Of course we all know about that other ill-fated unabomber billboard last year that went over like a lead radiosonde balloon, but I like this one by CFACT (minus the date controversy of course).
Drive by this!
Science tells us that there is nothing out of the ordinary about today’s weather. There have always been droughts, floods, fires and storms and they will continue no matter what we do. A little historical research shows us that today’s weather is not even particularly extreme and by some measures is unusually tame.
NOAA and the U.K. Met Office, the two main sources of temperature data the UN’s IPCC rely on most, report that any warming there may have been has been limited to only three quarters of a degree in a century! Three quarters of a degree! Hardly the sort of thing to make a noticeable difference in extreme weather.
Further, the Met Office’s data shows no warming for the last 16-17 years! Our new billboard plasters the Met Office data in an easily understood graph right up in the sky.
It shows no warming for over 16 years 15 years. I’ve sent them a correction notice.
If you want to chip in to get one in your area, visit the link below. Billboards are surprisingly inexpensive.
http://www.cfact.org/donate/support-cfacts-billboard-campaign/
UPDATE: the 15/16 year issue discussed in comments is a matter of perception. If you count years, 97,98,99,00,01,02,03,04,05,06,07,08,09,10,11,12 you get a count of 16 years.
If you do the math, you get 15 years:
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=08&d1=31&y1=1997&m2=08&d2=31&y2=2012&ti=on
Note the extra day in that report. The issue has to do with defining the start point as zero or one. Counting years, like counting days, can give you can extra day. The timeanddate.com website allows for this by allowing you to not count the end day:
http://www.timeanddate.com/date/durationresult.html?m1=08&d1=31&y1=1997&m2=08&d2=31&y2=2012&ti=off
Either way, te lack of warming over the time period is a compelling argument.
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Phobos – the Greek God of Horror. ROFL!!!!
The 15 year time frame has been discussed here many times. See Mike Jonas at 2:24 pm.
;-D
Anthony
There is no better place than your home page to place this billboard message just under or above the widget icon. With millions of people reading this web page , it would get tremendous exposure to everyone who comes to this web page .Unfortunately the battle appears to be no longer about the correct science or weather global warming is really happening and for how long but one of international politics and tradeoffs,possible new carbon tax, and transfer of more wealth to United Nations. The science which is clearly flawed is just a cover to pacify the publci. No other scientific field would tolerate so much bad science and get away calling this solid science unless there is support at governmental levels despite the flawed science
DesertYote writes: “Then your thinker is broken.”
Well I haven’t donated and only because of the hurdles they foolishly put my way, so I’ve proved my point. What have you got?
@OldSpanky
Your logic is fine; I did not contribute for the same reason, even though I very much like the general idea of this billboard; I do not (like any prudent person) give out my credit card to the internet except for a very few trusted sites. It is so easy for sites to accept PayPal that I wonder why it isn’t as standard as Visa and MasterCard.
And you should pay no mind to DesertYote; he/she seems quite agitated.
[It worked. — mod.]
So does your English teacher. 😉
Why stop at 15/16 years? Why not a billboard showing the MWP, RWP, etc, along with today’s temps, no warming for 3000 years…
All the comments about the alarmists ridiculing sceptics over 15 or 16 years.
They are gonna attempt to ridicule anyway, thats all they ever had for an argument.
Smug group think, they are the good and true holders of wisdom.
Those who doubt are demented, misguided sub humans.
I doubt, therefore I be evil.He wants evidence? Heretic.
It is pointless trying to argue with the true believer, their logic is fully circular.
The billboard reaches out to the busy public, it works.
And when the alarmists pounce on the “error” and start bending the ear of normal people, they just annoy. The public is not as gullible as the average true believer, 15 or 16 years? So what, where’s my global warming dude?
The difference between a newborn (0 yr old) and a 1 yr old is quite significant. The difference between a 15 yr old and a 16 yr old, not so much.
I love the billboard! Gimme a bumper sticker to go next to my NRA sticker!
I think this is really clever taking advantage before the temperature goes up again. Most people wouldn’t know the difference anyway or check to see how high the temperature got in 1997-98. They’ll just think it’s been flat like forever. For the same reason it doesn’t matter if it’s 15 or 16 years. Who’s going to check? Only alarmists and that’s not the target audience.
Excellent all around!
And I think it’s great to use it to have a go at Gore, too. It shows what side we skeptics are on.
Sorry, meant to add /sarc
Why not just CONGRATULATE the alarmists for saving the planet? Note that since Kyoto, global warming seems to have stopped.
“Awesome! Thanks so much for saving us from this dreadful threat! You guys ought to win a prize or something.”
Some of them will take the bait. Imagine how much fun that might be.
To the general public the name Al Gore is likely to be associated with a alarming / dangerous warming from burning fossil fuels.
Other climate alarm proponents probably are less familiar to the general public.
The poster concretizes the thought of no warming when it mentions Al Gore the warming alarmist. It makes it more effective than just the graph without a person’s name would be.
Go for it CFACT.
John
One way to use a 15-year period–or even longer–without cherry-picking an advantageous end date, would be to avoid the claim “no warming for nn years” n instead ask a question, like “Can you see any global warming here?” or “Let’s look at the record. Where’s the global warming?”
Alternatively, or in addition, “The hockey stick is playing hooky” or “Where’s the hockey stick now?”
Also, “The warm is turning.” Use that one after it’s been cooling for a couple of years.
Just a general question: are the comments by Graham Green above (Feb 27, 09:10 am), referring to public figures as ‘rent boys’ (= male prostitutes) to be seen as a good example of the WUWT comment policy?
Reply: Insulting a public figure is not proscribed by the “no personal attacks” clause of the blog policy. A rather nasty insult such as the one noted may come close to the “no vulgarity” clause, but in this case I think the commenter stayed well within the lines. As a side note, you will find many here have a rather low opinion of Mann and Jones. I myself have written posts which call Mann out on, shall we say, being a bit inept at telling the truth? ~ctm
PS: The complete absence of contrarian publicity campaigns like this until now undermines the alarmists’ contention that the public has been misled by a denial machine. That machine has been conspicuous by its absence.
From 1934 to 1978 (45 years!) there was a negative temperature trend.
http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1934/to:1978/plot/hadcrut4gl/from:1934/to:1978/trend
@ur momisugly
for those at the other 15, 16, 17 or XX Years no warming discussion on Moncton versus Pachauri;
all is allready said, this is a waste;
I take a time – out in solidarity with Jan Perlwitz;
no vulgarity?
difference of standaards
standaard is Antwerps > standards
I would like to thanks people for posts that thoughtfully responded to my comment. I was pulled away yesterday, so was unable to continue the dialogue in this thread. Perhaps I can pick it up in another post.
Are these monthly averages, or longer averages centered around those months? If it is just monthly, it is a very weak billboard. For Nasa GISTEMP, Jan 1981 to Jan 2012, .53C down to .37C. Dec 2012 is .44C.
Gore works for big oil now
I’d like to clarify my objection to the use of Al Gore’s name. While, yes, his name is associated strongly with the film “An Inconvenient Truth”, he otherwise has very little to do with climate science or policy making, other than making a lot of noise about it. He’s not a scientist, he’s not an elected official, he holds no office of power. He seems like an odd choice, to me, for a person to “call out” – which is essentially what this billboard is doing. It’s like calling out a cheerleader for the failings of her team. I don’t mind the word-play with the phrase “An Inconvenient Truth” because it tweaks the nose of the most prominent public “face” of global warming. But Al Gore? He’s nothing to do with anything. I mean, would the billboard make the same amount of sense to use David Suzuki’s name instead? No, and for the same exact reasons.
It would be better if the rise in CO2 were also graphed . It’s not the time which matters other than averaging out the “noise” ; it’s the lack of warming in spite of an 8 or 9% increase in CO2 . This is a common point needing to be made in blog battles .
Another point that is commonly argued is that these are still the “hottest decade ever” . For that not to be the case , the temperature would have had to take a steeper dive than it did a rise .
These billboards should be placed at a height above the ground corresponding to their scale so that the ground would represent 0 . Of course that would mean they would be several hundred feet up , so maybe that’s not practical .