From the University of California – Davis and the “seek and ye shall find” department, a stunning example of Tabloid Climatology™ trying to link “extreme weather” with the Mayan civilization collapse. They did get one thing right though with this quote:
“We are dependent on climatological events that are beyond our control.”
As usual with bad press releases like this, they don’t name the paper, just the claims and the silly headline. (See update below for the paper) It is funny how a naturally occurring drought gets morphed into the “extreme weather” meme of the current news cycle.
Extreme weather preceded collapse of Maya civilization
Decades of extreme weather crippled, and ultimately decimated, first the political culture and later the human population of the ancient Maya, according to a new study by an interdisciplinary team of researchers that includes two University of California, Davis, scientists.
The collapse of the Maya is one of the world’s most enduring mysteries. Now, for the first time, researchers have combined a precise climatic record of the Maya environment with a precise record of Maya political history to provide a better understanding of the role weather had in the civilization’s downfall.
Their findings are published in the Nov. 9, 2012 issue of the journal Science.
“Here you had an amazing state-level society that had created calendars, magnificent architecture, works of art, and was engaged in trade throughout Central America,” said UC Davis anthropology professor and co-author Bruce Winterhalder. “They were incredible craftspersons, proficient in agriculture, statesmanship and warfare—and within about 80 years, it fell completely apart.”
To determine what was happening in the sociopolitical realm during each of those years, the study tapped the extensive Maya Hieroglyphic Database Project, run by UC Davis Native American Language Center director and linguist Martha Macri, a specialist in Mayan hieroglyphs who has been tracking the culture’s stone monuments for nearly 30 years.
“Every one of these Maya monuments is political history,” said Macri.
Inscribed on each monument is the date it was erected and dates of significant events, such as a ruler’s birthday or accession to power, as well as dates of some deaths, burials and major battles. The researchers noted that the number of monuments carved decreased in the years leading to the collapse.
But the monuments made no mention of ecological events, such as storms, drought or references to crop successes or failures.
For that information, the research team collected a stalagmite from a cave in Belize, less than 1 mile from the Maya site of Uxbenka and about 18 miles from three other important centers. Using oxygen isotope dating in 0.1 millimeter increments along the length of the stalagmite, the scientists uncovered a physical record of rainfall over the past 2,000 years.
Combined, the stalagmite and hieroglyphs allowed the researchers to link precipitation to politics. Periods of high and increasing rainfall coincided with a rise in population and political centers between 300 and 660 AD. A climate reversal and drying trend between 660 and 1000 AD triggered political competition, increased warfare, overall sociopolitical instability, and finally, political collapse. This was followed by an extended drought between 1020 and 1100 AD that likely corresponded with crop failures, death, famine, migration and, ultimately, the collapse of the Maya population.
“It has long been suspected that weather events can cause a lot of political unrest and subject societies to disease and invasion,” Macri said. “But now it’s clear. There is physical evidence that correlates right along with it. We are dependent on climatological events that are beyond our control.”
Said Winterhalder: “It’s a cautionary tale about how fragile our political structure might be. Are we in danger the same way the Classic Maya were in danger? I don’t know. But I suspect that just before their rapid descent and disappearance, Maya political elites were quite confident about their achievements.”
Co-authors leading the study are Douglas Kennett of Pennsylvania State University and Sebastian Breitenbach of Eidgenossische Technische Hochschule in Switzerland. The research was funded by the National Science Foundation, the European Research Council and Alphawood Foundation.
UPDATE: Abstract and link to paper here
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/338/6108/788
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Extreme weather preceded collapse of Maya civilization
Ok, so we can exclude hunan sacrafice as means to combate “climate change”. Wonder if the CAGW zealots will take note of this? My guess is: “No, get the deniers of science!”
There is nothing new in this research – the drought that brought about the demise of the Maya has been in the climate literature for years.
Besides how could they deduce drought from stalactites (memory help “c” is for ceiling) and stalagmites (“g” is for ground) – weren’t they used to determine temperature in the 2007 IPCC attempt to salvage the hockey stick?
But, according to The Mann there was no warming then!
So, maybe CAGW = Catastrophic Climate Change breaks down from time to time?
That is one idea.
Another idea is that an elite priesthood and aristocratic class developed, who made a living by telling people what they could and could not eat, and passing laws about what “stuff” they could have, contrary to their original myths and legends, in which a loving God sent his Super Twins to give the gifts of fire, cotton, crops, cattle, water, and just laws, to all people.
Anthony;
Perhaps there may be something to this. What if Mayans has an active warmist movement that was scared by natural phenomena and the warmist convinced the leaders to prevent the use of natural resources to support the population.
That could wipe out a civilization.
Think of Sandy and the recent election:
Extreme weather preceded collapse of American civilization
History may repeat itself.
Magic Melting Mauled Mayan MesoaMerican Metropolitan Members’ Making Money Mechanisms.
Whereas mountainous jungle civil war involving human hearts being cut out and human flesh being consumed in front of said humans’ closest relatives,
didn’t faze em…
the outbreak of more, or less rain, ruined their whole civilization. Yah..YEAH!
Surrounded by local climate buffered by oceans large and warm, on from two, to three sides, while engaging in farming, animal husbandry, FISHING, MINING, and other environmentally intensive activities,
the temperatures rising or falling a few degrees
made everybody go insane.
It was bad weather made war break out.
Yeah, THAT’s thuh TICKeT!
So the climate has been slowly changing throughout the course of the Holocene – got it.
‘Ok, so we can exclude hunan sacrafice as means to combate “climate change”.’
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Oh good, the Chinese can breath easier now.
Human sacrifice and flush toilets don’t mix
As above no new info, there is a TV special on the topic I have seen several times.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/cultures/maya_01.shtml
Just regurgitation of Dick Gill’s research it looks like to me.
Larry
Aide memoire…..
The mites go up and the tites go down.
IanM
Those Mayans and their gas guzzling V8s!
Serves them right…
“Decades of extreme weather crippled, and ultimately decimated, first the political culture and later the human population of the ancient Maya, according to a new study…”
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What? There was “extreme weather” before modern times? I thought all extreme weather was “unprecedented” and due to our modern addiction to fossil fuels. Who knew there could be other causes?
Are Warmists now going to point to the end of the Mayan calendar as proof that the world is coming to an end due to climate change if we don’t act now?
Plus they invented Planned Parenthood.
The Mayan Hockey Stick predicted 6C of increase in world temperature by December 2012…
Tim Ball: …stalactites (memory help “c” is for ceiling) and stalagmites (“g” is for ground)
Need more help? It’s like ants in the pants–the mites go up and the tites go down.
: > )
The lesson to be learned here is that when an advanced civilisation falls, for whatever reason, it does so in a very rapid spiral which unleashes in a relatively short period of time. A preview of coming attractions.
The paper also validates the MWP as a global “warming” event, which being free from anthropogenic influences could not have been “avoided” by any Mayan Carbon Reduction Schemes, Renewable energy scams, or other Mayan bureaucratic interventions. No human intervention or sacrifice to their Gaia equivalent could save them, just as our symbolic and Quixotic attempts to follow suit are similarly pointless and counter-productive. As their civilisation crumbled- increasing sacrifices of their human capital to appease the Gods only hastened their demise. There but for the grace of God go us all. The parallels to the current situation are remarkable, and disquieting to say the least.
When did weather become the climate? First we have:
Then we have:
The IPCC and the WMO say climate is 30 years or more of data yet these alleged researchers have decided that 80 years of climate is the weather. Which is it? The climate or the weather?
Every empire weakens and fades sooner or later. It’s the nature of the beast. While a culture is strong, it’s able to get through bad years by storage and engineering. After it starts to weaken, it neglects grain storage, replaces builders with lawyers or priests, and allows its dams and irrigation systems to decay. As we’re doing now.
Is it any wonder how “Extreme weather” existed at a time of such low atmospheric co2. If exactly the same drought happened in exactly the same place today you know what to blame: co2.
Below are a few acknowledgments and examples of low Co2 ‘induced’ abrupt climate changes. 😉 NB they sometimes speculate about the future of man’s increased co2 using models.
http://tinyurl.com/c5swtzh
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/299/5615/2005.short
http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/30081147?uid=3738096&uid=2&uid=4&sid=21101351963891
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/%28SICI%291099-1417%28199611/12%2911:6%3C451::AID-JQS275%3E3.0.CO;2-9/abstract
http://md1.csa.com/partners/viewrecord.php?requester=gs&collection=ENV&recid=13760252&q=&uid=791805140&setcookie=yes
People look to climate as the cause but it could just as easily be human-caused. Too many people moving into one place, displacing food production further from the center. Eventually the city grows too large to sustain itself (no change in climate or rainfall). There were also pre-Mayan civilizations that collapsed, one near Pachuka that saw pyramids built before Christ was born.
They were extremely concerned about over population so they decided to starve themselves to death to save future generations ;>)
One of the things that the Mayan’s also had was a command economy. There was no such thing as private enterprise – which meant that they didn’t have much flexibility built into their system.
Btw, the ancient Mayans (along with other native Americans) are descendants of the Lamanite and Nephite races of the Book of Mormon, perhaps the conjectured disaster prophecy connected with the ending of the Mayan calendar in December 2012 shows prescient judgement for the rejection of Mitt Romney in the presidential erection, :).
You are correct! Why are these people being funded to tell us what’s already out their? Is it because in their grant proposal they mention “Extreme weather”? I doubt it. 😉
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Maya+civilization+drought&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&as_vis=1