NOTE: This is a “sticky” top post, new posts will appear below this one.
No, I’m not asking for money, only your ability to research and encapsulate an idea.
I have another big project in the works, and I’m inviting you all to be a part of it because this is an idea that lends itself to crowd-sourcing very well. I’ll have a press release forthcoming as to what it is all about, but in the meantime I decided to give you an opportunity to pitch in and help.
The concept is simple and revolves around the question “Did you know?” and climate science.
Here’s how it works.
Every one of us has some little tidbit of information they learned about climate science that isn’t being told by the MSM and doesn’t fit the narrative. I’m looking for a series of “Did you know?” tidbits to use in an upcoming presentation. For example:
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Did you know?
The infrared response of Carbon Dioxide in Earth’s atmosphere is curved (logarithmic) rather than straight (linear) as is often portrayed in science stories?
This means that a runaway greenhouse effect is not possible on Earth.
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As shown above, the concept and supporting graphic fits on a single slide. That’s what I’m shooting for.
Using the example above, I’d be indebted to you if you could provide similar examples in comments. Please provide a URL for a supporting graphic if you have one, along with a URL that provides a source/citation for the information.
Concepts that are just words without graphics are acceptable too, provided they are short and succinct. They have to fit on a single slide.
Other readers are also welcome to fact check the submissions in comments, which will help make my job easier.
This post will remain a top post sticky for a few days. Thank you for your consideration.
Many alarmist journalists show pictures of polar bears, floods, melting glaciers and a hundred other things as proof of ACC. Its just fear mongering of course, but the most concise response that I’ve seen came from JoNova a few years ago. Its a simple and clear tidbit that sticks in my mind.
So paraphrasing JoNova, it might go something like this; “Did you know that images of swimming polar bears and melting glaciers are evidence of climate change only, they are not evidence that CO2 is the cause.”
did you know…that co2 is an essential atmospheric gas for life on earth, and that studies demonstrate that below a level of 150ppm[someone give citation and review pls] all life on earth, starting with plants, would die within a year [review pls].
Dr Burns says:
October 21, 2012 at 8:15 pm
>> Steve from Rockwood says:
>> October 21, 2012 at 7:43 pm
>>The point being that if a doubling of CO2 causes a 3-4 deg C increase in global temperatures
Where is the evidence that atmospheric CO2 has ever cause ANY global temperature increase ? Without evidence, you can choose any theory you wish.
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I am not the one who has chosen the theories. I don’t believe in them. I thought that climate scientists believe that a doubling of CO2 will lead to an increase in temperature of somewhere between 0.6 and 8 deg C. If you choose a high forcing such as 3-4 deg C and extrapolate forward (to the high CO2 levels we have seen in the past) you quickly realize that such a high sensitivity is impossible because the world would have to have been too hot for life. Reconciling previous high CO2 levels with moderate temperatures when you believe in such high forcings is not my problem – I don’t believe it. I’m sorry for pointing this out so poorly.
Did you know that now, that the atmospheric CO2 myth has played ad nauseam, and has been thorougly discredited, a new threat is being carefully created: “Ocean acidification”!! It is already playing in bankrupt Greece, by the same media that were pushing AGW for the past 5 years. Much harder to sail around with packs of litmus paper… And it will acidify critically in deep caves, where no man has ever gone, and it will drill holes right through the molten core which will then explode in our faces if we don’t repent.
Did you know that the world’s 6 billion people produce 36.6 billlion metric tons of carbon dioxide annualy by simply breathing while fossil fuel burning produces 21.3 billion tons or 58% of the amount causing by humans breathing?
I hesitate to publicize these figures as it may cause a nasty re-focusing on the part of warming alarmists.
At the risk of re-focusing warming alarmists….did you know that the entire output of all fossil fuel burning annually is 21.3 billion metric ton(nes) of carbon dioxide which is 58% of the 36.6 billion metric ton(nes) of carbon dioxide created by the breathing of the earth’s human population alone?
In industry we call this a one point lesson, here’s a few of my favorites:
Did you know that computer models that predict net positive feedbacks also predict less outgoing IR from warming but satellite observations show increased outgoing IR?
http://www.drroyspencer.com/Lindzen-and-Choi-GRL-2009.pdf
Did you know that stratospheric cooling is a “fingerprint” of GHG warming and that stratospheric cooling stopped circa 1995?
http://www.acd.ucar.edu/Research/Highlight/stratosphere.shtml
http://www1.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/cmb/temp-and-precip/upper-air/uahncdc.ls
http://www.arl.noaa.gov/documents/JournalPDFs/RandelEtal.JGR2009.pdf
Did you know the sun has been at grand maximum and that the ocean is a dynamic heat sink capable of absorbing and releasing huge amounts of energy into or out of the atmosphere?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/10/14/raimund-muscheler-says-that-a-steady-high-level-of-forcing-cant-cause-warming/
http://bobtisdale.wordpress.com/2012/09/03/everything-you-every-wanted-to-know-about-el-nino-and-la-nina-2/#more-2104
Did you know that the “well-funded and organized denial machine” is a myth?
http://joannenova.com.au/2012/05/us-government-only-spent-70-billion-on-climate-since-2008/
Did you know that for atmospheric CO2 to just neutralize (make average pH=7) the ocean it would have to be about 6,000 ppm short term and over 11,000 ppm long term?
http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=kt167nb66r&chunk.id=ch06&toc.depth=1&toc.id=ch06&brand=eschol
http://www-naweb.iaea.org/napc/ih/documents/global_cycle/vol%20I/cht_i_09.pdf
Did you know that CAGW belief requires ignoring “when we are” in long term climate cyles?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/16/the-end-holocene-or-how-to-make-out-like-a-madoff-climate-change-insurer/
For the record: if I’m wrong about something I want Richard or anyone else to point it out to me. Nobody’s perfect, although I believe everything is factualy correct, I’m sure my wording could be improved upon.
Did you know that ozone is a very unstable substance: at -50 degrees C the half life of ozone is 3 months? This explains why the ‘ozone hole’ occurs every year in the Antarctic and why it will continue to occur whether or not CFCs are present.
Did you know…
Al Gores movie ‘An Inconvenient Truth’ was banned on the orders of a UK High Court Judge, from being shown in UK schools, without significant warnings to the children, because ‘nine errors in the film which went against current mainstream scientific consensus’.
He branded it as ‘alarmist’ and ‘exaggerated’
Did you know that pure water is more acidic than sea water? Did you know that the oceans were more acidic in the past and it did not lead to extinction of life?
Did you know that the oceans today are not at all acidic, they are caustic. Did you know that today’s oceans are more caustic than they were 10 million years ago? Did you know that the ice ages have made the oceans more caustic?
Did you know that caustic solutions dissolve fat and hair, which is how we produce soap and depilatories? Did you know that it is not possible to make the oceans acidic, because of the large amounts of salts dissolved in the ocean which act as a chemical buffer.
pg 53.
http://www.soest.hawaii.edu/oceanography/faculty/zeebe_files/Publications/ZeebePQ01.pdf
Did you know:
Svante Arrhenius in 1908 was probably the first denier of catastrophic climate change caused by man, and felt global warming would actually be good for the earth.
In 1896 he was the first scientist to attempt to calculate how changes in the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere could alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect.[6]
he suggested that the human emission of CO2 would be strong enough to prevent the world from entering a new ice age, and that a warmer earth would be needed to feed the rapidly increasing population
By the influence of the increasing percentage of carbonic acid in the atmosphere, we may hope to enjoy ages with more equable and better climates, especially as regards the colder regions of the earth, ages when the earth will bring forth much more abundant crops than at present, for the benefit of rapidly propagating mankind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius
Today Phil Jones would be advocating changing the peer review process to keep such heretic views hidden.
Did you know –
the SkS folks are going crazy trying to “correct” all of the factual information in this thread.
LOL
Mods – sorry, I just couldn’t resist posting this.
Did you know that global tenperatures have not risen significantly for the last 15 years? Therefore, any climate “wierding” observed this year and attributed to global warming must have been triggered 15 years ago!! Sorry, I don’t buy it.
Did you know that the earth as a whole is much warmer in the Northern Hemisphere (NH) summer than it is in the NH winter?
CO2 is lower in the NH summer when the whole earth is warmer and higher in the NH winter when when it is colder.
Did you know that scientific theories are always provisional? That is, they are always provisional. Theories may, however, be nullified by experimental results.
Did you know the the earth has warmed 15C over the past 15 thousand years, while recent warming is less than 1C? Did you know that this warming has made human civilization possible.
Did you know that when the earth was colder that famines were common? Did you know that as little as 60 years ago when conditions were colder, that crop failures and famines were common? Did you know that today, with a warmer earth we are feeding more people and people are living longer, in greater health and prosperity. than at any time in history?
Did you know that as a species, humans were nearly extinct 70 thousand years ago, with fewer than 2000 individuals left alive? Did you know that this near extinction occurred when the earth was colder than it is today?
Did you know that of all the animals on earth, humans are one of the best adapted to deal with warming conditions? Did you know that human beings cannot survive temperatures lower than 28C / 82F without technology (fire, clothing, etc)? Did you know that the average temperature of the earth is only 15C / 60F?
Did you know that the average temperature of the earth is fatal to unprotected humans? Did you know that without technology, humans cannot survive outside of tropical rainforests? Did you know that a naked human will die of exposure in the natural environment, if left outside almost anywhere on earth?
Did you know that life changes the climate of the earth to benefit life? In warming the planet humans are changing the planet to make it more suitable to human civilization.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2975862.stm
Let me try that again:
Did you know that scientific theories are always provisional? That is, they are can never be “proven”. Theories may, however, be nullified by experimental results.
Did you know that the “Greenhouse Effect” only works when there is a barrier to convection, such as the glass roof of a real greenhouse? When gases in an unconfined atmosphere are heated, they expand, and Archimedes Principle works to cause them to rise away from the planetary surface.
Did you know
“that in the UK, during the past half century, there does not seem to have been a single case where a non-medical researcher has been officially found to have committed fraud.”
Which is incredible.
At least someone in the last half century must be getting away with it.
http://www.bishop-hill.net/blog/2012/6/28/uk-conference-of-science-journalists.html
Roger Knights says:
October 22, 2012 at 3:45 am
30 Low-lying island nations aren’t lying any lower now than they were ten years ago.
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I have a map of the Pacific Island group of Tonga, drawn by William Bligh in the 1770’s. I spent a year sailing in Tonga in a 40 foot sailboat in 1988-89 using this chart. The reason why is simple. Tonga is so remote that no one has drawn a better chart of Tonga since then.
The water depths on Bligh’s 200 year old chart of Tonga were still accurate to within 1 foot.
The problem is not climate change, it is that humans are very short lived in relation to climate. We are like mayflies that only live one day. We see the sun rise in the morning and think we are seeing climate change. Nature works in cycles. Today’s global warming was global cooling 60 years ago.
JohnWho:
re your post at October 22, 2012 at 7:12 am
Did you know that mention of something happening at that den of iniquity encourages people to check it by going there and this benefits the den financially?
Richard
Reply to richardscourtney at October 22, 2012 at 4:00 am
I think you did misinterpret Steve from Rockwood.
He is quite right that temperatures were higher in the Jurassic and that CO2 was higher in the Jurassic but the feedbacks (a logarithmic feedback) don’t add up. If the CO2 caused the higher temperature then the current sensitivity woul dbe different to as it is observed to be by anybody.
Steve from Rockwood is right to point out that the higher temperatures and higher CO2 in dinosaur days do not a convincing AGW argument make.
The Cretaceous provides an excellent test case for climate models. Even with its high CO2 (literal greenhouse levels of ~1000 ppm), models can’t reproduce its heat & equability, ie the fact that the temperature gradient from equator to poles was slight. Climate sensitivity to CO2 doubling has to be absurdly high for the GCMs to work, even with lots of tinkering & assumption mongering.
Interestingly, a 2008 study found a solution to the extra heat problem, which of course was not welcomed in Consensusland (despite emanating from the belly of the science-molesting beast, Penn State): cloudlessness due to lack of biologically-induced condensation nuclei.
http://www.sciencemag.org/content/320/5873/195.short
Did you know that the Earths climate has been warmer than today ,for most of the past 10,000 years.
Did you know, the global warming from 1960-2000 was primarily in the Arctic? The latitude band from 75-85 N experienced an approximate 10C annual average temperature increase. http://justdata.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/rawtempbylatitude_23.jpg
For the context & source code used see also: http://justdata.wordpress.com/2009/12/28/step-by-step-debunking-climate-change/
(search for “two surprises”)
A more detailed look at the raw temperature data in the arctic zone:
http://justdata.wordpress.com/arctic-trends/
Parahandy:
At October 22, 2012 at 7:28 am you say
Yes. The pertinent data are:
The Earth warms by ~3.8 deg,C from June to January and cools by ~3.8 deg,C from January to June each year (which puts into perspective assertions that a rise of 2 deg.C in global temperature needs to be avoided).
According to the Mauna Loa data atmospheric CO2 rises by ~7 ppmv towards the NH summer maximum and falls by ~5.5 ppmv towards the NH winter minimum. The difference of ~1.5 ppmv is the annual rise in atmospheric CO2.
http://www.esrl.noaa.gov/gmd/ccgg/trends/
Richard