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Traveling today, so post on any relevant topic.
Traveling today, so post on any relevant topic.
On Friday, NYTimes.com announced: “The Times is discontinuing the Green blog, which was created to track environmental and energy news and to foster lively discussion of developments in both areas.” The reality must be that people don’t read it, and people simply don’t find global warming a scintillating subject. So much for the notion it’s the “story of the century.”
It appears that rank political activism has moved into the “fringe science” movements. This may be a clever move to co-opt even what it views as “pseudo-science” in order to track the sociological circulation of the popularity of beliefs and direct them towards the solutions discussed on this thread:
http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/pollution_sacrifice_democracy.png.
That is, the Global Cooling/Global Warming/Sustainability scientific doomsday merchants.
(By rank political activism, I also mean the effort to use science, fear, and youthful naivite to bring down important sectors of the economy, and to push the agenda of the World Economic Forum and the World Bank.)
This is a highly utilitarian and extremely aggressive movement, which does not permit differences or dissent, or varying points of view, even within so-called “alternative” science. All science, and all pseudo-science as well, must serve the doctrines of the collectivists. It is a brutal and rude bunch that quickly polices the discussions, even in “alternative science.” I have been attacked, cussed at and banned by these people several times now, where there used to be respected differences.
Double peak or a bunch of spikes …
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2013/01mar_twinpeaks
There is a great article on CNN that puts the energy debate into sharp perspective:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/01/world/cnnheroes-solar-suitcase/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
A cholera outbreak in the Congo resulted in 0 deaths at a local hospital rather than the usual 50% death rate. The difference? Solar powered lighting that allowed doctors to diagnose and treat patients even when it was dark out. They didn’t even have enough beds in the hospital, 15 of them were outside on the ground. Just the presence of that one light source for that one brief period in time saved lives, a lot of lives.
Can you imagine the difference in quality of life, infant mortality, and longevity if they had cheap power 24×7 to produce light on demand, sterilize medical instruments, provide safe drinking water and so much more?
But in order to “save” them, the “do gooders” want to sentence them to short miserable life spans.
Food for the mind: Once you reject logic (truth) and distort the facts to accommodate your theory you will in time run into many problems. You will have to fabricate the ‘facts’ to support your theory. Usually your credibility will go down with it. An open mind with a penchant for truth always has to be adopted. If the theory becomes the predominate part of your mind set then that is one of the first mistakes. If you are continually confronted with facts and information which is challenging and possibly disproving your theory you will have to make adjustments, like distorting the information or reject the fact as you perceive them to be wrong. A disaster awaits. If you reject proper logic and train your mind to function that way, you are really becoming illogical, then you have entered into delusional territory. You are in fact interfering with your cognitive process. Or worse you are tampering with how you mind processes information which will have huge negative repercussions.
Once money becomes a major influence in science it corrupts the process and ceases to become true science. How many great scientific discoveries have been made on a shoe-string budget.
If an accountant or banker fudges the figures to cover his indulgences he will eventually get caught and convicted. The global warming propagandists get found out, caught cooking the books but it doesn’t matter‼! There is no accountability. Where does that leave science?
I believe this is why some people will hang on to what theory they want regardless of the facts (truth).
Texas is a right-minded red state, where patriotism is still a virtue and political correctness is out of vogue. So how on earth have left-wing educators in public classrooms been allowed to instruct Lone Star students to dress in Islamic garb, call the 9/11 jihadists “freedom fighters” and treat the Boston Tea Party participants as “terrorists”?
Here’s the dirty little secret: Despite the best efforts of vigilant parents, teachers and administrators committed to academic excellence, progressive activists reign supreme in government schools.
http://michellemalkin.com/2013/03/01/rotten-to-the-core-part-iii-lessons-from-texas-and-the-growing-grassroots-revolt/
It seems like fighting the Common Core is a David vs. Goliath proposition. It’s even more frustrating when the Common Core was approved behind closed doors and implemented without public knowledge. It’s frustrating when the media hardly discusses it, and when they do it’s typically slanted in favor of the Common Core. It’s disheartening to see all of the big money lining up behind the Common Core. Today I had a parent in Arkansas contact me. Arkansas, like my home state of Iowa, has adopted the Common Core with zero public input and is currently doing nothing about it.
http://truthinamericaneducation.com/common-core-state-standards/how-to-fight-the-common-core/
Other Andy
Thank you for your reply
The value I have for sea level rise is about 3.1mm yr-1 and a GIA of about 0.3 mm yr-1
+ or – about 50% Not large enough to account for what I am describing.
Are there figures for total volume of glacial melt?
I read one study where the rise of sea level may be 42% from run off from land (not melt)
I personally believe one of the worst outcomes of the this whole AGW venture is that we will be overlooking what are serious problems. None more that water: where it is, where it isn’t and what is in it. The water table is definitely getting lower due to usage, In Minnesota (here) there is significantly more rapid run off due to land usage. For a long time requests have been made in southern US regions to pipe water from the Great Lakes and elsewhere. It does not make the news unless it is somehow associated with climate change.
I ran across an interesting set of videos from the Santa Fe Conference regarding the science of climate. Not even video on the page is from the conference, but down toward the bottom of the page you’ll see the videos from the conference.
http://www.youtube.com/user/ccb5649/videos
Look for: Third Santa Fe Conference on Global and Regional Climate Variability, October 31-November 4, 2011.
Of interest is the videos where several of the scientists address the IPCC assumptions regarding “Climate Change” and why they feel the assumptions are flawed.
davidmhoffer says, March 2, 2013 at 7:40 pm: “There is a great article on CNN that puts the energy debate into sharp perspective: http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/01/world/cnnheroes-solar-suitcase/index.html?hpt=hp_c2
A cholera outbreak in the Congo resulted in 0 deaths at a local hospital rather than the usual 50% death rate. The difference? Solar powered lighting that allowed doctors to diagnose and treat patients even when it was dark out. They didn’t even have enough beds in the hospital, 15 of them were outside on the ground. Just the presence of that one light source for that one brief period in time saved lives, a lot of lives.
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The story is a complete BS: “…At night, Stachel said, the doctor would take the solar suitcase outside and use it to tend to his patients and treat them with intravenous medications.” To treat cholera no expensive solar suitcase is necessary, a flashlight is absolutely sufficient (e.g. this one for $3.95 http://www.amazon.com/Kaito-KA5LED-Dynamo-5-LED-Flashlight/dp/B000E3WIA8/ref=cm_lmf_img_5/175-1365934-5978433), provided you have the necessary medicament. If you do not have the necessary medicament, no light will help, because you can not treat the patients at all without the medicament.
This is how the cholera treatment is described on the WHO site: “Cholera is an easily treatable disease. The prompt administration of oral rehydration salts to replace lost fluids nearly always results in cure. In especially severe cases, intravenous administration of fluids may be required to save the patient’s life. Left untreated, however, cholera can kill quickly following the onset of symptoms. …”.
DarrylB says:
March 2, 2013 at 3:07 pm
Anyone care to comment on what seems to me to be a paradox?
It would be my guess that sea level isn’t rising as reported. Measuring sea level change is one of the most difficult parameters of this planet to quantify. Frankly, I don’t trust it. There is no paradox if the measurement is simply wrong.
Ian H says:
March 2, 2013 at 1:20 pm
Animal Rights activists hound a police officer who shot a 4 metre greater white shark that killed a man and was eating his body.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8374184/Shark-shooting-cop-goes-into-hiding
Only an animal rights activist could hear of a man being killed by a shark and have more sympathy for the shark than the man.
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That police officer is a brave man.
You notice the activists are not offering themselves as shark food or polar bear bait.
“Ian H says:
March 2, 2013 at 1:20 pm”
I don’t support the activities of these animal rights activists (I wish they would focus on real animal cruelty problems in the world – I can show you a video that would haunt you for life, it certainly has me), but the Police Officer really didn’t need to shoot (And kill?) the shark. A human body, splashing about, in the sea, wearing a wetsuit looks like dinner (Seal) to a shark.
Please read a load of this horsesh*t. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2013/mar/01/climate-sceptics-capture-bloggies-science
Interesting blog post here?
http://blogs.24.com/henryp/2013/03/01/where-is-your-faith/
Other_Andy says: March 2, 2013 at 3:28 pm
@DarrylB Have you taken account of the glacial isostatic adjustment (GIA)?
The GIA is totally bogus, so much so that the Colorado U folks have now moved their explanation off the front page and buried it back on the FAQ page. The only possible excuse for a GIA is that it moves the overall rate back up to the 3.1 mm/yr they had been having a harder and harder time selling to the public. The displayed chart also includes an inverse barometer adjustment, another knob to fudge their results with. Given that the total weight of the atmosphere doesn’t change, and their sea level value is for the whole planet, it’s hard to see it as anything other than another fudge.
Neither adjustment helps us know where the sea level might be in the coming years, the main reason for keeping track of it. The raw/real data is around somewhere, but they’ve made it difficult to use.
The people who think they’re controlling all of our lives, who are all into those religious prophesies, the Illumi… and the Free Maso…, especially with the recent Pope activity crap. They think they’ll have their little self fulling prophesy by actually making it happen and dazzling the sheeple. Well, I have another thing lined up for them. It’s called Solar Cycle 24. Look it up.
RE: Julian Flood says:
March 2, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Dark, calm and cold? Wind turbines producing next to nothing? I doubt the solar panels are doing more than collecting snow, either. The wisdom of the EU energy policy seems much like the wisdom of China’s “Great Leap Forward.”
It irks the heck out of me. Besides splitting wood, the only way to vent my temper is to write a rant, so I wrote “The Great Leap Backwards.”
http://sunriseswansong.wordpress.com/2013/03/01/the-great-leap-backwards/
Even Huffington Post, one of the biggest promoters of Global Warming , is questioning man-made Climate Blame;
” As for Planet Earth, a paper published Thursday in the journal Trends in Ecology and Evolution suggests that while human society does a very thorough job of modifying and, often enough, permanently and abruptly changing the dynamics of local and regional ecosystems, the collective impact of all this on a planetary scale is too often overstated. ”
Tipping Points: Can Humanity Break The Planet?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tom-zeller-jr/global-tipping-points_b_2793154.html#comments
Gene Selkov says:
March 2, 2013 at 5:33 pm
Re: immigration slowdown or reversal in the U.S. (same also in the U.K.) —
It’s only slowed a little until 2015 when the UK will be open to the whole of europe. All the criminals who are currently causing severe problems in germany’s cities will be able to go to the UK and claim as much benefit as they like including child, cars, invalid, unemployment etc. I would not want to be in the UK after 2015 and I won’t be.
but the Police Officer really didn’t need to shoot (And kill?) the shark.
A lot of cultures require a whole body for burial. They take it quite badly when the body is not recovered. Even cultures, like mine, more relaxed about such things, prefer a body in one piece. A shark chewing a body makes a big mess.
One flaming shark. New Zealand slaughter millions of chickens, pigs, sheep and cows every year, and then some fuss about one flaming shark.
People eat shark regularly BTW.
Totally irrelevant question …
What is your favourite WUWT headline?
Mine has to be the “Coochey Coup” headline regarding the non-death threat against Australian climate ‘scientists’.
I sometimes think that Anthony was wasted on science. Should have been a sub-editor for a dodgy tabloid paper….
I was reading an article a week or so ago about the big oil scare in 1977 when US president, Jimmy Carter made a speech in which he said that (especially) oil, coal and gas would run out within a few years and civilisation as we knew it would have to change. The article went on to say that vast reserves of oil and gas have been discovered in locations where technologically it was impossible to extract them in the seventies, but now technology has advanced and we can utilise these reserves, and apparently there is much more to be exploited than in the whole history of mankind
Since we are taught that oil and gas come originally from living thing, then presumably these living things needed CO2 because that is the basis of all life on Earth. My point is that because these fossil fuels were all created at round about the same time; does that not imply that the CO2 in the atmosphere was a lot higher than today and that since the Earth is a closed system, releasing the CO2 by burning these products cannot cause a runaway greenhouse effect, because I would not be sat at my PC typing this if there was? When you also factor in the billions of tons of sedimentary and metamorphic rocks, which also have captured CO2 from the same closed system, then this must completely demolish the CAGW theory. Or am I missing something?
Jimbo says:
March 2, 2013 at 3:52 pm
Not only has Germany had 5 colder than average winters, but so has the UK, apparently.
The Central England Temperature trends for for September, October, November December, January and Februeary are all falling by up to 2ºC since 2006!
Caleb says:
March 3, 2013 at 12:55 am
RE: Julian Flood says:
March 2, 2013 at 2:12 pm
Dark, calm and cold? Wind turbines producing next to nothing? I doubt the solar panels are doing more than collecting snow, either. The wisdom of the EU energy policy seems much like the wisdom of China’s “Great Leap Forward.”
It irks the heck out of me. Besides splitting wood, the only way to vent my temper is to write a rant, so I wrote “The Great Leap Backwards.”
How are your panels performing Anthony?
PBS Duped by TV show part 2 of 3, “A Chance to Play Detective with Downton Abbey”:
http://treadmillcasey.wordpress.com/2013/03/02/a-chance-to-play-columbo-with-downton-abbey
Part one is “Downton Abbey Takes Aim at Windmills”. It actually makes sense to start with part 2.
Free viewing of Downton finale expires 11:59 pm ET Sun , but is not required to solve the mystery.
Enjoy!