UPDATE: 1:50PM – The PBS News Hour Ombudsman has posted his essay, you can read it here.
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For the record, just now, I’ve called PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler to give him an opportunity to ask me questions before he publishes his article. I got voice mail, so we’ll see if he’s interested in hearing anything about my side before condemning me. I predict he will not return my call, but if he does I’ll report it here. UPDATE 11:50AM: Mr. Getler HAS returned my call and we had a pleasant conversation.
Via Tom Nelson:
PBS Ombud: NewsHour Climate Change Report Worth Criticizing | Blog | Media Matters for America
A PBS NewsHour global warming report that allowed a climate change contrarian to “counterbalance” mainstream scientific opinion is worth criticizing, according to PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler, who said he received hundreds of emails and calls about the program.
Getler said he is penning a column on the issue that is likely to be posted late today or Monday, and hinted it will be critical.
“There’s just a lot of…hundreds of emails about it,” Getler said when asked why he is writing about the issue. “Commentary about it all over and it’s interesting.”
Getler declined to offer specific views on the NewsHour report, which aired last Monday. But when asked if he has found elements to criticize, he said: “Oh yeah, of course there’s material to be critical about.”
When Media Matters first called this morning, Getler said he had been contacted by many viewers since Monday about the issue: “It’s what everyone’s calling about, the global warming thing.”
Former CNN science reporter Miles Obrien:
PBS NewsHour Science Reporter Miles O’Brien: Climate Denier Segment A ‘Horrible, Horrible Thing’ | ThinkProgress
The general public has spoken out as well, with over 15,000 [aren’t there a lot more than 15,000 people in the general public?] people signing a Forecast the Facts petition to PBS ombudsman Michael Getler demanding an investigation of how this violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast.
And here’s some thinly veiled hate:
Warmist Doug Craig: You know what Anthony Watts is like? A dark figure with no wood who tears your home down every night
Imagine you are building a house and at night while you are sleeping someone destroys all your work. Each day you return to build your home and each night, dark figures tear it down. Anthony Watts and others like him have nothing to build. They have no scientific “wood.” They create nothing while they destroy everything.
…Like the cancer victim who refuses treatment because they deny they are sick, Watts is that voice of denial that prevents us from decisive action on behalf of our children and their future. The lie lives. The saboteurs are free and in control of this false debate.
For the record, this is what they are upset about:
Here’s the story/transcript from Spencer Michels, along with video that follows. I have not seen the piece that will be airing nationally yet, and I don’t know how much of me they use, but this just appeared on the PBS website.
One note: when they talk about “heat sync” they really meant to say heat sink. – Anthony
Conversation with global warming skeptic Anthony Watts – Climate Change Skeptic Says Global Warming Crowd Oversells Its Message
From PBS:
It was about 105 degrees in Chico, Calif., about three hours north of Sacramento, when we arrived at the offices of one of the nation’s most read climate skeptics. Actually, Anthony Watts calls himself a pragmatic skeptic when it comes to global warming. Watts is a former television meteorologist, who has been studying climate change for years. He doesn’t claim to be a scientist; he attended Purdue. He’s the author of a blog, Watts Up with That?, which he calls the world’s most viewed site on global warming. For a story I was working on for the PBS NewsHour, Watts was recommended by the Heartland Institute, a conservative, Chicago-based non-profit that is one of the leading groups that doubt that climate change — if it exists — is attributable to human activities.
Watts doesn’t come across as a true believer or a fanatic. For one thing, he has built a business that caters to television stations and individuals who want accurate weather information and need displays to show their viewers. He has developed an array of high tech devices to disseminate weather data and put it on screens. He has several TV stations around the country as clients.
But Watts’ reputation doesn’t come from his business — IntelliWeather — but rather from his outspoken views on climate change. He says he’s been gathering data for years, and he’s analyzed it along with some academics. He used to think somewhat along the same lines as Richard Muller, the University of California physicist who recently declared he was no longer a skeptic on climate change. Muller had analyzed two centuries worth of temperature data and decided his former skepticism was misplaced: yes, the earth has been warming, and the reason is that humans are producing carbon dioxide that is hastening the warming the planet.
Watts doesn’t buy Muller’s analysis, since, he believes, it is based on faulty data. The big problem, as Watts sees it, is that the stations where temperatures are gathered are too close to urban developments where heat is soaked up and distorts the readings. So it looks like the earth is warming though it may not be, he says.
Read a transcript below.
SPENCER MICHELS: So let’s start out with the basic idea that there’s this debate in this country over global warming. There’s some people who call it a complete hoax and there are some people who completely embrace it and so forth. Where do you stand in that spectrum?
ANTHONY WATTS: Well, I at one time was very much embracing the whole concept that we had a real problem, we had to do something about it. Back in 1988 James Hanson actually was the impetus for that for me in his presentation before Congress. But as I learned more and more about the issue, I discovered that maybe it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be. Some of it is hype, but there’s also some data that has not been explored and there’s been some investigations that need to be done that haven’t been done. And so now I’m in the camp of we have some global warming. No doubt about it, but it may not be as bad as we originally thought because there are other contributing factors.
SPENCER MICHELS: What’s the thing that bothers you the most about people who say there’s lots of global warming?
ANTHONY WATTS: They want to change policy. They want to apply taxes and these kinds of things may not be the actual solution for making a change to our society.
SPENCER MICHELS: What are you saying? That they’re biased essentially or motivated by something else? What?
ANTHONY WATTS: [T]here’s a term that was used to describe this. It’s called noble cause corruption. And actually I was a victim of that at one time, where you’re so fervent you’re in your belief that you have to do something. You’re saving the planet, you’re making a difference, you’re making things better that you’re so focused on this goal of fixing it or changing it that you kind of forget to look along the path to make sure that you haven’t missed some things.
I started looking into the idea that weather stations have been slowly encroached upon by urbanization and sighting issues over the last century. Meaning that our urbanization affected the temperature. And this was something that was very clear if you looked at the temperature records. But what wasn’t clear is how it affected the trend of temperatures. And so that’s been something that I’ve been investigating. Anyone who’s ever stood next to a building in the summertime at night, a brick building that’s been out in the summer sun, you stand next to it at night you can feel the heat radiating off of it. That’s a heat sync effect. And over the last 100 years our country, in fact the world, has changed. We’ve gone from having mostly a rural agrarian society to one that is more urban and city based and as a result the infrastructure has increased. We’ve got more freeways, you know more airports, we’ve got more buildings. Got more streets, all these things. Those are all heat syncs. During the day, solar insulation hits these objects and these surfaces and it stores heat in these objects. At night it releases that heat. Now if you are measuring temperature in a city that went from having uh maybe 10% of um, non-permeable surface to you know maybe 90% over 100 years, that’s a heat sync effect and that should show up in the record. The problem is, is that it’s been such a slow subtle change over the last 100 years. It’s not easy to detect and that’s been the challenge and that’s what I’ve been working on.
SPENCER MICHELS: Well in a way you’re saying that the records aren’t accurate, the data isn’t accurate.
ANTHONY WATTS: I’m saying that the data might be biased by these influences to a percentage. Yes, we have some global warming, it’s clear the temperature has gone up in the last 100 years. But what percentage of that is from carbon dioxide? And what percentage of that is from changes in the local and measurement environment?
SPENCER MICHELS: I want to go back to what we were talking about a little bit earlier, the idea that there is, there are people who are sort of invested in promoting the fact that there is global warming. There’s money involved and grants. Is that what you were saying? Maybe explain that.
ANTHONY WATTS: Well global warming had become essentially a business in its own right. There are NGOs, there are organizations, there are whole divisions of universities that have set up to study this, this factor, and so there’s lots of money involved and then so I think that there’s a tendency to want to keep that going and not really look at what might be different.
SPENCER MICHELS: Now Dr. Muller at the University of California Berkeley had similar concerns. Went back and looked at the data, took much more data than anybody else had, and concluded, well maybe there was some problems, but basically the conclusions were right. There is global warming and it comes from carbon dioxide which is meant, made by man. Do you buy that?
ANTHONY WATTS: Unfortunately he has not succeeded in terms of how science views, you know, a successful inquiry. His papers have not passed peer review. They had some problems. Some of the problems I identified, others have identified problems as well, for example, he goes much further back, back to about 1750 in terms of temperature. Well from my own studies, I know that temperature really wasn’t validated and homogenized where everything’s measured the same way until the weather bureau came into being about in 1890. Prior to that thermometers were hung in and exposed to the atmosphere all kinds of different ways. Some were hung under the shade of trees, some were on the north side of houses, some were out in the open in the sun, and so the temperature fluctuations that we got from those readings prior to 1890 was quite broad and I don’t believe that provided representative signal because the exposure’s all wrong. And Dr. Muller did not take any of that into account.
SPENCER MICHELS: His conclusion though is that basically global warming exists and that the scientists, no matter what the problems were, were pretty much right on.
ANTHONY WATTS: I agree with him that global warming exists. However, the ability to attribute the percentage of global warming to CO2 versus other man-made influences is still an open question.
SPENCER MICHELS: I want to ask you a little bit about attitudes towards this among the public. We talked to a public opinion specialist at Stanford who says there’s been 80 percent belief in global warming and man-made global warming consistently over at least the last 15 years in this country. Do you buy his theory?
ANTHONY WATTS: Well I look at a number of opinion polls. You’ll find a lot of them on my blog and that we’ve covered. And depending on how you ask the question we’ll sometimes give you a different answer. My view is, is that the view of global warming peaked about at the time that Al Gore came out with his movie, An Inconvenient Truth. But ever since then other factors have kicked in. Climate Gate for example. And it has become less of an issue, in fact you hardly see politicians talking about it anymore, or pushing it as an issue. What’s been happening now it’s just become a regulation issue. It’s gotten away from the political arena and into the bureaucratic regulation arena. And so people I believe based on the polls I’ve seen, aren’t quite as believing as they used to be. And I think the trend is downward.
SPENCER MICHELS: What do you think is the upshot of your attitude toward this? Should the Congress, should the American public say, you know nothing’s been proven yet. We should wait. Or should we go ahead with trying to solve what many people consider a really scary problem?
ANTHONY WATTS: Hmm…You mentioned a really scary problem and I think that’s part of the issues. Some people don’t respond well to scare tactics and there have been some scare tactics used by some of the proponents on the other side of the issue. And that’s where the overselling of it comes in. But this is a slow problem and it requires a slow solution I believe. For example, our infrastructure for electricity and so forth and highways didn’t happen in 5 years or 10 years. It happened over a century. We can’t just rip all that up or change it in the space off five, 10 or 15 years because it’ll be catastrophic to our economy. We need a slow change solution, one that is a solution that changes over time at about the same rate as climate change. More efficient technologies, new technologies, the use of more nuclear for example. There’s a nuclear type of a reactor that’s more safe called a, a liquid thorium reactor that China is jumping on right now. And we should be looking into things like that.
SPENCER MICHELS: Has this issue, I know you think it’s been oversold and scare tactics have been used. Do you think it’s become too politicized?
ANTHONY WATTS: Oh, it’s definitely become too politicized. In fact, some of the scientists who are the leaders in the issue have become for lack of a better word, political tools on the issue.
SPENCER MICHELS: One final question, do you consider yourself a skeptic when it comes to global warming?
ANTHONY WATTS: I would call myself a pragmatic skeptic. Yes, we need to make some changes on our energy technology but more efficient technology’s a good thing. For example, I have solar power on my own, you know, I have done energy reductions in my office and in my home to make things more efficient. So I think those are good things. Those are good messages that we should be embracing. But at the same time I think that some of the issues have been oversold, may have been oversold, because they allow for more regulation to take place. And so the people that like more regulation use global warming as a tool, as a means to an end. And so as a result, we might be getting more regulation and more taxes that really aren’t rooted in science, but more in politics.
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This article appears online here
Well done Anthony, Despite the vitriol you are receiving from the AGW bletheren, you have succeeded in bringing to the fore, the fact that so-called climate science has MANY issues, and is far, far from settled.
Hopefully many more people will OPEN THEIR MINDS and realise the truth, that CO2 is ONLY a beneficial trace gas and not the boogey-man that the alarmists would have us think.
The question I have is how to kill the fraud portrayed in the “97% of climate scientists agree”.
This lie should have been well and truly put to bed by now.
As I have said before, there are a lot of sick puppies on the CAGW side. I have also said that we are now in Gandi’s 3rd stage: “…and then they fight you”.
History will show that Anthony is one of the good guys.
I just posted this at the base of the Ombudsman’s report.
“As the scientific evidence piles up against CAGW, and the machinations and corrupt behaviour of its lead proponents become widely known, the ‘believers’ are understandably shocked and dismayed.
Remember when the Catholic paedophilia scandal emerged? For many years the Faithful howled down any and all complainants. Of course we all know how that turned out in the end!”
tallbloke says:
September 21, 2012 at 2:58 pm
In fact, discuss it here, so we don’t derail this thread. (sorry Anthony)
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/a-simple-logical-argument-about-global-warming/
Mods: add this URL to my previous please
one only has to see how Galen’s view of anatomy was initially challenged to see how supposed “scientists” behave scientifically when challenged about their science…. its not just climate, 100s of years ago it was anatomy…. its all been done before….
From the Ombudsman’s response:
“It was not the PBS NewsHour’s finest 10 minutes.”
“Watts did not seem to get more time than some of the other major figures but he seemed to dominate the program.” – WTF??
This just makes me sick, sick, sick.
As someone said in another comment – “they’re worse than we thought!”
I asked this in another thread, but didn’t see a reply. Is there any reference for California now being 4-5 degrees hotter? I’ve e-mailed Dr Collins and Spencer Michels (assumed he fact checked his program) but have not received a reply. I did find one report that had around 1.5F warming for California. There was another one that had 4-5 degrees as a prediction for S.California, but Collins is not talking about a prediction.
“WILLIAM COLLINS, Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory: This timeline is showing how the temperature all over the globe has changed since the beginning of the 20th century. Look at how warm California has gotten, four or five degrees hotter than our historical climate.”
Does anyone know of any reference for the claim of “four or five degrees hotter” for California? I’ve never heard of it before.
The ombudsman cannot argue with a legion of crimatologists who are paid by governments to say that AGW is real.
Peter Plail says:
September 21, 2012 at 2:56 pm
I am not familiar with PBS, being a Brit. Could someone in the US explain if the “general public” actually tune in and listen?
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I don’t know how many people watch it but it basically started before cable TV. At that time in the US there were on 3 networks, ABC, NBC and CBS. They got their money from commercials. Some claimed that their news coverage and programming was influenced by money. They demanded more “balance”. So PBS was formed at the taxpayers’ expense. They also get viewer donations and corporate sponsors. They did (and still do) have programming you won’t find on the “The Big Three” networks. (The original “Doctor Who” and “Are You Being Served?” could only be found on a PBS station.)
Now, with cable and the internet, there is no excuse for the taxpayer to keep funding them.
PS “PBS” stands for “Public Broadcasting System”.
That is some “ombudsman” they got there. Same old logical fallacies to boot.
katabasis1 says:
September 21, 2012 at 3:19 pm
From the Ombudsman’s response:
“It was not the PBS NewsHour’s finest 10 minutes.”
“Watts did not seem to get more time than some of the other major figures but he seemed to dominate the program.”
Strong words, softly spoken.
Jimbo says:
September 21, 2012 at 11:27 am
…It seems that those screaming loudest haven’t even seen or heard the PBS thing. Or even read the transcript…
I haven’t seen it, I haven’t heard it, and I sure as %#$$ not going to turn on PBS. If I want to listen to high minded idiots babble, all I have to do is find the nearest mental facility. They have hundreds of more people with semi-intelligible dialog than the buffoons at PBS.
I’m not holding my breath that anyone other than skeptics are going to understand what the problems with the science are until, say, 2050 (lol). They cannot bring themselves to even look at what we are saying. The “ombudsman” clearly did not even attempt to try to understand. He did not even look.
Peter Plail says:
September 21, 2012 at 2:56 pm
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I’m British too, and was also wondering what the viewing figures for PBS are. My understanding (supported by various sarcastic comments about it over the years on American TV programmes I have seen), is that it is not that well regarded outside its fairly limited viewership. Please correct me if I am wrong.
If my understanding IS correct, surely the sensible thing for those who are making such a fuss would have been to ignore the whole thing? By reacting with such vitriol they are only bringing attention and huge publicity to Anthony and the sceptic/realist side. They just can’t seem to see their reaction is an enormous own goal. The old saying that there is no such thing as bad publicity is particularly relevant here. Although this must be personally distressing for Anthony, the gain for our side through this egregiously overwrought response will only turn out to be a good thing. Let’s see how this all pans out in a few weeks. It should be very interesting.
A question I always ask of anyone who is upset by hateful jibes is ‘Do you value this person’s opinion?’ The answer, after a little thought, is almost always ‘No………’
And Anthony, you must know by now how well regarded and admired you are by the people who matter.
Anthony: Just remember when you’re getting flack, you’re over the target.
Quote: As ombudsman, Michael Getler serves as an independent internal critic within PBS.
It was not the PBS NewsHour’s finest 10 minutes. In my view, and that of hundreds, even thousands of others, the program stumbled badly.
I think of myself as open-minded and believe strongly in hearing opposing views. But I do believe in the assessment by the vast majority of climate scientists and U.S. and international scientific organizations that the threat to our planet and future generations from global warming and the human contribution to it is real and needs to be addressed.
End quote.
I always though Ombudsmen were truely independent. As in, not part of the corporation they are assessing. Mr Getler is clearly biased and he says so in his report. It’s a shame he can’t even see it, let alone assess it.
I am correcting my post. We are not going away. We are getting stronger. Without “oil money”, without sucking from the academic grant trough, without the MSM behind us, and yet there are more skeptics now than I would ever have believed possible 10 years ago. I’m NOT going away. Refute our evidence if you can.
Suck on that CAGW!!
Posted to the ombudsman’s feedback:
Perhaps to correct the oversight PBS should air another climate change special with John Christy (Al State Climatologist), Roy Spencer (Climatologist), Richard Lindzen (Atmospheric Physicist), Anthony Watts (Science Blogger), Joanne Nova (Science Blogger), Steve McIntyre (Statistician), and R. G. Brown (Duke University Physicist) debating with James Hansen (NASA Scientist), M. Mann (Penn State Prof. & Science Blogger), G. Schmidt (NASA Scientist & Science Blogger), Joe Romm (Science Blogger), S. Lewandowsky (Psychologist), R. Muller (Physicist), and John Cook(Science Blogger).
Just for fun you could throw in Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. and Jr. since they’re not entirely in agreement on the subject.
If replacements for some of the skeptics above are needed I’d suggest any of the scientists Pat Michaels, Bob Tisdale, or Tim Ball or perhaps even commentator Christopher Monckton.
He basically opened the can of worms saying Anthony wasn’t qualified to have an expert opinion and that that was the “real” problem; as if we skeptics don’t have any qualified scientists. I say we push publically for a debate on PBS; either we get a debate or the public will see who’s afraid to debate! They’ve opened this door with this ombudsman comment, let’s take advantage.
Thanks Anthony – Remember that all ombudsmans know who sign their paychecks.
On your side, Anthony !
Curiously enough, I recently read a book by the man who was the ‘Voice of the Weather’ on the French radio station, Europe 1. Although the book was labelled ‘provocant’, I’m willing to bet that Laurent Cabrol did not have to endure the vilification that you’re currently suffering … the French are far more relaxed about such things!
Cabrol’s message is not too far from what you said in your PBS interview … this is from the introduction to “Climat. Et si la terre s’en sortait toute seule?”, followed by a rough translation:
Le débat est ouvert Oui la terre se réchauffe, je ne le conteste pas. Je réfute simplement que l’on accuse l’homme de tous les maux sans prendre en compte la variabilité naturelle du climat et l’approximation des recherches actuelles. Les chercheurs font un travail remarquable, mais la mécanique climatique est d’une complexité rare… c’est ce que je démontre dans mon livre. Il est malhonnête de culpabiliser les habitants de notre pays. Cessons de nous asséner des leçons de moral et souvenons-nous des leçons du passé car la terre s’est réchauffée dans des proportions bien plus brutales au début de l’an 1000.
Climate. And if the Earth pulls through by itself?
The debate is open. Yes the earth is heating up, I don’t dispute this. What I refute is the idea that humankind is responsible for all the harm without taking into account the natural variability of the climate and the rough estimates of present research. The researchers are doing remarkable work, but the climate mechanism is unusually complex … this is what I show in my book. It is dishonest to blame the inhabitants of our country. Stop assailing us with moral lessons and let us remember the lessons of the past, because the earth heated up much more severely at the start of the 11th century
2008: WUWT: “Sustainability” runs amok in my town of Chico
papertiger commented: The only answer is for good people to stand for election. Anthony Watts for Mayor of Chico…
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/11/01/sustainability-runs-amok-in-my-hometown-of-chico/
so Doug Craig was on the case already:
Feb 2007: ClimateTruth Blog: Mayor and City Council Redding, California
On Tuesday, February 6, 2007 I will stand before the Redding City Council in Shasta County in Northern California and ask the Mayor and the Council to sign the Mayors Climate Protection Agreement for the second time…
Hello, my name is Doug Craig. It has been almost exactly ten months since my last appearance on this stand when I requested that the council authorize the signing of the Mayors Climate Protection Agreement…
***Since I stood before you 10 months ago, 169 more mayors have signed the agreement including the mayor of Chico…
In the year since you last considered this issue, each of us has produced the equivalence of a large elephant—6 tons—of carbon dioxide emissions and placed it in our atmosphere where it will outlive us all. For every gallon of gasoline we burn we add another 25 pounds of CO2 to our air where it will trap heat for at least a century.
Scientists tell us that there is more CO2 in our atmosphere right now than has been there for 650,000 years, that eleven of the last twelve years rank among the twelve hottest years on record and that hot extremes, heat waves, and heavy precipitation events will continue to become more frequent…
http://www.climatetruth.org/blog_1/?p=4
What we are experiencing is really a rather typical reaction by any sort of “fundamentalist” when one of the foundations of their belief is shown to be potentially flawed. They must immediately silence the source of the information then work diligently to explain it away. Same thing happens in any such community when you point to a flaw in the logic.
I find it interesting that Getler linked to many blogs in that article… with Anthony’s being the notable exception. Conscious decision or subconscious bias? I’ll give Getler the benefit of the doubt for the moment.
Theodore White says:
September 21, 2012 at 1:05 pm
I didn’t have a good chance to say this before, and this isn’t the best forum, but Anthony did a great job with what he said. In my experience with in testifying at New Hampshire legislative hearings, it’s too easy to go into too much detail. Instead of touching (scoring) on five points, you might get only two in, and then go into detail that people will not remember.
This is one of the places where being “just” a TV meteorologist is a huge benefit, the years of doing that gave Anthony the sense what the keys points are, and he got them across. So what if attackers will point to the concrete walls next to the temperature gauges, had Anthony addressed some of that, he would have lost out making another point. Besides, that criticism is really amusing – it will take more than bluster to blow away the images Anthony provided.
Great job.