UPDATE: 1:50PM – The PBS News Hour Ombudsman has posted his essay, you can read it here.
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For the record, just now, I’ve called PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler to give him an opportunity to ask me questions before he publishes his article. I got voice mail, so we’ll see if he’s interested in hearing anything about my side before condemning me. I predict he will not return my call, but if he does I’ll report it here. UPDATE 11:50AM: Mr. Getler HAS returned my call and we had a pleasant conversation.
Via Tom Nelson:
PBS Ombud: NewsHour Climate Change Report Worth Criticizing | Blog | Media Matters for America
A PBS NewsHour global warming report that allowed a climate change contrarian to “counterbalance” mainstream scientific opinion is worth criticizing, according to PBS Ombudsman Michael Getler, who said he received hundreds of emails and calls about the program.
Getler said he is penning a column on the issue that is likely to be posted late today or Monday, and hinted it will be critical.
“There’s just a lot of…hundreds of emails about it,” Getler said when asked why he is writing about the issue. “Commentary about it all over and it’s interesting.”
Getler declined to offer specific views on the NewsHour report, which aired last Monday. But when asked if he has found elements to criticize, he said: “Oh yeah, of course there’s material to be critical about.”
When Media Matters first called this morning, Getler said he had been contacted by many viewers since Monday about the issue: “It’s what everyone’s calling about, the global warming thing.”
Former CNN science reporter Miles Obrien:
PBS NewsHour Science Reporter Miles O’Brien: Climate Denier Segment A ‘Horrible, Horrible Thing’ | ThinkProgress
The general public has spoken out as well, with over 15,000 [aren’t there a lot more than 15,000 people in the general public?] people signing a Forecast the Facts petition to PBS ombudsman Michael Getler demanding an investigation of how this violation of PBS journalistic standards made it to broadcast.
And here’s some thinly veiled hate:
Warmist Doug Craig: You know what Anthony Watts is like? A dark figure with no wood who tears your home down every night
Imagine you are building a house and at night while you are sleeping someone destroys all your work. Each day you return to build your home and each night, dark figures tear it down. Anthony Watts and others like him have nothing to build. They have no scientific “wood.” They create nothing while they destroy everything.
…Like the cancer victim who refuses treatment because they deny they are sick, Watts is that voice of denial that prevents us from decisive action on behalf of our children and their future. The lie lives. The saboteurs are free and in control of this false debate.
For the record, this is what they are upset about:
Here’s the story/transcript from Spencer Michels, along with video that follows. I have not seen the piece that will be airing nationally yet, and I don’t know how much of me they use, but this just appeared on the PBS website.
One note: when they talk about “heat sync” they really meant to say heat sink. – Anthony
Conversation with global warming skeptic Anthony Watts – Climate Change Skeptic Says Global Warming Crowd Oversells Its Message
From PBS:
It was about 105 degrees in Chico, Calif., about three hours north of Sacramento, when we arrived at the offices of one of the nation’s most read climate skeptics. Actually, Anthony Watts calls himself a pragmatic skeptic when it comes to global warming. Watts is a former television meteorologist, who has been studying climate change for years. He doesn’t claim to be a scientist; he attended Purdue. He’s the author of a blog, Watts Up with That?, which he calls the world’s most viewed site on global warming. For a story I was working on for the PBS NewsHour, Watts was recommended by the Heartland Institute, a conservative, Chicago-based non-profit that is one of the leading groups that doubt that climate change — if it exists — is attributable to human activities.
Watts doesn’t come across as a true believer or a fanatic. For one thing, he has built a business that caters to television stations and individuals who want accurate weather information and need displays to show their viewers. He has developed an array of high tech devices to disseminate weather data and put it on screens. He has several TV stations around the country as clients.
But Watts’ reputation doesn’t come from his business — IntelliWeather — but rather from his outspoken views on climate change. He says he’s been gathering data for years, and he’s analyzed it along with some academics. He used to think somewhat along the same lines as Richard Muller, the University of California physicist who recently declared he was no longer a skeptic on climate change. Muller had analyzed two centuries worth of temperature data and decided his former skepticism was misplaced: yes, the earth has been warming, and the reason is that humans are producing carbon dioxide that is hastening the warming the planet.
Watts doesn’t buy Muller’s analysis, since, he believes, it is based on faulty data. The big problem, as Watts sees it, is that the stations where temperatures are gathered are too close to urban developments where heat is soaked up and distorts the readings. So it looks like the earth is warming though it may not be, he says.
Read a transcript below.
SPENCER MICHELS: So let’s start out with the basic idea that there’s this debate in this country over global warming. There’s some people who call it a complete hoax and there are some people who completely embrace it and so forth. Where do you stand in that spectrum?
ANTHONY WATTS: Well, I at one time was very much embracing the whole concept that we had a real problem, we had to do something about it. Back in 1988 James Hanson actually was the impetus for that for me in his presentation before Congress. But as I learned more and more about the issue, I discovered that maybe it’s not as bad as it’s made out to be. Some of it is hype, but there’s also some data that has not been explored and there’s been some investigations that need to be done that haven’t been done. And so now I’m in the camp of we have some global warming. No doubt about it, but it may not be as bad as we originally thought because there are other contributing factors.
SPENCER MICHELS: What’s the thing that bothers you the most about people who say there’s lots of global warming?
ANTHONY WATTS: They want to change policy. They want to apply taxes and these kinds of things may not be the actual solution for making a change to our society.
SPENCER MICHELS: What are you saying? That they’re biased essentially or motivated by something else? What?
ANTHONY WATTS: [T]here’s a term that was used to describe this. It’s called noble cause corruption. And actually I was a victim of that at one time, where you’re so fervent you’re in your belief that you have to do something. You’re saving the planet, you’re making a difference, you’re making things better that you’re so focused on this goal of fixing it or changing it that you kind of forget to look along the path to make sure that you haven’t missed some things.
I started looking into the idea that weather stations have been slowly encroached upon by urbanization and sighting issues over the last century. Meaning that our urbanization affected the temperature. And this was something that was very clear if you looked at the temperature records. But what wasn’t clear is how it affected the trend of temperatures. And so that’s been something that I’ve been investigating. Anyone who’s ever stood next to a building in the summertime at night, a brick building that’s been out in the summer sun, you stand next to it at night you can feel the heat radiating off of it. That’s a heat sync effect. And over the last 100 years our country, in fact the world, has changed. We’ve gone from having mostly a rural agrarian society to one that is more urban and city based and as a result the infrastructure has increased. We’ve got more freeways, you know more airports, we’ve got more buildings. Got more streets, all these things. Those are all heat syncs. During the day, solar insulation hits these objects and these surfaces and it stores heat in these objects. At night it releases that heat. Now if you are measuring temperature in a city that went from having uh maybe 10% of um, non-permeable surface to you know maybe 90% over 100 years, that’s a heat sync effect and that should show up in the record. The problem is, is that it’s been such a slow subtle change over the last 100 years. It’s not easy to detect and that’s been the challenge and that’s what I’ve been working on.
SPENCER MICHELS: Well in a way you’re saying that the records aren’t accurate, the data isn’t accurate.
ANTHONY WATTS: I’m saying that the data might be biased by these influences to a percentage. Yes, we have some global warming, it’s clear the temperature has gone up in the last 100 years. But what percentage of that is from carbon dioxide? And what percentage of that is from changes in the local and measurement environment?
SPENCER MICHELS: I want to go back to what we were talking about a little bit earlier, the idea that there is, there are people who are sort of invested in promoting the fact that there is global warming. There’s money involved and grants. Is that what you were saying? Maybe explain that.
ANTHONY WATTS: Well global warming had become essentially a business in its own right. There are NGOs, there are organizations, there are whole divisions of universities that have set up to study this, this factor, and so there’s lots of money involved and then so I think that there’s a tendency to want to keep that going and not really look at what might be different.
SPENCER MICHELS: Now Dr. Muller at the University of California Berkeley had similar concerns. Went back and looked at the data, took much more data than anybody else had, and concluded, well maybe there was some problems, but basically the conclusions were right. There is global warming and it comes from carbon dioxide which is meant, made by man. Do you buy that?
ANTHONY WATTS: Unfortunately he has not succeeded in terms of how science views, you know, a successful inquiry. His papers have not passed peer review. They had some problems. Some of the problems I identified, others have identified problems as well, for example, he goes much further back, back to about 1750 in terms of temperature. Well from my own studies, I know that temperature really wasn’t validated and homogenized where everything’s measured the same way until the weather bureau came into being about in 1890. Prior to that thermometers were hung in and exposed to the atmosphere all kinds of different ways. Some were hung under the shade of trees, some were on the north side of houses, some were out in the open in the sun, and so the temperature fluctuations that we got from those readings prior to 1890 was quite broad and I don’t believe that provided representative signal because the exposure’s all wrong. And Dr. Muller did not take any of that into account.
SPENCER MICHELS: His conclusion though is that basically global warming exists and that the scientists, no matter what the problems were, were pretty much right on.
ANTHONY WATTS: I agree with him that global warming exists. However, the ability to attribute the percentage of global warming to CO2 versus other man-made influences is still an open question.
SPENCER MICHELS: I want to ask you a little bit about attitudes towards this among the public. We talked to a public opinion specialist at Stanford who says there’s been 80 percent belief in global warming and man-made global warming consistently over at least the last 15 years in this country. Do you buy his theory?
ANTHONY WATTS: Well I look at a number of opinion polls. You’ll find a lot of them on my blog and that we’ve covered. And depending on how you ask the question we’ll sometimes give you a different answer. My view is, is that the view of global warming peaked about at the time that Al Gore came out with his movie, An Inconvenient Truth. But ever since then other factors have kicked in. Climate Gate for example. And it has become less of an issue, in fact you hardly see politicians talking about it anymore, or pushing it as an issue. What’s been happening now it’s just become a regulation issue. It’s gotten away from the political arena and into the bureaucratic regulation arena. And so people I believe based on the polls I’ve seen, aren’t quite as believing as they used to be. And I think the trend is downward.
SPENCER MICHELS: What do you think is the upshot of your attitude toward this? Should the Congress, should the American public say, you know nothing’s been proven yet. We should wait. Or should we go ahead with trying to solve what many people consider a really scary problem?
ANTHONY WATTS: Hmm…You mentioned a really scary problem and I think that’s part of the issues. Some people don’t respond well to scare tactics and there have been some scare tactics used by some of the proponents on the other side of the issue. And that’s where the overselling of it comes in. But this is a slow problem and it requires a slow solution I believe. For example, our infrastructure for electricity and so forth and highways didn’t happen in 5 years or 10 years. It happened over a century. We can’t just rip all that up or change it in the space off five, 10 or 15 years because it’ll be catastrophic to our economy. We need a slow change solution, one that is a solution that changes over time at about the same rate as climate change. More efficient technologies, new technologies, the use of more nuclear for example. There’s a nuclear type of a reactor that’s more safe called a, a liquid thorium reactor that China is jumping on right now. And we should be looking into things like that.
SPENCER MICHELS: Has this issue, I know you think it’s been oversold and scare tactics have been used. Do you think it’s become too politicized?
ANTHONY WATTS: Oh, it’s definitely become too politicized. In fact, some of the scientists who are the leaders in the issue have become for lack of a better word, political tools on the issue.
SPENCER MICHELS: One final question, do you consider yourself a skeptic when it comes to global warming?
ANTHONY WATTS: I would call myself a pragmatic skeptic. Yes, we need to make some changes on our energy technology but more efficient technology’s a good thing. For example, I have solar power on my own, you know, I have done energy reductions in my office and in my home to make things more efficient. So I think those are good things. Those are good messages that we should be embracing. But at the same time I think that some of the issues have been oversold, may have been oversold, because they allow for more regulation to take place. And so the people that like more regulation use global warming as a tool, as a means to an end. And so as a result, we might be getting more regulation and more taxes that really aren’t rooted in science, but more in politics.
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This article appears online here
I also particularly enjoyed the ombudsman’s response (allow me to paraphrase): “I’m ignorant, I haven’t researched any of the facts–I simply listen to the media. On that basis alone, I think we screwed up by having Watts on.”
PBS should be commended for daring to air the skeptic position, not pilloried.
Great work Anthony ! Keep shaking up the nut cases, scammers and the ignorant..
I guess it can be quite a shock to the viewership, when an opinion contrary to the stories they have been fed is aired.
Dear Anthony,
A well balanced interview that you gave, with good answers. Also kudos to Mr Michels for raising the proper questions. I cannot see what has been the cause for outrageous reactions. It was a clear, concise and factually correct interview, with also the politically correct remarks from you on climate change, energy efficiency.
Keep on the good work! Up to position 1!
They have heard of him now. Now, what if they had invited Lindzen or Spencer, would that have made it OK for the Ombudsman? Of course not, they would still howl and scream. It’s all about shutting down the debate that allegedly never was. I hope the Ombudsman comes over and reads the comments here. He and his ilk have no idea how they have been fooled by the great catastrophic global warming swindle.
Co2 is a greenhouse gas.
The world has warmed.
Man’s co2 has had a part in that warming.
How much is mainly what divides most sceptics and warmists though there are other issues.
Keep pointing out to these media types what the vitriol actually means. “Do you think the world is going to be saved by people who demand that voices be silenced?”
Typo:
How much is mainly what divides most sceptics and warmists though there are other issues.
Now, the ombudsman, and with him, 10 of thousands potential new readers for Anthony’s blog will be reading about the facts of climate science and the data corruption that has been going on for years. At least some of them will start asking questions when they see their next electricity bill. W*F am I having to pay more for less electricity? I installed all those lousy CFL’s, I am sitting in the dark when I switch them on, and they last only half as long as my old tungsten wired bulb? And the the EPA comes with this ridiculous mercury mandate? I have now 10 times more (highly toxic) mercury in my home due to those silly CFL’s, which are mandatory after the complete ban of tungsten bulbs in my country, part of the EU.
Thanks, greenies
Well said, Tallbloke. Anthony, they hate the science. They can’t abide that the concentration of CO2 is rising but the average global temperature is not; they cannot stand the fact that the left wing conspiracy has been well and truly outed; most of all, they are filled with rage that you calmly, responsibly, discuss the science and remain a gentleman throughout. That is the hardest thing of all for them to deal with. And it is why, in the end, you and the truth will prevail.
I’m still struggling with the warmist assertion that ‘there is overwhelming evidence man-made CO2 is causing the warming’…. As far as this layman (albeit a Computer Geek with 33 years in a technology field) can tell there is actually Zero EVIDENCE that man-made CO2 is the cause of our current warming. Is there a high likelihood it is partially responsible, absolutely, but there is no proof that I can find…. Very discouraging.
I recently posted the following to the PBS Ombudsman:
It was particularly enlightening to read such a volume of unreasoned venom as is on display in the PBS comments. One can only suppose that the majority of the cadre of viewers has been well indoctrinated in the rites of climate change/global warming.
I do hope PBS will follow up and do an interview of Dr. Brown.
Did anyone know that ‘ombudsman’ is a Swedish word? We have ‘ombudsman/-män'(plurasis) all over here, doing (?) ombud (?) in more than less every corner of society… ‘Ombudsman’ = prime coating for further painting = shiver & reject, strongly!
Brgds from Sweden
//TJ
“UPDATE: 1:50PM – The PBS News Hour Ombudsman has posted his essay, you can read it here.”
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Wow, just wow.
Are they giving us the news, or just the news that they think (by viewer feedback) we want to hear.
It seems they haven’t figured that out, yet.
“Redding.com Blogs: Doug Craig’s blog
Imagine you are building a house and at night while you are sleeping someone destroys all your work. Each day you return to build your home and each night, dark figures tear it down.”
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Perhaps if the foundation of the house wasn’t sand it wouldn’t be so easy to tear down?
I have left the following feedback for the PBS ombudsman (I hope they let it appear)
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Watts Up With That recently had an article about how the ‘97% of scientist say’ quotation, is misused by politicians and environmentalists. This figure was from a survey completed for a students MSC thesis (cited by the Doran Paper) entitled The Consenus on the Consensus.
This paper, where the 97% figure is quoted from by Doran, includes a great deal of feedback from the scientist that participated, much of it very sceptical.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/07/18/what-else-did-the-97-of-scientists-say/
Additionally Richard Muller was never a ‘climate sceptic’ this is according to Prof Muller in a recent interview with the CarbonBrief website appear to be more of a media construct:
Transcript:
http://www.carbonbrief.org/blog/2012/08/carbon-brief-interviews-richard-muller-transcript
Interviewer:
“But I also just don’t hear you protesting very much against the media storyline that seems to have emerged that you were somehow a ‘sceptic’ beforehand, a sceptic in the way that…”
Prof Muller:
“Come on, you know you can’t really counter the media. That would be a full-time job if I were to simply try to respond to everything, you know, write letters to the editor… I just hope that some people like you will read my books and read my papers, and read what I say – and not what people say I say…. “
Perhaps to correct their oversight PBS should air another climate change special with Christy, Spencer, Lindzen, Watts, McIntyre, and RGB (if he’d be so inclined) debating with Hansen, Mann, Schmidt, Romm, Lewandowsky, and Cook.
I am not familiar with PBS, being a Brit. Could someone in the US explain if the “general public” actually tune in and listen? I have looked at the demographics of PBS and it broadly matches the US population in general in terms of income, education and ethnicity, but nowhere can I find anything of a political or lifestyle nature.
I note that 67M people watch PBS in a typical week which puts 15k into context.
Much of the contrary comment appears to be completely irrational. I doubt if these people actually listened, and I suspect many are responding to the promptings of warmist blogs to petition PBS. They appear to be objecting to the fact that Anthony appeared, not to what he actually said.
The trouble with playing the man rather than playing the ball is that they could easily find the ball in the net behind them – game over.
On a more positive note, it is conceivable that a large proportion of the viewers did actually listen to the reassuring and rational statements that Anthony made, and will be completely oblivious to the storm raging in the blogsphere.
So PBS will frame future sories depending on ‘feedback!’ Hell! What happened to telling the truth and honest journalism?
Jimbo says:
September 21, 2012 at 2:18 pm
Co2 is a greenhouse gas.
The world has warmed.
Man’s co2 has had a part in that warming.
The ocean heat content rose
The surface air temperature rose (UHI caveat on amount)
The troposphere temp rose
and
Outgoing longwave radiation increased
http://tallbloke.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/olr3.png
CO2 and water vapour can’t create energy.
Therefore extra energy entered the system via diminished cloud cover.
Therefore any extra heat from additional ‘greenhouse gases’ ‘trapping’ energy’ can only be a secondary factor, otherwise Outgoing longwave radiation would have decreased.
Therefore the majority of the warming has been caused by other, natural factors.
QED
Discuss.
http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/a-simple-logical-argument-about-global-warming
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Watts doesn’t come across as a true believer or a fanatic.
Now you see what you are doing wrong here Anthony?
FFS forge some imaginary ‘enemy’ documents, publish a ridiculous Internet survey as ‘science’ in a ‘science’ journal or threaten to charge everyone who thinks you’re a complete w****r with ‘crimes against humanity’.
‘Tis easy and the scope is endless…
Tom B.,
Correctomundo. Where is the scientific evidence demonstrating that CO2 causes global warming?
I suspect CO2 does have a slight effect. But without empirical evidence it is a SWAG. There are credible scientists who think that CO2 causes no warming at all, and they know more about the subject than I do. Others put the effect at well under 0.5ºC per 2xCO2. And any such warming would occur at night, and in the winter, and in the higher latitudes. And any warming raises the low temperatures, not the high temperatures. What’s not to like?
Prof Richard Lindzen estimates some small CO2-caused warming, based on satellite observations. But I am not so certain that constitutes sufficient evidence. There is a wide array of estimates about the climate sensitivity number, from zero [or even negative; CO2 causes cooling], to above 6ºC. If there was definitive scientific evidence showing the response to a doubling of CO2, then the question of the sensitivity number would be answered. But there is wide dispute — and the planet itself seems to be telling us that the rise in CO2 is completely harmless.
I hope no PBS viewers read the above. I don’t want to be responsible for exploding heads. ヅ
Bebelplatz? If you don’t like the message use authority to burn the words.
Will we ever learn?
There are lots of folks who draw some sort of comfort in the belief that science is settled.
I’ve had the same issues with an acquaintance who claims that aerodynamics is fully understood. When i ask who is this person who fully understands aerodynamics, I get a blank stare. I’m pretty sure that this acquaintance harbors the belief that he knows all there is to know about aerodynamics, and that to challenge that is to challenge his security.
For myself, I draw comfort knowing that there is much more to learn about everything.
An ant fell into the sea.
The sea level rose.
Ants had a role in causing the sea level to rise.
Welcome to Insectoid Global Warming (IGW).
Abate the ant population.
Anthony, you have been standing on some 15,000 sets of Global Warming toes and they are getting very uncomfortable about it. Your interview response was very reasonable and mild. even overly moderate, and yet they cannot listen to it. They are professional Offence-Takers not Listeners over there at PBS.