The Autumnal Equinox has just occurred, at 2:40PM UTC (7:49AM PDT) marking the end of summer. Despite our Jay Zwally countdown to the end of summer reaching zero on the sidebar, the Arctic sea ice is still there and gaining fast.
That’s one more alarmist prediction that did not come true, even though we had a new record low on Arctic extent, while simultaneously setting new record highs in the Antarctic.
I’m going to take a few days off to be with family and practice some target and skeet shooting, one of my hobbies. After this week, I think I’ve earned it.
Moderators will check in periodically. Thanks everyone for your consideration. This might be a good time to think about inviting a friend to visit WUWT. – Anthony
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R2DTOO says:
September 23, 2012 at 10:45 am
“Has anyone put together the lists of scientists who are skeptics. I have seen the Oregon list and reference to several others. There may be enough in total to kill the 97% garbage. Any references?”
The 97% claim is debunked for a long time already.
http://opinion.financialpost.com/2011/01/03/lawrence-solomon-97-cooked-stats/#ixzz1A5px63Ax
This will not stop the MSM and the warmist scientists and bloggers from repeating it time and time again. They don’t operate with logic. They are busying themselves only with finding better ways of convincing the public. You can debunk it 10 million times and they won’t stop.
The only way to stop them is cutting of the money supply. If you’re not in the EU, voting might help. Not buying media products might help. Etc.
Miss. Strawberry Shortcake,
(Pamela Gray says: September 23, 2012 at 9:07 am)
Cool.
You are a better man than I am. Tried cowboy long range shooting with a Sharps replica in .45-70. Gave up when I discovered that I can’t see good enough at 200 yards, much less 300. I can plead to being 67; that’s why I miss. It’s convienent.
If you ever get to the Austin Texas area, give us a shout. We can travel the BBQ trail (it’s a Texas thing), drink beer, shoot guns, and go to a good Bible Thumping church service. All us Red Necks do that stuff. And, if the season is right, go to a political rally with a stump speach that would put a Philidelphia lawyer to shame. The wife and I would be proud to have you and yours sit at our table.
Haven’t been to all of them on the BBQ trail, but so far the Central Market in Luling is my favorite.
http://www.tourism-tools.com/texasbbq/Welcome.html
Steamboat Jack (Jon Jewett’s evil twin)
R2DTOO says:
September 23, 2012 at 10:45 am
All you have to do is examine how the 97% is derived to know that having a larger skeptics list is not even necessary. IMHO.
Anxious to see what Steve at junkscience.com has in store for us on Monday.
wikeroy says:
September 23, 2012 at 9:50 am
“Would you cut off the branch you are sitting on?”
And? These guys have been sitting on cut off branches for years now.
They are like the roadrunner, the branch does not fall until they notice it is cut. 🙂
Magnums are best for hunting and plinking, more co2 that way. 🙂
12 gauge, 44 and 7mm rifle.
Bow, Oneidas. Hard to calibrate but, when they’re on, they’re on.
The chicken littles of the world need to stop clucking so loud. They are creating a division as to what science is supposed to be. I might actually listen to them more if they didn’t get so durogatory so much. Like, say that water vapor is the most powerfull greenhouse gas and that’s what all forms of powerplants produce and pump into the atmosphere in vast amounts. An argument like that might at least be somewhat feasible.
Steamboat Jack says:
”Shooters,
Should your local politicians make firearm ownership impossible, you might consider a move to Texas.”
Now, far be it from me to instigate a war between states, BUT, NC as long as you’re not right around the Containment Area for Relocated Yankees is pretty gun friendly. It’s pretty common to see a shotgun in the back window of a pickup truck and no one really seems to get uptight. I even pulled through a license check once with my AR-15 and the cop just asked if it was a real M-16. (LOL)
As for fun, for my money plinking beets skeet and CA combined. Give me a bag of balloons, a few hundred rounds of .223 and 7.62×39 each, a few dozen rounds of 9mm largo, .44 magnum, and .308 each, and we’ve got the makings of some serious fun. (The .44 magnum is for getting the ranges’ attention while busting cinder blocks to smithereens.) BTW, I do have some CA guns as well and they are quite fun and do spend ammo ($) at a much slower rate which is nice on those days when you’re entertainment fund is low.
Pamela,
I do have to say 300 yards with a .22 is mighty impressive. I have a bolt action sniper’s trainer .22 with a sweet two stage trigger that might do that. I’ll give it a try sometime in between emptying 20 & 30 round mags and 75 round drums into evil balloons. (Yes, balloons are evil, much like zombies, brainless hordes intent on taking over the world and spreading mayhem.) What kind of drop are you seeing @ur momisugly 300 yards? (Just to give me a bit of a hint as to where to start my adjustment.)
Interesting and enjoyable screed from Pat Condell.
DirkH says:
I am aware of the origin of the 97% figure. That wasn’t my question. What about the 30,000? in the Oregon petition, the NASA scientists?, another group that was about 1,000 etc. Is anyone running a similar list now? I realize it is difficult to devise questions that really get the answers. I also don’t want another “consensus”. I wouldn’t mind putting my name on a list somewhere.
Gunga Din says:
September 22, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Kelvin Vaughan says:
September 22, 2012 at 8:22 am
AGW has caused big brown stains in my lawn! There is no doubt about the cause being AGW!
No Gunga Din it is definately AGW. He is a strange dog and he always urinates on the lawn. He won’t go when I take him for a walk.
Hiliary Ostrov,
Sorry. No sale. I won’t even click on your link.
Weaver could well be extreme, but Delingpole is not. Certainly not in this regard. There is no opposite “extreme” that I can give credit to in this respect. Are you not a carbon-based life form?
Now, please, do us all a favour….
Just how inaccurate was the PBS NewsHour program?
Muller a skeptic – No
4-5 degrees warming in California – No
Characterization of Judith Curry – Wrong
Quoting the 97% figure – Bogus
Muller’s description of peer review – Wrong
It’s almost as though our host was the only factually correct segment on it, yet that portion receives the most criticism, WUWT?
R2DTOO says:
September 23, 2012 at 12:00 pm
“I am aware of the origin of the 97% figure. That wasn’t my question. What about the 30,000? in the Oregon petition, the NASA scientists?”
The problem is not making a survey. The problem is that the media will accuse you of beating your wife, not paying your taxes, not recycling your rubbish and sleeping with an octopus.
Oh Oh mountain climbing becoming more dangerous due to warming.
In recent years, climbers have complained of deteriorating conditions and increasing accident risks in Nepal, home to eight of the world’s 14 highest peaks.
Earlier this year, mountain guide Apa, who has climbed Mount Everest a record 21 times, travelled across Nepal for months to campaign about the toll global warming had taken on the peaks.
He told The Associated Press that now the mountains have less ice and snow, making it more difficult for climbers to use their tools to grip the slopes.
Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/world/canadian-reported-among-missing-in-deadly-nepal-avalanche-1.967985#ixzz27KCPf5o2
Hengist says:
September 23, 2012 at 2:58 am
How much do you get for trolling on skeptic blogs?
Robert Austin says:
September 23, 2012 at 8:17 am
“Best advice is to just ignore Hengist.”
Gladly. This has been all covered previously* and any repetition is a waste of time. [Hint: during *Gleickgate]
Further, it is nowhere near as interesting as the shooting sports discussion going on. My concern at the moment is whether or not the fires to the north of us will drive cougars and coyotes down the canyon and out here on to the alluvial fan where we live. Maybe it is time to start “carrying” on a regular basis!
Too many gun nuts here. Try atlatls and other primitive weapons. You might need the skills before long. 🙂
Pamela Gray says:
September 22, 2012 at 9:37 am
At 500 yards with a .22, how can you tell the difference between an inconsistent shooter and a puff of wind?
And where do you live that you have a 500 yard shooting range?
When Atlatls are outlawed, only outlaws will have Atlatls! Atlatls can bring down bison; they are nothing to scoff at. They are as deadly today as they were 20,000 years ago! They are the weapon of choice of Mesoamerican Marauders. Ban the atlatl!
(Do I need to put /sarc off??)
Regards,
Steamboat Jack
Good to hear Anthony is taking a break (exept for his cheating on it ;-). He’s been prolific again, hopefully has motivation to work on his big paper more.
From Alan Watt, CD (Certified Denialist), Level 7 on September 23, 2012 at 3:11 pm:
A puff of wind swears less.
Drop depends on the grains. Use 40 grain and dial in at least a 30 inch drop. If you shoot in the morning, windage is not too bad. But even on windy days, windage is less of a problem for accuracy than bullet drop. I like to shoot at the Eagle Cap range in NE Oregon which has targets out to 1000 yds. The berms are dirt with grass flattops. I walk the bullets up the berms (allows me to see the dirt puffs) till I have the target zeroed in. We use microphones and receivers so we can hear the plink. It is just way fun!
Speaking of shooting something that hurts, I shot a 50 cal revolver that left a bruise on the thumb pad of my hand that was so bad it showed up on the other side! Ouch!!! I missed the paper target and shot the wood frame in two. Big, FAT bullets! I didn’t shoot it twice.
But the fun really starts when I shoot the pre-1900’s shotgun at the cowboy shoots. The damn thing is so long that I can’t pump the next cartridge in without taking it off my shoulder but then the butt end gets caught between my shoulder and the “mammary” on that side. I’m not fast in that event due to the “mammary” thing, but I never miss. I get along quite well with shotguns.
Interesting article at Science Daily: “Constraining World Trade Is Unlikely to Help the Climate, Study Finds”
See Science Daily article (press release) at http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120923145056.htm . See actual journal article at http://www.nature.com/nclimate/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nclimate1630.html .
Another interesting article at Science Daily: “Stratosphere Targets Deep Sea to Shape Climate: North Atlantic ‘Achilles Heel’ Lets Upper Atmosphere Affect the Abyss”
“It is not new that the stratosphere impacts the troposphere,” says Reichler, an associate professor of atmospheric sciences at the University of Utah. “It also is not new that the troposphere impacts the ocean. But now we actually demonstrated an entire link between the stratosphere, the troposphere and the ocean.” Note that their observational data matches their models.
See Science Daily article (press release) at http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/09/120923141212.htm . See actual journal article at
http://www.nature.com/ngeo/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/ngeo1586.html .
In honor of JoNova, ACCOUNT SUSPENDED
Government burn $70 billion a year subsidizing renewables, and wild claims of “fossil fuel subsidies” debunked
by Joanne Nova
When activists protest about “fossil fuel” subsidies, it is a case of extreme-wordsmithing. Like chinese-whispers, the truth gets turned 180 degrees. It takes a string of half truths stacked in a series to come up with something which is so completely counter to reality it is meaningless.
The reality is that governments around the world are paying billions each year to prop up an industry that is inefficient, uncompetitive and unproductive. It’s money that is desperately needed in health or in real medical and scientific research.
“More than US$70 billion of support is provided by governments to renewable energy production and consumption worldwide.”
[IEA (The International Energy Agency, which promotes “green energy” in it’s header)]
That’s an annual figure. And the plan seems to be even more subsidies. (I thought the plan was to make renewables competitive?)
Source: IEA Key Graphs…
Source: IEA Key Graphs
Could it be $200 billion?
This UN group has an even higher number. I don’t know exactly how they define “green stimulus” spending, perhaps it was a one-off:
[UNCTAD]
“Green government procurement will also be essential in the early stages of a transition to a green economy. In 2009, global green stimulus […]
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