Open thread weekend

The Autumnal Equinox has just occurred, at 2:40PM UTC (7:49AM PDT) marking the end of summer. Despite our Jay Zwally countdown to the end of summer reaching zero on the sidebar, the Arctic sea ice is still there and gaining fast.

That’s one more alarmist prediction that did not come true, even though we had a new record low on Arctic extent, while simultaneously setting new record highs in the Antarctic.

I’m going to take a few days off to be with family and practice some target and skeet shooting, one of my hobbies. After this week, I think I’ve earned it.

Moderators will check in periodically. Thanks everyone for your consideration. This might be a good time to think about inviting a friend to visit WUWT.  – Anthony

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HaroldW
September 22, 2012 12:11 pm

climatebeagle –
I earlier sent an email to the ombudsman with the NCDC link which disproves Dr. Collins’ statement, asking if they fact-checked it. Don’t know if they respond individually or only through the blog.

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
September 22, 2012 12:15 pm

Canadian IPCC-nik, Andrew Weaver has recently declared that he will be a candidate for the Green Party in BC’s spring 2013 election. And as you may (or may not) know James Delingpole has entered the political fray as an independent anti-windfarm candidate in a U.K. by-election.
I would be extremely surprised if Weaver would ever declare that human generated CO2 is anything less than the equivalent of a “barrage of intergactic ballistic missiles”. I would be equally surprised if Delingpole would ever declare that CO2 – whether generated by humans or mother nature – is anything less than crucial for the survival of our planet.
If an election slate were to be limited to Delingpole vs Weaver, it’s probably not too much of a stretch to suggest that those who might favour one or the other would consider the opponent as “extreme”. But I wonder if there is a correlation (if not causal relationship) to be found in fear of CO2 and “extreme” voting.
So I invite you to step outside the earth bound voting booth and imagine a virtual constituency for which an election is pending: Delingpole vs Weaver.
Survey participation invited: Does fear of CO2 cause extreme voting?
Please cast your ballot … and spread the word 🙂
Thanks,
Hilary Ostrov

tallbloke
September 22, 2012 12:24 pm

Vuk: another possibility is that the Moon is semi synchronized with planetary motions which are in turn synchronised with solar activity cycles. Nice work anyway, I’ll post the graph.

Political Junkie
September 22, 2012 12:29 pm

There’s no end to proving and disproving global warming alarmism:
Via Mark Steyn:
CBS News, in an alarming story headlined “Male Genitalia Shrinking”, is reporting that global warming may be responsible for a ten per cent reduction in male private parts over the last fifty years. According to this alleged Italian study: Air pollution has been shown to ‘negatively impact penis size’.
So no hockey stick there.
We may have to call these Italian scientists as expert witnesses.
A reader chimes in:
Here we go again with something about global warming which can be disproved immediately. Go outside when it is -20 degrees (either F or C) and expose the aforementioned item to the atmosphere and see if it shrinks more at that temp or at 100 degrees F. I rest my case.
This science stuff is easy!!! 😉
(Oh yes, do this in an isolated place or the authorities may haul you off to the hoosegow. They probably won’t buy the argument that you are conducting a scientific experiment on global warming.)
More reader comments:
“We may have to call these Italian scientists as expert witnesses.”
(But the evidence may not stand up in court:)
I thought shrinkage was due to cold, proving that the hockey stick graph really is hiding the decline.
Whew!!! Sure glad that’s been explained.
Talk to any old man. Nothing’s the same as it was 50 years ago.

David Ball
September 22, 2012 12:30 pm

george e smith says:
September 22, 2012 at 10:11 am
Thank you Mr. Smith !! Kim Rhode. She puts me to shame !! My son, who is 8 has shown himself to be incredibly accurate, even at distance. He is a “natural”. I prefer the bow.

David Ball
September 22, 2012 12:32 pm

O H Dahlsveen says:
September 22, 2012 at 11:40 am
Sometimes we do not see other interpretations of what we write. LMAO. I hide the ammunition from the missus if I go out on the town too late and too often !!

commieBob
September 22, 2012 12:36 pm

Pamela Gray says:
September 22, 2012 at 9:37 am
For right handed rifle shooters, the left ear is the ear that receives the greater noise impact, not the ear next to the gun. I know why. Care to guess?

As Ric Werme says, it probably has something to do with the report being weakest 180 deg. away from the muzzle. I used to know a guy who was hard of hearing because he was curious about what artillery would sound like if you stood in front of it. Yes, it’s much quieter if you stand behind a gun.

September 22, 2012 12:51 pm

Hi Tb
Luni-solar tidal oscillations (helpful) illustration you can find here ftp://ftp.flaterco.com/xtide/tidal_datums_and_their_applications.pdf
page10

R.S.Brown
September 22, 2012 12:52 pm

For those interested, Dr. John Christy’s testimony before the House
Energy/Commerce subcommittee on September 20th can be found at:
http://energycommerce.house.gov/sites/republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/files/Hearings/EP/20120920/HHRG-112-IF03-WState-ChristyJ-20120920.pdf
Dr. Christy goes into the shortfalls of Tmax/Tmin as currently used in
climate models, adds insight into Arctic/Antarctic ice observations, and
gives reasons for doubting CO2 as a main driver for increase near-earth
surface temperatures.
The good folks at PBS, especially their producers, reporters and ombudsman
will never read this testimony for fear of being exposed to fact-based heretical
ideas about climate modeling and the statistcal refutation of lame
assertions of recent increases in “extreme” weather events.
For fear of confusing the issues for their viewers, and fostering another
blizzard of organized e-mail complaints, PBS will never report on the
existance of such testimony.

milodonharlani
September 22, 2012 12:53 pm

John:
Range of Trident SLBM & quietness of our boomers are such that they don’t need to hide under Arctic ice. By contrast, high latitude bastions are essential to Russian SSBN ops.
Not that I expect Arctic sea ice to disappear in this century.
OTOH, it apparently effectively did during the Holocene Climatic Optimum. The Team pretends, without good evidence, that the current melting is greater than at any time in the past 1450 years (to their credit, they admit their paleoclimatic proxies are weak after the 16th century, but that caveat doesn’t show up in the paper’s title). Better data and statistical analysis in other studies however suggest that there was more melting then even this extreme year (thanks to freak cyclone on Aug 5, when the trend diverged from the prior low year 2007) in the Medieval Warm Period, about 1000 years ago.

Steve from Rockwood
September 22, 2012 12:57 pm

DirkH says:
September 22, 2012 at 11:57 am
Toto says:
September 22, 2012 at 11:24 am
“This book is a response to The Omnivore’s Dilemma by Michael Pollan. They take many of that book’s claims and demolish them, to the point of overkill. This book is not light reading, but it’s worth it to see the real economist’s view of buzz phrases like sustainability, self-sufficiency, “small is beautiful”, etc.”
The Locavore and even more extreme, “loca-consumer” idea (consuming only goods produced in your area) is making the rounds in Germany and I shred it to pieces on economic grounds every time a coworker brings it up.
—————————————
I recall a recent radio show where some local farmers where trying to explain why eating food grown within a 100 km of your home was such a good idea – environmental reasons, sustainability, freshness etc. Turns out they were also major exporters of food.
When I walk into a grocery store and look at the fresh produce, the vast majority of it CAN’T even be grown in my country (Canada). I’m not interested in eating bannock and beans all winter. My house would explode.

Steve from Rockwood
September 22, 2012 1:00 pm

john says:
September 22, 2012 at 12:08 pm
wow 3.4 million I don’t remember predicting that it would go that LOW. 2020 Looks like a good estimate to me for the first year of a summer with no sea ice in the Arctic. Good thing that the US NAvy is planning ahead, we used to be able to hide our boomers under that ice
——————————–
There were no reports of dead canaries so what’s the fuss?

milodonharlani
September 22, 2012 1:07 pm

Vuk & Tallbloke:
What about lunar effects on sea ice & icebergs calved from glaciers?
http://lunarscience.nasa.gov/articles/did-the-moon-contribute-to-the-sinking-of-the-titanic/

Peter Thomson
September 22, 2012 1:11 pm

21.08 London time. What’s up at Jo Nova. “service suspended”?

September 22, 2012 1:11 pm

JoNova down again!

Martine
September 22, 2012 1:45 pm

Jo Nova — account suspended again !?

September 22, 2012 1:45 pm

Kelvin Vaughan says:
September 22, 2012 at 8:22 am
AGW has caused big brown stains in my lawn! There is no doubt about the cause being AGW!
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Maybe it was just the grubs that promote CAGW? Too much Lew on the lawn? 😎

September 22, 2012 1:47 pm

Pamela Gray
Could directivity curve for forward casting sound pressure source be an explanation:
http://personal.cityu.edu.hk/~bsapplec/Fire/Image325.gif

wsbriggs
September 22, 2012 1:53 pm

Pamela, I’m with the left ear closest to the muzzle contingent.
I too enjoy shooting defenseless paper and things that go GOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGG! The Steel Challenge is entirely too much fun! For those of you who are curious, check YouTube for Jerry Miculek, K.C. Eusebio.
USPSA/IPSC
also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Challenge

September 22, 2012 1:58 pm

saved the previous 30 days of DMI to my archive.
Pamela Gray says:
September 22, 2012 at 9:37 am
Also a “fellow” shooter but decidely female and I don’t know the female form of “fellow”.
=====================================================================
“Fellowan”? “Wofellowan”? “Wofellow”?
If I was on the receiving end of the message, I really wouldn’t care.
“Femailman”?

jpfife
September 22, 2012 2:01 pm

Nobody note this from The Register?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/21/lewandowsky_trick_cyclist_rides_again/
Again it’s peer reviewed and there’s a link in the article to the actual paper on Psychological Science in the Public Interest where it’s available as a PDF.

jpfife
September 22, 2012 2:04 pm

Nobody note this from The Register?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/09/21/lewandowsky_trick_cyclist_rides_again/
Again it’s peer reviewed and there’s a link in the article to the actual paper on Psychological Science in the Public Interest where it’s available as a PDF.

NetDr
September 22, 2012 2:08 pm

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/station_data/
Click on California !
You can only see individual stations. not the whole state.
That allows you to not see the big UHI sources like LA.

September 22, 2012 2:09 pm

As a student of Warmist Media antics I was fascinated to come across an article in The Guardian by Mr Ben Goldacre called ‘The Drugs Don’t Work’.
It was a long and interesting. Using many examples it gave a disturbing account of how, dodgy ‘scientific’ research, data publication and hard sell techniques are used to get ineffective and even dangerous drugs onto the market. From personal experience I am inclined to believe that this may in some instances be true.
But the thing that caused my jaw to drop open was when Mr Goldacre,( a staunch defender of Climate ‘S’cience,) went on to describe how, research, statistics, peer review, publication etc etc had been corrupted.
“The concern is that these discussions happened with the data locked behind closed doors, visible only to regulators. ”
“This means that a company can see if a trial is going against it, and can interfere as it progresses, distorting the results. Even if the study was allowed to finish, the data could still be suppressed:”
Those are just two examples of the crimes of ‘Big Pharma’.
Sound familiar?
The article is used to plug his new book called ‘Bad Pharma’ and in it he presumably goes on to detail even more examples of nefarious behaviour and the global conspiracy to deceive by thousands of ‘peer reviewed, published scientists’. Like we’ve never seen anything like that before.
I’m banned from the Guardian…but maybe some WUWT people might like to drop by and tell him what a clown and hypocrite he is.