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Traveling today, so post on any relevant topic.
Traveling today, so post on any relevant topic.
“Mooloo says:
March 3, 2013 at 1:35 am”
Last time I checked sharks were not bread in captivity for human consumption, unlike the animals you list. Unlike the animals you list sharks are the “scavengers” of the sea. The animals you list are not. The animals you list are, slaughtered, in a humane way in NZ (So we are told). And there are people who fish shark, cut off the fins, and then the rest is discarded because “Shark Fin Soup” is such a delicacy.
I understand the loss, but the “victim” (Must have known?) knew the risks, albeit rare.
andrewmharding says:
March 3, 2013 at 2:35 am
” Or am I missing something?”
No, you aren’t. The Runaway Global Warming theory is junk; we should see localized runaway warming already and all the time in places with an ample supply of moisture and CO2 and high temperatures – as diurnal variations are far bigger than the expected Global Warming to 2100.
Instead, we see thunderstorms followed by a cooling. The Global Warming conjecture is obviously not factual.
RE: Kelvin Vaughan says:
March 3, 2013 at 3:00 am
I’d be interested in the results of Anthony’s experiment as well. I’m not against experiments, and I’m thinking of trying out a solar-powered electric fence for my far pasture to keep my rowdy goats at bay.
However Europe’s “experiment” is based on what seems to me to be psuedo science, and in some ways reminds me of the “science” of Trofim Lysenko. If my personal experiment fails I only harm myself (and my neighbor’s roses, which my goats occationally like to sample.) Europe’s experiment is hurting millions with “fuel poverty” which is completely avoidable.
Interested in learning more about liquid thorium reactors (LTR). Have visited here http://energyfromthorium.com/ and one of their proponents of using LTRs is of course less CO2 emitted. Anyone else aware of research in this field? Will check back later now I’m off to the PDAC mining show to perhaps see Mr. McIntyre and find out what the hell is happening to all my gold stocks—sigh
Ian H said “Animal Rights activists hound a police officer who shot a 4 metre greater white shark that killed a man and was eating his body”.
I notice the BBC has just pronounced that “The most accurate assessment to date of the impact of commercial fishing on sharks suggests around 100 million [sharks] are being killed each year …”
source – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-21629173
I think there has to be something suspect about these BBC figures – unless Willis has been working double shifts again ;-). Where are all the bodies – sharks are about 5 meters long so 100 million of them end-to end would stretch 500,000 Km, about 10 times round the equator!
However, if one accepts the BBC figures the Animal Rights activists were complaining about 0.01 millionths of the annual commercial cull. Rather less than the proportion of CO2 in the atmosphere – but I suppose one has to start somewhere!
From Bishop Hill “The Great Still”
“Commenters have been noting the preposterously low output of the wind fleet at the moment – currently generating about 0.4GW or a tenth of one percent of demand.”
http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2013/3/2/the-great-still.html
“The environmentalist argument is that by use of smart grids we can import wind power generated in other parts of Europe ”
One big problem
“a look at the current windspeed map for Europe suggests there may be a flaw in this plan”
Latest global temperature update is out, plus some interesting comments from Roy Spencer on the jump in UAH during January.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/03/03/global-temp-updatesjan-2013/
Jimbo says:
March 2, 2013 at 3:20 pm
Get ready for more (missing) climate refugees. 3,2,1……………..
US Generals warn of climate change dangers
“If we have difficulty figuring out how to deal with immigration today, look at the prospects for the glacial retreats in the Andes,” said R. James Woolsey, former head of the CIA, at an event to launch the letter.
“The glaciers are not doing well…If that starts to go away, we will have millions upon millions of southern neighbours hungry, thirsty, with crops failing and looking for some place in the world they can go,” he said.
http://www.rtcc.org/us-generals-warn-of-climate-change-dangers/
Did I see the CIA? The very Central Unintelligent Agency that worried about the dangers of global cooling in the 1970s? Surely not, I must be having hallucinations.
How on Earth can the US of A produce such imbeciles?
ANSWER: Public education
michaelwiseguy says:
March 3, 2013 at 1:21 am
[i]Even Huffington Post, one of the biggest promoters of Global Warming , is questioning man-made Climate Blame;
” As for Planet Earth, a paper published Thursday in the journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution suggests that while human society does a very thorough job of modifying and, often enough, permanently and abruptly changing the dynamics of local and regional ecosystems, the collective impact of all this on a planetary scale is too often overstated. ”[/i]
Tipping Points: Can Humanity Break The Planet?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-zeller-jr/global-tipping-points_b_2793154.html#comments
Read the comments. One blogger might have spoken some sense, but the thousand and more comments indicate that the audience at Huffington is not buying it.
Can anyone point me to a place where I can get the graph of actual global temperature over recent time with the four IPCC reports’ best estimates each starting on that line and then the predictions all tracking well above the measured temps?
About ten years ago Walter Munk published a paper in Science that suggested the distribution of tidal stations provided an upward bias on sea level trend measurements. In effect he found the distribution of tidal stations was overly sensitive to ocean thermal expansion. I have wondered similarly if most global data sets, including things like GCN, ARGO and the ocean level measuring satellites, do not possess unresolved or even unrecognized biases. We are looking at rather small signals in most cases in which very small bias has a major impact.
Out of consideration for the WUWT community that enjoys reading and writing comments here, I’d like to ask a general opinion question.
When trolls such as JP or Martin A. show up on Willis’s autobiography threads to take a dump, would you rather see them answered or ignored?
Clearly, after the upteenth repetition of
or similar verbiage, it’s clear that anyone who raises the ‘what’s the relevance of this how does this relate to climate’ is either not paying attention or is perfectly aware of the disclaimer and is just looking for a fight or to be disruptive. I hate giving a troll what he wants. I argue with the c/AGW climate trolls because I refuse to allow their drivel to go unanswered and I’ve got no particular intention of stopping that, short of a direct request from our host or his mods, but in this case, these guys obviously want a fight and nothing much else. They aren’t really out to make any particular point. Being the agreeable fellow that I am (/sarc), I’m always glad to have an argument, but consideration for others trying to enjoy the comments on the thread gives me pause when I feel inclined to open fire.
So what do you guys think? Ignore them or let’em have it? I don’t promise to follow the advice you give, but I’d be grateful to hear it nonetheless.
Best regards to the WUWT community in general,
Mark
Caleb says:
March 3, 2013 at 5:17 am
RE: Kelvin Vaughan says:
March 3, 2013 at 3:00 am
I’d be interested in the results of Anthony’s experiment as well. I’m not against experiments, and I’m thinking of trying out a solar-powered electric fence for my far pasture to keep my rowdy goats at bay.
However Europe’s “experiment” is based on what seems to me to be psuedo science, and in some ways reminds me of the “science” of Trofim Lysenko. If my personal experiment fails I only harm myself (and my neighbor’s roses, which my goats occationally like to sample.) Europe’s experiment is hurting millions with “fuel poverty” which is completely avoidable.
Have you seen these Caleb?
http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/nwopopcnsaglobal2000report10mar81.shtml
http://green-agenda.com/globalrevolution.htmlhttp://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread382968/pg1
http://www.infowars.com/club-of-rome-behind-eco-fascist-purge-to-criminalize-climate-skepticism/
Ian H and the shark attack.
self abnegation, of ones own kind and ultimately oneself, is an emergent property of liberalism.
In the USA an incident has just occurred at a school where a pupil brandished a loaded gun and threatened yet another multiple shooting. He was tackled by two other, unarmed students and no one was hurt.
The two unarmed students have now been suspended and are under investigation.
…how about (as someone else has suggested above) they attend to real animal cruelty.
I dont mean the Chinese “alternative medicine” industry keeping bears in cages compressed like the hoaxe cube-cat (evil, sick and worthy of attention though that be)…no I refer to cruelty against another animal, human beings. Gender, female. Millions of whom have their external genitalia sliced off and sewn shut every year.
Indeed, if Eco-Warriors really gave a shit for human well-being there are too many horrors in the present to allow them the luxury of agonising over a hypothetical future.
Just watched the BBC/UK Met forecast for 5 days ahead with a review of the winter 12/13. Rain 105%, sun 98% ” all normal” and temperatures 0.4C below normal quote “just a nudge”. Funny that. 0.4C above we are all going to die, stop driving the car and heating the house. 0.4C below “just a nudge”. What scumbags.
TimC…Re figures on BBC, there is a tendency among those who work in the media to add or subtract magnitudes according to what “seems” right onthe basis of, well, what exactly but ignorant assumption. The funniest is when orbital vehicles are occasionally referred to as travelling at about 1,700 mph, because I suppose 17000 mph…well that just cannot be can it!
Editors are among the worst. I once referred in an item to someone being “interred” (literally, in the earth, buried, dead) and my editor changed it to “interned”.
Bad enough once, but in an otherwise excellent book, Disasters in Manned Spaceflight by David Shayler (presumably not THE David Shayler, as this one knew some things) there were dozens of these editing idiocies, including that Yurui Gagarin was “interned” in a wall.
First [the] asteroid, now a comet (in N. H. visible 8. do 24 March) never seen by any human before
Wamron said: Editors are among the worst. I once referred in an item to someone being “interred” (literally, in the earth, buried, dead) and my editor changed it to “interned”.
Thanks Wamron – not being a journalist of any kind I didn’t realise the sort of thing you mention happened: I thought it was just sloppiness with figures!
I did like your “interred” example – reminds me of a wonderful Limerick I heard many years ago (Mods – just a little slack please!):
“There was a young fellow from Ryde,
Who fell down a sewer and died.
The next day his brother
fell down another,
and now they’re interred side by side.”
Says it all really …!
There was a young lady from Ryde.
She ate some green apples and died.
The apples fermented
Inside the lamented
And made cider inside her insides.
TIMC…I am not a “proper” journalist, but I was a magazine columnist. My experience of that period and the “characters” on the publication have added substance to my general observations of the MSM. I typically think of the time that, rather than phone or E-mail me about my writing, the editor made up a comment from a fictitious reader to put in the “readers letters” section, which at that time, literally contained only fabricated letters from invented people.
Did I miss Anthony’s follow up article about the CRN VS. COOP weather station difference in January?