Open thread weekend

The Autumnal Equinox has just occurred, at 2:40PM UTC (7:49AM PDT) marking the end of summer. Despite our Jay Zwally countdown to the end of summer reaching zero on the sidebar, the Arctic sea ice is still there and gaining fast.

That’s one more alarmist prediction that did not come true, even though we had a new record low on Arctic extent, while simultaneously setting new record highs in the Antarctic.

I’m going to take a few days off to be with family and practice some target and skeet shooting, one of my hobbies. After this week, I think I’ve earned it.

Moderators will check in periodically. Thanks everyone for your consideration. This might be a good time to think about inviting a friend to visit WUWT.  – Anthony

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September 22, 2012 8:06 am

Coincidentally I have just checked my favourite online planetarium (www.skyviewcafe.com) to see if the equinox had happened yet – and it had. (It might be worth putting a link to Skyviewcafe on WUWT?)
Have a good break Anthony and don’t kill too many skeets… You are doing a fantastic job here. I’ve just recommended WUWT to everyone on Facebook.

Editor
September 22, 2012 8:10 am

Enjoy the rest. You’ve deserved it!

Aussie Love
September 22, 2012 8:13 am

I bet Lew starts howling even more at the next full moon.

Editor
September 22, 2012 8:17 am

I now have a dedicated tornado page, so check in if you need the latest data, or archives.
The August report will be out soon, once NOAA have finalised their figures.
http://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2012/09/16/new-tornado-page/

Alexb
September 22, 2012 8:19 am

Not only are you a criminal denier but weaponized also,my gawd!
😉

David Ball
September 22, 2012 8:22 am

How do you prepare “skeet”? Kidding. Both family and skeet shooting will be rewarding and cathartic. Enjoy.

Kelvin Vaughan
September 22, 2012 8:22 am

AGW has caused big brown stains in my lawn! There is no doubt about the cause being AGW!

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
September 22, 2012 8:29 am

Arctic loses ice, Antarctica gains ice.
Arctic warms up, Antarctica (with the Southern Ocean) cools down.
Not only is our planet and its climate not normally gentle and unchanging, it’s actually bipolar.

Francisco
September 22, 2012 8:31 am

Jo Nova’s site says “account suspended” again.

David Ball
September 22, 2012 8:42 am

Would like to hear the former astronauts take on the PBS fiasco. Gentlemen?

September 22, 2012 8:42 am

Jo Nova must really have an impact in Australia! To quote Gandhi: “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” (Yes, “account suspended” when I checked too.)
–Ahrvid

John West
September 22, 2012 8:46 am

The advocates for taking action on climate change never fail to ask in one form or another: Why not just trust the experts?
Why have criminal trials? Are not criminal investigators experts on crime and criminals? Why don’t we trust these experts, these professionals to decide the truth? Why do we leave it up to the amateur jury to decide truth on questions of fact? Why are these experts not trusted to ignore confirmation bias, noble cause corruption, and conflicts of interest? Perhaps the difference is the Ph.D. Does a Ph.D. make one immune to human failings? What about a criminal investigator with a Ph.D.?
The truth is that the average person is perfectly capable of weighing evidence on subjects that they are not experts in. Wrongful convictions happen even without just trusting the experts, often due to a jury not being allowed to see ALL the evidence; a biased trial. A trial jury has a limited ability to detect when they’re being deprived of vital information, whereas we the jury of all public policy matters are not sequestered from the rest of the world and contrary ideas and arguments. As a public policy juror I listened to the CAGW arguments and then sought additional information (this was 1994, so no WUWT). What I found was that I was not being told the whole truth, so as any good juror would do, I suspended judgment until the evidence (all the evidence) was sufficient to reasonably draw a valid conclusion.
The jury is still out.

Elvis is Chasing Me Across the Grassy Knoll
September 22, 2012 8:49 am

“Not only is our planet and its climate not normally gentle and unchanging, it’s actually bipolar.”
A shrink might be able to help with that. There’s a shrink in Australia who can heal a crazy planet.

September 22, 2012 8:51 am

Ha! Knew it! A fellow shooter…. Go get some clays Anthony.
Soren from AGW and turbine-infested Denmark

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
September 22, 2012 8:55 am

[snip – waaayyy over the top -mod]

climatebeagle
September 22, 2012 8:57 am

“WILLIAM COLLINS, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory: This timeline is showing how the temperature all over the globe has changed since the beginning of the 20th century. Look at how warm California has gotten, four or five degrees hotter than our historical climate.”
Does anyone know of any reference for California now being 4-5 degrees hotter? I’ve e-mailed Dr Collins and Spencer Michels (assumed he fact checked his program) but have not received a reply. I did find one report that had around 1.5F warming for California. There was another one that had 4-5 degrees as a prediction for S.California, but Collins is not talking about a prediction.

tallbloke
September 22, 2012 8:59 am

David Ball says:
September 22, 2012 at 8:42 am
Would like to hear the former astronauts take on the PBS fiasco. Gentlemen?

Yes.

Sundance
September 22, 2012 9:13 am

Here is ‘2016 Obama’s America’ the full length movie for those interested. I watched when it was at 819 hits and by the time I finished the movie there were over 9,000 hits. It’s going viral.
[Readers could probably find it on YouTube, but we are not sure about copyright issues. Link removed. — mod.]

NetDr
September 22, 2012 9:13 am
philincalifornia
September 22, 2012 9:25 am

Postcards from San Francisco
Yesterday on the Marin Headlands, more from NASA:
http://imageshack.us/a/img838/4387/img2593ar.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img560/5938/img2603am.jpg

Stephen Rasey
September 22, 2012 9:28 am

Visual differences between today’s Cryosphere and DMI ice cover for the same day are striking. This points to a wide error bar as to what can be considered ice covered.
Note: Cryosphere on the WUWT Ice Page is 9/17/2012, while the source is showing 9/20/2012.
These are the links to the sources.
Cryosphere
http://home.comcast.net/~ewerme/wuwt/cryo_latest.jpg (9/20/2012)
and the
Danish Met Institute: Northern Hemisphere Sea Surface Temperature
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/satellite/index.uk.php (9/22/2012)
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/satellite/plots/satsst.arc.d-02.png (9/20/2012)
Even the DMI 8/27 shows more ice than cryosphere today;
http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/satellite/plots/satsst.arc.d-27.png
I saved the previous 30 days of DMI to my archive.

Pamela Gray
September 22, 2012 9:37 am

Also a “fellow” shooter but decidely female and I don’t know the female form of “fellow”. I was out last weekend doing the same thing. Put some .22’s and a few 35 remingtons down range at 50, 100, 200 and 300 yds. Didn’t do so well. Just put a new BSA Sweet scope on my .22 rifle. Comes with all the bells and whistles and I am still learning its capabilities. I have managed to get a .22 bullet to 300 and 500 yrds on target but am not as consistent as I would like to be.
Anyways, have tons of fun. Don’t forget to “glove” those ears.
Here is an interesting fact: For right handed rifle shooters, the left ear is the ear that receives the greater noise impact, not the ear next to the gun. I know why. Care to guess?

pat
September 22, 2012 9:41 am

If this link that shows a correlation between a lower Arctic ice extent and increased continental snowfall/colder winters hold up, it will mean that global warming has virtually nothing to do with current Arctic ices extents. That the ice extents were influenced by wind and sea currents. Something that has been claimed by Bastardi et al, and hypothesized my many on these very pages.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-blogs/climatechange/sea-ice-and-snowfall-connectio/62144
It may also mean that the Arctic albedo is far less important as a warming multiplier than surmised.

pat
September 22, 2012 9:42 am

Ms. Gray
“I don’t know the female form of “fellow”
Fella?

HaroldW
September 22, 2012 9:51 am

climatebeagle –
“Does anyone know of any reference for California now being 4-5 degrees hotter? ”
Check out this graph from NCDC (part of NOAA). I couldn’t find a temperature anomaly plot, but this one with a 12-month average should do as well. The computed linear trend is 0.73 degF/century, or about 0.4 degC/century.
The record begins in 1896, and the warmest year (1996, at 61.92F) is only 5.65 degreesF warmer than the coldest (1917, 56.27).

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