Travel today. So by request, here is a Weekend Open Thread on Thatcher, who did much to kick off the CO2 global warming saga but later on became a sceptic and regretted her actions. My favorite quote (supposedly attributed to her) from Thatcher is about consensus:
“consensus is an absence of leadership”
So true.
Along the same lines, it is such a shame that the left treats her service so poorly by making an artificial push in song popularity, a false consensus if you will, to make “Ding Dong The Witch is Dead” #1 in Britain so that the BBC will have to play it on BBC Radio1. Such cheap shots speak to the integrity of their political convictions. Fortunately, the BBC decided that they had a shred of integrity left and chose not to play the clip in full. Still, it is a cheap shot.
Plus, discuss anything else within the limits of blog policy.
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Again, another crash…? What crash? Did the Repubs get back in office? Sounds like some are looking forwards to it. You will get your wish if Libertariatards get power. Let the banksters run wild! Creating more and more inequality of wealth and more child poverty. But you who salivate over the deal already know that.
Ric Werme says:
April 14, 2013 at 3:07 pm
With the ansoft hfss, Sorry I wasn’t clear
The ‘preppers’, always the preppers … remember the Great Depression? Extended by at least a decade owing to that good ‘republican’ FDR … /sarc
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It was cleaned up quickly. And it was built in the late 1940s. Presumably modern pipelines are sturdier.
Re Lady Thatcher, I was interested to listen in to Any answers on Radio 4 in which the listeners’ phone-in response to Any Questions was, on Saturday, entirely about Thatcher’s legacy. Not only that but it was heavily weighted on the negative side. Is this Radio 4’s left-wing policy at work again? If so it’s a bit obvious isn’t it?
“_Jim says:
April 14, 2013 at 1:05 pm”
The primary objective for setting up the BoE was to pay for the British war machine. It morphed over time.
“_Jim says:
April 14, 2013 at 12:21 pm”
So you do understand system tuning. And yet you leave your “disk/memory performance issues” to MS Windows?
thursa:
Your post at April 15, 2013 at 9:24 am asks
I am a severe critic of BBC bias – especially its bias on AGW – but I think it unlikely that this phone -in was biased. It probably reflected the proportions of pro and anti views being phoned in.
As I explained in my above post at
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/04/13/weekend-open-thread-6/#comment-1274534
the policies of the Thatcher government created ‘winners’ and ‘losers’.
Those who benefited are not likely to phone in to boast about it.
Those who suffered – or who grew up in a family that suffered – are likely to be emotionally motivated to phone in to vent their feelings.
Hence, the phone-in was likely to obtain many more negative calls than positive calls whether or not most people feel positively towards the Thatcher legacy.
Please note that – whether or not they are a small minority – there are very many people who feel severe resentment about the effects of Thatcher’s policies upon them, the families they grew-up in, and/or their towns. The idea that these people are a small number of extreme left activists is refuted by the facts. Such extremists do not inhabit entire streets, and in some towns street parties are being organised to celebrate the funeral of Baroness Thatcher.
Hence, it seems likely that the phone-in represented the proportions of pro and anti views which were phoned in. But that indicates nothing about the proportions of pro and anti views in the country as a whole.
Richard
Richard, I lived in England most of my life and I disagree! the BBc is by the left for the left and most of what they do is very skewed to the left and they preach to the choir (how Top Gear came to be there is a mystery, I realise big money keeps it there) in reality most people had their lives improved by her, she would only change her mind, and at least twice she very publicly did, when the real facts spoke for themselves, name any other world leader thus principled? I would expect socialist rhetoric from the BBC and the clowns in radio4 are not a typical cross section in any sense (outside the AGW world)
Chris
Chris Edwards:
re your post at April 15, 2013 at 7:13 pm.
Much of what you say is pure opinion some of which I share (e.g. BBC bias).
However, I don’t think it is reasonable to state dubious opinions as facts. For example, you say of Thatcher
In the immediate term that was certainly NOT true. Unemployment and inflation soared. Most people suffered a lowering of their living standards.
She won re-election by buying votes and because the opposition Labour Party was in hopeless disarray and unelectable.
Considering the longer term, it can be debated as to whether peoples lives would have been mostly better or mostly worse if Thatcher’s changes had not been imposed. That cannot be known. Opinions and values will define opinion of it.
However, it is certain that many people had their lives severely damaged by Thatcher’s policies. Indeed, she targeted sections of society as being what she called “the enemy within” and she tried – with some success – to destroy them, their communities and their way of life. It should surprise nobody that they resent her and her policies.
Richard
Richard, when you consider the fact the union terrorists and their political wing the Labour party had destroyed a large part of the modern industry (consumer electronics, car manufacture, railways, British Road Services,semi-conductors and more) and her policies got a huge number back to work, dot mention the death of some steelworks and mines, had they been allowed to wither naturally the pain would have been less and how many mines were deliberately flooded by the unions blocking the maintenance? as for targeting communities what tosh, sure some mining communities were gutted but Ive covered that, what about the corner shops that closed wholesale due the the labour tax on jobs (go on question it!) the country was being run by IMF auditors after they bailed us out socialist policies can only lead to poverty and ruin for the working man and Wilson was no exception but oh boy was he wealthy when he was done with us! So I am correct most people (although would not admit it) were better of because of her, even if it was only because of the disaster of the labour miss management (and I doubt that was accidental, look at the USA Obama could be Wilsons son!)