Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
I see the good Lord Stern is back in the news. Lord Stern famously produced an eponymous report a few years ago about how much it would cost to cut down carbon dioxide to try to cool down the planetary temperature. He said it would be dirt cheap, a percent or two of GDP would do it quite nicely … riiiight …
The amazing part of the Stern Report was his choice for the future value of money. Here’s the deal with the future value of money, which you already know, perhaps even without knowing you know it. If I said to you, “Which would you prefer, a thousand dollars now, or a thousand dollars next year”, I doubt you’d have much trouble noticing that money next year is not worth the same as money today. How about a thousand dollars either next year or in ten years? You’d greatly prefer next year. That is the future value of money. It is always worth less than money today. It gets discounted a bit, a few percent, for each year into the future. An iron-clad guarantee of a thousand dollars in a hundred years is worth almost nothing today.
Lord Stern’s brilliant contribution to the rapidly emerging field of Paleocarbophobic Economics was to do his entire study of CO2 reduction as if the presumed benefits of reduced temperatures in fifty years have the same value as if we got the putative future benefits today. His discount rate for the future monies was zero, which is the same as saying that future money paid to you fifty years from now is worth exactly the same as money paid to you today … you don’t have to be an accountant to know that’s bogus, you know a thousand bucks in fifty years is worth a whole lot less than a thousand bucks today, but that was Stern’s claim. Mindboggling.
Figure 1. Total cumulative carbon emissions (blue), cumulative carbon sequestered (absorbed) by the planet (green), and cumulative carbon remaining in the atmosphere (red). The purple line shows the “airborne fraction”, which is the amount of carbon remaining in the atmosphere as a percentage of the amount emitted. Note the underlying relationship, that the total emitted is the sum of the amount sequestered plus the amount remaining in the atmosphere, or Emitted = Airborne + Sequestered. Data Sources: Fossil fuel CO2 emissions – Land use CO2 emissions – Airborne CO2 levels The conversion factor of 2.13 gigatonnes of carbon equal 1 ppmv of atmospheric CO2 was used to convert between units.
Of course, Lord Stern had to make the ridiculous claim that the future benefits had huge value today in order to make the CO2 reduction scam appear to make any economic sense. As an accountant, I would have recommended un-Lording his noble keister for that particularly egregious economics transgression, but unfortunately the Queen of England doesn’t pay much attention to me. I know because I wrote to her Majesty once. Her private secretary replied.
He sent a lovely letter on a piece of paper that was so thick it looked like it would crack if it were folded, a gorgeous cream-colored slab of royal stationery, posted to me in an envelope the size of a small valise … unfortunately, if her Majesty’s secretary’s answer were translated into the dialect of the native tribes of the island of New Amsterdam, it could be best rendered as “Her Majesty has ordered me to tell you to fuggeddaboutit” … but I digress.
So what is Lord Stern’s latest claim? I’m sure you will be shocked and surprised to find out that he now says It’s Worse Than We Thought!™
The UK’s Guardian newspaper, that most British bastion of blatant bloviation, has the story here. I was most interested in the reasons why Lord Stern thinks that It’s Worse Than We Thought!™ This turns out to be the following, in Lord Stern’s own words:
“Looking back, I underestimated the risks. The planet and the atmosphere seem to be absorbing less carbon than we expected, and emissions are rising pretty strongly. Some of the effects are coming through more quickly than we thought then.”
You can tell he’s a pro because of the number of errors he has managed to shoehorn into three short sentences. It takes true nobility to do that, a common man like myself couldn’t stand the pressure. Let me start with his most ridiculous statement, that “the atmosphere seem to be absorbing less carbon than we expected”. Really? How much CO2 were we expecting the atmosphere to “absorb”? And what does it mean for the atmosphere to “absorb” CO2? There’s no meaning in that statement.
But let’s assume that “the atmosphere absorbs” means the atmosphere has taken up less carbon than we expected. I’m not sure how much he expected it to take up, so there’s no way to judge that … but it doesn’t matter because there’s another, larger problem. Since Emitted = Airborne + Sequestered, the only way for the airborne amount to be less than expected (as he claims) is for the sequestered amount to be greater than expected. The problem with that is that he has said that the planet is sequestering less CO2, not more.
But those are just the inherent internal contradictions in Lord Stern’s strange statement. More important are the actual mis-statements of fact. He claims that a reason that he underestimated the risks is that “emissions are rising pretty strongly”. But in fact there is little change from the emissions trend in 2006 when he wrote his infamous report.
And his claim that less and less is being sequestered by the planet? Absolute fantasy. The airborne fraction is the amount of CO2 remaining in the atmosphere. As shown by Figure 1, it has not changed significantly in the last fifty years, nor has the sequestration rate. What is he imagining is new since 2006? Lest you think I am making up my claim about the carbon sinks not changing, here’s a report of NOAA’s take on the question:
Natural sinks still sopping up carbon
Ecosystems haven’t maxed out ability to absorb fossil fuel emissions
May 15, 2012
BOULDER, Colo. — Earth’s ecosystems keep soaking up more carbon as greenhouse gases accumulate in the atmosphere, new measurements find.
The research contradicts several recent studies suggesting that “carbon sinks” have reached or passed their capacity. By looking at global measurements of atmospheric carbon dioxide, the new work calculates instead that total sinks have increased roughly in line with rising emissions.
“The sinks have been more than able to keep up with emissions,” said Pieter Tans, an atmospheric scientist at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colo. Tans presented the findings May 15 at an annual conference on global monitoring hosted by the lab.
(In passing, I just noticed that NOAA appears to have used the same method I used to determine the airborne fraction, by looking at global measurements of atmospheric CO2. Curious if true, but again I digress. Onwards to the finale …)
SUMMARY OF STERN’S STATEMENTS:
Every single claim that Lord Stern made about how things are getting worse is untrue.
• There have been no surprises on the emissions front. The average annual increases in the CO2 emissions are basically unchanged since he wrote his report in 2006. In fact, despite his claim of rising emissions, the increases are somewhat smaller than expected in 2006, due to the drop in emissions from the global financial crisis.
• The amount of CO2 sequestered by the planet has stayed quite constant at about 55% of the total emissions. There has been no decrease in sequestration as he claims, and there is no evidence that the carbon sinks are losing their ability to sequester CO2.
• Finally, although he says “the effects are coming through more quickly than we thought”, the earth placidly continues along with no statistically significant warming or cooling over the last 15 years, and there is no sign of any increase in extreme events … so exactly which effects of CO2 are “coming through”, quickly or not?
Not one true statement in the bunch … oh, my good Lord!
Three seventeen am, I guess that’s bedtime for me. Starlight and high night cirrus to y’all, with the full moon steaming majestically through the clouds in the middle of a ring of light, remember that the loup garou needs your prayers, I’m off to sleep …
w.
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David Jones:
At January 27, 2013 at 3:09 pm you say of Lord Stern and his Report
It is much, much worse than that!
On 6 July 2005 the House of Lords Select Committee on Economic Affairs published its Report on ‘The Economics of Climate Change’. It can be read at
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200506/ldselect/ldeconaf/12/12i.pdf
That Report was damning of government climate policy. It found that adaptation policies would be much more cost effective than mitigation policies. And, therefore, it called for the UK Government to adopt adaptation policies instead of mitigation policies (e.g. subsidising windfarms) and rejected activities such as the Kyoto Protocol.
The UK government has a Constitutional Duty to respond to a Select Committee Report so the then Blair Government had to respond to the Report from the Lords Select Committee on Economic Affairs.
This was a problem for the Government because the Report recommended a complete reversal of Government climate policy.
The Government solved the problem by calling upon Sir Nicholas Stern (now Lord Stern) to conduct another Report which would assess the maximum possible costs if all worse-case scenarios for global warming were to come true. Stern fulfilled that duty and produced his now infamous Report which was published on 30 October 2006.
The Blair Government – and successive UK Governments – then hid behind the Stern Report whenever the Lords Select Committee Report was mentioned. Simply, the Stern Report was and is a ‘fig leaf’ to hide the findings in the Lords Select Committee on Economic Affairs Report on ‘The Economics of Climate Change’.
Several leading economists from around the world have published analyses which conclude the methods used in the Stern Report are very flawed.
However, Green organisations still pretend the Stern Report was a serious analysis although it was commissioned and produced as pure political propaganda and has been refuted by leading economists.
As a footnote
Lord (Nigel) Lawson of Blaby chaired the Lords Select Committee on Economic Affairs when it produced its Report on ‘The Economics of Climate Change’. He subsequently was a founder member of the Global Warming Policy Foundation which lobbies to correct UK Climate Policy.
Richard
The Death of Inflation was written by Bootle, not Dent. Sorry for not making that clear.
Why… pray to a werewolf? pray for a werewolf?
I am missing something on that one.
For a brief history of the Stern Report and the critiques of it (pioneered by the late, great former Australian Statistician Ian Castles and his colleague David Henderson, see this:
http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/11/29/henderson-on-castles.html
Interestingly, Castles first became concerned about the dodgy economics and statistics underpinning the climate scares in 2002, when he looked upon the IPCC work in that field and found it abysmally bad. He and Henderson both regarded the economic projections as not only methodologically dreadful, but based on a degree of certainty about the science previously unheard of in forecasting.
As a former top public servant who won international awards for his knowledge and professionalism in statistics and government, Castles was baffled that the UK government would embark on far-reaching economic changes without involving – oh, I don’t know – the Treasury and impartial statisticians.
Amazingly, the discount rate issue (and previous posters are correct to say that it’s not about inflation, but about uncertainty) was an absolute rookie mistake, or the introduction of a whole new concept in economics – that of almost perfect prediction of the future. And yes, Stern did use 1.4% here and 2.4% there (but hey, what’s a percentage point between friends?), and yes, any business or government which did that would go broke in short order. It’s way too low. Oh, wait …
@berniel:
There are two “time value of money” aspects. One is inflation (that is, the tendency of a currency to debase over time). The other is more important. That is the intrinsic high value of a hamburger today over one next Tuesday. I might die before next Tuesday. I might find I developed a beef allergy. YOU might die and the promise of a hamburger next Tuesday be lost. On it goes…
So there are both aspects tied up in a ‘discount rate’. The actual “time value of money” and an inflation adjustment term.
@Rob Scott:
Oh please. Tune up your humor Tin Ear please!
Frankly, as one on The Other Side Of The Pond, I think it’s kind of fun that “we have” our own Lord. Yes, I know, on the other side they take Lord titles seriously and all. “Our” Lord shows a certain sense of awareness of the semi-silly aspect of the fuss over his being an Hereditary Lord, but not a seated Lord in government.
As per “real scientist”: Those who follow the scientific method are real scientists. Climate alarmists on the public grant-dole are not following the scientific method.
E. M. Smith, inflation (or deflation, which also happens) are a subset of uncertainty.
Is it Lord Stern or Howard Stern? I must admit to being not smart enough to notice subtle differences.
Ken Gregory says:
January 27, 2013 at 12:28 pm
Fixed, thanks.
w.
Crispin in Waterloo says:
January 27, 2013 at 3:15 pm
Thanks, Crispin. I was talking about the future value of money, not about inflation. Someone else above said that the future value of money was about insecurity about the future. I’m not talking about that either.
Suppose there were no inflation at all. Suppose there were no uncertainty.
Would you rather have a 100%-guaranteed thousand dollars now or in ten years?
See what I mean? No inflation, no insecurity, and still the thousand bucks is worth more today than in ten years …
w.
duncanmackenzie says:
January 27, 2013 at 5:10 pm
Thanks, Duncan. On my planet, all of the strange and wonderful creatures, real or inorganic, that are shunned and hated by man for any one of a thousand reasons need all of our prayers … our only salvation lies in taking the wildering path, the one that does not lead to our destination.
YPMV
w.
To clarify why the future value of money is not just about inflation or uncertainty, replace it with something that you like. Say a new car. If there were no inflation and no uncertainty, would you rather have a new car now or next year? Obviously, the answer is “now”, because you get an extra year of use. The same is true of money. If I have it now instead of in ten years, I get to enjoy its use for an extra ten years … and that is valuable without reference to inflation or uncertainty.
w.
Willis: “That is the future value of money. It is always worth less than money today.”
Not ALWAYS, Willis. After the 1929 crash, the economic downturn caused the supply of money to drop, causing deflation instead of inflation, and on a pretty significant scale. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics’ CPI calculator says $1,000 in 1929 was equal to $812.87 as late as 1939 (the Depression did last on into the war a bit).
Steve Garcia
A minor correction, Willis. There’s no such office as “the Queen of England” and hasn’t been for several hundred years. She’s queen of lots of places (realms) including Queen of Australia for us Aussies, but perhaps you were referring to her title at home which I’ll abbreviate to Queen of the United Kingdom … which goes on to specify “Great Britain” but no mention of any place called “England”. Do try to keep up with the times.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Possibley from the Lon Chaney Jr. movie The Wolfman (1941):
“Even a man who is pure in heart,
And says his prayers by night,
May become a wolf when the wolfbane blooms,
And the Autumn moon is bright.”
feet2thefire says:
January 27, 2013 at 8:56 pm
Thanks, Steve. Yes, ALWAYS. You are talking about something other than what I’m discussing. You are referring to what the money actually turned out to be worth, which as you point out may be either more or less than the present value before the fact.
I’m talking about something else, the future value of money. This is NOT what the money actually turns out to be worth in the future. It is the value that we place today on money that we will receive in the future.
All the best,
w.
Colin says:
January 27, 2013 at 9:22 pm
Thanks, Colin. Indeed, you are quite correct. This being the age of the internet, I can easily determine that her Majesty’s official “style” is
with no England in sight, as you point out.
Because I wrote to her in 1987, well before the internet, and from the Solomon Islands, at the time I hadn’t a clue what to call her.
So I just apologized in advance, and told her that I was was an unlettered colonial and asked her to forgive me if I did not know the proper forms. It didn’t seem to bother her, which is to say she didn’t bust me for calling her the Queen of England …
w.
And the widespread adoption of fracking and the subsequent drop in the price of Natural Gas.
The future value of money can, as Willis said, simply mean you get more use from a product.
I look at future value as related to how much that money would be worth if invested.
If you invested 1000 dollars today, at 5% (long term stock returns are near 10%), it would be worth $1551 in ten years, neglecting inflation.
Do you want $1551 in ten years, or $1000?
As Willis noted, Stern used a very low discount rate, of close to zero. The “consensus” of economists, is that Stern’s discount rate is a fantasy.
On top of this, Stern used Market Exchange Rate (MER) to calculate future value. The standard used by most economists is Purchasing Power Parity (PPP). Note that every body of the UN uses PPP, except the IPCC.
As an example, the IPCC projections using MER, for per capita GDP for North Korea, will be twice that of the USA by 2100.
“Some of the effects are coming through more quickly than we thought then”. I think he has confused the response of the faithful and gullible, with the response of the climate. The gullible will always ‘come through more quickly’, the climate may/may not.
E M Smith says at 6.06 to Rob Scott (which must mean me)
Oh please. Tune up your humor Tin Ear please!
Frankly, as one on The Other Side Of The Pond, I think it’s kind of fun that “we have” our own Lord. Yes, I know, on the other side they take Lord titles seriously and all. “Our” Lord shows a certain sense of awareness of the semi-silly aspect of the fuss over his being an Hereditary Lord, but not a seated Lord in government.
I think we’re on the same side of the pond, Old Boy (clue – my spelling of sceptic). Are you getting your underwear knotted by mixing up “our” life peer, Lord Stern, with “our” truly noble peer, Lord Monkton? As this thread’s about the former, did I need to name my lord?
There, tin ear fixed.
Oh, BTW, did you actually read my contribution?
Stern’s maths are similar to those used by climatologists who are sure that insolation reaching the surface is 240W/m2 when measured zenith insolation is 960W/m2. This figure is the same as that calculated taking into account albedo and what the atmosphere adsorbs.
CO2 numbers grew at a higher rate in 2012. Mauna Loa was up +2.56 ppm and global CO2 is trending toward +2.77 ppm.
Up to the end of 2011, the numbers were starting to look like the CO2 growth rate had moved back to a linear (rather than a slightly exponential) rate. With the current 2012 numbers, it looks like we are back on the slightly exponential trend again.
ftp://ftp.cmdl.noaa.gov/ccg/co2/trends/
I like to watch the Barrow Alaska numbers because it is a high quality station like Mauna Loa and its numbers are a leading indicator of the global trends and Mauna Loa.
Barrow’s CO2 growth looks to have slowed down in the most recent numbers.
http://s1.postimage.org/idfsvzpvj/Barrow_CO2_Jan_2013.png
More importantly, is the Methane measurements from Barrow which are the highest in the world, have the highest seasonal variation and would be the indicator for Methane release from Arctic warming for example. In the last few years, Methane had started increasing again after it looked like it had stabilized by around the year 2008.
Now it looks like Methane growth has stalled again with Barrow just reaching the peak of its seasonal cycle right now and at the same level as it has been in the last two years. No Methane apocalypse according to the Barrow station.
http://s14.postimage.org/5tocooxgx/Barrow_Methane_Jan_2013.png
richardscourtney says:
January 27, 2013 at 4:00 pm
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Further to the valid observation made by Richard, the preparation and adoption of UK Climate Change Act is the most extreme example of gross dereliction in public office imaginable, and demonstates clearly why we desperately need proper accountability for decisions taken by public officials discharging their futies in public office. All those involved in the passing of that Act potentially havce a case to answer with regard to recompensing the UK tax payer.
The UK Climate Change Act is the second mostly costly piece of peace time legislation (only the welfare reforms and setting up of the NHS after WW2 have involved greater amounts of public finance) and not only did Blair and his labour pals engage in the shenanigans described by Richard to get the Act on the statute book, only a handful of MPs could be bothered to debate the whys and wherefores behind the second most costly piece of peace time legislation. Simply incredible! You can’t imagine that happening in private practice; when would you ever see a company not even debating the second most costly expenditure that it will ever face to bear.
It is simply amazing that there are not more calls for proper recompense from those responsible for this fiasco. And the reason for that, of course, lies at the door of MSM and those that control it.
Willis:
The ridiculous Stern Report only exists because of the nature of the unwritten UK Constitution and it was and is a necessary political and propaganda tool for UK Government because of the Constitution (see my explanation at January 27, 2013 at 4:00 pm).
I don’t intend to distract the important subject of this thread with a side-track, but you raise another important UK Constitutional issue when you discuss the official titles of HM Queen Elizabeth II. This is pertinent to the present discussion because it goes to the heart of every UK Constitutional issue including the UK Government’s need for the Stern Report as a ‘fig leaf’.
The countries of the British Isles had been warring for centuries. There seemed to be no possibility of ever achieving an end to the strife (indeed, the end of war in Ireland was not obtained until this century). England was always more powerful than Scotland, so the only method to obtain peace between England and Scotland was for England to accept a Scottish King as being the King of England. Accident of history made this possible because the two countries shared a monarch from 1603 when King James VI of Scotland inherited the English throne from his double first cousin twice removed, Queen Elizabeth I. But the two countries remained separate kingdoms with separate Crowns.
Having the same monarch enabled the two countries to share the same Crown and this was achieved by the Treaty of Union which was adopted by the Acts of Union; i.e. the Union with Scotland Act (1706) of the Parliament of England, and the Union with England Act (1707) of the Parliament of Scotland.
The Treaty of Union created the new nation of Great Britain answerable to one Crown worn by the one monarch. But the countries of England and Scotland remained with their own Parliaments and laws.
It is important to note that this also expanded the United Kingdom (UK) which included Wales because the English Crown also applied to Wales. Great Britain claimed the UK also included Ireland, and this claim was not resolved until the twentieth century.
The difference between Great Britain and the UK is important because neither includes all of the British Isles. This is why the “Other Realms” of the Crown are important. For example, Cornwall is part of the British mainland and it is debateable as to whether it is part of Great Britain and the United Kingdom. And the Isle of Mann is not included in the UK or Great Britain but has a unique position with the British monarch as its Head Of State whose personal representative on the Island is appointed by the Crown for a five-year term as Lieutenant Governor.
The Isle Of Mann is a tax haven in the middle of the British Isles (it seems that money is always important to how Mann functions).
The individual countries which answer to the British Crown can only change their laws if the Crown agrees. The monarch wears the Crown and – with the assistance of Her advisors – decides what approval to provide. In the context of the present discussion, this has two important effects.
Prior to each Session of the Westminster Parliament, HM Government provides the monarch with a draft of the Queen’s Speech. This Speech states the Acts which the Government intends to undertake in Parliament during the coming Session. The monarch decides which of those Government Acts will be given the Royal Assent and thus become Law. At the State Opening of Parliament the monarch reads the parts of the Speech She is willing to approve to become Law. In practice, there is little possibility that the Government would provide the monarch with a draft which she would modify. The monarch has a weekly meeting with the Prime Minister and Her Advisors regularly meet with other Government Ministers. A Government would not waste Parliamentary time on business which would not obtain Royal Assent so could not be enacted. And the people would side with the Crown if a Government were to create a Constitutional crisis by doing that.
The people would side with the monarch because – in effect – the monarch is the country and people side with their country. (This is also why a fascist monarch was forced to abdicate – with a ridiculous excuse about a love affair – in the 1930s: the people would not support a fascist monarch at a time when a war with fascism seemed inevitable.)
In summation, the monarch has an effective veto of discussion of a possible law before the discussion starts.
Importantly, Government is answerable to Parliament and to the Crown. In the event that a Government were to ignore Parliament or the Crown then the Crown can dissolve Parliament with a view to forming a new Government. Any new Government has to be agreed by the monarch who wears the Crown.
Thus, in 2005 the then Government had to respond to the House of Lords Select Committee on Economic Affairs publishing its Report on ‘The Economics of Climate Change’. The Government would have ignored Parliament if it had failed to respond to that Report. And this would threaten a Constitutional Crisis. The Government would fall whatever the outcome of that unwanted crisis,
Hence, as I explained in my post at January 27, 2013 at 4:00 pm, the Government commissioned the blatantly and deliberately flawed Stern Report as its response to the Select Committee Report.
Richard
Bill Illis: Do you have the original sites for the Barrow data? Postimage is blocked on the company network.