local agriculture in a matter of a couple of years: cotton, tobacco, rice and citrus from the USA, pineapples from Australia, maize from the then Rhodesia, sugar cane from S Africa etc.
One of my roles was to handle the meteorological data and since then I have been convinced that the only relevant way to monitor climate change is by creating similar data to that which we used for all the Koppen climate zones and monitor the rate at which climate boundaries are changing and take appropriate action – temperature alone is not a sufficient metric and especially not a global average. This suggests to me that your algorithm can be used for this purpose if the data used is extended beyond temperature and that in fact in climate studies it should be.
Frank Lasner with his Ruti project is doing work in this direction and whilst his “zones” are not directly linked to the Koppen-Geiger zones he is finding substantial differences that support a more detailed study.

Jessie
April 18, 2013 4:32 am

Thank you Dr. Butina. so well explained and interesting, though I am still working through the maths.
As I understand, you are focussed on specificity.
Monckton focussed on sensitivity.
Not well stated, but… to measure the proposed phenomena the choice/appropriateness of the instrument (specificity) is as important as the instrument to measure accurately (sensitivity).

Jessie
April 18, 2013 4:34 am
KenB
April 18, 2013 4:43 am

Ryan says:
April 18, 2013 at 2:18 am
Gave you a thumbs down with your attempt purely because a leo can be born in either the Summer or Winter depending upon where they are born, unless your world is seasonally indifferent!! (wink)

Stacey
April 18, 2013 5:38 am

Thank you Dr Butina.
So what would be the findings if you adopted the same approach and compared various actual temperatures for the last thirty plus years with the Lower Troposphere Temperatures as discussed in a later post by Dr Spencer?

April 18, 2013 5:53 am

Chuck Nolan
“I liked it until I noticed you hid your results by using different scaling for each graph?
No apples to apples comparison.”
I did not hide any results. The graphs’ scaling was to show each graph as clearly as possible.
I was interested only in the slope of the least-squared trend line for each city. That slope is shown in black at the upper right corner of each graph as the equation Y = nnnn X + B, where the slope is “nnnn.”
What the results show is that some cities have zero warming, which agrees with Dr. Butina’s result in this article. Some US cities show a cooling, a negative slope to the trend line.
If CO2 was responsible for warming, it must warm adjacent cities; but, it does not. One can compare many pairs of cities to see this, for example, Shreveport and St. Louis. Shreveport is not warming but St. Louis is warming.

Robany Bigjobz
April 18, 2013 6:52 am

Dr Butina, I find your analysis interesting but there are some aspects I have not yet got a handle on. More thought is required but there are some things that would bolster your argument that your approach is the correct one.
You claim that your method does not detect any hockey stick in the temperature data of Armagh. This point would be greatly strengthened by demonstrating that it does, in fact, detect a hockey stick (or an underlying trend) when such has been placed in the data artificially. By this I mean choosing a yearly change in temperature over time and adding this value to every single measurement in the relevant year e.g. leave all Armagh data 1844 – 1984 alone and add an additional 0.02C/year to each subsequent year’s data. This meets your own criterion of requiring every day to be warmer for a year to be considered warmer. This, unlike your rather unphysical approach in figure 10, would preserve the chaotic nature of the day to day and year to year variations but provide a defined, albeit synthetic, warming signal. If, and only if, your method detects and identifies this synthetic signal can you realistically claim that the lack of detection in the raw data means lack of signal.

Chuck Nolan
April 18, 2013 7:22 am

Roger Sowell says:
April 18, 2013 at 5:53 am
Chuck Nolan
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No negative critique intended Roger, the graphs are great. I was just looking for visual aides to demonstrate the alarm is overblown and I think your graphs are the right idea.
My point was the graphs use different scaling but to get a quick layman’s eyeball view I would need the temperature readings and time line of each graph to match.
Otherwise, I understand your motive and I agree with you.
cn

Greg House
April 18, 2013 7:25 am

davidmhoffer says (April 17, 2013 at 8:42 pm): “But at night, when incoming insolation falls to zero, a cloud keeps earth surface warmer than it would otherwise be.”
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No, such a process does not exist. Back radiation from clouds can not affect the temperature of the source which is the Earth surface. This is physically impossible.

rilfeld
April 18, 2013 7:50 am

There is a second, potentially different set of data points that might graph in an interesting fashion: For a given geographical location, the latest frost in the spring and earliest frost in the fall. The derivation of days between might be labelled “growing season”. I believe this data is contained in the raw temperature set daily minimum. The interval is neither imprecise nor an average. My guess is no hockey sticks, as the crop yield changes for crops grown on the margin would be obvious, the the yields and commodity price curves would be unlikely to escape attention as both are watched closely.

Greg House
April 18, 2013 8:01 am

Darko,
The point in your article about “global warming” being within the uncertainty of the thermometer measurements is very good and actually sufficient to debunk the whole thing. The other point about switch-overs between years is not quite relevant. You have actually demonstrated that in purely physical sense one can not say “a warmer year”, but the same goes for “warmer days” too, this is obvious, therefore there was no need to make all the comparisons between years.
Another point was about switch-overs. It was irrelevant either, because the switch-overs do not matter. Let me give you a simple example to illustrate that. Imagine a group of 365 people and you give them apples every day for many years, each year 1 apple more altogether. Regardless how the apples are distributed between them and how many switch-overs there are between years, they get together 1 apple more each year which is equal 1/365 apple per year more on average. This is what the “global warming” is about. So, the “global warming” thing is wrong, but for other reasons and not because of switch-overs or because of ambiguity of the term.

P Wilson
April 18, 2013 8:08 am

Yes. I am terrified that I will frazzle if the temperature here in the UK reaches 9.2C in March. Mind you, this march just gone was 7.1C, well below the average of 8.5, and the year before, a whopping 10.4C average – 3.4C above the 1981-2010 average.
In either case, in the space of a few years these so called nominal anomalies are greater than 0.7C, though the favourable years was when it was at least above this hypothetical (alleged/nominal) 0.7C, for crops, growing, and all sorts of other beneficial factors

Greg House
April 18, 2013 8:09 am

davidmhoffer says (April 17, 2013 at 10:58 pm): “CO2 doubling doesn’t change temperature. It changes w/m2. W/m2 in turn changes temperature.”
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LOL. It is like saying “Mr.Smith did not killed Mrs.Smith. He just pulled the trigger and then the bullet killed Mrs.Smith. We plea not guilty, your honor.”

Greg House
April 18, 2013 8:29 am

darkobutina says (April 18, 2013 at 12:42 am): “So if you want to find whether there is correlation between CO2 and temperatures, you don’t calculate but you measure daily concentrations of CO2 at the same place where the thermometer is. And what you will find is that it is not there since and cannot be there since it would violate all gas laws.”
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Well, this is very wrong, I am sorry. There is such a thing like wind, it can bring warmer or colder air from other places, so you can not expect such a correlation, even if there was a warming effect of CO2.
I do not see a violation of gas laws either. Gases have different thermal capacities, so you can get different temperatures depending on the gas mixture. The real warming effect of CO2 might be like 0.0001C, that is all, and it is not what the IPCC calls “greenhouse effect”. They mean that CO2 warms the surface by returning some “back radiation”. Such a warming is physically impossible. But this has nothing to do with correlations.

April 18, 2013 8:52 am

From Darko Butina
My website darkobutina@l4patterns.com is now live and the paper discussed here, plus my clustering algorithm are available in PDF format for free viewing.

Robany Bigjobz
April 18, 2013 8:56 am

Something else to consider:
Imagine a year with a constant base temperature of 10C (arbitrary) with a superimposed sinusoidal variation of amplitude 4C and period 2 weeks. Now imagine the following year has a constant base temperature of 12C (bigger than the thermometer’s accuracy) with the same sinusoidal variation. We can all agree that this second year is hotter than the first.
Finally imagine a third year with a constant base temperature of 12C but this time put a 90 degree phase shift onto the sinusoid to make it a cosine before superimposing it. The third year has days that are hotter than the same day in the first and some days that are cooler. By your definition, Dr Butina, the third year is not hotter than the first but the second year is. However, the total heat content of the air in the second and third years is equal but only one is considered hotter according to you. It would seem to me that your definition of “hotter” is highly phase sensitive and thus possibly invalid. I think most people would agree that year 3 was hotter than year 1. With sunlight, precipitation, etc, held constant, I would suggest most temperate-region vegetation would do grow the same amount in years 2 and 3 while growing more than in year 1.
This is not to say that your pattern recognition methods are invalid or to defend blind use of statistics. However your complete dismissal of any form of aggregation of data, whether by means or otherwise, puts you at odds with many people’s instinctive concept of hotter and real world observations such as plant growth.

Darko Butina
April 18, 2013 9:27 am

Apologies, website is http://www.l4patterns.com and contact email darkobutina@l4patterns.com

davidmhoffer
April 18, 2013 9:31 am

Darko;
Thanks for clarifying what you meant. However, you are still applying a technique that was applicable to your purposes in chemistry/biology to a physics problem where it is not.

davidmhoffer
April 18, 2013 1:36 pm

Robany Bigjobz says:
April 18, 2013 at 8:56 am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well articulated.

Chuck Nolan
April 18, 2013 3:15 pm

Rhoda R says:
April 17, 2013 at 1:47 pm
I have to agree AC. One of the recurring problems has been the naive approach to data.
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One of the problems is the failure to hold data sacrosanct. Instead it is treated as a good starting point then changed as deemed necessary to match the model’s errors.
cn

Ryan
April 19, 2013 2:05 am

@KenB: “Gave you a thumbs down with your attempt purely because a leo can be born in either the Summer or Winter depending upon where they are born, unless your world is seasonally indifferent!! (wink)”
Well that’s fair enough, but since the Greeks weren’t aware of differences in the timing of the seasons south of the Equator (or indeed the fact that the Southern Hemisphere sees entirely different constellations) can we say that the star-signs are specific to the Northern Hemisphere only?
Which begs an interesting question that has never occured to me before, do Kiwis and Australians have any faith in Northern Hemisphere astrology at all? Maybe they are waiting for a southern Hemisphere version to be released…..

Mark Aurel
April 19, 2013 5:58 am

Which begs an interesting question that has never occured to me before, do Kiwis and Australians have any faith in Northern Hemisphere astrology at all? Maybe they are waiting for a southern Hemisphere version to be released…..

Silly question.
Of course we do.
What makes you think the southern hemisphere people are less gullible than the rest?

Gail Combs
April 19, 2013 6:08 am

I want to thank Dr. Darko Butina. He has used an elegant mathematical proof to summarize the objections I have had with way the temperature data was handled by the Climate Claque.
He even explained it well enough that I had no problem understanding what he is doing, even though my math and statistics are a bit rusty. Therefore I find it surprising that others do not see what he is saying. He has simply asked the DATA the question.
“Are the temperature readings from the latest few years different from the rest of the years?”
The RAW DATA has not only answered NO! it has answered NO! by two different methods–both based on sound mathematical principles.
I also want to also thank Dr. Darko Butina for doing the research that allowed him to say:

” BTW, I am not sure whether anyone has realised that not only a paper that analyse thermometer data has not been written by AGW community, but also not a single paper has been written that validates conversion of Graph 1 to Graph 2 – NOT A SINGLE PAPER! I have quite good idea, actually I am certain why that is the case but will let reader make his/her mind about that most unusual approach to inventing new proxy-thermometer without bothering to explain to wider scientific community validity of the whole process.”